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So the Samsung Galaxy S3 is being announced in a few weeks time, I am really tempted to return my One X and wait it out. Any others who feel the same?
Update: Looks like there has been a proper leak this time:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/20/galaxy-s-iii-leak/
I can't say I am impressed?????
Update: 3rd May -
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-preview-hands-on/
Features are fabulous, not sure about the design???
All the rumors point to the galaxy s3 having a hardware home button now . If this is the case I will definitely be keeping my One X. If not, I'll have to compare the specs and see which one I prefer to hold.
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Nah. Well IF Samsung totally remade tw and the design of the phone I might consider it IF it shows that the Samsung is a MUCH bettet device. If not? Ill pass.
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It's a tough one.
I had the Galaxy S2, then got the Galaxy Nexus. I sold the Nexus and went back to the S2, I loved this phone. I think the camera on the S2 is better than the one X.
So with this in mind, Samsung can only improve upon the phone. I am in a pickle! Keep or return.
I'll probably end up keeping this and then pick up the S3 when it is released. Rumored specs sound pretty good!
almighty shadowgun THD just told me never!
Probably not. Slightly better specs won't mean anything if Samsung continue to use the cheapest and nastiest materials possible to encase their phones. They use the exact same cheap, flimsy and thin glossy plastic for all of their phones from the dirt-cheap Europa to their flagships.
Definitely not.
I have a gtab 10.1 and a galaxy s WiFi 5.0.
That's enough Samsung for me
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winwiz said:
It's a tough one.
I had the Galaxy S2, then got the Galaxy Nexus. I sold the Nexus and went back to the S2, I loved this phone. I think the camera on the S2 is better than the one X.
So with this in mind, Samsung can only improve upon the phone. I am in a pickle! Keep or return.
I'll probably end up keeping this and then pick up the S3 when it is released. Rumored specs sound pretty good!
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I thought the S2's camera was really bad in low light conditions, in similiar conditions my iphone 4 was able to take acceptable photos. one X's camera does well in low light too.
what really annoyed me was samsung's touchwiz on ICS for the S2. I really like the stock ICS theme and that really ruined it for me, i don't think it even used the new roboto font.
am really happy with the one X, but also quite excited to see what the S3 will bring!
I was about to buy it but with those soooo many problems I decided to wait for the SGIII and see it then decide. At least see if HTC gonna do something about the One X problems
I'll wait and see, having One X in hand makes it easy to wait for announcement and test results
Besides, it's difficult to imagine how would S3 be better. It would have to have 1080p screen or 8 core CPU or massively better GPU. The last one is possible but it won't have as good support as nvidia's Tegra3 has. It won't have dedicated games like THD and it won't have dedicated market like nVidia Tegra Zone.
I don't care how good the specs on sgs3 are, this phone is so amazing. And damn i love the fact that this phone is a mystery still. I love this thing already, but updates will probably be something out of this world. Galaxy S3 will just get stuck to tw5 unlike htc One x will get sense 4.1+
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I came from a i9100. I got the One X vs. waiting for the SGS3 because we don't know when it will be available (an announcement isn't an actual release). If history repeats itself, trying to get one from the initial batches will be downright painful and expensive.
Spec wise, what more could possibly be added to it that's not offered in the One X? I'm sure the displays will be about the same size and the SGS3 will have SAMOLED HD Plus (non-Pentile). But the colors will once again be exaggerated but not necessarily better and it'll be harder to use in bright daylight. It may be thinner than the One X but may not feel better in the hand (SGS2 vs. Sensation). The quad-core Exynos will be faster than Teg3 but in all but benchmarks how much more speed does a phone need when the OS and apps aren't able to take advantage of it? There were some rumors of it supporting S-Pen which if true would be a cool feature.
The biggest issue and difference between them may end up being battery life. Because of AMOLED and the move to 32nm from 45nm (it's still A9 vs. A15 though) it will be a more efficient phone. And it may have a removable battery. My One X doesn't seem to have the issues a lot of others do so battery life right now is my biggest concern.
By selling my SGS2 now I'll get more for it than after the SGS3 becomes available. The One X should still hold its value fairly well even after the SGS3's launched so I'll lose less if I decide to get and SGS3 than if I skipped the One X all together.
So far I'm happy with the One X. And if any of you think that the SGS3's launch will be flawless and bug free dream on. Once again a new device will launch with a new and untested chip on a new OS using a new overlay (TW4). If the GN's an example, the SGS3 home page will look much like ours until a couple of updates are pushed out. Samsung delayed the launch of the G-Tab 2's because of ICS issues and they are much simpler devices. I don’t think the grass will be greener on the other side, just different.
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Probably not. Slightly better specs won't mean anything if Samsung continue to use the cheapest and nastiest materials possible to encase their phones. They use the exact same cheap, flimsy and thin glossy plastic for all of their phones from the dirt-cheap Europa to their flagships.
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my colleagues iphone 4s was completely trashed after 1 drop,
my girlfriends htc hd2 fell apart after 2nd drop,
my gs2: dropped 5 times. still alive and kicking.
except two spots (the impact points) on the corners, no damage done at all!
so i really dont understand the concept of "build quality" of some people
I'm getting my One X sent back and replaced due to flimsy build, if the replacement is as shoddily made I'll be jumping ship altogether.
Build quality of my SGSII wa excellent, just like Galaxy Nexus. Don't mistake build quality with materials quality. Might look plasticky, but was rock solid and reliable.
SGS3 might have Pen and better battery life thanks to shrank down cores, but I don't think I want to go back to AMOLED just yet, even if it's Plus. I need to see side by side comparisons first.
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my colleagues iphone 4s was completely trashed after 1 drop,
my girlfriends htc hd2 fell apart after 2nd drop,
my gs2: dropped 5 times. still alive and kicking.
except two spots (the impact points) on the corners, no damage done at all!
so i really dont understand the concept of "build quality" of some people
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Who said anything about build quality?
Who wants to hold a phone they paid €500-€600 for that feels the exact same as a €39 entry-level phone?
BarryH_GEG said:
I came from a i9100. I got the One X vs. waiting for the SGS3 because we don't know when it will be available (an announcement isn't an actual release). If history repeats itself, trying to get one from the initial batches will be downright painful and expensive.
Spec wise, what more could possibly be added to it that's not offered in the One X? I'm sure the displays will be about the same size and the SGS3 will have SAMOLED HD Plus (non-Pentile). But the colors will once again be exaggerated but not necessarily better and it'll be harder to use in bright daylight. It may be thinner than the One X but may not feel better in the hand (SGS2 vs. Sensation). The quad-core Exynos will be faster than Teg3 but in all but benchmarks how much more speed does a phone need when the OS and apps aren't able to take advantage of it? There were some rumors of it supporting S-Pen which if true would be a cool feature.
The biggest issue and difference between them may end up being battery life. Because of AMOLED and the move to 32nm from 45nm (it's still A9 vs. A15 though) it will be a more efficient phone. And it may have a removable battery. My One X doesn't seem to have the issues a lot of others do so battery life right now is my biggest concern.
By selling my SGS2 now I'll get more for it than after the SGS3 becomes available. The One X should still hold its value fairly well even after the SGS3's launched so I'll lose less if I decide to get and SGS3 than if I skipped the One X all together.
So far I'm happy with the One X. And if any of you think that the SGS3's launch will be flawless and bug free dream on. Once again a new device will launch with a new and untested chip on a new OS using a new overlay (TW4). If the GN's an example, the SGS3 home page will look much like ours until a couple of updates are pushed out. Samsung delayed the launch of the G-Tab 2's because of ICS issues and they are much simpler devices. I don’t think the grass will be greener on the other side, just different.
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I think this post sums up my feelings nicely!
Jobiza said:
I don't care how good the specs on sgs3 are, this phone is so amazing. And damn i love the fact that this phone is a mystery still. I love this thing already, but updates will probably be something out of this world. Galaxy S3 will just get stuck to tw5 unlike htc One x will get sense 4.1+
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You have absolutely no proof of any of this.
abc27 said:
Who said anything about build quality?
Who wants to hold a phone they paid €500-€600 for that feels the exact same as a €39 entry-level phone?
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Some people just don't care. I am all for the One X as I'll be picking one up soon, but saying things like "it won't be updated blah blah" when you really have no idea is just stupid.
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Loved my SGS2 but disliked TW. Sense > TW. If they have a complete revamp on TW5 then might consider. What if the next Galaxy line is WP8? Just imagine the stir caused lol.
Patiently waiting to see what the next range will have to offer guess we'll see a SGS2+ to compete with One S and a bigger brother to compete with One X.
Guessing SGS3 will be quad based on the 4412, 1-2gb of RAM, 4.65" screen Super AMOLED Plus HD, thinner than the One X, battery life that will excel, NFC, coating that is water proof.
Who knows.... love my HOX for the time being!
No, no and NO!!!
I don't believe in madly chasing technology jumping from one device to the next just because of better hardware specs. Actual device capability, and not on-paper specs, should be the reason for an upgrade (IMHO). I don't understand why would I ever want to return my One X (not that I can even if I wanted to ).
Reasons:
I LOVE the display. Cannot emphasize this more. Even if SIII has a full HD display, it would not make me love this display any less.
Form factor: The screen size, thinness, curves, surface finish - in short, everything about the One X body feels perfect to me.
Rational thinking. There's no app out there in the market (nor there will be in the next year or two) that the One X cannot run (based on capability, not compatibility). Even if SIII has a much faster processor, the One X is already so fast that the difference would be marginal, barely noticeable, if at all.
Now, why would I ever give up my One X?
Did anyone here use an S2 before getting the OX? Is it worth the upgrade or should I wait one more year before making a proper leap?
Well,as far as hardware performance goes...the HOX is way better than the S2,the software is better (newer version of android),and every year a "super" phone is released,i mean if you buy now the HOX until the next summer a better one will be launched...this is just a mather of money.Personaly i wouldn't change my phone every year.
Better battery, better hardwarw, better camera, better sound, bettet screen... Do you want more? Haha S2 cant compares with HOX.
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i changed from S2 to OX. and i prefer my S2 more because it is lighter and has less bugs. (maybe because im small) but overall OX is still a nice phone
i answered this in the other thread about this.
Went from S2 to OX - just totally different phones with the OX being a new gen one! Screen size, display, power etc. I think HTC is actually a better phone than Samsung too.
Go for the S3, better than the One X in most areas...
One of my close friends has an s2 and to me it feels like a cheaper version of android.. almost like iOs.. don't get me wrong the iphone is nice and has good software but its very plain and for everyone so has to be likeable for everyone. This can be said the same for the samsung, whilst HTC looks more 'professional' the phone has had some bugs but look at the iphone 4s with death grip it's still the top of its field. Once the bugs are dealt with the one x will be king!
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Go for the S3, better than the One X in most areas...
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The fact your in the HTC ONE X forum spouting this crap, tells everyone just how worried you are about the HOX - & just how disappointed in the sgs3 you are!
Main feature of a phone (a touch screen smartphone) is it's screen - the sgs3 screen is not even a Amoled+ screen, it has a ppi that is lower than the Galaxy Nexus & it remains a PENTILE screen - don't even try to compare this to the HOX screen.
As for the design, you can't honestly think it's design matches the HOX which feels completely premium & with its matte back finish - no fingerprints too boot - just look at that sgs3 back, cheap shiny plastic, with its old clamshell-design.
Ram is the same at 1gb,
Camera is the same at 8mp, but I didn't hear the sgs3 having a f2.0 sensor, correct?
T3 devices get nvidia exclusive games, optimized for the T3 - dark meadow THD makes the iPhone4s version look awful, so until sgs3 gets similar treatment, it's all ifs & buts.
& looking at the press conference, same old touchwiz with very little changes to the SGS2 version - might have been good on gingerbread, but it's darn awful on ICS - users can expect to not feel like they are using ICS.
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My sister in law wants to buy HTC one X.But she don't know to buy it or iphone 4s is better.Who guide her to pick up one of them?thnks
Go for HTC One X !! It's obviously better !
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Go for HTC One X !! It's obviously better !
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Thanks for your answer.But can you tell me how it's better
That's a easy question ...
HTC ONE X! Its much better than IPhone 4S ...
- Camera
- Quad-Core
- Bigger Display
- Fast and Smooth!
- best reason ... every time can you change your rom
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oberbapti said:
I think she should get the HTC One X because it's display is bigger, you can customize almost everything and
most apps in the PlayStore are free. I love my HOX, but there is one annoying bug: too big email-font-size. It's drivin me nuts.
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I will buy her One X.
But for me i don't know iphone 5 is better than One X or (New HTC one X 5)...I really don't know which one is better .for me.I know every thing about apple IOS .But for android i'm a new for android and htc .
Dylan Bay said:
I will buy her One X.
But for me i don't know iphone 5 is better than One X or (New HTC one X 5)...I really don't know which one is better .for me.I know every thing about apple IOS .But for android i'm a new for android and htc .
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Hey man,
As you're in the HOX thread you probably won't get very objective responses but maybe I can give you some pros and cons to weigh.
iPhone 4S:
- if coming from a previous iPhone, it will be easy to transfer contacts and no need to learn anything new
- price is lower now (? correct me if I'm wrong)
- easier-to-learn/use (depends how tech savvy your sister-in-law is)
- jailbreaking is easier and less complicated than rooting (some may disagree)
HTC One X:
- performance powerhouse (quad core!)
- AMAZINGLY beautiful 4.7" Super IPS LCD2 screen (honestly this bad boy's screen is the best I've seen, even compared to the iPhone 5)
- very customizable
I honestly think the HTC One X is the better phone, but if your sister-in-law is not a very avid gadget fan and wants everything to just work, she would probably appreciate the iPhone 4s more.
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Hey man,
As you're in the HOX thread you probably won't get very objective responses but maybe I can give you some pros and cons to weigh.
iPhone 4S:
- if coming from a previous iPhone, it will be easy to transfer contacts and no need to learn anything new
- price is lower now (? correct me if I'm wrong)
- easier-to-learn/use (depends how tech savvy your sister-in-law is)
- jailbreaking is easier and less complicated than rooting (some may disagree)
HTC One X:
- performance powerhouse (quad core!)
- AMAZINGLY beautiful 4.7" Super IPS LCD2 screen (honestly this bad boy's screen is the best I've seen, even compared to the iPhone 5)
- very customizable
I honestly think the HTC One X is the better phone, but if your sister-in-law is not a very avid gadget fan and wants everything to just work, she would probably appreciate the iPhone 4s more.
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thanks man.
can you tell me when it will be realized ?HTC one X 5?
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iPhone 4S:
- price is lower now (? correct me if I'm wrong)
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hmm, i looked at amazon and the price for an iphone 4s 16Gb is 600€ and the hox cost only 470€ ... O.O
@Dylan:
Sorry bro I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "when it will be realized" or "HTC One X 5". Is that what the next HTC One X is called?! Haha.
I know that Verizon is going to be releasing a refreshed HTC One X+ in 1 or 2 months (according to rumors).
@Donn!e:
Wow, man that's cheap!
Dylan, if price is a big issue for you and Donnie's post is accurate, then by all means go for HTC One X :good:
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@Dylan:
Sorry bro I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "when it will be realized" or "HTC One X 5". Is that what the next HTC One X is called?! Haha.
I know that Verizon is going to be releasing a refreshed HTC One X+ in 1 or 2 months (according to rumors).
@Donn!e:
Wow, man that's cheap!
Dylan, if price is a big issue for you and Donnie's post is accurate, then by all means go for HTC One X :good:
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IN here phones are very cheaper .we can buy one x by 450 USD.and iphone 500 USD new .
Dylan Bay said:
IN here phones are very cheaper .we can buy one x by 450 USD.and iphone 500 USD new .
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Damn bro, 450 USD are in germany 350€ ... -.-' its very CHEAP!!!!
Donn!e DarKo said:
Damn bro, 450 USD are in germany 350€ ... -.-' its very CHEAP!!!!
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I swear bro and if you want the agent in Dubai i can send you his facebook he will ship it for you
just my '2 penneth'
the hox is better than the iphone 5. let alone the iphone 4s. iphones are the ****tiest, most boring, overrated pieces of **** ever to roam this world.
you can only do what apple decides you do for starters, let alone the fact the hox has way better specs. it has a BEAUTIFUL screen. it has a quad core. it has nfc. and best of all, it runs android.
anyone these days who chooses an iphone over a android handset is missing out big time. All the iphone sheep like to bring up the fact that theres loads of apps, but all i noticed was that theres just 4 or 5 apps with the same functionality, and they're all paid apps (whereas android would offer a free one and /or paid version) and half the time they don't 'just work' like the iphone is supposed to.
i can't wait for apple to get pushed aside again just like back when microsoft did it with the desktop pc market.
Dylan Bay said:
My sister in law wants to buy HTC one X.But she don't know to buy it or iphone 4s is better.Who guide her to pick up one of them?thnks
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HOX is 10x better because:
If they could lock you down as much as they want you too, you'd be doing iPoo's in an iToilet right now.
Because iOS6 is rubbish.
Because Apple are greedy and want more and more money from you.
The list could go on?
HOX is quad core
HOX has beautiful screen
HOX has tegra3 CHIP!
Wilks3y said:
HOX is 10x better because:
If they could lock you down as much as they want you too, you'd be doing iPoo's in an iToilet right now.
Because iOS6 is rubbish.
Because Apple are greedy and want more and more money from you.
The list could go on?
HOX is quad core
HOX has beautiful screen
HOX has tegra3 CHIP!
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And all arguments in the short version ...
Hox is better because it is better! :laugh:
Donn!e DarKo said:
And all arguments in the short version ...
Hox is better because it is better! :laugh:
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Seriously, this should be SGS2 vs iphone4s
And it would still be the SGS2, it's just more powerful - simple.
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Seriously, this should be SGS2 vs iphone4s
And it would still be the SGS2, it's just more powerful - simple.
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my hero was the only phone that wasn't quite as good as an iphone (in terms of pure speed and app availabilty). even then i still preferred it! and now thats changed a lot because i bet the roms are better, AND theres more apps.
i hate crapple
one x. hands down.
I would get her an iPhone if she is not the kind to install custom ROMs and what not. The iPhone 4s has a stable but stale OS right out of the box. She has to do a million things to her One X before it is stable and a daily driver. I don't know any women installing custom ROMs on Android phones. All my women friends that have android phones complain about battery the whole time and when I tell them to root it and install custom ROMS, they are scared of losing their warranty. So I would say the iPhone 4s.
so seriously how long was the one x htc flagships phone for, they seem to be bringing out bigger and better all the time!
one x+
this new htc j
im not overly impressed i thought me one x was gunna be flagship for a while yet, why not make what u have better rather than replacing,,
cnuts
It's still the flagship
the J is not out anywhere but Japan and the One X+ is just a tiny refresh of the same damn thing with the same damn software
but no lets all hug and cry
"One X+ is just a tiny refresh of the same damn thing with the same damn software"
this is my problem get it right first time!! and u dnt need to "refresh" f all
hold me
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"One X+ is just a tiny refresh of the same damn thing with the same damn software"
this is my problem get it right first time!! and u dnt need to "refresh" f all
hold me
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think of it this way if ur willing to pay more and get a 64GB version you will get few extras with it
its a smartphone company, its all they do, unlike apple, samsung, sony, google and the rest of the damn world
believe me when i tell you Tegra 3 is already at the maximum of its architectural limit, 1500 or 1700mhz will not make a different, as for the GPU if you are are rooted we have unlocked it long ago
yesterday we OC test GPU OC beyond 520mhz and got no benefits, the chip is already bottle-necked by it's bandwith
HTC is following two line, Tegra and Snapdragon
it terms of Tegra the next flagship will be the Tegra 4
Still feels like a flagship phone to me, i still have a great sense of satisfaction when i hold/use the phone and the smoothness of JB and the quality of the screen even after owning it for 6 months! Also how everything has come along with the UI since original release. This is still the flagship!!!!
hamdir said:
It's still the flagship
the J is not out anywhere but Japan and the One X+ is just a tiny refresh of the same damn thing with the same damn software
but no lets all hug and cry
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I have to disagree hamdir...
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support and GLONASS . There is a new chip in town.
Its a huge refresh for me, (emphasis on me) who is using the phone as his primary navigation device. (daily about 1 hour) Sometimes more on long runs/drives.
GLONASS on it could do me wonders.
GPS is good but could be better I already owned a hybrid GPS and GLONASS device and it was better.
Having the money I would do the switch . Again emphasis on the I.
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I have to disagree hamdir...
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support and GLONASS . There is a new chip in town.
Its a huge refresh for me, (emphasis on me) who is using the phone as his primary navigation device. (daily about 1 hour) Sometimes more on long runs/drives.
GLONASS on it could do me wonders.
GPS is good but could be better I already owned a hybrid GPS and GLONASS device and it was better.
Having the money I would do the switch . Again emphasis on the I.
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and did you not know it missed GLONASS and AGPS when you bought it?
hence it's a tiny refresh, the basic design, software and main features did not change, only improved slightly, not is denying its improved but it certainly does not replace
for many people its not even worth the extra cost (if they are buying the One X right now)
@ Hamdir;The J Butterfly might get a Verizon release in the US.
I still consider the HOX a flagship handset (For android anyway, not thinking about the new Windows handsets here), the One X+ has such minute 'upgrades' that it's laughable, it's only been tweaked a little bit and as Hmadir said the J Butterfly is atm a Japan only release until Verizon possibly get it for the US.
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@ Hamdir;The J Butterfly might get a Verizon release in the US.
I still consider the HOX a flagship handset (For android anyway, not thinking about the new Windows handsets here), the One X+ has such minute 'upgrades' that it's laughable, it's only been tweaked a little bit and as Hmadir said the J Butterfly is atm a Japan only release until Verizon possibly get it for the US.
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we will know if it comes on the 29th as a Google Nexus and even if it did, it doesn't replace HTC's flagship
There is internal discussion at HTC about the so many phone release its true, seems like they are split in two camps, but all i'm saying the current One X was not suddenly rendered "outdated" it still has the qualities of the flagship and still getting both firmware and app support as we go, its not HTC's fault if you can't resist the urge of having the "latest and greatest"
If they suddenly released the One 2X, with SLCD3 Tegra4 and 13MB camera after 6 months of outing the One X, than yes i would be seriously pissed
HTC's flagship should have the best of all technology and new features, a new HTC sense, new Android, new design, a global release, a new SOC, a new screen to be considered a flaghsip, im pretty sure the J falls into this category (except Sense) but so far it doesn't seem HTC is willing to go global with it, if they do they will have to throw their entire stock of the just announced One X+
5 months I would say for the UK- what a joke.
Then HTC wonder why people think (and they think) they have no strategy except to react to the shinier phones.
To be honest it seems in Android land, 6 months is about the max any device remains 'flagship'.... Given mobile phone contracts are ever increasing in length (duration) to subsidise handsets, it's a bit of a gip when your new killer phone is usurped after such a short time.
Does it make your purchase any less affective, not really... But it is certainly a total buzz kill.
iOS users get 12 months.
Windows mobile users (excluding those who purchased the Nokia Lumia 900 in the US as Nokia came late to the windows phone 7 party) generally get 18 months.
BB users get at least 12 months (often 18) too.
So yeah, 6 months as King of the Hill isn't great (especially from the same manufacturer), and actually it's less than that if you factor in other manufacturers of Android devices who out pace each other incrementally.
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we will know if it comes on the 29th as a Google Nexus and even if it did, it doesn't replace HTC's flagship
This is true, if it was part of the Nexus range it won't impact upon HTC's flagship line
There is internal discussion at HTC about the so many phone release its true, seems like they are split in two camps, but all i'm saying the current One X was not suddenly rendered "outdated" it still has the qualities of the flagship and still getting both firmware and app support as we go, its not HTC's fault if you can't resist the urge of having the "latest and greatest"
I remember seeing a Press Release from HTC saying that in 2011 they diluted the market with too many handsets and that in 2012 they were only going to release a few, their 'latest & greatest'... so much for that plan!
If they suddenly released the One 2X, with SLCD3 Tegra4 and 13MB camera after 6 months of outing the One X, than yes i would be seriously pissed
Too right! Wouldn't we all be!
HTC's flagship should have the best of all technology and new features, a new HTC sense, new Android, new design, a global release, a new SOC, a new screen to be considered a flaghsip, im pretty the J falls into this category (except Sense) but so far it doesn't seem HTC is willing to go global with it, if they do they will have to throw their entire stock of the just announced One X+
That'd be a waste of good money and R&D time!
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hamdir said:
and did you not know it missed GLONASS and AGPS when you bought it?
hence it's a tiny refresh, the basic design, software and main features did not change, only improved slightly, not is denying its improved but it certainly does not replace
for many people its not even worth the extra cost (if they are buying the One X right now)
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ofc I did know that.. You didn't??? Its not my first phone, and not my first android, or htc phone... I am a consumer that reads before he buys..Not by "Oh look its so cute, lets buy it".. Do not insult my intelligence.
I just wrote you I am using the navigation a lot, like 40 percent of the phone usage goes for that...
and I said for "me"
Btw I didn't say its a replacement or will kick out the One X from the throne. I just say, its not an tiny refresh . At least not for every consumer. You have to give me that.
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If they suddenly released the One 2X, with SLCD3 Tegra4 and 13MB camera after 6 months of outing the One X, than yes i would be seriously pissed
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Crazy talk. You should be happy that there is progress! And just wait patiently with open arms what the future brings us!
What you wrote under this comment makes more sense.
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HTC's flagship should have the best of all technology and new features, a new HTC sense, new Android, new design, a global release, a new SOC, a new screen to be considered a flaghsip, im pretty the J falls into this category (except Sense)
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Yes if they released an outdated device and called it a flagship you could be pissed.
This is what SONY was doing and maybe still is . Remember the first Xperia (I do ) overpriced piece of garbage, when phones had standard multitouch (hero, desire, nexus one and etc) this device more expensive then all, was and still is missing it.(software emulation my ass)
But then again, when you bought it, you could know it. (And there was other parts in SW that sucks bla bla to the OT)
fair enough about the tiny part, but we are discussing what is an HTC flagship to begin with
the One X, X+ and J are all flagships, ie: the upper end of the spec list of HTC's products, not to mention the most widely praised and respected by the media and gets their most attention
judging from my time in elevate, it does seem the situation is confusing, HTC itself do not have clear boundaries and everyone is asking them to define them
more over it seems their choice of SOC is also not a deep rooted decision, if i had to throw a wild guess, HTC only chose Tegra 3 because Qualcomm did not have a quad core ready and they had to counter the upcoming Quad SGS3
In fact the One X Tegra 3 seems much more important to Nvidia (they use its picture in every Tegra 3 occasion), than Tegra 3 is important to HTC (which for them its just another quad SOC)
They also wanted to open up to other SOC vendors just like Samsung does by releasing the same device on three different SOCs, which at the time seemed to give great commercial margins to Samsung
Everything the One X was, seemed a bid to counter Samsung, when in fact it had nothing to do with the values of samsung, in reality its more of an iPhone counter in terms of priorites (fancy build quality, refined UI and amazing screen)
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fair enough about the tiny part, but we are discussing what is an HTC flagship to begin with
the One X, X+ and J are all flagships, ie: the upper end of the spec list of HTC's products, not to mention the most widely praised and respected by the media and gets their most attention
judging from my time in elevate, it does seem the situation is confusing, HTC itself do not have clear boundaries and everyone is asking them to define them
more over it seems their choice of SOC is also not a deep rooted decision, if i had to throw a wild guess, HTC only chose Tegra 3 because Qualcomm did not have a quad core ready and they had to counter the upcoming Quad SGS3
In fact the One X Tegra 3 seems much more important to Nvidia (they use its picture in every Tegra 3 occasion), than Tegra 3 is important to HTC (which for them its just another quad SOC)
They also wanted to open up to other SOC vendors just like Samsung does by releasing the same device on three different SOCs, which at the time seemed to give great commercial margins to Samsung
Everything the One X was, seemed a bid to counter Samsung, when in fact it had nothing to do with the values of samsung, in reality its more of an iPhone counter in terms of priorites (fancy build quality, refined UI and amazing screen)
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It's understandable that HTC wanted to strike while the iron was hot, the HTC Sensation was a brilliant phone but was trounced by the Galaxy S2 in sales figures and reviews.
They didn't want the same thing to happen again with their new One range so they rushed it a little bit and put it out there imho. But nether the less, the Samsung Galaxy fanboys made sure that the S3 beat the HOX is sales figures and reviews when I don't believe it deserves to.
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It's understandable that HTC wanted to strike while the iron was hot, the HTC Sensation was a brilliant phone but was trounced by the Galaxy S2 in sales figures and reviews.
They didn't want the same thing to happen again with their new One range so they rushed it a little bit and put it out there imho. But nether the less, the Samsung Galaxy fanboys made sure that the S3 beat the HOX is sales figures and reviews when I don't believe it deserves to.
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I would forbid AMOLED ... seriously nothing that has the current generations of AMOLED or its monstrosity called Pentile Matrix cant be called a flagship, in no company... I mean to buy on such higher rate degrading display or the non existing quality. Am still laughing at ppl telling me that they also have 320PPI....
if htc sticks to IPS, or SLCD or the second gens etc, no way I would switch again back to Samsung ...
Btw I would go for the Evo 3D in the time of SGS2 ... That phone was cheap , fast, great display, heavy and big ... more like a weapon, but higher res and 1GB more as the Sensation.
As its now I think I am set for 1 or maybe even 2 years without requiring a new device. Which I couldnt say with the previous generations phones I had. Even though they were Flagships as well. Lets say SGS.
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It's understandable that HTC wanted to strike while the iron was hot, the HTC Sensation was a brilliant phone but was trounced by the Galaxy S2 in sales figures and reviews.
They didn't want the same thing to happen again with their new One range so they rushed it a little bit and put it out there imho. But nether the less, the Samsung Galaxy fanboys made sure that the S3 beat the HOX is sales figures and reviews when I don't believe it deserves to.
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yes its good u brought up the Sensation, the S2 was better than it to be honest except the build material, keeping in mind the SGS2 had true 1:1 pixel density, something i can't say about the SGS3 its in no way no how better than the One X
but the Sensation was supposed to be the flagship right?
For me one trip to the store was enough to tell me its not worth upgrading my Desire HD, the screen was actually worse it had a very bad refresh rate and ghosting, the initial sense 3.0 stayed insanely and horribly sluggish for over 8 months, build and design very similar and the camera almost the same, it was only the SOC which was much better but badly supported in the initial firmware
The Sensation did not shine until the ICS update was pushed, in fact the performance nearly doubled with the ICS update and then you could see what the Senation was all about
And like Pagot said, they polarized their fans with the dual Evo3d/Sensation release, but for me the Evo3d is the better deal, the best ever build device by HTC i'm still preplexed until today at how much it have costed them to build the thing, it was "shimmering" with fancy higher grade perfectly cut material in every corner, and the screen in 2D mode was massively better than the Sensation with 60hz refresh rate, when the Evo3d was being cleared out of stock pre the One X release, it literally sold like hot cakes in Lebanon, the main vendors couldn't keep up with the demand
and just as the Sensation example, Sensation XE did not replace it as a flagship, both were the flagship just the XE was the newer repackage
HTC will stick to IPS they have never been fans of Samsung or Amoled, especially after all the praise they got for the One X display, remember how they dropped Amoled by re-releasing the Desire with SLCD (i actually switch my phone to the SLCD version)
Not this crap again! Yes, stand still HTC. Don't refresh your devices and let the competition surpass you with superior specced products!
And then no doubt the masses will complain that HTC aren't innovating and their product lineup is stale! FFS!
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yes its good u brought up the Sensation, the S2 was better than it to be honest except the build material, keeping in mind the SGS2 had true 1:1 pixel density, something i can't say about the SGS3 its in no way no how better than the One X
Yeah that bugs me, people saying that the SGS3 has 'The best screen on the market' bar iPhone, it's definitely the One X!
but the Sensation was supposed to be the flagship right?
For me one trip to the store was enough to tell me its not worth upgrading my Desire HD, the screen was actually worse it had a very bad refresh rate and ghosting, the initial sense 3.0 stayed insanely and horribly sluggish for over 8 months, build and design very similar and the camera almost the same, it was only the SOC which was much better but badly supported in the initial firmware
The Sensation did not shine until the ICS update was pushed, in fact the performance nearly doubled with the ICS update and then you could see what the Senation was all about
And like Pagot said, they polarized their fans with the dual Evo3d/Sensation release, but for me the Evo3d is the better deal, the best ever build device by HTC i'm still preplexed until today at how much it have costed them to build the thing, it was "shimmering" with fancy higher grade perfectly cut material in every corner, and the screen in 2D mode was massively better than the Sensation with 60hz refresh rate, when the Evo3d was being cleared out of stock pre the One X release, it literally sold like hot cakes in Lebanon, the main vendors couldn't keep up with the demand
and just as the Sensation example, Sensation XE did not replace it as a flagship, both were the flagship just the XE was the newer repackage
Same goes for the Sensation XL, that was step down if ever there was one! Infact, all HTC adverts for a while and advertising in general toted the XL, so I'd say for a very brief few months the XL was their 'flagship' handset.
HTC will stick to IPS they have never been fans of Samsung or Amoled, remember how they dropped amoled by releasing the Desire with SLCD?
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I liked the Desire screen, it was bright and fresh, something to show to the iMoans squadron. I loved me Desire!
I guess it's what you upgraded to the Sensation from... if it was a Desire HD then it was a bit of a jump back until ICS FOTA, but as I came to Sensation from my old Desire, that was a big step up. Takes all kinds I guess...
Yes the ICS update really took the Sensation into a world of it's own! Never really got to play around with the Evo3D, I think the Sensation was released slightly ahead of it here in the UK, so I'd already nabbed my Sensation before the Evo3D was released. The screen had to have a 60hz refresh rate I'm assuming as it'd be halved when the 3D effect was on? So anything less than 30/25hz refresh rate would've made the thing look really choppy!
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I liked the Desire screen, it was bright and fresh, something to show to the iMoans squadron. I loved me Desire!
I guess it's what you upgraded to the Sensation from... if it was a Desire HD then it was a bit of a jump back until ICS FOTA, but as I came to Sensation from my old Desire, that was a big step up. Takes all kinds I guess...
Yes the ICS update really took the Sensation into a world of it's own! Never really got to play around with the Evo3D, I think the Sensation was released slightly ahead of it here in the UK, so I'd already nabbed my Sensation before the Evo3D was released. The screen had to have a 60hz refresh rate I'm assuming as it'd be halved when the 3D effect was on? So anything less than 30/25hz refresh rate would've made the thing look really choppy!
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yes ofcourse the Evo had to have 60hz for 3D but there was no excuse for less on the Sensation both the Desire HD and Desire had better screens in terms of refresh, in fact the Desire SLCD had the best screen in terms of all, view angles and black levels included
I only bought the Sensation much later for my wife for a very good price but she still wanted it replaced with the Sensation XL (and now she complains why temple run lags )
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I am planning to buy HTC One X international version for about 468$ from a local store where I can test it and so on. I now wonder if I should wait for a newer phone release within the same price range or wait for HTC One X price to drop more or maybe even wait until the HTC One X+ price drop and get it instead .
So
Get The One X now for 468$
Or
Wait until it becomes cheaper like 400$ or so few weeks later
Or
Wait for the One X+ price drops to 468$ and that way I get the better version for the same price of the old one
Or
Wait for 2013 phones to be released and get one of them instead or get the One X really cheap .
What do you guys think ? It is worth waiting and for how long ?
It's a good phone, but the One X+ is obviously better. (It's not much of difference, imo). But the price is a bit too high. You can score the X for a better price through sellers here or on eBay...
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I would get nexus 4 or sgs3 if I was you.
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Where did the OP state your recommendations as an option? Or am I having trouble reading?
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I just got a One X myself and it is a pretty decent phone but if i had the chance to go back buy a different phone i certainly would.
Firstly the battery life isn't very good i have had a lot of problems with battery.
Secondly i have had a lot of reboots and freezes with the stock ROM this might be something to do with me being with Three who are useless and haven't provided important updates etc to us.
If you can get the s3 or Nexus 4 get one of them, if you are into iOS get the iPhone you know the phone is going to be stable, get updates on time etc.
Like i said the One X is a decent phone but it does have its problems
Good Luck with you're new phone
I think the One X is a VERY good phone. Obviously there is a smudge of bias on my opinion as I own one but from having used an S3 for a 1 month period before deciding that I didn't want it, I can tell you why ***In my opinion*** the One X beats it
Firstly, the screen is devastatingly beautiful, the colors are amazing, it's got sublime viewing angles near 180 degrees if i'm honest and it's just brilliant for watching HD content on, plus the screen is big enough that you can actually appreciate media content on the screen. Being picky when it comes to screens, it pains me everytime I use the S3 and I can see the pentile pixel grid and all the whites have a green tint to them.
Tegra 3, now I know it's a bit of a gimmick, but it gives a noticable difference in graphical quality than any comparible phone without tegra such as the Nexus 4 or the S3, also works beautifully with the screen
Design, much like the One X's screen, it's body is really well styled, the materials feel very premium and the handset just feels good, the design just has that wow factor which I felt when I first saw the HTC Legend. The S3 in this category cannot hold a candle to the one x, when I feel that glossy polycarbonate, my mind scream CHEAAAAPP!! I know it's not and I know it's the same material that the One X uses but it just doesn't feel like a £400 phone should. Also opening up the battery cover on the white version, you just see disgusting cheap white plastic everywhere which for a picky person like me isn't that great.
Camera, now this is a very subjective area and I much prefer the pictues the One X produces, the S3's pics feel very very saturated in terms of colors where I feel the One X is more representative of the true color, again, this is entirely subjective and that's how I felt.
Sense UI is amazing, yes it's heavy and yes it's buggy sometimes but it's so much more polished than Touchwiz feels and I just like the interface more, there's more "customisability" and it's a nice nice interface to use. I prefer the vanilla android UI just because it's really good nowadays but at the time of purchasing, there were no other phones that bragged the same specs which came with stock Android, and even now if I could change the One X for the Nexus 4, I don't think I would for the reasons above.
Final reason I got a One X is because I really like the fact no one knows what it is and that not many people own one. It's like an exclusive club which people who appreciate Sense can join!
We seem to have veered off topic.
Waiting is a mugs game, it'll always get cheaper, there will always be something better coming along.
What BenPope said. Basically the choices boil down to pretty much buying One X+ if you can afford it, otherwise One X, or you could wait for about a year (or longer) for Tegra 4 devices to come at around mentioned price range.
I bought One X about two weeks ago and all I can say is that I don't regret that decision for a moment.
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It's a good phone, but the One X+ is obviously better. (It's not much of difference, imo). But the price is a bit too high. You can score the X for a better price through sellers here or on eBay...
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TToivanen said:
I would get nexus 4 or sgs3 if I was you.
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maxilick said:
Where did the OP state your recommendations as an option? Or am I having trouble reading?
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FXhnd77 said:
I just got a One X myself and it is a pretty decent phone but if i had the chance to go back buy a different phone i certainly would.
Firstly the battery life isn't very good i have had a lot of problems with battery.
Secondly i have had a lot of reboots and freezes with the stock ROM this might be something to do with me being with Three who are useless and haven't provided important updates etc to us.
If you can get the s3 or Nexus 4 get one of them, if you are into iOS get the iPhone you know the phone is going to be stable, get updates on time etc.
Like i said the One X is a decent phone but it does have its problems
Good Luck with you're new phone
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Yadash said:
I think the One X is a VERY good phone. Obviously there is a smudge of bias on my opinion as I own one but from having used an S3 for a 1 month period before deciding that I didn't want it, I can tell you why ***In my opinion*** the One X beats it
Firstly, the screen is devastatingly beautiful, the colors are amazing, it's got sublime viewing angles near 180 degrees if i'm honest and it's just brilliant for watching HD content on, plus the screen is big enough that you can actually appreciate media content on the screen. Being picky when it comes to screens, it pains me everytime I use the S3 and I can see the pentile pixel grid and all the whites have a green tint to them.
Tegra 3, now I know it's a bit of a gimmick, but it gives a noticable difference in graphical quality than any comparible phone without tegra such as the Nexus 4 or the S3, also works beautifully with the screen
Design, much like the One X's screen, it's body is really well styled, the materials feel very premium and the handset just feels good, the design just has that wow factor which I felt when I first saw the HTC Legend. The S3 in this category cannot hold a candle to the one x, when I feel that glossy polycarbonate, my mind scream CHEAAAAPP!! I know it's not and I know it's the same material that the One X uses but it just doesn't feel like a £400 phone should. Also opening up the battery cover on the white version, you just see disgusting cheap white plastic everywhere which for a picky person like me isn't that great.
Camera, now this is a very subjective area and I much prefer the pictues the One X produces, the S3's pics feel very very saturated in terms of colors where I feel the One X is more representative of the true color, again, this is entirely subjective and that's how I felt.
Sense UI is amazing, yes it's heavy and yes it's buggy sometimes but it's so much more polished than Touchwiz feels and I just like the interface more, there's more "customisability" and it's a nice nice interface to use. I prefer the vanilla android UI just because it's really good nowadays but at the time of purchasing, there were no other phones that bragged the same specs which came with stock Android, and even now if I could change the One X for the Nexus 4, I don't think I would for the reasons above.
Final reason I got a One X is because I really like the fact no one knows what it is and that not many people own one. It's like an exclusive club which people who appreciate Sense can join!
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BenPope said:
We seem to have veered off topic.
Waiting is a mugs game, it'll always get cheaper, there will always be something better coming along.
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BlueSingA said:
What BenPope said. Basically the choices boil down to pretty much buying One X+ if you can afford it, otherwise One X, or you could wait for about a year (or longer) for Tegra 4 devices to come at around mentioned price range.
I bought One X about two weeks ago and all I can say is that I don't regret that decision for a moment.
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Thank you all guys . I've decided to wait until Nexus 4 32GB is released so I will get one or I'll get
the 16GB version instead .. when it is available in stock... Anyway , Nexus 4 seems my final choice ... Thanks again for your suggestions :good: