hi guys,
as the nature of my question will tell u i'm not very technical. so in most basic terms: if i rip a movie at 720p, which is almost always around 5gb, can u copy and play it in one x? why bother doing so? coz we finally may have a screen good enough that's worth the effort
thanx in advance.
Umyd said:
hi guys,
as the nature of my question will tell u i'm not very technical. so in most basic terms: if i rip a movie at 720p, which is almost always around 5gb, can u copy and play it in one x? why bother doing so? coz we finally may have a screen good enough that's worth the effort
thanx in advance.
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you can't copy anything over 4gb because the storage is formatted to the FAT32 standard. Use an application to split the file in half and you'll be able to transfer it across.
Upload it to dropbox and stream it iff u want to save space iff u want to no how to do that let me no
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in order to do that i'll need wifi.
i'm trying to be less bored in my 2hrs+ train journeys.
thats such a pitty. that was the only reason why i'd buy such a phone.
i'll stick with my gs2 for some more years i guess
thanx guys
Umyd said:
in order to do that i'll need wifi.
i'm trying to be less bored in my 2hrs+ train journeys.
thats such a pitty. that was the only reason why i'd buy such a phone.
i'll stick with my gs2 for some more years i guess
thanx guys
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I don't see a difference as the SD card and internal memory of the SGS2 is also formatted in FAT32.
Will it not be possible to have it formatted with EXT4? There is so many custom ROMs coming out now.
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If not that, there probably is an easy way/tool to split MKV into 2 files. I could live with that (but it would be more difficult to use subtitles, for those who need them)
You can use mkvtoolnix to split files.
This is one of the many problems with lacking an external card slot, since in ICS it should be able to take NTFS formatted cards which would alleviate the large file problem and the lack of storage problem (OK, that's mainly only a problem for a minority, I realise that, but that isn't much consolation when you're in that small minority).
Or you could just get the galaxy s3 http://www.beginnerstech.co.uk/samsung-unveil-galaxy-phone-3rd-london/
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You can use mkvtoolnix to split files.
This is one of the many problems with lacking an external card slot, since in ICS it should be able to take NTFS formatted cards which would alleviate the large file problem and the lack of storage problem (OK, that's mainly only a problem for a minority, I realise that, but that isn't much consolation when you're in that small minority).
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I'm thinking more towards apps clashing with NTFS. I know there is basically no difference, I can just copy paste a folder from a FAT32 partition and it will work flawlessly on NTFS, but the app developers might not have optimized whatever it is they need to to fully utilize NTFS, or even supported.
If i were you i would look at your ripping settings, and tweak the quality down so as to sneak in under the 4GB barrier.
I do alot of ripping using handbrake, and my 720p rips are usually around the 2.5GB - 3GB mark, with no discernalbe loss in quality, (dpepending on film length).
I agree that the 4GB limit is an issue, especially when i want to play a 1080p rip i have on my PC, but cant be bothered to re-size for the one X screen.
Lets hope the devs can sort out some ext4 goodness!
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I don't see a difference as the SD card and internal memory of the SGS2 is also formatted in FAT32.
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the difference is pixel density. when i'm ripping a vid for gs2, it's 480x800, which makes a full length movie (without compromising the quality) around 1.5gb.
and it allows me to carry multiple shows/movies.
NZtechfreak said:
You can use mkvtoolnix to split files.
This is one of the many problems with lacking an external card slot, since in ICS it should be able to take NTFS formatted cards which would alleviate the large file problem and the lack of storage problem (OK, that's mainly only a problem for a minority, I realise that, but that isn't much consolation when you're in that small minority).
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thanx bud
looks like a good idea
Hereisphilly said:
If i were you i would look at your ripping settings, and tweak the quality down so as to sneak in under the 4GB barrier.
I do alot of ripping using handbrake, and my 720p rips are usually around the 2.5GB - 3GB mark, with no discernalbe loss in quality, (dpepending on film length).
I agree that the 4GB limit is an issue, especially when i want to play a 1080p rip i have on my PC, but cant be bothered to re-size for the one X screen.
Lets hope the devs can sort out some ext4 goodness!
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i wouldn't give up anything on quality if possible. otherwise i'll just wait for gs3 as snowwhite suggested.
u seem more experienced than me. if the loss of quality is not noticeable (especially when panning), I'd appreciate if u could share your handbrake settings with me
Umyd said:
i wouldn't give up anything on quality if possible. otherwise i'll just wait for gs3 as snowwhite suggested.
u seem more experienced than me. if the loss of quality is not noticeable (especially when panning), I'd appreciate if u could share your handbrake settings with me
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Hehe, yeah no problem
I rip the entire bluray with no compression with makeMKV first, into one huge MKV file.
Then in handbrake,
Under picture settings to downscale to 720p select Loose in the anamorphic setting, set the Modulus to 2 and manually set the width to 1280. (also maintain aspect ratio) Cropping should be set to Automatic in order to remove the black bars
High profile preset
MP4 container (which will actually give you a .m4v file extension ending, but its not problem)
x264 codec
Same as source framerate
then select varialbe
Contstant quality setting, with an RF value of anywhere between 19 - 21. for faster films with more action i generally have a lower value as it looks better.
Lower value = higher quality
for blu-rays i go for 20.5
as the scale is logarithmic, lowering the value slightly can massively boost the filesize, while not adding much quality, so its best to play around. but i can assure you, rips @ 3GB are within 90-95% the quality of a 720p film with no compression
for audio i just keep the 7.1 audio stream and i ususally downmix to AAC for greater compatability
Best play around and see what you get
hope this helps!
Umyd said:
the difference is pixel density. when i'm ripping a vid for gs2, it's 480x800, which makes a full length movie (without compromising the quality) around 1.5gb.
and it allows me to carry multiple shows/movies.
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You can do the same with the HOX, just don't watch it in full screen >.<
Hereisphilly said:
Hehe, yeah no problem
I rip the entire bluray with no compression with makeMKV first, into one huge MKV file.
Then in handbrake,
Under picture settings to downscale to 720p select Loose in the anamorphic setting, set the Modulus to 2 and manually set the width to 1280. (also maintain aspect ratio) Cropping should be set to Automatic in order to remove the black bars
High profile preset
MP4 container (which will actually give you a .m4v file extension ending, but its not problem)
x264 codec
Same as source framerate
then select varialbe
Contstant quality setting, with an RF value of anywhere between 19 - 21. for faster films with more action i generally have a lower value as it looks better.
Lower value = higher quality
for blu-rays i go for 20.5
as the scale is logarithmic, lowering the value slightly can massively boost the filesize, while not adding much quality, so its best to play around. but i can assure you, rips @ 3GB are within 90-95% the quality of a 720p film with no compression
for audio i just keep the 7.1 audio stream and i ususally downmix to AAC for greater compatability
Best play around and see what you get
hope this helps!
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now, this will solve my prob.
thanx buddy!
and where did your thanx button go? huh, i can click it only once.
anyways, cheers mate, good info.
ArmedandDangerous said:
You can do the same with the HOX, just don't watch it in full screen >.<
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nah, not gonna buy a bugatti and drive it as slow as Ford model T
Umyd said:
now, this will solve my prob.
thanx buddy!
and where did your thanx button go? huh, i can click it only once.
anyways, cheers mate, good info.
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No problem, just have a play around and see what is best for you
Not sure, i cant click my own thanks button so cant really help!
Am guessing the limitation will either stop video recording or split the files?
Also am assuming that the video recording is not time limited?
Not tested but good to know peoples findings....
twe69 said:
Am guessing the limitation will either stop video recording or split the files?
Also am assuming that the video recording is not time limited?
Not tested but good to know peoples findings....
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Recorded videos will also be limited. The internal storage is still formatted in FAT32, and any file larger than 4GB, whatever the source, will hit the limit.
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anyone done any yet, if so whats the best converter and format to use and best res
think i heard on a review anything above 720 and it drops frames
anyone confirm this
thanks in advance
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anyone done any yet, if so whats the best converter and format to use and best res
think i heard on a review anything above 720 and it drops frames
anyone confirm this
thanks in advance
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There's a two-part video review that tried several bitrates and came up with an ideal for multiple formats based on CorePlayer's benchmarks. Check the video review thread.
As for 720, that's a 1280x720 resolution, so if you're converting specifically for the TP2, it's a waste and will yield lower quality video than a lower resolution because the device is having to scale it down. Shoot for 800x480 if you want the video to be ideal for the device.
Best converter is going to be a matter of personal taste. Many of the free compression programs out there are just frontends for programs like ffmpeg and mencoder, so the quality ends up being the same. It's just a question of what interface you prefer.
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Hi guys,
have you looked here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
regards
ive used the convertor terryd1980 linked to. and its great, slow on my pc (though that'll be my pc's fault) but after a small problem in using large 4gb+ files it seems fine now.
i did a bit of a test with a tv episode. a 1gb 720p file converted with the above and played through album (with a bitrate of 750), compared to coreplayer playing an unconverted 200mb dvd rip. although the dvd rips still looked excellent and played perfectly the originally hd file looked a touch better. i didnt notice any playback issues and there didnt appear to be any skipped frames. i dont know if there's anyway to display how many frames were dropped using album, but coreplayer shows 0 dropped frames after its finished playing.
I dont think it is your computer Jamie, mine runs fairly slowly too and I've spent a lot of cash making my PC pretty beefy.
As it seems to do a great job converting I'm not too fussed but I will leave it going in the background or before I leave for work so that it doesnt bother me.
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Hi guys,
have you looked here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
regards
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greate .. thx
Here is a short 1 minute video taken outside my house so you guys can see how well the recording is. keep in mind the files is compressed massively just 52 MB for 1 minute
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRpWn50FVwM&feature=player_embedded
Looks good to me!
heres one from inside with less light so you can see the quality difference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0J9axC99Wc
Inside is a lot more blurry but that's expected, people were saying that it was complete crap, but i'm impressed.
Have to admit, I'm not too impressed by this camera, definitely not the quality they were making it out to be...but honestly when is it ever as good as they say it is?
I am underwhelmed as well with the Hype vs Reality. I understand the ratio is always eschew but in this case it came with a bit of surprise.
The only saving grace here would be if the bitrate can be changed by us once rooted.
zonyl said:
I am underwhelmed as well with the Hype vs Reality. I understand the ratio is always eschew but in this case it came with a bit of surprise.
The only saving grace here would be if the bitrate can be changed by us once rooted.
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Changing the bitrate would be nice. I'm personally hoping a third party app comes along that does a better job at capturing video.
At this stage, i honestly would never use 720p video capture from the EVO. It just seems kind of pointless.
Hey OP, any way you can take video at different resolutions so we can compare the difference?
BadBoyNDSU said:
Changing the bitrate would be nice. I'm personally hoping a third party app comes along that does a better job at capturing video.
At this stage, i honestly would never use 720p video capture from the EVO. It just seems kind of pointless.
Hey OP, any way you can take video at different resolutions so we can compare the difference?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_7sf6bVWbI
heres a short video shot in 480p
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_7sf6bVWbI
heres a short video shot in 480p
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Thanks! Definitely 720p looks better however the bitrate just seems low. Hope this is not hitting a hardware limit.
zonyl said:
Thanks! Definitely 720p looks better however the bitrate just seems low. Hope this is not hitting a hardware limit.
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im sure once the developers make 3rd party apps its going to be 1000000x better but thats just my thoughts.
Doubt it. HTC and cameras have never been a good mix. Shame really, once again HTC makes a great device with a ****ty cam.
Video looks horrible. I really wish HTC would team up with either Nokia or SE and learn how to make better cameras. I would gladly pay an extra $50 for a real camera with lens cover.
Doesn't really matter to me. If I need to take high-quality pictures or videos, my phone isn't what I would plan to use. For impromptu photos and quick videos, I am sure this will be fine for me.
shakuyi said:
Here is a short 1 minute video taken outside my house so you guys can see how well the recording is. keep in mind the files is compressed massively just 52 MB for 1 minute
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRpWn50FVwM&feature=player_embedded
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Hey love the magnum! i know off subject. but, i'm a fan of the maggie and lx platforn period. how's gas mileage? sxt correct?
I don't trust any of the videos I've seen yet. I will make the final determination when the phone is plugged into my tv. Also I wouldn't be surprised if you can encode video in different formats and get better/worse quality.
hey shakuyi, can you get us some stills? the frame-rate on the video is borderline worthless. 480p does seem more real-time to me. i'm interested to see what inside/outside stills look like.
thanks man! good work!
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Hey love the magnum! i know off subject. but, i'm a fan of the maggie and lx platforn period. how's gas mileage? sxt correct?
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yea its sxt...i get about 20-25 mpg city and 25-30 mpg highway its awesome man
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yea its sxt...i get about 20-25 mpg city and 25-30 mpg highway its awesome man
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haha nice........ I should be getting a rt here soon. If not i will get an sxt
i thought you tubes vid quality is decreased from original !
its def better then my tp ... cant wait to get one!
Okay, so I know absolutely nothing about ROMs, so this is mostly a question of if this is possible:
Currently, the EVO's 720p video recording is lackluster. I find that the biggest reason for this is the bitrate of the video used. I imagine that the bitrate used on the video was to accommodate the included microSD card's Class 2 write speed.
Is it possible to increase the bitrate used for encoding of this video, to something ~5mbps, to which a Class 6 microSD could handle just fine? Ideally this could even be implemented as an option in the camera app, so that those who don't have/can't afford a class 6 microSD could still use the ROM.
If that is possible, what are the chances of having the video also record using a different audio codec? The current codec used is pretty much impossible to play back in anything except Quicktime (VLC's latest release candidate just added support, but it still sounds awful, like a pack of hyenas on top of the track). I'm really not particular on what audio codec is actually used; be it mp3, ogg, etc, as long as it's more easily played.
The best case scenario, the DREAM EVO ROM for camera capability for me, would be:
1. At least double the bitrate (4-5mbps) for the 720p video with an option to use old settings.
2. A better audio codec using higher quality settings (minimum 64kbps mp3/ogg/similar) that is playable in many more programs.
3. A more compatible container format like mp4/m4v.
Am I dreaming or would this be possible in a custom ROM?
Don't forget it will also be limited to how fast the hardware can encode the video. Someone with the right skills will have to push the hardware encoder to see how high they can push the bitrate without exceeding real time.
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Don't forget it will also be limited to how fast the hardware can encode the video. Someone with the right skills will have to push the hardware encoder to see how high they can push the bitrate without exceeding real time.
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Yes, there might be hardware limitations, that's sort of what I'm asking; if this is something that can be "fixed" in a ROM or if we're stuck.
I think as long as it can handle the bandwidth though, I don't see why the chip would be incapable of higher bitrates. I'm not an expert on the matter, but I thought that the less compression/higher bitrate something is, the less power was required to make it happen.
well im pretty sure this is possible, if a dev puts the time and effort into such a large project. i only say this cause the nexus one recently got 720p video recording, something it didnt have from the start. and i think its known that htc made the video recording compressed, so i think theoretically if we lift this compression and use a different form of compression, we can get higher bitrates from the video.
Yeah, I'm hoping a developer can investigate this thoroughly. Even if it takes a while, it'd be nice to know someone is at least looking into it.
And to make it worth their while, I'd be more than willing to pitch some donation funds towards such a project when it becomes successful. I doubt I'd be the only one as well.
I was wondering this also. I'm not up on the technical aspects of this, but I was also wondering if the 720p could be improved through software fix/ROM development? I agree also that I'm sure a lot would be willing to donate for such a fix.
I'm sure eventually we will get a better cam, i mean look at the how the nexus got 720p video
You can easily get 720p at 60FPS... The snapdragon can support it.
i would most certainly donate for this improvment
yup i would donate as well
we just dont have as lively a development community as the nexus yet, but we will in time - we;re gaining momentum fast
EtherealRemnant said:
You can easily get 720p at 60FPS... The snapdragon can support it.
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Is that encoding or decoding? And at what bitrate?
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Is that encoding or decoding? And at what bitrate?
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Go look at the Nexus One forum... They've got up to 1080p capture.
Realistically though, it seems silly to rely on our phones to capture HD video. I have a G9 that does that task quite handily.
All I could find was 720p capture at 20fps and a max bitrate of 12Mb, which is plenty.
This is interesting, I'd like to see this happen as well.
I'll do what I can in terms of research.
Better low-light pictures too, if at all possible
Hi I want to start this post so everyone can post their experience with the new 720 Recording Feature on the HTC Desire!
Please post Like this:
Video
Description
Problems
FPS
Rom used
I'll start:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxxPdPd8ea4
Description:
Me being very concentrated while playing the Drums... new song Bad Lighting hard sound situation (way too loud for this little Phone ) so worst case
Problems:
I see constant drops in FPS, or more likely a stuttering ever few seconds video playback just kida stops, audio is fine though! I did not have this Problems with other Roms so I think its not my SD card acting up?
FPS: 5-11 not very constant at all, although lighting was very constant (although very bad)
ROM used: LeeDroid 7.1b
Before official update:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugjI5ygsXzQ
Average/good lighting
20fps
Can't remember the rom, I think MCR v5, it was before the official update.
Not a lot of stuttering that I can notice, but the lens cover was a bit smudged and so the video came out a bit opaque.
After the update:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6KuPCn6_2M [quality should improve in a bit]
Probably a tad better lighting conditions
23fps
ieftm semi-stock rom
This is the best sample of three, one was ok, but the last one was stuttering quite a bit, as I think some background program was accessing the sd card heavily. Also lens here was a bit dirty
by the way, youtube quality doesn't render properly, linking videos should be better.
andycted said:
by the way, youtube quality doesn't render properly, linking videos should be better.
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Did not know that, your Video looks very pixelated... Is that because its on Youtube? I will edit main thread thx
finnschi said:
Did not know that, your Video looks very pixelated... Is that because its on Youtube? I will edit main thread thx
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No, I think it was me that turned contrast a bit too high and the fact that without optical zoom or camera lens optics you can get lose details in the distance on such high resolution
I gave up 720p, it is not good. Jumpy, low fps and especially ****ty voice quality.
I use 480p, but it is also not good, not too jumpy ... still ****ty voice quality.
I have 2.2 rom from here and 720p keeps freezing every few seconds.
720p is ok for me. Is it possible that its to do with the internal memory available? I have 60mb or more free, I know some people are down to low numbers. my card is a class2 too. I think the clips look better played on the PC in VLC lpayer than when I upload them to youtube. I think youtube might be introducing some of the negative aspects seen... maybe?
finnschi said:
I'll start:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxxPdPd8ea4
Description: Me being very concentrated while playing the Drums...
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Please please please... Can we please take advantage of the user interface of the XDA site?
For six months XDA has now supported YouTube embeds -- You can even see the icon in the COMPOSE screens -- though admittedly they don't tell you how to use it very easily.
BEHOLD! It's your video, and I don't have to click a new tab to see it. Magic!
Format for YouTube Embeds:
(remove spaces)
[ youtube ]just-the-video-letter/numbers[ /youtube ]
From your video above, the part that goes in between the [ youtube ] brackets follows v= NxxPdPd8ea4
Please, could you edit your first post to include the instructions. It has taken years to get XDA to embrace video. Now that they have, please support svetius, the User Experience designer of the new site, and use the tools. That's why they're here. Thank you.
P.S. -- is this jamming to the old WHO classic I CAN SEE FOR MILES ? -- just curious... in the event it is because Roger Daltrey still tours this very summer playing it -- and a friend of mine, a session guitarist in L.A., does Townsend's parts. ... Me, waiting for the answer:
"Dude, who are The Who?"
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P.S.S. Is this not the coolest thing? DUDE! Your bio here at XDA!
Occupation:
R&D at Apple Inc.
Working at Apple research... hating the iPhone
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I gotta applaud you. I have used Apple products for 25 years. And I currently use primarily Mac computers, but I also use Windows machines. Very agnostic. But I have never used the iphone, especially since Apple was nowhere in sight when I started with touchscreen smartphones 5 or 6 years ago (but I salute the Newton!)... But I'm a usability designer, so i consider myself fair. And even though I have wanted my Desire to match or exceed the 720p capability of iphone4 -- i was at the Apple store a few weeks ago getting my damp MBP repaired for 3rd time and played with the iP4 -- and the 720p recording is pretty damn good. ... Lastly -- are you familiar with the various TEST PROJECTS that have been going on here since the Nexus One to optimize 720p in this HTC class of phones? If not, search... There are a whole bunch of serious collaborative engineering projects here, and as always XDA-devs work miracles -- so I'm not giving up hope yet. We may smash that iphone yet in recoding quality -- though I doubt it... I am told it records 30fps and no matter what backflips are done here, thru Froyo or other enhancements, we can't get this hardware to meet or exceed that. Is that true?
720p is crap, its just upscale from lover res., dont use it.
more info:
The data rate of 720p is over 4 times greater than 800x480. 6000kb/sec versus 1200kb/sec. It's not purely upscaled at all. I made two sample videos of a page of text and compared.
There was ALOT more detail in the 720p video. Even when I zoomed up the 800x480 one. I agree it's not as good as "true 720 HD" but its certainly not 100% upscaled.
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The data rate of 720p is over 4 times greater than 800x480. 6000kb/sec versus 1200kb/sec. It's not purely upscaled at all. I made two sample videos of a page of text and compared.
There was ALOT more detail in the 720p video. Even when I zoomed up the 800x480 one. I agree it's not as good as "true 720 HD" but its certainly not 100% upscaled.
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1200:6000 it's 5 times more. Yes it's not true 720 hd, but I can perfectly live with that quality if we get a couple of fps more
I've taken two short videos of a label, took screenshots from video player, cropped them, resized the 480 to fit the same size as the 720 one. It's very blurry compared to the normal 720p. See the hour in the fake pda, you can't read it in the upscaled one.
Video upscalers tend to do a better job than a simple photo resize and they do introduce more data leading to a larger file size. The disire may truly just upscale the video after all. In any case, its a shame that video capture on this device is as poor as it is. I dislike Apple and their iphone, but i'll give them this; all aspects of the software work very well from go and if not, a fix/upgrade is provided in a reasonably short time.
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Video upscalers tend to do a better job than a simple photo resize and they do introduce more data leading to a larger file size. The disire may truly just upscale the video after all. In any case, its a shame that video capture on this device is as poor as it is. I dislike Apple and their iphone, but i'll give them this; all aspects of the software work very well from go and if not, a fix/upgrade is provided in a reasonably short time.
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Given the current state of their last shiny toy, I think it's a bit funny to say so.
Anyway, I've done some more tests and I can take the screen captured from a 480 video and upscale it with any tool with best quality or other algorythms and you always end up with a lot less detail than 720p, especially when there is a lot of light (unlike that test above). I don't think the desire has the processing power to do a better upscale than what I'm trying and while there might be a bit of upscaling given you have a tiny lens, it's not all there.
Also any tiny lens without zoom is pointless when taking videos from the distance anyway.
I can only get 15-16 fps... anyone can do higher?
I can easily get 25 average, outside in. good lighting, with a class 6 sd
quicksite said:
P.S. -- is this jamming to the old WHO classic I CAN SEE FOR MILES ? -- just curious... in the event it is because Roger Daltrey still tours this very summer playing it -- and a friend of mine, a session guitarist in L.A., does Townsend's parts. ...
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No its our own song, although i can see how the beginning sounds kinda like the Who
quicksite said:
I gotta applaud you. I have used Apple products for 25 years. And I currently use primarily Mac computers, but I also use Windows machines. Very agnostic. But I have never used the iphone, especially since Apple was nowhere in sight when I started with touchscreen smartphones 5 or 6 years ago (but I salute the Newton!)... But I'm a usability designer, so i consider myself fair. And even though I have wanted my Desire to match or exceed the 720p capability of iphone4 -- i was at the Apple store a few weeks ago getting my damp MBP repaired for 3rd time and played with the iP4 -- and the 720p recording is pretty damn good. ... Lastly -- are you familiar with the various TEST PROJECTS that have been going on here since the Nexus One to optimize 720p in this HTC class of phones? If not, search... There are a whole bunch of serious collaborative engineering projects here, and as always XDA-devs work miracles -- so I'm not giving up hope yet. We may smash that iphone yet in recoding quality -- though I doubt it... I am told it records 30fps and no matter what backflips are done here, thru Froyo or other enhancements, we can't get this hardware to meet or exceed that. Is that true?
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I talked to some iPhone engineers about how the iPhone can archive 30Fps ... its because all the decoding of pictures delivered by the camera is handled by the GPU... for Android its all done on the CPU! so we need to find a way to decode the video stream using the Desires GPU, but I think the iP4's GPU is far better than the Desires... i am a hardware engineer... i am in no way able to code anything like that! What Makes me curios is file size comparison between an iP4 and the Desire.
Also: Desire running a non sense rom (AOSP) just like the Nexus gives much better 720 Quality!!! so I guess its in the software
finnschi said:
I talked to some iPhone engineers about how the iPhone can archive 30Fps ... its because all the decoding of pictures delivered by the camera is handled by the GPU... for Android its all done on the CPU! so we need to find a way to decode the video stream using the Desires GPU, but I think the iP4's GPU is far better than the Desires... i am a hardware engineer... i am in no way able to code anything like that! What Makes me curios is file size comparison between an iP4 and the Desire.
Also: Desire running a non sense rom (AOSP) just like the Nexus gives much better 720 Quality!!! so I guess its in the software
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SInce I am NEITHER a hardware nor software engineer, I am useless here, other than to ask obvious questions. Your apple access to methodology of iP4's video capture is itself useful information -- something that if I were a software engineer working on the various test projects here at XDA, I would want to know. Maybe that's something they could infer, or maybe its published somewhere, or maybe it's one of those "Geez, it's so obvious do i really need to be told that?" points.
That then gets blurred and muddied by the REAL armchair knowitalls (*I* disclose that I know nothing) who pounce on a pronouncement by someone here and say "That's impossible, or that's bullcrap, look here at my image, it proves you wrong, end of story" -- only to often find --- NOT end of story and that person got it wrong.
All i know is -- my experience has told me never presume -- because this site is SO HUGE, it is actually quite often that the right hand doesn't know what left hand is up to.
I wish there were a better means of coordinating the total knowledge holders of XDA site on this 720p issue regarding TOTAL CAPABILITY, software and hardware, so there is 100% collaboration. In the end, there is only one answer: Yes, desire can meet or exceed iphone4 720 p in every measure of resolution, or not.
THE PART I DIDN"T GET:
What Makes me curios is file size comparison between an iP4 and the Desire.
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Which is bigger? what is your initial inference? larger file size = higher rez?
thank you
roufianos cooked a Rom that achieved 29-30 fps but the phone restarted after 50 seconds of recording. Was that due to overheating of the processor? I don't know. His phone gave up spirit and he is waiting for a replacement so the development of his Rom is on pause at the moment.
andycted said:
I can easily get 25 average, outside in. good lighting, with a class 6 sd
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I've not seen more than 23fps in 720p with great lighting. anyone else? I use a Class2 card so maybe using class 6 is why you get 25fps average?
mcgon1979 said:
I've not seen more than 23fps in 720p with great lighting. anyone else? I use a Class2 card so maybe using class 6 is why you get 25fps average?
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Ive managed 26fps @ 720p with my Desire running official unbranded 2.2. Im using a Class 4 card, so that might help over your Class 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saS39iqjDgs
I just compared the youtube clip to the original on my PC (i scaled the VLC window down to the same size as playing the youtube clip in its 'expanded' size) and there is definatly a small quality difference. The details on the original are noticable finer, so even @ 720p on youtube the bitrate must take a small hit.
Here is a screenshot of the comparison.
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9005/720pcomparison.jpg
Does anyone have any insight on how to record a long (1 hour+) 1080p video? The fat16/32 formatting is throwing the whole thing off. I've tried looking up NTFS supported kernels, but the only one I found posted was a test build with a bad link. It would be perfect if there was an app/script for automatically splitting the video every 2 GB... Anyone have any ideas? I need to record approx 2.5 hours worth.
2.5 hours on your phone? Are you going to the theatre to record this video? Ha Ha Ha Ha
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thatsupnow said:
2.5 hours on your phone? Are you going to the theatre to record this video? Ha Ha Ha Ha
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Ha, no I'm trying to do a time-lapse of a PC build. I tried the app lapse-it pro, but the frame rates are too low on 1080p.
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Ha, no I'm trying to do a time-lapse of a PC build. I tried the app lapse-it pro, but the frame rates are too low on 1080p.
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oh okay I see, that be cool to see. I've been playing around with the time lapse setting in tasks aokp rom and its pretty cool
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Perfect
thatsupnow said:
oh okay I see, that be cool to see. I've been playing around with the time lapse setting in tasks aokp rom and its pretty cool
Sent from the scary door....
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I just so happened to have a copy of that ROM on my memory card (the one with A2DP support too!) and the time lapse feature worked perfect! It has a high enough frame-rate to show motion, and the lack of audio keeps a 3 hour 1080p video under 2 GB. Thanks!
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I just so happened to have a copy of that ROM on my memory card (the one with A2DP support too!) and the time lapse feature worked perfect! It has a high enough frame-rate to show motion, and the lack of audio keeps a 3 hour 1080p video under 2 GB. Thanks!
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This doesn't fix my original problem where I want to store more than 4GB files on my 64GB MicroSD card.
Anonymously_Unknown said:
This doesn't fix my original problem where I want to store more than 4GB files on my 64GB MicroSD card.
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True, I would still like a kernel that supports NTFS formatted Micro SDs...