Develop Bugs

Your 720 Experience

Hi I want to start this post so everyone can post their experience with the new 720 Recording Feature on the HTC Desire!
Please post Like this:
Video
Description
Problems
FPS
Rom used
I'll start:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxxPdPd8ea4
Description:
Me being very concentrated while playing the Drums... new song Bad Lighting hard sound situation (way too loud for this little Phone ) so worst case
Problems:
I see constant drops in FPS, or more likely a stuttering ever few seconds video playback just kida stops, audio is fine though! I did not have this Problems with other Roms so I think its not my SD card acting up?
FPS: 5-11 not very constant at all, although lighting was very constant (although very bad)
ROM used: LeeDroid 7.1b

Before official update:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugjI5ygsXzQ
Average/good lighting
20fps
Can't remember the rom, I think MCR v5, it was before the official update.
Not a lot of stuttering that I can notice, but the lens cover was a bit smudged and so the video came out a bit opaque.
After the update:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6KuPCn6_2M [quality should improve in a bit]
Probably a tad better lighting conditions
23fps
ieftm semi-stock rom
This is the best sample of three, one was ok, but the last one was stuttering quite a bit, as I think some background program was accessing the sd card heavily. Also lens here was a bit dirty
by the way, youtube quality doesn't render properly, linking videos should be better.

andycted said:
by the way, youtube quality doesn't render properly, linking videos should be better.
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Did not know that, your Video looks very pixelated... Is that because its on Youtube? I will edit main thread thx

finnschi said:
Did not know that, your Video looks very pixelated... Is that because its on Youtube? I will edit main thread thx
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No, I think it was me that turned contrast a bit too high and the fact that without optical zoom or camera lens optics you can get lose details in the distance on such high resolution

I gave up 720p, it is not good. Jumpy, low fps and especially ****ty voice quality.
I use 480p, but it is also not good, not too jumpy ... still ****ty voice quality.

I have 2.2 rom from here and 720p keeps freezing every few seconds.

720p is ok for me. Is it possible that its to do with the internal memory available? I have 60mb or more free, I know some people are down to low numbers. my card is a class2 too. I think the clips look better played on the PC in VLC lpayer than when I upload them to youtube. I think youtube might be introducing some of the negative aspects seen... maybe?

finnschi said:
I'll start:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxxPdPd8ea4
Description: Me being very concentrated while playing the Drums...
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Please please please... Can we please take advantage of the user interface of the XDA site?
For six months XDA has now supported YouTube embeds -- You can even see the icon in the COMPOSE screens -- though admittedly they don't tell you how to use it very easily.
BEHOLD! It's your video, and I don't have to click a new tab to see it. Magic!
Format for YouTube Embeds:
(remove spaces)
[ youtube ]just-the-video-letter/numbers[ /youtube ]
From your video above, the part that goes in between the [ youtube ] brackets follows v= NxxPdPd8ea4
Please, could you edit your first post to include the instructions. It has taken years to get XDA to embrace video. Now that they have, please support svetius, the User Experience designer of the new site, and use the tools. That's why they're here. Thank you.
P.S. -- is this jamming to the old WHO classic I CAN SEE FOR MILES ? -- just curious... in the event it is because Roger Daltrey still tours this very summer playing it -- and a friend of mine, a session guitarist in L.A., does Townsend's parts. ... Me, waiting for the answer:
"Dude, who are The Who?"
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P.S.S. Is this not the coolest thing? DUDE! Your bio here at XDA!
Occupation:
R&D at Apple Inc.
Working at Apple research... hating the iPhone
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I gotta applaud you. I have used Apple products for 25 years. And I currently use primarily Mac computers, but I also use Windows machines. Very agnostic. But I have never used the iphone, especially since Apple was nowhere in sight when I started with touchscreen smartphones 5 or 6 years ago (but I salute the Newton!)... But I'm a usability designer, so i consider myself fair. And even though I have wanted my Desire to match or exceed the 720p capability of iphone4 -- i was at the Apple store a few weeks ago getting my damp MBP repaired for 3rd time and played with the iP4 -- and the 720p recording is pretty damn good. ... Lastly -- are you familiar with the various TEST PROJECTS that have been going on here since the Nexus One to optimize 720p in this HTC class of phones? If not, search... There are a whole bunch of serious collaborative engineering projects here, and as always XDA-devs work miracles -- so I'm not giving up hope yet. We may smash that iphone yet in recoding quality -- though I doubt it... I am told it records 30fps and no matter what backflips are done here, thru Froyo or other enhancements, we can't get this hardware to meet or exceed that. Is that true?

720p is crap, its just upscale from lover res., dont use it.
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The data rate of 720p is over 4 times greater than 800x480. 6000kb/sec versus 1200kb/sec. It's not purely upscaled at all. I made two sample videos of a page of text and compared.
There was ALOT more detail in the 720p video. Even when I zoomed up the 800x480 one. I agree it's not as good as "true 720 HD" but its certainly not 100% upscaled.

mcgon1979 said:
The data rate of 720p is over 4 times greater than 800x480. 6000kb/sec versus 1200kb/sec. It's not purely upscaled at all. I made two sample videos of a page of text and compared.
There was ALOT more detail in the 720p video. Even when I zoomed up the 800x480 one. I agree it's not as good as "true 720 HD" but its certainly not 100% upscaled.
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1200:6000 it's 5 times more. Yes it's not true 720 hd, but I can perfectly live with that quality if we get a couple of fps more
I've taken two short videos of a label, took screenshots from video player, cropped them, resized the 480 to fit the same size as the 720 one. It's very blurry compared to the normal 720p. See the hour in the fake pda, you can't read it in the upscaled one.

Video upscalers tend to do a better job than a simple photo resize and they do introduce more data leading to a larger file size. The disire may truly just upscale the video after all. In any case, its a shame that video capture on this device is as poor as it is. I dislike Apple and their iphone, but i'll give them this; all aspects of the software work very well from go and if not, a fix/upgrade is provided in a reasonably short time.

Jaa-Yoo said:
Video upscalers tend to do a better job than a simple photo resize and they do introduce more data leading to a larger file size. The disire may truly just upscale the video after all. In any case, its a shame that video capture on this device is as poor as it is. I dislike Apple and their iphone, but i'll give them this; all aspects of the software work very well from go and if not, a fix/upgrade is provided in a reasonably short time.
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Given the current state of their last shiny toy, I think it's a bit funny to say so.
Anyway, I've done some more tests and I can take the screen captured from a 480 video and upscale it with any tool with best quality or other algorythms and you always end up with a lot less detail than 720p, especially when there is a lot of light (unlike that test above). I don't think the desire has the processing power to do a better upscale than what I'm trying and while there might be a bit of upscaling given you have a tiny lens, it's not all there.
Also any tiny lens without zoom is pointless when taking videos from the distance anyway.

I can only get 15-16 fps... anyone can do higher?

I can easily get 25 average, outside in. good lighting, with a class 6 sd

quicksite said:
P.S. -- is this jamming to the old WHO classic I CAN SEE FOR MILES ? -- just curious... in the event it is because Roger Daltrey still tours this very summer playing it -- and a friend of mine, a session guitarist in L.A., does Townsend's parts. ...
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No its our own song, although i can see how the beginning sounds kinda like the Who
quicksite said:
I gotta applaud you. I have used Apple products for 25 years. And I currently use primarily Mac computers, but I also use Windows machines. Very agnostic. But I have never used the iphone, especially since Apple was nowhere in sight when I started with touchscreen smartphones 5 or 6 years ago (but I salute the Newton!)... But I'm a usability designer, so i consider myself fair. And even though I have wanted my Desire to match or exceed the 720p capability of iphone4 -- i was at the Apple store a few weeks ago getting my damp MBP repaired for 3rd time and played with the iP4 -- and the 720p recording is pretty damn good. ... Lastly -- are you familiar with the various TEST PROJECTS that have been going on here since the Nexus One to optimize 720p in this HTC class of phones? If not, search... There are a whole bunch of serious collaborative engineering projects here, and as always XDA-devs work miracles -- so I'm not giving up hope yet. We may smash that iphone yet in recoding quality -- though I doubt it... I am told it records 30fps and no matter what backflips are done here, thru Froyo or other enhancements, we can't get this hardware to meet or exceed that. Is that true?
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I talked to some iPhone engineers about how the iPhone can archive 30Fps ... its because all the decoding of pictures delivered by the camera is handled by the GPU... for Android its all done on the CPU! so we need to find a way to decode the video stream using the Desires GPU, but I think the iP4's GPU is far better than the Desires... i am a hardware engineer... i am in no way able to code anything like that! What Makes me curios is file size comparison between an iP4 and the Desire.
Also: Desire running a non sense rom (AOSP) just like the Nexus gives much better 720 Quality!!! so I guess its in the software

finnschi said:
I talked to some iPhone engineers about how the iPhone can archive 30Fps ... its because all the decoding of pictures delivered by the camera is handled by the GPU... for Android its all done on the CPU! so we need to find a way to decode the video stream using the Desires GPU, but I think the iP4's GPU is far better than the Desires... i am a hardware engineer... i am in no way able to code anything like that! What Makes me curios is file size comparison between an iP4 and the Desire.
Also: Desire running a non sense rom (AOSP) just like the Nexus gives much better 720 Quality!!! so I guess its in the software
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SInce I am NEITHER a hardware nor software engineer, I am useless here, other than to ask obvious questions. Your apple access to methodology of iP4's video capture is itself useful information -- something that if I were a software engineer working on the various test projects here at XDA, I would want to know. Maybe that's something they could infer, or maybe its published somewhere, or maybe it's one of those "Geez, it's so obvious do i really need to be told that?" points.
That then gets blurred and muddied by the REAL armchair knowitalls (*I* disclose that I know nothing) who pounce on a pronouncement by someone here and say "That's impossible, or that's bullcrap, look here at my image, it proves you wrong, end of story" -- only to often find --- NOT end of story and that person got it wrong.
All i know is -- my experience has told me never presume -- because this site is SO HUGE, it is actually quite often that the right hand doesn't know what left hand is up to.
I wish there were a better means of coordinating the total knowledge holders of XDA site on this 720p issue regarding TOTAL CAPABILITY, software and hardware, so there is 100% collaboration. In the end, there is only one answer: Yes, desire can meet or exceed iphone4 720 p in every measure of resolution, or not.
THE PART I DIDN"T GET:
What Makes me curios is file size comparison between an iP4 and the Desire.
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Which is bigger? what is your initial inference? larger file size = higher rez?
thank you

roufianos cooked a Rom that achieved 29-30 fps but the phone restarted after 50 seconds of recording. Was that due to overheating of the processor? I don't know. His phone gave up spirit and he is waiting for a replacement so the development of his Rom is on pause at the moment.

andycted said:
I can easily get 25 average, outside in. good lighting, with a class 6 sd
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I've not seen more than 23fps in 720p with great lighting. anyone else? I use a Class2 card so maybe using class 6 is why you get 25fps average?

mcgon1979 said:
I've not seen more than 23fps in 720p with great lighting. anyone else? I use a Class2 card so maybe using class 6 is why you get 25fps average?
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Ive managed 26fps @ 720p with my Desire running official unbranded 2.2. Im using a Class 4 card, so that might help over your Class 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saS39iqjDgs
I just compared the youtube clip to the original on my PC (i scaled the VLC window down to the same size as playing the youtube clip in its 'expanded' size) and there is definatly a small quality difference. The details on the original are noticable finer, so even @ 720p on youtube the bitrate must take a small hit.
Here is a screenshot of the comparison.
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9005/720pcomparison.jpg

We need a better video camera

So just browsing along I stumbled on this video review of the camera app. I knew our DINC's had problems with video, but WOW, is it really this bad?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzglMIwpYo4
I'm sure there has to be a developer that can maybe come out with a fix for this

theguy386 said:
So just browsing along I stumbled on this video review of the camera app. I knew our DINC's had problems with video, but WOW, is it really this bad?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzglMIwpYo4
I'm sure there has to be a developer that can maybe come out with a fix for this
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i'm not sure what a dev could do to fix this. it seems that the issues with the pixel density and audio aren't something that could be overcome with patching a file from another OS or even an app...
my advice is this:
if you want a better video experience, buy a dedicated video camera or a dedicated camera with video functions. as a phone, it's a balancing act. you're not gonna get the best of ALL worlds, but including hardware and features for things like recording video in 720p is pretty handy and convenient when you're caught without a dedicated camera or video device. i wouldn't rely 100% on my phone as my primary device for anything except phone calls. but to each their own

That video showed me at least one new thing: I didn't realize that with 2.2 and 720p recording, H.264 isn't available. With H.264 selected, the highest available resolution drops to WVGA (800x480). Only H.263 and MPEG4 are available in 720p. Does anyone know if this is true on other Froyo devices, like the Nexus One? Or did something get changed when 2.2 went through HTC?
Perhaps the OP is right, I think that with a software update of some kind, H.264 for 720p could be enabled on the Droid Incredible, as well as higher bitrate audio. The OP's video suggests those two things to be major reasons as to why the camcorder quality is so different. Anyone know if Cyanogen is working on 720p H.264 as well as his continuous autofocus awesomeness?
Of course the actual optics are a bit different between the two devices as well, but I'd like to think the Droid Incredible has a better camera than those camera tests seem to show.

chameleon131 said:
That video showed me at least one new thing: I didn't realize that with 2.2 and 720p recording, H.264 isn't available. With H.264 selected, the highest available resolution drops to WVGA (800x480). Only H.263 and MPEG4 are available in 720p. Does anyone know if this is true on other Froyo devices, like the Nexus One? Or did something get changed when 2.2 went through HTC?
Perhaps the OP is right, I think that with a software update of some kind, H.264 for 720p could be enabled on the Droid Incredible, as well as higher bitrate audio. The OP's video suggests those two things to be major reasons as to why the camcorder quality is so different. Anyone know if Cyanogen is working on 720p H.264 as well as his continuous autofocus awesomeness?
Of course the actual optics are a bit different between the two devices as well, but I'd like to think the Droid Incredible has a better camera than those camera tests seem to show.
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i'll ask my friends with other devices that are capable of 720p and see what they say, will post findings
EDIT: samsung captivate doesn't have encoding settings. we didn't record a video to see what it saved it as, either. but there is no option in the settings to change encoding, only resolution.

chameleon131 said:
That video showed me at least one new thing: I didn't realize that with 2.2 and 720p recording, H.264 isn't available. With H.264 selected, the highest available resolution drops to WVGA (800x480). Only H.263 and MPEG4 are available in 720p. Does anyone know if this is true on other Froyo devices, like the Nexus One? Or did something get changed when 2.2 went through HTC?
Perhaps the OP is right, I think that with a software update of some kind, H.264 for 720p could be enabled on the Droid Incredible, as well as higher bitrate audio. The OP's video suggests those two things to be major reasons as to why the camcorder quality is so different. Anyone know if Cyanogen is working on 720p H.264 as well as his continuous autofocus awesomeness?
Of course the actual optics are a bit different between the two devices as well, but I'd like to think the Droid Incredible has a better camera than those camera tests seem to show.
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I have been thinking the same thing. I even posted about changing the codec but no one responded.
I was reading on the evo forum about the camera software and several posters suspected that the compression is what is making the video not as good as it could be. They also had the same thought about enabling h.264.
I would definitively pay for these features.
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You bought a cell phone? What do you expect? ITS NOT GONNA HAVE AN AWESOME CAMERA/CAMCORDER BUILT IN!!!!!! Get over it... If you want high quality then buy a standalone camcorder. Phones weren't made to take great videos. They are more for like a quick need thing. Maybe you see some cops doing something underhanded, see some kind of crime in progress, stupid things that happen at a party that you feel are important, etc.

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You bought a cell phone? What do you expect? ITS NOT GONNA HAVE AN AWESOME CAMERA/CAMCORDER BUILT IN!!!!!! Get over it... If you want high quality then buy a standalone camcorder. Phones weren't made to take great videos. They are more for like a quick need thing. Maybe you see some cops doing something underhanded, see some kind of crime in progress, stupid things that happen at a party that you feel are important, etc.
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yeah pretty much what i was going to say

I thought XDA was about getting the most out of your device through tips, tricks, tweaks and hacks, and that it's been that way for some time. Maybe I'm mistaken.
I think trying to squeeze the best performance out of your device's camera is perfectly legit, OP.
Am I wrong?
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Anyway, that's weird and seems pretty pitiful that the Captivate won't even let you change the codec setting at all. Better for user experience I suppose, not to have to mess with codecs to try to get the best picture. I'm curious what codec it defaults to. I wonder what a comparison between the Captivate and Incredible camcorder would look like.

The camera indeed has some problem on the Incredible. My incredible will flicker in low light condition even in camera mode. I had to return and exchange one, but the problem is still there just less severe.

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You bought a cell phone? What do you expect? ITS NOT GONNA HAVE AN AWESOME CAMERA/CAMCORDER BUILT IN!!!!!! Get over it... If you want high quality then buy a standalone camcorder. Phones weren't made to take great videos. They are more for like a quick need thing. Maybe you see some cops doing something underhanded, see some kind of crime in progress, stupid things that happen at a party that you feel are important, etc.
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With the power this phone possesses, the video sucks. I would not only expect it to be better, but use the latest codecs and not amr audio and save files in .3gp! What good is high def video if I can't play it on my Xbox or PS3, or other media boxes?. That's a joke. I think as long as the iPhone can do it, maybe Droid should.
I didn't buy a cell phone. I bought a multi-hundred dollar smartphone with an 8mp camera that BOASTS 720p video. If I bought a RAZR I would accept it.
I found your post rude and unhelpful.

Lazyworm YouTube 2.0 does HQ over 3G!

This is huge for non-HTC WP7 devices. The latest Lazyworm YouTube app does proper HQ video over 3G. Very nice!

Already available on RealTube and SuperTube...no big deal...and you can always sideload the debranded HTC Youtube app on your phone...
But yes, for the general masses, this is great news...
UPDATE: I take back what I said. This new version is REALLY GOOD! The quality is still only at 480p level, even with HQ, but the features, and the UI alone make this a must have download...
Still, should have SuperTube for 720p and downloads...

The framerate of full-screen videos is very poor with this new version. The Microsoft YouTube app and the HTC YouTube app don't have this problem.

kapanak said:
The quality is still only at 480p level, even with HQ, but the features, and the UI alone make this a must have download...
Still, should have SuperTube for 720p and downloads...
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Indeed, the quality of SuperTube or RealTube is really better unfortunately (especially over 3G).
And with SuperTube you can also download.
I hope the video quality can be improved, because the UI of LazyTube is very nice.

Would anyone care to elaborate the benefit of a 720p over a 480p video on a 800x480 screen?

Quick demo of what 2.0 has to offer
youtube.com/watch?v=p6gmHsHmUGA
*forums won't let me add proper YT link as I'm a "newbie" on here
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This is huge for non-HTC WP7 devices. The latest Lazyworm YouTube app does proper HQ video over 3G. Very nice!
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Thanks for the post, glad to see you like it! Although I would hope that it's also huge news for HTC WP7 devices as well
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Already available on RealTube and SuperTube...no big deal...and you can always sideload the debranded HTC Youtube app on your phone...
But yes, for the general masses, this is great news...
UPDATE: I take back what I said. This new version is REALLY GOOD! The quality is still only at 480p level, even with HQ, but the features, and the UI alone make this a must have download...
Still, should have SuperTube for 720p and downloads...
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Haha, relieved that you took the time to check it out. 2.0 has been months in the making and has taken much thought, research and design to get to where it's at.
arturobandini said:
Indeed, the quality of SuperTube or RealTube is really better unfortunately (especially over 3G).
And with SuperTube you can also download.
I hope the video quality can be improved, because the UI of LazyTube is very nice.
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We actually know how to implement video download however we are a little reluctant to release this feature in fear of future ramifications (to our understanding it breaches YT terms of service).
Having said that, Microsoft don't seem to mind and if it's going to be held against us by the public we may be forced to support it.
With regards to video stream quality, expect to see the full range added into the next LazyTube update so please stay tuned !
Thanks guys.

Thank you very much LazyWormsApps for this message.
I bought LazyTube today and must say I really like it.
Compared to RealTube or SuperTube the search engine is far more efficient and the results are more relevant.
Great work. I am looking forward for the next updates

Lol. Just realized someting.

1080p on any tw rom on this phone doesn't work. It can only record up to 720p. Hax
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It works in mine but I'm on GB not ICS.

Works for me too. 720 is less apt to drop frames in my experience.

Huh?? Overstew, are you drinking? Every rom for this phone is TW aside from CM7/9 and so far they all seem to be recording in 1080p. Though 720p looks much better IMO, I really hate that zoom on 1080p.

KCRic said:
Huh?? Overstew, are you drinking? Every rom for this phone is TW aside from CM7/9 and so far they all seem to be recording in 1080p. Though 720p looks much better IMO, I really hate that zoom on 1080p.
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That's what I'm referring to. 1080p isn't true 1080p because the resolution in which it records is no different than 480p. 720p is true 720p on this device.

Overstew said:
That's what I'm referring to. 1080p isn't true 1080p because the resolution in which it records is no different than 480p. 720p is true 720p on this device.
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Oh I see. I've never taken the time to do it but are there the correct number of lines of resolution on the 1080p video? Regardless, it seems like a cheat to increase the resolution on a smaller field of view than to give us the full widescreen image at the same resolution. I heard it has something to do with only part of the sensor being used for 1080p (the inner portion) so while it looks zoomed, it's really not. The bitrates are higher - for what it's worth.

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Oh I see. I've never taken the time to do it but are there the correct number of lines of resolution on the 1080p video? Regardless, it seems like a cheat to increase the resolution on a smaller field of view than to give us the full widescreen image at the same resolution. I heard it has something to do with only part of the sensor being used for 1080p (the inner portion) so while it looks zoomed, it's really not. The bitrates are higher - for what it's worth.
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Eh, if it's "true" 1080p, it's outdone by the 720p setting, which defeats the purpose of advertising 1080p.

Technically 1080p, realistically, not what you expect from 1080p recording.

Anybody upload to PC both 720 and 1080 of the same scene and does it still crop the 1080 when viewed on the PC monitor ,for example maybe we are not seeing the whole picture and the edges that got cropped will return when viewed on a hi Res monitor .. just a theory I hope is true
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djjosh said:
Anybody upload to PC both 720 and 1080 of the same scene and does it still crop the 1080 when viewed on the PC monitor
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I'll try now.
EDIT: Gotta restore my Blazer. lol MIUI recording doesn't work atm.

I've never tried to record anything in 1080p so I never really noticed...

I don't know why your avatar said ET4G...............the correct name for sprint Galaxy S2 is called Epic 4G Touch....short for E4GT

yang704 said:
I don't know why your avatar said ET4G...............the correct name for sprint Galaxy S2 is called Epic 4G Touch....short for E4GT
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Epic Touch 4G
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I'm pretty sure that when recording 1080p the preview window shows the 720p or (more likely) WVGA square in the center of the actual 1080p video. My theory is that it might be a little too much to ask to both record 1080p at a reasonable frame-rate and to do realtime scaling for the preview at the same time.
....when viewing my videos on my monitor they sure don't look as zoomed in and wacky as they do when capturing.
edit: The 1080p really does look fantastic if you have great lighting and DO NOT MOVE THE PHONE AT ALL. The scene can be very high motion, just don't move the scene....the tearing/warping is horrrrible.

Overstew said:
I'll try now.
EDIT: Gotta restore my Blazer. lol MIUI recording doesn't work atm.
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has anyone else noticed this **** happens hella often? the first person to volunteer to try something always ends not being able to try it because there's something wrong with their phone. and then they either forget about it, or when they do try it they never post the results.
not doggin on overstew, i just see this happen all the time, and everytime i'm like "man, comethefuck on, every time!!"

I'm want to record the same scene with maybe a pole or other object on the edge of the screen ,play it on the PC and see if that pole is still on the edge of the screen but I'm still at work
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oscarthegrouch said:
Works for me too. 720 is less apt to drop frames in my experience.
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Thank you,about mf time someone noticed that.
720 is real nice with almost zero lag.While 1080p has ghosting/lag effect with moving objects.
I had 3 different epics and they are all the same-1080 recording is uselless,they probably included that option to market epic but in real life it doesnt work good.
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daneurysm said:
I'm pretty sure that when recording 1080p the preview window shows the 720p or (more likely) WVGA square in the center of the actual 1080p video. My theory is that it might be a little too much to ask to both record 1080p at a reasonable frame-rate and to do realtime scaling for the preview at the same time.
....when viewing my videos on my monitor they sure don't look as zoomed in and wacky as they do when capturing.
edit: The 1080p really does look fantastic if you have great lighting and DO NOT MOVE THE PHONE AT ALL. The scene can be very high motion, just don't move the scene....the tearing/warping is horrrrible.
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Yeah,it is nice if you filming some slow moving robots but beyond that the tear is horrible.I wonder if there a fix for it or maybe someone will make a camera mod that can record with higher resolition than 720p but not as high as 1080.
I noticed the lower the resolution,the less lag camera has.

yang704 said:
I don't know why your avatar said ET4G...............the correct name for sprint Galaxy S2 is called Epic 4G Touch....short for E4GT
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Uh no at Sprint we call it the Epic Touch 4g. Sorry yang you my friend are wrong. That could be your yin though.
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wytecaztle said:
Uh no at Sprint we call it the Epic Touch 4g. Sorry yang you my friend are wrong. That could be your yin though.
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http://gyazo.com/65ff1b467bfca037da605fefcb1a09a7
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sorry, not trying to be rude.. so i hope i dont come across that way

shabbypenguin said:
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Total pwnage lol

Pixel XL Video Recording

So with the announcement out of the way, a DXO Mark assessment complete and all the specs published I'm left wondering about video recording. The 6P recorded in 4K at 30FPS, 1080P at 30FPS and Slow Motion at 120FPS and 240FPS and without OIS it was shaky as hell. Both GSM Arena and the DXO Mark list 1080p 30/60/120FPS for the Pixels which piqued my interest.
Will we be getting 60FPS 1080p?
The image stabilisation on at the demo looked very impressive too and I believe that was at 4K but we'll have to wait and see if it's actually that good...

Hoodeddeathman said:
So with the announcement out of the way, a DXO Mark assessment complete and all the specs published I'm left wondering about video recording. The 6P recorded in 4K at 30FPS, 1080P at 30FPS and Slow Motion at 120FPS and 240FPS and without OIS it was shaky as hell. Both GSM Arena and the DXO Mark list 1080p 30/60/120FPS for the Pixels which piqued my interest.
Will we be getting 60FPS 1080p?
The image stabilisation on at the demo looked very impressive too and I believe that was at 4K but we'll have to wait and see if it's actually that good...
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I forgot where I saw the spec but I did see somewhere that it does to 60fps 1080p. I'll see if I can find it.
http://m.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_xl-8345.php a few hands on videos mentioned it as well

Boswell20 said:
I forgot where I saw the spec but I did see somewhere that it does to 60fps 1080p. I'll see if I can find it.
http://m.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_xl-8345.php a few hands on videos mentioned it as well
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At long last, if this is available and the stabilisation is as good as they demo'd it'll be a great camcorder.

DXO said there was still Jello effect associated with EIS with videos. I guess we'll have to wait and see what it's truly like.

Hoodeddeathman said:
So with the announcement out of the way, a DXO Mark assessment complete and all the specs published I'm left wondering about video recording. The 6P recorded in 4K at 30FPS, 1080P at 30FPS and Slow Motion at 120FPS and 240FPS and without OIS it was shaky as hell. Both GSM Arena and the DXO Mark list 1080p 30/60/120FPS for the Pixels which piqued my interest.
Will we be getting 60FPS 1080p?
The image stabilisation on at the demo looked very impressive too and I believe that was at 4K but we'll have to wait and see if it's actually that good...
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Boswell20 said:
I forgot where I saw the spec but I did see somewhere that it does to 60fps 1080p. I'll see if I can find it.
http://m.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_xl-8345.php a few hands on videos mentioned it as well
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B3501 said:
DXO said there was still Jello effect associated with EIS with videos. I guess we'll have to wait and see what it's truly like.
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tigercranestyle said:
meh. they go on to say it's very common among smartphones and nothing serious to affect its score.
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According to this video, there is no [email protected] option:
https://youtu.be/jg-7HwllfFc?t=5m42s
Anyway, I'm really suspicious about this new kind of EIS, because no matter what, EIS is really far away to give similar results than OIS.
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Galaxo60 said:
According to this video, there is no [email protected] option:
?t=5m42s
Anyway, I'm really suspicious about this new kind of EIS, because no matter what, EIS is really far away to give similar results than OIS.
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It does have 60fps. It must be in the settings that you choose the frame rate. In that video provided, it's just the choice of what quality you want, not the fps.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.red...fps_video_recording/?client=ms-android-google
This is another confirmation. We still have hope! :victory:

early released video, for what its worth.
https://youtu.be/oLByqWyq5Js

Boswell20 said:
It does have 60fps. It must be in the settings that you choose the frame rate. In that video provided, it's just the choice of what quality you want, not the fps.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.red...fps_video_recording/?client=ms-android-google
This is another confirmation. We still have hope! :victory:
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The only thing why I didn't buy the 6P, because it was pretty stupid they didn't add this when even mid-range phone have them. On the other hand, I would love to see manual controls on the camera, because every flagship should have them and people who likes photography greatly appreciate this.
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early released video, for what its worth.
https://youtu.be/oLByqWyq5Js
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" I will say the Image stabilization needs some work"
Looks good indeed, because stabilization usually doesn't work on 4K, but still we can't guarantee that the video was edited or manipulated in any way; we should wait for real reviews and camera tests, because I think is the only good thing this phone has.
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Galaxo60 said:
The only thing why I didn't buy the 6P, because it was pretty stupid they didn't add this when even mid-range phone have them. On the other hand, I would love to see manual controls on the camera, because every flagship should have them and people who likes photography greatly appreciate this.
" I will say the Image stabilization needs some work"
Looks good indeed, because stabilization usually doesn't work on 4K, but still we can't guarantee that the video was edited or manipulated in any way; we should wait for real reviews and camera tests, because I think is the only good thing this phone has.
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Phone Arena seem to think that it's one of the first with EIS at 4K, I hope so!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Goog...apable-of-recording-4K-video-with-EIS_id86368