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Hi all,
I've set some profiles in SetCPU but haven't noticed too much in battery life savings. I was wondering what others who are using CM 6.1 have been doing/would recommend. Should I get rid of the profiles and just have it set to on demand? Do I really need it at all with CM?
Many thanks!
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geckobear said:
Hi all,
I've set some profiles in SetCPU but haven't noticed too much in battery life savings. I was wondering what others who are using CM 6.1 have been doing/would recommend. Should I get rid of the profiles and just have it set to on demand? Do I really need it at all with CM?
Many thanks!
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How high are you overclocking?
What's your usage?
What's are your profiles?
Overclocking to 1401 on demand
I use power amp with scrobbing to last fm for probably an hour or two when not charging, while playing games that aren't to elaborate (boring stuff like sudoko) during my commute to/from work, which is probably my heaviest usage. I also do the same music set up while at work but I'm plugged in most of the time for that and volume is way down. Calls range from 30 min to an hour a day. Some intermittent web and video streaming while at home and on wifi. Typically only on wifi when at home, only when I need heavy data. Data sync is turned off when I'm not charging unless I want to sync.
I have profiles of 368/245 while sleeping, 75 priority; 738/245 when temp is 40.5 C, 60 Priority, 1401/245 when plugged and fully charged, 50; 368/245 when battery less than 10, 60; 806/245 when battery less than 40, 50 priority.
I'm thinking the fully charged one is probably redundant. Should I raise the priority on some of them?
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How high are you overclocking?
What's your usage?
What's are your profiles?
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I always set temp as the highest priority however i OC a lot higher then you. What oc kernel are you useing? This makes a huge difference some have a lot more steps which allow better power use. Pershoot is the most efficient imo right now.
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I think I'm just using the cyogen mod kernel...but I'm new at this so I am a little clueless on that part. I did set higher priority on the temp and the screen off, got rid of the charging profile. I'm at 13% battery after about 15 hours, which isn't horrible but not the 30 hours some folks have been posting.
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had to dig back to find a good thread to post this on....
so I'm really leaning toward deciding that setcpu profiles do more harm than good in terms of battery. I had profiles set for temp, screen off, charging, battery below 30, and battery below 10. its pretty clear to me now that it wasn't helping my battery. and the only time I even had it overclocked was while charging.
next I'm going to just enable only a screen off profile, and see if having setcpu monitor for less profiles makes a difference. i'm not going to overclock at all. we'll see what happens.
btw I've had a rooted android phone since the G1 so its not like I don't have experience with setcpu. seems that setcpu affects different phones in different ways. so I'm still figuring out how it is on the G2.
anyone have any thoughts on this?
The screen off profile does not work.
Just use the phone out of the box and charge when its empty
snudel said:
The screen off profile does not work.
Just use the phone out of the box and charge when its empty
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really? I hadn't heard that. is this confirmed?
though, it never seemed to make all that much sense anyway, as I wouldn'y think there would be any reason for the cpu not to remain at a low freq with the screen off
The screen off profile works for me. I just set to "ondemand". Lately I've been using "cpu tuner" instead and have noticed better battery life then with set cpu. Plus with cpu tuner you get more profile options.
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To be honest, not sure if its the case for you but profiles was the cause of my battery life drain. I took off all profiles and only kept screen off. Even since I did that I get about 24 hours + of battery.
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luis86dr said:
To be honest, not sure if its the case for you but profiles was the cause of my battery life drain. I took off all profiles and only kept screen off. Even since I did that I get about 24 hours + of battery.
[G2/HTC Vision]
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I had a similar experience. The more profiles I had enabled, the faster my battery would drain.
I am using the same setup now and have great battery life. Even with heavy usage I can make it through the entire day without needing a charge.
Running On Demand 1209/245 and screen off 245/245.
Haha this was an old thread. I'm now on CM7 nightlies and would say that in my experience I've had the best battery life running no profiles whatsoever in setcpu. I only overclock to 1017 and it's been pretty snappy still. My experience in going higher than this on CM7 has lead to issues with wake, temperature and battery drain. I personally Have no need for more than 1017.
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agreed. this setcpu stuff did not help at my device. nor did it work reliant.
i am managing 1day with heavy use and a full weekend with moderate use without any "tuning".
that is enough for me.
I used setcpu for awhile, but I have been much happier using cpu tuner and "power control".
My battery life is increased by 12 to 24hrs. The key for me is really using power control to manage the screen brightness and under clocking rather than overclocking. The only time I found overclocking usedful was when playing fifa10.
Good luck
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I have been using Htc Desire + Motorola Milestone + samsung galaxy s these few days. It seems that my Desire, although lowest usage used up battery faster than milestone and galaxy, even in sleep mode! ( As for background syncing, milestone and galaxy used instant while desire is set to sync every 4hrs)
Is there anyway to at least increase the battery life?
In the first tow weeks the battery will not preform optimal, it needs a couple of charges before it operates as it should. Also if it seems that the battery drains to fast even in sleep mode, install current widget, set it to refresh every 5 minutes and to write a log. Normally the phone should use 5 to 10 mA on average during normal 3g standby (everything that allows push is set to push) and not more than 1 mA in flight mode. If your consumption is substantially higher than this you have either some very bad sync settings or there is a app running/syncing in the background when it should not be doing that. To check this dial *#*#4636#*#* and go to the battery usage and check the partial wake time.
Also are you using a task killer or does your Desire have worse mobile connection that the other phones (different network)?
To answer your question, yes there is something you can do to increase the battery life. There are different apps that help safe battery life, you can underclock and/or undervolt the cpu, swiching form 3g to 2g when no heavy internet is required, using as much a possible dark colors (only for amoled i believe) or lowering the background light.
But all this won't matter much if there is a background process which prevents the phone from sleeping.
TheGhost1233 said:
In the first tow weeks the battery will not preform optimal, it needs a couple of charges before it operates as it should. Also if it seems that the battery drains to fast even in sleep mode, install current widget, set it to refresh every 5 minutes and to write a log. Normally the phone should use 5 to 10 mA on average during normal 3g standby (everything that allows push is set to push) and not more than 1 mA in flight mode. If your consumption is substantially higher than this you have either some very bad sync settings or there is a app running/syncing in the background when it should not be doing that. To check this dial *#*#4636#*#* and go to the battery usage and check the partial wake time.
Also are you using a task killer or does your Desire have worse mobile connection that the other phones (different network)?
To answer your question, yes there is something you can do to increase the battery life. There are different apps that help safe battery life, you can underclock and/or undervolt the cpu, swiching form 3g to 2g when no heavy internet is required, using as much a possible dark colors (only for amoled i believe) or lowering the background light.
But all this won't matter much if there is a background process which prevents the phone from sleeping.
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i have been using desire since june, its just that i use all 3 together recently and discover its's much battery draining. I seen the battery usage, and i saw radio cell is the highest standing at 80% while motorola milestone is around around 3%
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i have been using desire since june, its just that i use all 3 together recently and discover its's much battery draining. I seen the battery usage, and i saw radio cell is the highest standing at 80% while motorola milestone is around around 3%
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Ofc it also depends on the roms you have on them and the radios, it'hard to tell...what have you got on your desire?
Thats not nice, my total cell standby and phone idle times total about 80% of the battery usage and i get 2 days out of one charge and if i don't play with it a lot and only use it as a phone( ) i got 3 days for one charge.
Oh one more thing, I got an S-LCD unit with a snow wallpaper.
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Ofc it also depends on the roms you have on them and the radios, it'hard to tell...what have you got on your desire?
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I using the office Rom given by HTC
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I get AMAZING battery life when I'm on wifi but terrible battery when I'm not. I send/receive about 300 texts a day easily and so I have the screen on frequently. I also use web a lot. On wifi my battery will last about 20-24 hours probably. Currently I'm at 67% on 6 hours. Without wifi, I will get about 8-10 hours with the same kind of usage.
I just want to know why there is such a large discrepancy. Im in NYC so my signal is pretty strong.
I used to think it was the screen that used up so much of my battery life but now I'm thinking it's the radio.
I'm on Juggernaut. If anyone has a suggestion I'm all for it. Should I try a different kernel? If so, which one?
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Jugs with dark x kernel works very well with me i use faux clock to clock it at 1.7 and 384 gettin 16-17 hours of battery life with lots if texting and browsing hope it works
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So when you use your phone, do you not expect the battery life to go down? It can't stay at 100% after everything your doing..
I recommend Juice Defender. It turns off data when your screen is off. Sounds like you're getting a lot of screen off drain.
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So when you use your phone, do you not expect the battery life to go down? It can't stay at 100% after everything your doing..
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I do expect it to go down. Hence I thought it was normal until I noticed a huge difference in battery between being on 4g v. wifi and getting double the battery life while doing the same things.
I'm just wondering why the 4g takes that much more than my wifi and if a kernel would be an issue
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I do expect it to go down. Hence I thought it was normal until I noticed a huge difference in battery between being on 4g v. wifi and getting double the battery life while doing the same things.
I'm just wondering why the 4g takes that much more than my wifi and if a kernel would be an issue
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The simplest explanation that I can come up with is twofold.
First 4G requires a MIMO type of connection, even on T-Mobile. So for the really high speed connection it actually uses more than 1 antenna and powering more than one antenna takes up more power.
The second part is that 4G connections are not as prevalent as 3G connections so your phone has to search for the closest 4G network more often to maintain the fastest connection and the network searching takes up even more data then than the MIMO style connection the phone uses for 4G.
The combination of these two will drain your battery much faster than a single antenna connection to your home wi-fi that does not have to pass as many syn/ack packets to maintain the connection as the 4G network and thus uses less energy.
(MIMO stands for multiple in, multiple out which means it uses more than one antenna for incoming and outgoing transmissions)
(Wirless-N is MIMO based as well but does need to use as many "discovery or syn/ack packets" to maintain the connection)
I second juice defender. You can configure it to turn off data while the screen is off which will not effect your ability to receive phone calls or text messages.
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This is a small easy fix that I use whenever I am trying to conserve my battery on the go. It is very simple I just disable my mobile network/ 3G Data under wireless settings. Using 3G/4G data consumes alot of the battery for some reason I've noticed more drain on 3G. This helps me alot with saving my battery for a day on heavy usage and I can still receive calls and text msgs. Then just use wifi when you browse or simply turn your Data back on. Hope it helps
You'd be better off with an app like "easy battery saver" which turns off your mobile data when your screen is off but still allows you to use the device when you need to without constantly toggling.
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I use juice defender. Best one available as there is more customization options
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Why would i neuter my phone?
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i use juice defender ultimate and setcpu to undervolt and set the cpu to 1ghz max. I havent noticed a single hitch, so its worth it for me. Also using Blazer 4.1. i never actually run my battery down since I charge overnight for the next day, but if I were to i could easily get 35+ hours on medium use.
I do that whenever I am in an area with poor signal or roaming. A Sprint phone will eat up battery hunting for 3g signal
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That's for sure. I get pretty bad battery life..
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whats your screen time? that makes the biggest difference. I went 35 hours and only went down to 51% once, but that was only with about an hour of screen time.
Best jump in battery life I've had it's flashing a modem from the ICS leaks.
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clip3009 said:
This is a small easy fix that I use whenever I am trying to conserve my battery on the go. It is very simple I just disable my mobile network/ 3G Data under wireless settings. Using 3G/4G data consumes alot of the battery for some reason I've noticed more drain on 3G. This helps me alot with saving my battery for a day on heavy usage and I can still receive calls and text msgs. Then just use wifi when you browse or simply turn your Data back on. Hope it helps
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This feature is integrated into AOKP
Transmission sent from a Galaxy S II, AOKP style.
mattykinsx said:
You'd be better off with an app like "easy battery saver" which turns off your mobile data when your screen is off but still allows you to use the device when you need to without constantly toggling.
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I think turning mobile data off at all would be for only extreme cases where I was going to be away from a charger for a crazy amount of time. For me, the use of widgets (google reader, apw facebook and twitter) allow me to turn on my phone, flip to a few home screens, and turn it back off. Screen time for me is always incredibly low, which keeps my battery life high.
I do this when I'm running low on battery with no charging option
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Juice Defender set on defaults gives me from 1.60 to 2.07 times normal battery life. I use the default Balanced settings and forget about it.
Works great!!
Ok so here are the tools I use
An automatic radio activation tool that will turn radios/wifi /gps OFF when screen is off - Juice Defender Ultimate is my choice
A CPU management tool - I use AnTuTu CPU Master but i hear that SetCPU is also very nice
Better Battery Stats
I Have setup Juice Defender (JD) to turn off my radios/wifi/bluetooth when the screen is off, to manage auto-synch, manage screen brightness but i DO NOT use it to manage CPU. I have also not setup any special App settings in JD, it just manages power consuming hardware (other than cpu)
My CPU tool (whichever you use) is used to setup profiles based on situations. Screen off, screen on, in call, etc.
There is never any reason for your CPU to be over 700mhz unless you are interacting with your phone. When you are on the phone 920 is all you will ever need. You can set the max above 1200 if you want or need the extra power but just remember that the cpu is always going to be a battery drain.
The #1 thing to remember is that if your not using your phone actively, it should be doing as close to nothing as possible.
Now I would love to hear from others on experiences and strategies or even critiques of my method. I know many will say that JD is not needed, bit i like not having to think about it.
I stick with Trickster Mod app for CPU/kernel settings. It's amazing. Also I never use Juice defender I use Tasker :thumbup:
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aperseghin said:
Ok so here are the tools I use
An automatic radio activation tool that will turn radios/wifi /gps OFF when screen is off - Juice Defender Ultimate is my choice
A CPU management tool - I use AnTuTu CPU Master but i hear that SetCPU is also very nice
Better Battery Stats
I Have setup Juice Defender (JD) to turn off my radios/wifi/bluetooth when the screen is off, to manage auto-synch, manage screen brightness but i DO NOT use it to manage CPU. I have also not setup any special App settings in JD, it just manages power consuming hardware (other than cpu)
My CPU tool (whichever you use) is used to setup profiles based on situations. Screen off, screen on, in call, etc.
There is never any reason for your CPU to be over 700mhz unless you are interacting with your phone. When you are on the phone 920 is all you will ever need. You can set the max above 1200 if you want or need the extra power but just remember that the cpu is always going to be a battery drain.
The #1 thing to remember is that if your not using your phone actively, it should be doing as close to nothing as possible.
Now I would love to hear from others on experiences and strategies or even critiques of my method. I know many will say that JD is not needed, bit i like not having to think about it.
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Good idea starting this thread but I feel that you've opened up a can of worms
I've used JD before on my Dinc2 and I liked the fact that it can manage the radios but for me, I get a lot of emails and I like something on so I stopped using it. I did try some other apps like that but JD was my favorite by far!
Check out TricksterMOD from the app store it blows setcpu out of the water! It let's you do so much more and since I've found that I can't go back to anything else.
I usually don't undervolt, I feel like the kernel developers so a good job with their frequencies so I leave that alone lol but I have been recently checking out the governor settings to try and optimize a few things, that's a tricky topic lol
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Um.. wow.. i wasted money on a few other apps apparently, trickstermod looks amazing..
Not sure if this is the forum for this but a good discussion none the less.
What ROM you guys running for best battery life? I seem to get the most from aosp based roms and not cm10 or aokp ones.
Im using XenonHD with Tinys kernel. I saw HORRIBLE battery life until i took action to tame it. now its much better
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Im using XenonHD with Tinys kernel. I saw HORRIBLE battery life until i took action to tame it. now its much better
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Mines close to stock on purpose but I don't mind people tuning it. What did you change that helped battery? There's bit much from a kernel perspective that will really help battery.
And this topic doesn't belong in development.
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i guess it belongs in general but the idea was to get all the tidbits that we need together in one app specifically for our phones. like "The CDMA Galaxy nexus Super Battery saver app that does it all without all the stuff you dont need"
Just flash lean kernel and turn off mobile data when you're not using it. No need for these crazy battery saving apps. I get ~7 - 9 hours a day, easily.
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I consistently get 14 to 18 hrs. I've been using the battery for about 2 weeks now and its awesome.
Rom of Choice: Jelly Belly
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Battery of choice: Anker 2200mAh
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Since radios are such a huge drain ...
I think my best move has been using an app called Profile. You can use it to turn off and on WIFI, Bluetooth and change the screen brightness at certain times on certain days. So at my usual time to go to work, WIFI gets shut off. At my usual time to get home, WIFI back on.
Also will change ringers, volumes and vibration on/off (always off uses battery).
24 hours no problem.
Costs a couple of bucks to get the time based control, but works for me.
Two tricks are using auto brightness and using WiFi whenever possible.
However, since I can't stand either of those options, using trickstermod to set max CPU speed while screen off, and setting color profile to morific typically helps my battery life.
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gchild320 said:
Two tricks are using auto brightness and using WiFi whenever possible.
However, since I can't stand either of those options, using trickstermod to set max CPU speed while screen off, and setting color profile to morific typically helps my battery life.
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CPU max is capped at 350 or 700 already there's no need to change it.
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Yah why would you need to lower CPU on sleep when we have deep idle?
I use CM10 nightlies, and the latest dev snapshots of Imo's leankernel. Min frequency 230mhz, max 1350mhz, interactivex governor with his tweaks and sio i/o scheduler.
I get ~24 hours battery with decent screen-on time, from just texting, about 20 minutes on the phone, and websurfing on full wifi service wherever I go (stays connected even when sleeping, and we have cross-campus wifi here). 3g service only, no LTE here yet. Bluetooth off. NO apps--many of the market "powersaving" apps will just wake the phone from sleep and cycle a few times to write to the log file (any app that keeps track of power consumption, and half of them don't even use the system tools). GPS is on, but it's never initialized more than 1-2x a day for random needs.
Getting a lightweight kernel is a good choice for battery life saving, and getting one that actually keeps up with android mainline is pretty key.
I think it's most helpful to post your total 'screen on' time and time since charge. If someone tells me they get 14 hours, that means nothing. I can get a full day 16 hours with roughly 2 hours of screen on time, without limiting my phone via turning off mobile data, syncing, or using a juice defender app that disables a lot of things.
That, to me, is not very good at all. I saw that the Nexus 4 is getting about 4.5 hours of screen on time with a full day of being on with everything syncing, etc being on. 4.5 is actually pretty bad also compared to other devices these days.
No matter what I try I usually only get about 2.5 hours of screen on time. I under clock to a max of 750 screen off at 280 undervolted to in each setting.
I've tried many many kernels with many roms
Screen on time doesnt mean much me to me because i use my phone for personal and business use, which means I get quite a few calls.
I use the stock 4.1.1 image, rooted with SuperSu and debloated a bit. Also use Faux kernel 23m-sr and his control app.
I roughly get about 2.5 hours screen on time with light calls and about 1.5 with heavy calls - my off charger time is pretty good though as it easily gets me thru the day. I bought another OEM standard battery and just keep one fully charged at all times so I can swap. Works well for me.
I also keep 4g on - why not when you can swap batteries.
does leaving gps on all the time if you're not running any location apps bother the battery at all?
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does leaving gps on all the time if you're not running any location apps bother the battery at all?
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No only when you use something requiring device GPS does it turn on. Most background stuff like Google Now uses tower fix so it's OK to leave it on.
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Battery life is a pretty unique experience for everyone. Apps, ROM, kernel, signal, Wi-Fi time, brightness, etc. Won't say these type of threads are totally pointless but they are pretty close to it. Always good to share pointers on how to save a few minutes of juice though. Ultimately its a big screen and turning it off now and then is the best way to save but personally I leave all my services on because that's why I bought this thing and I keep a charger everywhere I go.