Basically, I'm thinking about trading in my Nexus for an HTC Rezound. Don't get me wrong: I freaking love this phone, and have been dying to get it for months. There's nothing wrong with it.
My issue is that I'm a flash-o-holic. Now that the Rezound has an unlocked boot loader, I'm worried that it will have more ROM options.
With the Rezound, I'll eventually be able to run ISC. it can run sense roms. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like with the Rezound I'd be able to flash everything I could with my Nexus PLUS all of the 2.3 and Sense roms, right? and that means more options.
So, I need some clarification:
Can the Nexus run anything other than 4.0 based roms? (like 2.3 based ones)
Can the Nexus potentially run a Sense rom?
With the bigger development community of the Nexus, am I better of staying where I am?
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I don't think the GNex will have developers that will make ROMs based on older versions of Android... I mean why would they? I feel like the dev community of the Galaxy Nexus will be bigger than the Rezound's. This is a Nexus device and Google has amazing support for their Nexus phones. I doubt the Nexus will have a Sense ROM...
There are plenty of ROMs for the Galaxy Nexus right now... it's just that not all of them are on XDA. Check out Rootzwiki for more ROMs! I recommend axi0m 2.1.
Check out my post here:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/12696-ro...rnel-12262011/page__view__findpost__p__334056
Stick with what you have, this is the best phone for flashing roms. This will have the best support considering the support it has already.
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I had an Incredible before, and was in love with it. GREAT dev community and tons of ROMs and development even to this day. I liked CM7 and MIUI, but I put a huge value on always being able to come back to Sense. One of my concerns with the Rezound is that the development and the development community will die after a couple months and the next bigger, brighter HTC phone comes out.
There's been enough of the Rezound vs Nexus threads and I'm sorry, so I want the focus in this thread to be only on the differences in the development, development communities, and which will have a bigger variety of ROMs...
I honestly feel like the Galaxy Nexus will have more developers because it's a Google phone. It's practically made for developers so I say just stick with this phone. It has the direct support from Google and there is no middle man between software and hardware.
tifford said:
I had an Incredible before, and was in love with it. GREAT dev community and tons of ROMs and development even to this day. I liked CM7 and MIUI, but I put a huge value on always being able to come back to Sense. One of my concerns with the Rezound is that the development and the development community will die after a couple months and the next bigger, brighter HTC phone comes out.
There's been enough of the Rezound vs Nexus threads and I'm sorry. I want the focus if thus thread to be only on the differences in the development, development communities, and which will have a bigger variety of ROMs...
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Someone is trying to port touchwiz to the Nexus for God knows why.. I doubt we will ever have sense but I don't see the reasoning you have offered, OP. Saying that you always have sense to go back to to me sounds like you'll always be able to go back to stock sense if an ICS rom doesn't workout or something along those lines.. I know having sense means more options, but anything 2.3 will always be inferior to 4.0 in my eyes.
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Not sure why you'd strive to flash 2.3 Sense ROMs on any phone if something newer was available.
You do realize that once HTC starts releasing Sense ICS ROMs, the devs will stop working on the 2.3 ROMs, right?
Just remember, development for a Nexus will always be solid.
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There are plenty of ROMs for the Galaxy Nexus right now... it's just that not all of them are on XDA. Check out Rootzwiki for more ROMs! I recommend axi0m 2.1.
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I'm on axi0m 2.1 right now... its awesome with tons of options.
there are tons of roms out there for the nexus already, but they're all basically the same. Yes, AOSP vs CM9 has its differences, but they're different hues of the same color. I want colors, dammit! and I'm sure it'll get there...
I guess I'm just worried that it'll always be ICS with some slight twists, instead of 2.3 AOSP vs cm7 vs miui vs sense vs ice, etc. I like the idea of having all of those options
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i guess I just got used to switching up roms every couple weeks or so with my incredible. I'd run a sense rom for a couple weeks, get bored with it, switch to cm7 for a couple weeks, switch to miui, etc.
I don't like the idea of finding one rom, and sticking with it forever, even if all others are "inferior." I like to mix it up.
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I believe Vicious is working on MIUI for the GNex.
even though the Rezound realistically is the only competition for the Nexus, there:s just the whole "S-OFF" issue. last i heard, they're still trying to acheive that thus no roms yet.
tifford said:
i guess I just got used to switching up roms every couple weeks or so with my incredible. I'd run a sense rom for a couple weeks, get bored with it, switch to cm7 for a couple weeks, switch to miui, etc.
I don't like the idea of finding one rom, and sticking with it forever, even if all others are "inferior." I like to mix it up.
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Remember that the Galaxy Nexus (specifically the VZW version) hasn't exactly been out long enough for there to be 100's of ROMs. Not to mention that it's the first and only ICS device right now.
ALL Recent HTC Phones now are unlockable courtsey of HTC themselves
Not exactly sure what S-Off is but all recent HTC phones are capabable of an unlockable bootloader thanks to HTC themselves. This includes the Rezound. HTCdev.com
http://www.htcdev.com
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/28/htc-makes-all-handsets-released-since-september-2011-unlockable/
http://androidandme.com/2011/12/news/htc-super-tool-unlocks-bootloader-roots-most-devices/
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Not exactly sure what S-Off is but all recent HTC phones are capabable of an unlockable bootloader thanks to HTC themselves. This includes the Rezound. HTCdev.com
http://www.htcdev.com
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/28/htc-makes-all-handsets-released-since-september-2011-unlockable/
http://androidandme.com/2011/12/news/htc-super-tool-unlocks-bootloader-roots-most-devices/
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They still need s off to be able to fully do everything, all that's doing right now is unlocking part of boot loader but from what I hear they still can't flash custom recoverys. Anyhow I love my G Nex and I came from a Rezound I don't even think about going back at all.
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If Sense means that much to you, maybe you should go with the Rezound (plus it has an amazing screen). Just remember that you won't have access to an optimal ICS build for a while. Sense is cool and all, but ICS is a huge step forward for the android OS.
Plus, the GN will be first in line for all software updates, which will keep its dev community on the bleeding edge. Also, as others have pointed out, dev support will be much stronger (and probably longer lasting) for the Galaxy Nexus.
The Nexus is a dev device... doesn't get more from friendly than this.
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Going from ICS 4.x back to anything 2.3.x is like wiping before you poop....pointless!
Nexus has several advantages.
1) bigger screen, hopefully devs will be able to utilize the full screen for all apps
2) virtual keys
therefore even with both having ICS, it won't be exactly the same. (rest of the hardware is debatable as both have pluses and minus - like screen tech/sd card/etc)
Besides, nexus is likely far more popular so the number of devs attracted to this device will likely be much higher.
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Not exactly sure what S-Off is but all recent HTC phones are capabable of an unlockable bootloader thanks to HTC themselves. This includes the Rezound. HTCdev.com
http://www.htcdev.com
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/28/htc-makes-all-handsets-released-since-september-2011-unlockable/
http://androidandme.com/2011/12/news/htc-super-tool-unlocks-bootloader-roots-most-devices/
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sure the manufacturer offers the 'unlock' ability, but the carrier has the final say. both the rezound & the droid razr have the ability to be unlocked, but verizon wont let it happen. so with the rezound, since the devs cant get htc to permit the unlock(again, thank you verizon) they've just been attempting a work around now since the phone's been out and to this day are still struggling with it. so no roms/kernals/etc yet.. just a b.s. "temp root".
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sure the manufacturer offers the 'unlock' ability, but the carrier has the final say. both the rezound & the droid razr have the ability to be unlocked, but verizon wont let it happen. so with the rezound, since the devs cant get htc to permit the unlock(again, thank you verizon) they've just been attempting a work around now since the phone's been out and to this day are still struggling with it. so no roms/kernals/etc yet.. just a b.s. "temp root".
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Dude.. the Rezound's bootloader has been unlocked, even on Verizon. They're S-ON but with an unlocked bootloader.
I currently have a HTC Incredible 2, and my contract is almost up, and so I was thinking of getting the Galaxy Nexus for Verizon.
Anyways have some questions about it.
1) Since the Verizon version is currently only running 4.0.2 and not the latest version, I was wondering if the unlocked version official 4.0.4 ROM will work on the Verizon one? If not would it be easy for a developer to just port the official ROM to it, so it will the Verizon Nexus will run exactly as it should(the unlocked Nexus) without bugs?
2) Does ICS have a T9 dialer built in? With my HTC Incredible 2 I can just dial someone I want by typing in the first letters of there names with the dialer.
3) Will we except to get a delay just like the Nexus S 4G had, for when we get Jellybean(when the next Nexus comes out). And will it run slow just like since Nexus S runs ICS pretty horribly right now.
1. i believe verizon does have 4.0.4 updates out, if not you can flash the official update manually.
2. yes it has T9 dialer included.
3. We should be the one of the first phones to get Jellybean.
So if it does have the 4.0.4 updates out, then why do people still complain that it doesn't?
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I currently have a HTC Incredible 2, and my contract is almost up, and so I was thinking of getting the Galaxy Nexus for Verizon.
Anyways have some questions about it.
1) Since the Verizon version is currently only running 4.0.2 and not the latest version, I was wondering if the unlocked version official 4.0.4 ROM will work on the Verizon one? If not would it be easy for a developer to just port the official ROM to it, so it will the Verizon Nexus will run exactly as it should(the unlocked Nexus) without bugs?
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No, ROMS are not compatible from CDMA to GSM versions and vice versa. It will severely mess up your device.
There are leaked 4.0.4 builds for the CDMA model, but again they're not official, just leaks. That's why people are complaining.
2) Does ICS have a T9 dialer built in? With my HTC Incredible 2 I can just dial someone I want by typing in the first letters of there names with the dialer.
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There are 3rd party replacement dialers. The stock dialer doesn't do this, and is a highly requested feature from Sense (which you have).
3) Will we except to get a delay just like the Nexus S 4G had, for when we get Jellybean(when the next Nexus comes out). And will it run slow just like since Nexus S runs ICS pretty horribly right now.
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Well the current situation shows that the CDMA model will get updates a bit slower than the GSM model. This is just going to happen since Verizon has to do their own testing and add their own network stack to what Google approves and moves out. It won't be a HUGE delay, but it'll be there. Think of it this way: Google isn't going to hold back a GSM update if the CDMA one isn't ready to go. When one's done, they'll release it.
Now remember, CDMA and GSM models don't need the same fixes/changes. As we noted above, the ROMs are not compatible. They are different devices when it comes to network connections (obviously). Fixes for one are not fixes for the other. Just because one gets 4.0.4 doesn't mean the other will. It may get 4.0.5 or .6, then GSM will get 4.1 and CDMA will get 4.1.1, etc...
As far as Jellybean goes, who knows? No one knows what the requirements will be or how long it'll take to get onto the GNex. It'll be slower, no doubt, but one of the reasons ICS is "slow" on the Nexus S is that Gingerbread to ICS was a HUGE jump. We don't know how big that jump will be to Jellybean.
About the leaks would you say they run just as well as the official 4.0.4 that is out on the unlocked Galaxy Nexus phones?
jakob95 said:
About the leaks would you say they run just as well as the official 4.0.4 that is out on the unlocked Galaxy Nexus phones?
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I dunno I don't have a Verizon device (so glad for many reasons) so you'd have to ask them. It is a leak and not official, and it was leaked quite a bit ago, so its far from prime time ready.
Some other stuff I wanted to ask are the 4.0.4 ROMs for this device stable just like the official ROM is? Like AOKP or CyanongeMod 9 will they run stable on the Verizon Galaxy Nexus so we can get 4.0.4?
jakob95 said:
Some other stuff I wanted to ask are the 4.0.4 ROMs for this device stable just like the official ROM is? Like AOKP or CyanongeMod 9 will they run stable on the Verizon Galaxy Nexus so we can get 4.0.4?
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It will never be as stable as stock 4.0.4 when it OTAs. As I said they're integrating a leaked build and also commits from the GSM 4.0.4 update. Its a Frankenstein type of deal. There will undoubtedly be bugs.
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martonikaj said:
It will never be as stable as stock 4.0.4 when it OTAs. As I said they're integrating a leaked build and also commits from the GSM 4.0.4 update. Its a Frankenstein type of deal. There will undoubtedly be bugs.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus i9250
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Well the main reason I want a Galaxy Nexus for is to not even put in custom ROMS. Cause sorry to say but lots of times they are just really buggy and non stable compared to the OTA updates. They could be better such as having a newer version of Android in it but also buggy as well. I just want something that works, and that's why I decided to get the Nexus.
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Well the main reason I want a Galaxy Nexus for is to not even put in custom ROMS. Cause sorry to say but lots of times they are just really buggy and non stable compared to the OTA updates. They could be better such as having a newer version of Android in it but also buggy as well. I just want something that works, and that's why I decided to get the Nexus.
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Yeah but custom roms on a nexus are a little different than custom roms on other devices cause the full code is available. Not true with other devices. Nothing is hidden so no hacks are needed to get things to work. Custom roms can be coded as good as stock rom if the devs want.
Did some research and found out that Verizon controls the Galaxy Nexus updates and not Google. But why does Apple control the Verizon's iPhone updates, and not Verizon? Couldn't Google do the same?
Because Verizon bends over for Apple.
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Did some research and found out that Verizon controls the Galaxy Nexus updates and not Google. But why does Apple control the Verizon's iPhone updates, and not Verizon? Couldn't Google do the same?
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You would think so. But Google just bent over to get Verizon to play ball. Corp bull**** at its finest. Apple just has the balls to say my way or go screw yourself. Sigh...
Would you say that it would be a smart choice to get the Galaxy Nexus in August? Because I am either going to get that phone, or maybe I should wait to see what the iPhone 5 is?
After starting my android life with an HTC Evo 4G, I moved to the Evo 3D. But now I have the luxury of having the amazing Samsung Galaxy S3, so my new home will be here in the Sprint S3 forums.
Now I have a request: can someone suggest me some good, but STABLE, custom ROMs for my S3?
A side note: My S3 is FLASHED to MetroPCS, so I'm a little wary of updates and flashing ROMs because I don't want to loose my flash settings. Can someone confirm that flashing ROMs will leave my flash settings intact?
Thanks for all your help, and I hope to have a nice stay here in the S3 family!
Sent from my SprintroPCS Samsung Galaxy S3.
Hello all,
I just bought a Galaxy Note II N7105, and i need to ask the xda communiti one very important for me question:
I love flashing ROMs and experimenting with my device, but sadly when i came back home with my new toy, i realised that the 4G version of the device has A LOT less support from the xda developers, meaning ALOT less ROMs, MODs and so on.
I have the option to change my device for an N7100 one, so should I change it? Is really the support that much less ?
ianchef said:
Hello all,
I just bought a Galaxy Note II N7105, and i need to ask the xda communiti one very important for me question:
I love flashing ROMs and experimenting with my device, but sadly when i came back home with my new toy, i realised that the 4G version of the device has A LOT less support from the xda developers, meaning ALOT less ROMs, MODs and so on.
I have the option to change my device for an N7100 one, so should I change it? Is really the support that much less ?
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I recently upgraded from the Note 1 and was just as disappointed when I got to the forums especially as I was looking forward to using Indie's Omega Rom again since my GSG2 days. The 4G version definitely has a lot less support, but the silver lining is that a lot of the T-Mobile and AT&T roms are compatible with the N7105, you just have to make sure you keep you have the right modem for your carrier.
I think there's a thread on here somewhere that lists some of the compatible roms that others have tested, you might have to google it.
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Hey all,
Before this phone I had a Note 4, but through an unfortunate series of events I was rendered phoneless and the Ace IIx is all I can afford right now, so here I am. Anyway, the reason I bring up my prior Note 4 ownership is because on that phone there were a bunch of variants as well, but it was possible to flash roms between some of the variants through flashing a compatible kernel as well, or in more difficult cases a data fix or things of that sort.
Anyway, is anything like that doable here as well? Or are my dreams of flashing PA on my AceIIx fruitless? If that's the case, I'm limited strictly to a few different cm 10/11 builds, beanstalk, omni 4.4 and pacrom 4.2 right? Or are there some more that I've somehow missed?
I had heard there was at the very least also slimkat ported over, but I can't find it anywhere and this gives me hope I've missed something very fundamental.
Any shred of help with any of these questions would be greatly appreciated, thank you in advance!