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Can't connect to Ford Bluetooth handsfree device

Hello,
in a few weeks I'll get my new Ford car - equipped with the built-in bluetooth handsfree device. I tried to connect my MDA 3 to this device at several Ford dealers but didn't get any connection.
The MDA finds a "Ford Audio" but can't establish a connection.
Who has any ideas ?
Thanks in advance - Dieter

I have the same problem with a new mondeo...
Everything works with an old nokia 6630 (with a small nokia application I can browse the phonebook as well) but I'm not able to pair the bluetooth ford audio system with my HTC TyTN...
Any ideas?

try using a newer bluetooth stack.

What is a bluetooth 'stack' ?
And how do I change to a newer one?

nfumbruce said:
And how do I change to a newer one?
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As far as I know, you'll need to update the Radio portion of your device's ROM based software (the basic software that drives the device).
The best bet in your case I believe would be to just grab a new complete update for your device by searching the wiki for downloads for your device. Download a newer official ROM, install it and try again.
You will lose all saved data on the device though so back it up>
Wiki is here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/

Did upgrading the bluetooth stack fix this connectivity issue to Ford Audio Bluetooth Handsfree devices?

Same problem. I've tried to upgrade bluetooth stack: my BA finds "Ford Audio" but doesn't connect. Please give us some help

bicasper said:
Same problem. I've tried to upgrade bluetooth stack: my BA finds "Ford Audio" but doesn't connect. Please give us some help
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after correct pairing (code 0000), press "Phone" on the caraudio system and then "Menu". After that press left or right joypad on the caraudio to set the "Active Phone". It will search and your phone will be correctly paired.
The last paired phone will be automatically active when you turn on the caraudio system next time.
In some cases will also help to install on the device the JETware application... just try.

Problem Solved!
Thank you dark horse, followed your advice and it worked just fine. I can now connect via bluetooh in my ford.

Can't connect to new Ford Fiesta
Hello to everyone.
I just bought my new Ford Fiesta and I try to connect it with my Sony ARC S but I can't procced with the opperation. I search for new devise on sony, I find the Ford Audio and ask to connect, the Fiesta get it and provide me with the 4 digit code but, my sony doesn't open any keybord in order to write this code to connect so the after few seconds the car regect the connections.
My phone is ARC S LT18i and I had upgrade it to Android 4.0.3
Please any advice will be helpful,
Thanks in advance.

omg nice on there!!!

Thank you dark horse, i had the same problem!!

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The best bet in your case I believe would be to just grab a new complete update for your device by searching the wiki for downloads for your device. Download a newer official ROM, install it and try again.

Does Desire have rSAP (VW/Audi/Skoda) Nav

Hi all,
Anyone can confirm that Desire has a rSAP (remote Sim access)?
Some people are saying it doesn't work with their Nav, some say it is working.
Any one got it hooked up to their Vw/Audi/Skoda RNS Nav?
Looking to change from my TouchHD.
Cheers,

Android does not support the SAP/rSAP protocol. It may be that some people have it working on cars that use the HFP or HSP profiles.

Thanks mate, not good at all!!!

A little up now the phone's live...
Does it support rsap? is there any way to push contacts etc...?
I got an audi with a built in Bluetooth system, pairing ok, phone etc ok, but no possibilities with my desire to have rsap working

swissman said:
A little up now the phone's live...
Does it support rsap? is there any way to push contacts etc...?
I got an audi with a built in Bluetooth system, pairing ok, phone etc ok, but no possibilities with my desire to have rsap working
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I also have the Audi built in BT system, and it works fine except that from what I've read about rSAP, I don't think it's working in that mode with the Audi.
The only difference (problem) I've been facing with my HTC phones vs. Nokia e71 is that the phone ring tone is not pushed to the car speakers when receiving a call. I was hoping it would work with the Desire as the default Audi BT ringtone is stupidly annoying.
Sorry off topic again, but I was wondering, are Bluetooth profiles generally defined by hardware or software? Or some by this, some by that?

Maybe you could check if it has another setting to retrieve data from the phone.
From what i know the new modules used in audi/vw/skoda are Novero modules (part of the nokia business) which only supports rsap.
The older modules are from harman/Becker and do support al the possible connectiontypes.
You can check which type you have under the passengers frontseat, the modules are build in under the seat, not in the radio.
If you have a Novero, tough luck. But you can always check on the local car junkyard if you can find an old car which does have a harman/becker, and build that one in

salahag said:
I also have the Audi built in BT system, and it works fine except that from what I've read about rSAP, I don't think it's working in that mode with the Audi.
The only difference (problem) I've been facing with my HTC phones vs. Nokia e71 is that the phone ring tone is not pushed to the car speakers when receiving a call. I was hoping it would work with the Desire as the default Audi BT ringtone is stupidly annoying.
Sorry off topic again, but I was wondering, are Bluetooth profiles generally defined by hardware or software? Or some by this, some by that?
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Just wanted to add to eliminate any confusion. I can dial contacts saved on the phone and directly search for them on the car screen. But what I understood is that rSAP profile connects to the SIM card and fully replaces the phone, where it goes into some kind of sleep mode!

salahag said:
Just wanted to add to eliminate any confusion. I can dial contacts saved on the phone and directly search for them on the car screen. But what I understood is that rSAP profile connects to the SIM card and fully replaces the phone, where it goes into some kind of sleep mode!
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Exactly... you can even read/send sms directly through the display and through your car multimedia system.

Ford
Just a little extra info, Desire now works with the Ford Convers+ system but ONLY on Android 2.1 Update1 (the stock Android 2.1 didn't work).
Just thought that may be why there's mixed reports of working/not working?

Tirinoarim said:
Just a little extra info, Desire now works with the Ford Convers+ system but ONLY on Android 2.1 Update1 (the stock Android 2.1 didn't work).
Just thought that may be why there's mixed reports of working/not working?
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I got the stock Android and it's showing Android 2.1 update 1.... but not working ;-)

Hmm - well I'm trying to use my HTC Desire with a 2010 Audi A3 with BT and not having any luck so far. Although it paired and transferred the phonebook (took quite a few minutes with a couple of hundred contacts), it's now being really flaky and sometimes just refusing to connect at all. I tried un-pairing/re-pairing but to no avail. It just seems to work sometimes for a bit then stop again. By comparison pairing my Desire with a Jabra BT headset worked fine.
Anyone else having these problems? Anyone know of any updates for the Audi software? (if not I suppose I'll just need to wait for Froyo and hope that it fixes things )

my desire works well with my VW golf.
phone book, calls (dialing and receiving) and status dispay working. not working is SMS

Hey Folks,
there is room for some BT "education", because most people don't know the difference between rSAP and Handsfree.
Handsfree is working like a BT headset - most disadvantage - you are using the phoneunit of your mobile.
rSAP is using BT protocoll to get only the SIM card of your mobile and work together with the phoneunit of your car.
For Audi you can see on which mode your are conntected at the MMI-Display => "SIM card icon" stands for rSAP while "Mobilephone icon" represents handsfree mode.

no rSAP
I could be wrong, but I was of the impression that Nokia had patented the RSAP protocol, so you're not going to see it on non-Nokia phones. Irritating, really. Some car users have retrofitted their handsfree kits with a module that uses handsfree profile with some success but it's not going to use the car antennae etc in this case.

rSAP is a "STANDARD" for bluetooth protocoll in general.
Nokia was one of the first, thatswhy the Nokia unit has some "problems" in early releases....

Well I picked up my Skoda Superb last week, dealer told me they were fitting the new GSM 3 units that had just recently changed, not that it meant much to me.
Anyways it did work fine first couple days then started playing up with not connecting, I went into the options because I found it was connecting to media, but not phone, so I disabled the media option on the phone for the bluetooth connections and its been fine ever since.
Desire running Modaco R4, R5 & R6 now also ok.
Also saw a file posted on there that is meant to fix the iffy bluetooth connection problems, its been confirmed as working but I've not tried it as I've not had any more problems with it.
Will take a look though see if its connecting with a phone or sim card, I had noticed the signal always seemed really good even if the phone was berried in the car somewhere so maybe the rSAP explains it.

Tinyk said:
Also saw a file posted on there that is meant to fix the iffy bluetooth connection problems, its been confirmed as working but I've not tried it as I've not had any more problems with it.
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Do you have a link to the thread that includes this file by any chance?

Do not mix up android 2.1 and 2.2.
AFAIK the modaco roms are froyo which should have a better bluetooth stack than eclair.

Well some good news! The FroYo/2.2 update on the Desire seemed to do the trick for me and I now seem to be able to get a stable BT connection with my A3. Phonebook transfer working fine too and it's reacquiring the connection when getting back into the car.

Any hope for Android 2.1?
Alanjrobertson: did you say you got your HTC Desire Android v2.1 phone working with your Audi, albeit a bit flaky? I cant get my HTC Desire Android v2.1 phone working with my VW EOS working at all.
What was the process you followed? The process I went through was to turn on phone’s bluetooth and make my phone discoverable. I then initiated a search from the car. It found my phone and displayed the correct name. However, when I chose the “connect” option on the car, it gave the error message: "mobile telephone phone is not compatible" on the car’s MFD.
Is this what you did? Is there a better way of connecting?
The car’s entertainment system is RNS510. I’m not sure if this is associated with Bluetooth or not.
My previous phone (Nokia 5800) worked OK, but my Desire doesn’t.
I am hoping that the Android v2.2 upgrade will fix my problems, but I’m still waiting for the update from Orange. It could take a while by the sounds of things.
I contacted HTC and they told me “The HTC Desire does not have the remote sim access profile. we currently have no plans to update the Bluetooth profiles on the device.” This makes me worried that when I eventually do get the Android v2.2 upgrade it will not work.
Any ideas other than waiting for the Android v2.2 upgrade?

help with bluetooth and car kit. please!!!

hey guys after all these years I'm finally back to Android.
I have the HTC One m8 with Verizon and so far I really like it. the only problem is I can't get the Bluetooth to work with my car. Its a 11 Mazda 3, what happens is when it ask for the password for the pairing I enter it (all zeros) after I push okay the car lose the connection and the phone says paired but my car dosent ask for a devise name. I hear there's a problem with this version of Android and Bluetooth into cars. is there like an app i can download or something I can do please someone help. I don't wanna go back to my iPhone

iNFiNiTY125 said:
hey guys after all these years I'm finally back to Android.
I have the HTC One m8 with Verizon and so far I really like it. the only problem is I can't get the Bluetooth to work with my car. Its a 11 Mazda 3, what happens is when it ask for the password for the pairing I enter it (all zeros) after I push okay the car lose the connection and the phone says paired but my car dosent ask for a devise name. I hear there's a problem with this version of Android and Bluetooth into cars. is there like an app i can download or something I can do please somt wanna go back to my iPhone
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I don't have a Mazda, but have the Verizon M8 and have no issues pairing my phone for both calls and audio, regardless of whatever ROM I've tried. Your car is three years old, so I suspect the problem is there. I would take it into Mazda and see if there is a software update for their entertainment/bluetooth. Also, if you've paired up your phone to anything else previously (headphones, speaker, etc.) you might want to delete those pairings before trying to set it up again. If none of those things work, then you might be out of luck unless you want to upgrade your car stereo. There are many instances where certain devices/cars just don't work well together, but the M8 has the latest bluetooth release available. Good luck.

Thanks for the support and for helping find the Solution!
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I don't have a Mazda, but have the Verizon M8 and have no issues pairing my phone for both calls and audio, regardless of whatever ROM I've tried. Your car is three years old, so I suspect the problem is there. I would take it into Mazda and see if there is a software update for their entertainment/bluetooth. Also, if you've paired up your phone to anything else previously (headphones, speaker, etc.) you might want to delete those pairings before trying to set it up again. If none of those things work, then you might be out of luck unless you want to upgrade your car stereo. There are many instances where certain devices/cars just don't work well together, but the M8 has the latest bluetooth release available. Good luck.
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Think you for your fast response, so I called up my dealership and they said they don't have any updates for my stereo.
But I did find a solution YAY!
1. keep one of the failed pairs in your phone
2. download "Bluetooth Connect and Play"
3. Here are the settings you want:
Bluetooth Receiver is [ON]
when this bluetooth device connects...
[*] Mazda
4. Click the 3 dots in the corner and click "Tweaks"
5. Heres what you want:
When trigger player
(*) Start player on basic bluetooth connect only
Seconds to wait 0
everything else unchecked
6. Make sure all other connections are deleted from your car and then set the car to pair while the code 0000 is on the screen go to your bluetooth settings and delete "Mazda" then click "Mazda" when it comes up enter 0000 and then bluetooth connect and play will come up and music will start playing
7. music will stop and it will ask you to name the device.. cool
8. enjoy wireless music

Car Handsfree and Bluetooth Issue

Hello ...
I currently have an HTC One M8 running the TeamVenom rom 4.1.0. When I pair my phone to my car's Bluetooth handsfree, it works as expected. But when I disconnect or turn off the engine, reconnect or restart the car, the pairing is lost. My phone will keep asking for the pair security code. When I enter it, I get an error saying that it's been declined (or something similar). The only way to fix it is to delete the pairing on the phone and the car, re-setup the pair and it works again. Before I Updated to 4.1.0, my phone would connect to the car automatically without issue. Also, when setting a new pair, I get a slew of message on my phone (50+), saying that a new Bluetooth device has been added. Most of the time, it's the MAC address of the car. The rest are MAC address I don't recognize.
Has anyone else had this problem or know how to fix it? Or know how to fix it? Re-adding it every time I get into the car is a huge pain in the arse.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.

See if you car stereo has a way to "re-initialize" or restore to defaults; then pair the phone again from scratch. I had a similar (although not identical) sounding problem with my 2012 Subaru Impreza (I understand their factory head units are made by Kenwood) where I would have to manually reconnect (it was paired, but would not automatically connect on it own) every time I got into the car and started it. Re-initializing the system, then pairing it fresh again solves this issue for me. I need to do this every time I flash a new ROM; on this phone and on my old One X EVITA.
Might not help your situation, but its worth a try.

I believe I remember seeing that option in the settings. I'll give that a try and report back. Thanks. =)

Hi redpoint73.
I was able to get my phone to pair permanently with my car. I wasn't able to locate the factory reset for the radio. I phone my local Honda dealer and they suggested to pair the phone/car via the phone instead of going through the car, which worked. I appreciate your help. Thanks.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using XDA Free mobile app

I am having the exact same issue. i am on ARHD 34.6 ROM and everytime i am required to repair my bluetooth, it just doesn't reconnect automaticlaly after my engine dies.
I also have this issue with ViperROM.
This issue doesn't show up when i am on GPE ROM so there is nothing wrong with my hardware.
This has been bugging me for a long time as i need my BT audio while i am driving. I never had a problem before the Lolipop with Sense update.
I am driving a Honda City 2014 (Malaysia). Does this only happen to Honda Cars? i have asked people inside ARHD thread but not many reported this same issue.

RedDevils88 said:
I am driving a Honda City 2014 (Malaysia). Does this only happen to Honda Cars? i have asked people inside ARHD thread but not many reported this same issue.
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I wouldn't assume that. There are lots of combinations of car stereos and phones that work a little differently from each other, with different hardware and software. The Bluetooth "standard" is not as uniform as you would hope. Therefore you end up with some combinations that simply don't play together well.
It partially may depend on who manufactures the head unit. Which is typically not the car company. For instance most Subaru stereo head units are made by Kenwood from what I've read. And the manufacturer may or may not be the same as the previous post depending on model, year, etc. And if you have a navigation head unit or some other "option" upgrade stereo, it might be a different make from the "base" stereo as well.
Did you try the fix mentioned in the post just above yours? Or the fix I suggested?

redpoint73 said:
I wouldn't assume that. There are lots of combinations of car stereos and phones that work a little differently from each other, with different hardware and software. The Bluetooth "standard" is not as uniform as you would hope. Therefore you end up with some combinations that simply don't play together well.
It partially may depend on who manufactures the head unit. Which is typically not the car company. For instance most Subaru stereo head units are made by Kenwood from what I've read. And the manufacturer may or may not be the same as the previous post depending on model, year, etc. And if you have a navigation head unit or some other "option" upgrade stereo, it might be a different make from the "base" stereo as well.
Did you try the fix mentioned in the post just above yours? Or the fix I suggested?
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no luck. i couldn't find my car's bluetooth through my phone.

Bluetooth car issue.

So, Bluetooth works well with all alter devices but does not recognise my car Bluetooth. I have not had any issues so far testing from all possible android phones to Nokia and iPhone. I have a 2010 C class. Any suggestions? The car says that no devices has been found when trying to pair. Thanks

Same exact problem here with an Audi A1. I contacted support, but they only suggested things I had already tried (like factory reset etc). I'm going to try and get a log to them at some point this week.
Are you on the latest OTA? That's when the problems started happening for me - it was working fine before that.

bladerara1 said:
So, Bluetooth works well with all alter devices but does not recognise my car Bluetooth. I have not had any issues so far testing from all possible android phones to Nokia and iPhone. I have a 2010 C class. Any suggestions? The car says that no devices has been found when trying to pair. Thanks
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Know issue supposed to be fixed next update.

HomerSp said:
Same exact problem here with an Audi A1. I contacted support, but they only suggested things I had already tried (like factory reset etc). I'm going to try and get a log to them at some point this week.
Are you on the latest OTA? That's when the problems started happening for me - it was working fine before that.
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Yes, latest update. Unfortunately support gave me "support" I have already tried and if you have a bit of knowledge of android you do not need some to tell you those things. We just have to wait until next update. Thanks

Have you tried turning off HD audio in the device settings?
When the device is connected, go to Bluetooth and select the cog next to the device. Uncheck HD audio.
This worked for me with my JVC Bluetooth car stereo.

kdogguk said:
Have you tried turning off HD audio in the device settings?
When the device is connected, go to Bluetooth and select the cog next to the device. Uncheck HD audio.
This worked for me with my JVC Bluetooth car stereo.
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For me to be ableto do that, I will need to be connected first. That a my problem.