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Switching from WinMo to Android (EVO) A few questions

Hello to all, I've had MANY WinMo phones (8125,8525,8925,Fuze,HD, and lastly HD2)
There are a few applications that I feel were awesome to have:
--> PIM (saves all your contacts and appointments)
--> and recently the XDA settings exporter/importer ( It saved all your setting basically)
These applications made it easier to re-set up the phone after you had flashed a new ROM, will these types of apps be available to help cross over from WinMo to Android? Especially when you flash a new ROM on the EVO
Also, do the apps save themselves to the memory card on the phone in-case your needs a hard-reset?

v6ttgnx said:
Hello to all, I've had MANY WinMo phones (8125,8525,8925,Fuze,HD, and lastly HD2)
There are a few applications that I feel were awesome to have:
--> PIM (saves all your contacts and appointments)
--> and recently the XDA settings exporter/importer ( It saved all your setting basically)
These applications made it easier to re-set up the phone after you had flashed a new ROM, will these types of apps be available to help cross over from WinMo to Android? Especially when you flash a new ROM on the EVO
Also, do the apps save themselves to the memory card on the phone in-case your needs a hard-reset?
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Well, there is an App for that ... (ducks...).. I use MyBackup Pro which does pretty much the same thing as PIM Backup on WinMo. It can backup content (Contacts, SMS etc) in the cloud and applications on the SD Card. It is not a free app, but worth the cost. There are other apps that do the same things - use the market to find them.
Also if you are gmail user, your appointments are managed in google calendar, so you do not need to back them up.
Hope this helps

All your contacts and calendar events are in the cloud. GMail and Google Calendar. You flash a new ROM and then sign-in in the new ROM using you google id, and you will 'magically' get all your contacts and events.
You don't need any apps for that.

yeah, dude. Move all your contacts and calendar entries to Google. If you haven't already, create a Gmail address. I can't tell you the last time I had to sync my phone to my computer using outlook. Everything is on a cloud now, so get a cloud. Flash a ROM, enter your Google Account user/pass, and BAM! Everything is back (save for apps, though depending on the ROM, that will restore, too).
Best part, Google Clouds are free!

i moved all my contacts and calendar events to google on my winmo phone by setting up the google sync through activesync.
here is the web site with the information:
http://www.google.com/sync/windowsmobile.html

Anyone try Sprite Software's Spritemigrate?
http://www.spritesoftware.com/Great-for-You/Migrate/How-Does-It-Work-

what's this 'cloud' business? or is that just another way to say the google network?

v6ttgnx said:
what's this 'cloud' business? or is that just another way to say the google network?
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Cloud is the term for OTA/virtual storage. All your info is in the cloud, and you can download it to whatever device or PC from there. Saves having to sync to a computer here and a computer there.

sanjsrik said:
Anyone try Sprite Software's Spritemigrate?
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sanjsrik - did you try this?
Just got my Evo in the mail today, so will be migrating my WinMo6.5 (HTC TP)...
Also, anybody use the Sprite Andriod Backup utility?
I used to use Sprite utilities back when I had a Moto Q and it did what I needed.

root, and flash cyanogenmod 6 rom. then all your contacts, calander and apps will restore when you sign into google!
*gushes* boy how i love you google. how did i manage all those years with without you on winmo?
ps, check out titanium backup if you do not want to jump to a froyo rom. if you root it can backup practically everything and a ton still even if you do not root. there is a free and paid version. paid version is just faster and one click restores.
pss this shouldnt be in the development section, should be in q&a

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[Q] How to backup phone only contacts?

Hi - I have created many phone-only (not gmail) contacts with high res profile photos.
How can i backup these phone only contacts?
I tried mybackup pro but that does every contact, and fails on restore anyway.
I dont want to have to create all of them again when i do full wipes...

Have you tried stock option "export to sd"? I took a backup by using this feature which is native in Desire thanks to either android or Sense, not sure which one is correct though, anyway.. u don't need to use any 3rd party app for this. (i have been using contact pics too, all of them restored after hard reset)
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I'll give it a go - thanks!
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There must be an option to add them to gmail account, I always create GMail/Some other MS Exchange contacts, keeps my life easy.

Well if you want to keep the mentioned hig res contact pics then the solution mentioned above is not very usable, as you will just get your contacts on a list, which the phone can import again.
If you dont need to keep those pics, just make the backup from the contacts app, and import the file to your google account through a browser. Then sync them back to your phone. And just create all future contacts as google contacts.

Migrating from Desire to Desire HD - advice & suggestions pls.

Hi all. I'm considering getting a Desire HD in the new year. But before I make the final decision I'd like to find out what would be involved in migrating my apps & data etc from my current Desire.
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my HTC Desire

I suppose it all depends on if the HD has been rooted by then and if you could use Titanium Backup?
You could maybe use Appbrain to make a list of your apps installed on your Desire and then login to Appbrain on the HD and install the apps from there?
Your phone numbers and email addresses should be saved in your Gmail account, and will be imported when you set up the device.

No plans to root any of my phones at present
StuMcBill said:
I suppose it all depends on if the HD has been rooted by then and if you could use Titanium Backup?
You could maybe use Appbrain to make a list of your apps installed on your Desire and then login to Appbrain on the HD and install the apps from there?
Your phone numbers and email addresses should be saved in your Gmail account, and will be imported when you set up the device.
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Thanks StuMcBill perhaps I should have added I don't intend to root any phone that I have or intend to purchase in the near future.
I was under the impression that my app purchases/installs were stored somewhere linked to my Google account. With this in mind if I had another phone with the same Google account, when I logged in to the Marketplace my phone would display my apps albeit not installed yet.
I can see why that might not work though.
Do I really need to root one or both phones and then buy/install and use a 3rd party app to migrate to a new phone...?

Your app purchases are recorded so once you log in on the HD it will download them but it doesn't know your download history. As said contacts will be dragged on if u use Google contacts (best way of doing it if you ask me). Things like SMS/MMS can't be backed up/migrated without rooting AFAIK

SpartanGrey said:
Hi all. I'm considering getting a Desire HD in the new year. But before I make the final decision I'd like to find out what would be involved in migrating my apps & data etc from my current Desire.
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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I'd say wait for Q1 2011... and Tegra 2 porcessors from Nvidia.
The HTc desire HD is still in the same playground than the n1 ..htc desire and others...

Desire vs Desire HD
To add to the conversation: Desire HD is a Desire, but with a bigger screen. That's obvious, but the equation is purely between:
*bigger screen
*less quality screen
From what I've seen, it's not worth switching in terms of price and screen quality vs bigger screen.
Indeed, I'll await new candy with serious power (as if the Desire doesn't have power enough). And yes, bigger screens with superb quality

It's not *only* the screen difference.
HD has much larger internal memory
HD has (much probably) better CPU/GPU
etc.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3468&idPhone2=3077

Dolby Mobile and SRS sound enhancement on the Desire HD

EddyOS said:
Your app purchases are recorded so once you log in on the HD it will download them but it doesn't know your download history. As said contacts will be dragged on if u use Google contacts (best way of doing it if you ask me). Things like SMS/MMS can't be backed up/migrated without rooting AFAIK
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Thx EddyOS. I think that caps it. With regards to download history are you referring to browser or app marketplace?
I store my contacts in a couple of places but not primarily on Google - so that's less of an issue. BTW I back up my texts using an app called SMS Backup. Sends everything to a folder on gmail.
Sent from my HTC Desire

I delete SMSs as soon as they're read, and archive emails as soon as they're read...don't like clutter

[Q] New Arc user help! contacts and sms transfer :)

Hey! well I have a rooted X10 and a Nexus one and will be getting my Xperia Arc later!
I want to transfer all my locally stored contacts and sms from my nexus one to my new arc, I want to keep both phones as stock as possible, and hoping their are free solutions.
thank you in advance for the help!

Contacts should be pretty simple, make all contacts google contacts, then sync on the old phone, sync on the new phone, and you should have all your contacts.
Or: the arc has options to backup/restore contacts to SD card. Dunno if the nexus one has this option or not, but if it does then that seems like a simple way to do.
For SMSs i've been using MyBackup Pro for ages now, it does contacts, SMSs, bookmarks, calendar and loads more. It costs a few quid, (it's worth it IMO) but there's also a time limited (30 days) free version which is good enough if you only want to transfer over this once.
Alternatively there's loads of free apps out there that do SMS backup/restore (just search the market). Havent used any but this one gets good reviews.

Titanium backup not restoring contacts ..

Yes, I know there are several topics already on this topic, but I haven't seen a reasonable solution in any of them ..
I was running Virtuous Unity Sense 3.0 v1.27 ROM this evening when I created a complete backup using Titanium Backup Pro Root .... I have now flashed a fresh copy of Virtuous Unity Sense 3.0 v2.37 ROM, and Titanium Backup Pro Root .. I am trying to restore my contacts by restoring 'Data only' for [CONTACTS/CALLS... Storage], but this only restores the groups I had defined in contacts, and not the actual contacts themselves ... I have restarted the phone after doing such a restore, but still, no contacts ..
So how do I get Titanium backup pro to restore my contacts as well ?
Luckily, I did create a nandroid backup of my Desire Z before reflashing, so I can go back and backup my contacts through some other means, but I want to know how to get Titanium Backup to restore them ..
And please don't say that I can use Gmail sync ... I don't trust gmail contacts sync because of my past experiences ..
Thanks for your help !

Don't trust google sync?
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Titanium Backup isn't configured to backup and restore contacts. It knows that Google backs up all of your contacts to your gmail account.
Make sure your contacts are syncing and the ones you're adding aren't 'Phone Only' contacts, and then sync and flash the new ROM. When you put in your gmail address it will pull all of them back down.

Why not just use MyBackup or sync with Google?

Spastic909 said:
Don't trust google sync?
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martonikaj said:
Titanium Backup isn't configured to backup and restore contacts. It knows that Google backs up all of your contacts to your gmail account.
Make sure your contacts are syncing and the ones you're adding aren't 'Phone Only' contacts, and then sync and flash the new ROM. When you put in your gmail address it will pull all of them back down.
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blackknightavalon said:
Why not just use MyBackup or sync with Google?
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Guys, I appreciate your help, really, but I've already said in OP that I don't want to use Google Sync .... Let's just say I have had a really big mishap before by going down that road ..
Secondly, Titanium claims to back up *everything*, and people on this forum suggested similar to me, so I'm wondering why does nobody know how to backup/restore contacts using Titanium ...
So you guys are claiming that Titanium cannot backup/restore contacts ?? ... If this is the case, why does everyone like Titanium so much .. ? .. I mean contacts is such a basic thing ..

ahmadka said:
So you guys are claiming that Titanium cannot backup/restore contacts ?? ... If this is the case, why does everyone like Titanium so much .. ? .. I mean contacts is such a basic thing ..
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E-mail the developer about it.

^^ I was actually thinking that maybe I'm not doing something right, but I guess if you all are convinced that Titanium indeed cannot be used for backing up/restoring contacts that yeah maybe I'll email the developer
But is it a bug in Titanium, or is the feature itself (i.e backup/restore contacts) missing or something ?

ahmadka said:
Guys, I appreciate your help, really, but I've already said in OP that I don't want to use Google Sync .... Let's just say I have had a really big mishap before by going down that road ..
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So you use a smartphone... A Google Android smartphone... and you're worried about using google sync?? Not to start a flame war but if you're worried about this you need to go back to a dumbphone...
So you guys are claiming that Titanium cannot backup/restore contacts ?? ... If this is the case, why does everyone like Titanium so much .. ? .. I mean contacts is such a basic thing ..
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No it does not. Everyone likes it because it backs up apps+data, and System data and restores when you flash a new ROM. Its an amazing app that has saved me hours of time when flashing ROMs. It doesn't back up contacts because when you use Android, contacts are backed up 100% every time. Using a Gmail account to use the phone automatically leads to backed up data. Why make an app to back it up when your phone does it automatically?

^^ I also have no intention of starting some kind of a flame war, and I only made my statement bold so that new repliers can see that point .. Like I said, I am grateful for your help ..
The reason why I dont like Google Sync for contacts is because two times my contacts got wiped out from both server and my phone, leaving me contact-less .. in the end I had to resort to an older nandroid backup to recover a partial amount of my contacts back ... now whether that was my fault or google's is unknown to me .. what is known to me is that for one reason or another, Google Sync for contacts has never really worked for me .. But apartment from this, I use google technologies, and google sync for many other things, and I love the company and their ideas ... I just don't like google sync for contacts, thats all .. And I had mentioned this point clearly in OP, and its not like I HAVE to use that, right .. ?
Anyways, I thought that Titanium could also backup contacts .. even if Google Sync does backup your contacts, it doesn't hurt to have other methods too, right ? ... I mean if you search on market for backup apps, you'll find tons of them .. redundancy ... so why should contacts backups be exclusive to google only .. ?
Anyways, the reason why I had made this post was because Titanium DOES show a backup of contacts, which is not working for me ... so I thought that I'm not doing something right ... if Titanium didn't support it entirely, then it shouldn't even make the backup in the first place, right .. ? But it did, and its just not working .. So I thought maybe I was doing something wrong myself, and that the app (i.e. Titanium Backup Pro) is fine as literally millions of people use it ..
I'm sure its able to backup/restore contacts ... I'm sure I'm making some mistake somewhere ..
And like I said, I didn't make this thread to start a flame war .. I just made this thread to get an answer to my problem, that all ... hope you understand

I guess I scared everyone off ... oh well .. :/

Titanium backup is awesome. It has saved me hours - multiple times, but to the best of my knowledge it backs up only the contacts application/settings... if it does backup actual individual contacts I would never know; as everyone else has said, I personally use Google sync. I imagine most users are in this boat. Maybe it's time you and Google contacts sync makeup.
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I'm telling you, use MyBackup to handle the contacts.

Ditamae said:
Titanium backup is awesome. It has saved me hours - multiple times, but to the best of my knowledge it backs up only the contacts application/settings... if it does backup actual individual contacts I would never know; as everyone else has said, I personally use Google sync. I image most users are in this boat. Maybe it's time you and Google contacts sync makeup.
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I believe this to be true. It backs up the 'contacts' app and the settings for said app, but doesn't handle individual contacts info.

Why not use google contacts then export contacts to file,then you have your contacts in triplicate,phone,google and file?I must be luckly as I love the google sync function

TitaniumBackup does save contacts, you need to restore manually maybe Contact-backup-blabla (text is colored green in the list) and you need to reboot device.
But what is strange - for some reason data from my Gemini Calendar has not been restored I entered so many events... Damn...

there is backup for "Contacts and dialer" which i suppose is the app, and other entry for "CONTACTS/CALLS" which i think is the actual data. but since i have google sync up i'm not sure.
Also if you are so worried about google, how about that CarrierIQ that lies deep in the kernel and logs all your key-presses and sends em to everybody?

Cant help you with ti but i can recomend useing the option to download all contacts from google. That way you have a backup if they ever get wiped for some reason. Good luck
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love TB makes romming a breeze! Just use google contacts sorry you had a bad experiance but i have always used them or the carriers backup service in the past. Like the others said if you want that feature then get an app that supports is specifically or export from google lol.

Got a solution?
Hi everyone,
ahmadka, did you manage to restore your contacts?
Because I am facing the same problem. I switched from stock 2.2 to Cyanogenmod 7.1
I did a backup with TiBu. I backed up the ROM with ROM Manager.
I even backed up my SMS and Call logs using separate applications.
I thought TiBu would restore my phone contacts, but no.
There is an entry called contacts in TiBu, but it only restores a few contacts, not all.
I know the contacts are in the stock ROM, in a contacts database file, but how to retrieve them?
Do I have to flash the stock ROM, backup my contacts and reflash Cyanogen?
Isn't there a simpler way?
Thanks!

never had or heard of anyone loosing contacts stored through google, but whatever. i doubt there are many developers trying to make apps for android for something google does so well already.
titanium back isnt and i doubt will ever be a place to backup and restore contacts.
solutions, use google sync
use a pen and paper
download to simcard
download to sdcard
make your own app that does this
by an iphone, then go on apple forum and complain to them
ok just being an ass, sorry in one of those moods