The nexus phones always seem to be missing some crucial features that prevent them from destroying all the competition.
The nexus S had 480p recording which was a shocker since every high end phone was coming with HD video recording. It also never had a 32GB variant which didnt make sense since there was no card slot. Isnt google competing with apple?
Okay now the situation is a bit different with the galaxy nexus. It brings forward the sharpest SAMOLED screen to date but it just couldn't do without those shockers.
It turns out its the dimmest SAMOLED screen on any phone, hurrah samsung this is supposed to have the greatest display. It could still be said to have but the brightness seriously puts a dent on it.
5MP camera anyone? And yes MP dont matter that much but the overall quality of the nexus camera just doesnt compare with the S2 and iphone 4S.
720p resolution but weak GPU in a world of android where game optimization is poor? Ya that one puts a nail in the coffin for me.
And then where is the 32GB galaxy nexus? A phone with 1080p recording is only 16GB with no card slot? Really google?
When apple upgraded the GPU for the new ipad, it showed me they plan things with applications as the priority. Google on the other hand slapped a regular chipset for a 720p pentile screen that isnt actually HD but requires the GPU to output a million pixels.
Dont mind me guys I know you are all happy with your phones. I am a nexus S owner looking to upgrade but it seems like I will have to sacrifice software support for my next phone for better hardware and performance.
So then who is to blame? People say samsung and it makes sense in a way. Samsung doesnt own the nexus brand and if samsung makes this killer nexus phone that goes on to be a best seller, google could simply ask some other manufacturer to make the next nexus phone as they are not tied to anyone. So some other company benefits from a brand name that samsung helped establish as a top one.
On the other hand is google really that powerless to not be able to just tell samsung what they want in their phone?? It could very well be the case that google itself doesnt want it's nexus to utterly destroy everything else like the S2 did. Google doesnt want to discourage other manufacturers. There is one big thing which google miss out in all of this, it's nexus phone doesnt dominate the iphone feature wise the way it really should.
So your thoughts?
Gambler_3 said:
The nexus phones always seem to be missing some crucial features that prevent them from destroying all the competition.
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They're not *supposed* to be "destroying the competition". Nexus devices are meant to serve as an example for the direction they want Android to take. That's it.
The nexus S had 480p recording which was a shocker since every high end phone was coming with HD video recording. It also never had a 32GB variant which didnt make sense since there was no card slot. Isnt google competing with apple?
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No. Google is not competing with Apple. All they care about is that you (and iPhone users) continue to use google.com. Android serves that purpose. The Nexus serves as a guidepost for Android.
Okay now the situation is a bit different with the galaxy nexus. It brings forward the sharpest SAMOLED screen to date but it just couldn't do without those shockers.
It turns out its the dimmest SAMOLED screen on any phone, hurrah samsung this is supposed to have the greatest display. It could still be said to have but the brightness seriously puts a dent on it.
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Um. Ok.
5MP camera anyone? And yes MP dont matter that much but the overall quality of the nexus camera just doesnt compare with the S2 and iphone 4S.
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That's because Google wanted to emphasize a camera with instant photo capture. The Galaxy Nexus takes worse photos than my Nexus S 4g.
720p resolution but weak GPU in a world of android where game optimization is poor? Ya that one puts a nail in the coffin for me.
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Ok, then get another phone. Easy solution, no?
And then where is the 32GB galaxy nexus? A phone with 1080p recording is only 16GB with no card slot? Really google?
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The 1080p is only at 10mbps...
Either way, having limited space actually serves google's interests once again, as they want you to use Google+ sync for photos, and Google Music to stream music.
MTP so users don't have to bother mounting their phones' storage.
A modest GPU to show how much hardware acceleration can help the experience on even "older" chipsets.
You (and I) don't have to like it. Not at all. But them's the breaks. There are a LOT of other phones with better specs.
When apple upgraded the GPU for the new ipad, it showed me they plan things with applications as the priority. Google on the other hand slapped a regular chipset for a 720p pentile screen that isnt actually HD but requires the GPU to output a million pixels.
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Cool.
Dont mind me guys I know you are all happy with your phones. I am a nexus S owner looking to upgrade but it seems like I will have to sacrifice software support for my next phone for better hardware and performance.
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Yes, yes you will.
So then who is to blame? People say samsung and it makes sense in a way. Samsung doesnt own the nexus brand and if samsung makes this killer nexus phone that goes on to be a best seller, google could simply ask some other manufacturer to make the next nexus phone as they are not tied to anyone. So some other company benefits from a brand name that samsung helped establish as a top one.
On the other hand is google really that powerless to not be able to just tell samsung what they want in their phone?? It could very well be the case that google itself doesnt want it's nexus to utterly destroy everything else like the S2 did. Google doesnt want to discourage other manufacturers. There is one big thing which google miss out in all of this, it's nexus phone doesnt dominate the iphone feature wise the way it really should.
So your thoughts?
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You are to blame for owning a Nexus already, and yet not understanding the point of Google creating Nexus devices.
The Nexus S was no trend-setter either. It was a GalaxyS but without an SD card. Why on earth would Google do that with the Nexus S? Because, again, their goals for the device were to showcase their new Gingerbread theme (which SAMOLED screens do best) and push manufacturers into making more cloud-centric devices (ie no SD card). They wanted a larger screen, and a "sexy" looking device to show that Android can have style.
Google are in the business of making money. The Nexus phone is a consumer device for ORDINARY EVERY DAY PEOPLE. It is NOT a developer phone for geeks!
All this nonsense about Google not caring about the phone competing is absolute complete and utter uninformed nonsense from people who are more than happy to champion poor, over priced, old tech.
Google would do very well to stop advertising the Nexus is it's just for developer geeks, because the adverts i've seen for the Nexus are incredibly similar to the adverts I see for the iphone.
Google dropped the ball on this phone, plain and simple, and only fan boys will argue otherwise.
I will say one thing, thank god for AOKP! The latest AOKP Rom is amazing.
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Google are in the business of making money. The Nexus phone is a consumer device for ORDINARY EVERY DAY PEOPLE. It is NOT a developer phone for geeks!
All this nonsense about Google not caring about the phone competing is absolute complete and utter uninformed nonsense from people who are more than happy to champion poor, over priced, old tech.
Google would do very well to stop advertising the Nexus is it's just for developer geeks, because the adverts i've seen for the Nexus are incredibly similar to the adverts I see for the iphone.
Google dropped the ball on this phone, plain and simple, and only fan boys will argue otherwise.
I will say one thing, thank god for AOKP! The latest AOKP Rom is amazing.
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Right. Because Google is *REALLY* pushing it hard on all 4 carriers in the US, huh? Really trying to get that market-share for the Nexus.
They still refuse to sell the GSM Galaxy Nexus in the US, some 6 months after release. They've dropped "official" support for the CDMA binaries for the VZW Galaxy Nexus, and have shown no signs of that changing anytime soon.
But yeah, sure, Google really cares a lot if this phone competes with other Android phones. No reason why they should care, since an Android phone is an Android phone.
Riiiight, if you say so.
I said please dont mind what I am saying. I am not here to merely bash this phone but for a reasonable discussion.
I really dont mind the lack of SD card at all thats why I have a nexus S. I also dont really mind heaving inferior video recording, I'll much rather have an LED flash which the galaxy S didnt have.
What I do care about is the still picture camera and gaming performance, 2 areas the nexus S was up with the best for it's time but the galaxy nexus isnt. The nexus S didnt bring in a new screen but it was still the best you could get. It didnt bring in a new chipset but again it was the best you could get(yes shortly bested by the tegra 2) but it was still more than adequate for 800x480.
While the galaxy nexus would have superior screen to my nexus S, it would have inferior sunlight legibility which is an unfortunate compromise that shouldn't be there considering how bright the note is. While it plays all games fine for now you never know when it's time would be up due to how poorly optimized android games can be.
I agree with the above user google dropped the ball on this there is no way to go around it. The galaxy nexus unlocked is now cheaper than the galaxy S2, that shows how it has performed. The nexus S never became cheaper than galaxy S.
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The nexus phones always seem to be missing some crucial features that prevent them from destroying all the competition.
The nexus S had 480p recording which was a shocker since every high end phone was coming with HD video recording.
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480p recording was an operating system limitation at the time. Vanilla android just didn't support HD recording. People are giving manufacturers boatloads of crap for skins, but the reality remains that they add functionality that the underlaying OS wouldn't otherwise have. My 2010 HTC Desire had HD recording because of Sense, but my Nexus S didn't have because of vanilla android.
The FM radio that is inside both Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus? Vanilla android doesn't support it so we don't get to use it. Also I believe skins have added quite a bit of HW acceleration to their devices before the OS itself had it in any meaningful way. Android is quite barebones OS in itself, though now with ICS things are looking much better.
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They're not *supposed* to be "destroying the competition". Nexus devices are meant to serve as an example for the direction they want Android to take. That's it.
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Well said.
From Google:
"...Nexus, is designed to allow enthusiasts to install custom operating systems. Allowing your own boot image on a pure Nexus S is as simple as running fastboot oem unlock."
From Engadget:
"Google's purebred Android phones are by nature developer-friendly and ship with a painless ability to unlock their bootloaders."
Again from Google:
"As part of the Nexus brand, Nexus S delivers what we call a “pure Google” experience: unlocked, unfiltered access to the best Google mobile services and the latest and greatest Android releases and updates."
From ZDnet:
"The Galaxy Nexus will be the next Google flagship phone, insuring owners will always get Android updates, and in a timely fashion."
From Gottabemobile:
"The “Pure Google Experience” phone skips all of the bloatware (pre-installed apps that nobody asked for) and custom UIs that manufacturers and carriers commonly tag onto Android phones."
Starting to get the picture of what Nexus is all about? Nexi are Google's flagship phone not Samsung's, not HTC's, not Sony's or anyone else.
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480p recording was an operating system limitation at the time. Vanilla android just didn't support HD recording. People are giving manufacturers boatloads of crap for skins, but the reality remains that they add functionality that the underlaying OS wouldn't otherwise have. My 2010 HTC Desire had HD recording because of Sense, but my Nexus S didn't have because of vanilla android.
The FM radio that is inside both Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus? Vanilla android doesn't support it so we don't get to use it. Also I believe skins have added quite a bit of HW acceleration to their devices before the OS itself had it in any meaningful way. Android is quite barebones OS in itself, though now with ICS things are looking much better.
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What are you talking about? The nexus S still doesnt have HD video recording with ICS.
If it really was an OS limitation you didnt think someone here at xda would have long been able to find a hack??
And GB nexus S is one of the smoothest if not the smoothest single core android phone I have used.
But the nexus is a consumer phone not a dev phone....quote all u want
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What are you talking about? The nexus S still doesnt have HD video recording with ICS.
If it really was an OS limitation you didnt think someone here at xda would have long been able to find a hack??
And GB nexus S is one of the smoothest if not the smoothest single core android phone I have used.
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Can't seem to find a reference at this point, but I have been told this. BTW HTC Desire still remains my smoothest single core android phone to this day. I really wasn't that impressed with Nexus S.
So let's see. You (OP) criticizes the GN because you think it has a weak GPU even though you admit it runs all current games fine. If the screen lacks brightness, you know this is configurable. As for the SD card slot, Google finds it is a nuisance because it splits the filesystem in half and you need to juggle where to put stuff.
Most of the camera problems were fixed with firmware 4.0.4 and it is definitely comparable with the GS2 (I own one too so I know).
The GN is a well designed device and comes with the best Android stock experience, not some skinned nonsense.
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As some said, its a base for other devices. Kinda like a minimum requirement for future phone. whatever other device makes, i don't care. I'm happy cuz Android is that powerful and has varieties. of course, i'll be staying with Nexus.
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Can't seem to find a reference at this point, but I have been told this. BTW HTC Desire still remains my smoothest single core android phone to this day. I really wasn't that impressed with Nexus S.
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I'd be inclined to agree, having a Desire for almost 24 months. However, the girlfriends Desire S is also single core and faster, she would never let me take Sense off of it but I dare say it could well have been better.
Here's a discussion where a number of users state that the 720p issue is because of the OS.
http://androidforums.com/nexus-s/238837-why-doesnt-nexus-s-record-video-720p-30fps.html
TlDr but I got bits out of it.
The nexus doesn't need a super gpu for 720p rendering the 4460 OMAP has the best HD decoding in the industry. The screen is fine. The camera is sub par in the amount of pixels it can fit in a square but the quality is fine. It does the job. Its a phone ffs.
Honestly all I can say is to read my signature.
Also, this phone was never meant to compete with iOS or other Androids. It was meant to help set an industry standard for the next generation of Android hardware.
Please, can we stop making threads about how the Nexus isn't everything you wanted it to be? There's plenty of other phones you mentioned, so go use em and stop cluttering our General.
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Can't seem to find a reference at this point, but I have been told this. BTW HTC Desire still remains my smoothest single core android phone to this day. I really wasn't that impressed with Nexus S.
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Galaxy nexus does HD video and nexus S is running the same OS so what does lack of HD has to do with OS?
And I have found the nexus S app drawer to be as smooth as iphone, cant get smoother then that. And home screens are pretty smooth as well without too many widgets. Ofcourse other phones could be just as smooth.
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This thread sucks.
Well said.
From Google:
"...Nexus, is designed to allow enthusiasts to install custom operating systems. Allowing your own boot image on a pure Nexus S is as simple as running fastboot oem unlock."
From Engadget:
"Google's purebred Android phones are by nature developer-friendly and ship with a painless ability to unlock their bootloaders."
Again from Google:
"As part of the Nexus brand, Nexus S delivers what we call a “pure Google” experience: unlocked, unfiltered access to the best Google mobile services and the latest and greatest Android releases and updates."
From ZDnet:
"The Galaxy Nexus will be the next Google flagship phone, insuring owners will always get Android updates, and in a timely fashion."
From Gottabemobile:
"The “Pure Google Experience” phone skips all of the bloatware (pre-installed apps that nobody asked for) and custom UIs that manufacturers and carriers commonly tag onto Android phones."
Starting to get the picture of what Nexus is all about? Nexi are Google's flagship phone not Samsung's, not HTC's, not Sony's or anyone else.
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So where does it say that the pure google experience gets hampered if you put the latest tech inside a phone? Seriously what is this ridiculous argument that just because it is dev phone it isnt about hardware.
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Here's a discussion where a number of users state that the 720p issue is because of the OS.
http://androidforums.com/nexus-s/238837-why-doesnt-nexus-s-record-video-720p-30fps.html
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2010 dude this is 2012. Obviously it has nothing to do with OS as nexus S is now running an OS that does support HD video.
Smallsmx3 said:
But the nexus is a consumer phone not a dev phone....quote all u want
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Who said it's a dev phone?
We (and Google, and the entire tech industry) has stated that the phone is a guidepost for Android. It's a reference phone.
Now, it's quite normal for developers to prefer Nexus phones because... well... they're the reference. But no one ever said it wasn't a consumer phone. It's just not going to be the latest and greatest of everything. It's not meant to be - never was.
Which is the question of the thread why the hell cant it be the latest and greatest when the greatest company samsung is making it??
Why should they leave out features that dont need any rocket science to put into? Why cant those who love the reference phone have all the greatest features when the company making it is clearly capable of delivering them?
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Galaxy nexus does HD video and nexus S is running the same OS so what does lack of HD has to do with OS?
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And some phones with ICS support UMS, yet we support MTP. The OS does have to do with it, considering it likely has checks in it, and/or the Nexus S specific overlay LIMITS it to 480p.
The Nexus S has 320mb of usable ram and a single core CPU. Do you expect it to record in 720p like a boss? I know my Droid Incredible had 720p enabled in an update, and it was a joke.
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Hi All,
I currently have a Motorola Milestone (international version of the droid) and I was wondering if I should update to the Galaxy Nexus. Acknowledging the fact that I can only classify my phone as "usable" if I have a rom which runs Froyo and is overclocked from 550mhz to 1GHz (The Froyo Mod by 89luca89). As a result of these tweaks and the overclock, my phone only lasts about 6-7 hours with a considerable amount of usage which is far to little for my expectations. I live in Canada and if I were to get a new phone it would at least be on a 2 year contract on Bell. Looking at the specs of the Galaxy Nexus it doesn't compare too much above the competition, and in terms of raw specs I believe that some competitors could easily surpass the performance of the Galaxy Nexus which essentially means that eventually, it won't be as great and would compare to other products (e.g. iPhone 2G against iPhone 4).
Okay, so at this point it seems as though I have made my decision to wait for longer but....
Although the Galaxy Nexus compared to a lot of the other competition seems to have underwhelming specs, it is still the first ice cream sandwich phone which Google and Samsung collaborated upon which means that the software would be tailored specifically for the hardware and vice versa. Also, I believe that the developer base would probably be extremely huge because of the number of consumers purchasing this product and the huge interest for developers with the newest version of Android. ( I mean look at the Nexus One!) Now another probem that I see with the Galaxy Nexus is that the GPU is 4 years outdated so it might not be the best phone to get but then again how many games do you really play on your phone? (I think the GPU is identical to the GPU in the Nexus S but apparently the processor is more-so tailored for multitasking and better performance, but not gaming)
As you can clearly see I'm at cross-roads and I seriously need some opinions.
My question to you guys is:
Should I get the Galaxy Nexus (on Bell's network) when it comes out in Canada or should I wait for a successor or a faster alternative such as the Samsung Galaxy S3.
Thanks, and your opinions are greatly appreciated
every person will give you a different answer/ reasoning behind that answer, in the end it would be do you want to spend the money. Im a Nexus fiend so I will say yes get it
If you wait for a while the droid RAZR is coming out and the specs are pretty awesome
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If you wait for a while the droid RAZR is coming out and the specs are pretty awesome
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specs are only part of a phone, motorola likes locking down their phones pretty tight, and god knows how they will provide updates
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every person will give you a different answer/ reasoning behind that answer, in the end it would be do you want to spend the money. Im a Nexus fiend so I will say yes get it
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I don't mind spending the money at all but I'm just afraid that it will get outdated too quickly because of the specs
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If you wait for a while the droid RAZR is coming out and the specs are pretty awesome
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The specs are pretty similar to the Galaxy Nexus, and I'd assume that the Galaxy Nexus would have much more developers which is good for me because I love mods, themes, roms, etc. Also I honestly don't want to wait that long to get ice cream sandwich and also motorola might ruin the entire experience if they add blur.
Thanks for your opinions guys, I think it is fairly evident that I am heading towards the Nexus Prime I probably have to wait for a very long time though since I don't think a GSM version with LTE will be available on Bell's network that fast
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If you wait for a while the droid RAZR is coming out and the specs are pretty awesome
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As a fellow MS owner looking to upgrade, MOTO can take the RAZR and shove it. Never again will I buy a MOTO phone after dealing with the whole droid = unlocked, ms = locked. And MOTO has said they will lock down the RAZR, so forget that.
I'm getting a nexus prime or a xiaomi M-1
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As a fellow MS owner looking to upgrade, MOTO can take the RAZR and shove it. Never again will I buy a MOTO phone after dealing with the whole droid = unlocked, ms = locked. And MOTO has said they will lock down the RAZR, so forget that.
I'm getting a nexus prime or a xiaomi M-1
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This.
I am also a Milestone owner. I will NEVER buy another motorola product again. Locked Bootloader, sold as a "flash ready" phone with 2.1!?! Finally updates to 2.2 8 months later and the build is soo bad the phone practically can't be used (DSI Errors).
Really my question now is, Nexus or GS2? I was really hoping for the exynos in the nexus.
SophT said:
As a fellow MS owner looking to upgrade, MOTO can take the RAZR and shove it. Never again will I buy a MOTO phone after dealing with the whole droid = unlocked, ms = locked. And MOTO has said they will lock down the RAZR, so forget that.
I'm getting a nexus prime or a xiaomi M-1
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Yeah now I'm like 95% sure I'm going for the HTC Rezound or the Galaxy Nexus
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This.
I am also a Milestone owner. I will NEVER buy another motorola product again. Locked Bootloader, sold as a "flash ready" phone with 2.1!?! Finally updates to 2.2 8 months later and the build is soo bad the phone practically can't be used (DSI Errors).
Really my question now is, Nexus or GS2? I was really hoping for the exynos in the nexus.
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I wouldn't get the GS2 though I would rather go for something like the Rezound just because it seems like old news now But I'm now debating whether fire power is more important or a higher developer base (in terms of both apps and roms) and newer OS
search for my post on the sub par hardware thread in the GN general forums. u will be convinced.
If you want a phone that doesn't get outdated fast, the Galaxy Nexus is the choice because you are guaranteed to get the latest update directly from Google in a timely manner.
The NS will surely lasts you 1.5 to 2 years and it will be one of the first phones to get the next version of Android next year.
The Nexus S is still one of the best phones out there with the latest software while other older high spec phones are crying to their manufacture for updates.
I would just say this for a point of view as a Nexus S users
If you spend time hacking and rooting your phone to rip off what ever manufactured skinned into your phone get the nexus
If you like speedy updates with new OS's get the nexus
The nexus s dev section might look slow to some people, but thats cause everything doesnt need to be fixed, its been a treat not to have the feeling to flash a rom to update a bug, its great.
I dont think I will ever buy another android phone that is not a nexus line, think about all those cool feature baked into ICS that you will probably not see if say Moto removed the lock screen and puts in their own dialer and such just saying
BrianDigital said:
I would just say this for a point of view as a Nexus S users
If you spend time hacking and rooting your phone to rip off what ever manufactured skinned into your phone get the nexus
If you like speedy updates with new OS's get the nexus
The nexus s dev section might look slow to some people, but thats cause everything doesnt need to be fixed, its been a treat not to have the feeling to flash a rom to update a bug, its great.
I dont think I will ever buy another android phone that is not a nexus line, think about all those cool feature baked into ICS that you will probably not see if say Moto removed the lock screen and puts in their own dialer and such just saying
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But from a hardware perspective the Galaxy Nexus isn't very strong. I wanted to get something along the lines of the new Exynos processor and certainly not that 4 year old gpu which I doubt could render games at such a high resolution. I might be looking to get the new Samsung galaxy s 2, the one with LTE and apparently theres an new one with a 1.6GHz exynos processor I think. Nonetheless, thanks for your reply
kanariya said:
If you want a phone that doesn't get outdated fast, the Galaxy Nexus is the choice because you are guaranteed to get the latest update directly from Google in a timely manner.
The NS will surely lasts you 1.5 to 2 years and it will be one of the first phones to get the next version of Android next year.
The Nexus S is still one of the best phones out there with the latest software while other older high spec phones are crying to their manufacture for updates.
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It might get outdated fairly quickly though as the gpu is fairly bad and the processor isn't the greatest and the competition is exponentially rising
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But from a hardware perspective the Galaxy Nexus isn't very strong. I wanted to get something along the lines of the new Exynos processor and certainly not that 4 year old gpu which I doubt could render games at such a high resolution. I might be looking to get the new Samsung galaxy s 2, the one with LTE and apparently theres an new one with a 1.6GHz exynos processor I think. Nonetheless, thanks for your reply
It might get outdated fairly quickly though as the gpu is fairly bad and the processor isn't the greatest and the competition is exponentially rising
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It's all up to you for what you think is more important.
I would take the pure Android experience, guaranteed timely updates over better spec on paper. The real world performance might be differ as ICS is optimized for the OMAP instead of the Exynos.
I would still take my Nexus S over any non Nexus device out there on the market today.
There is a reason that samsung has sold more android phones than motorola.
Better Hardware, better software.
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There is a reason that samsung has sold more android phones than motorola.
Better Hardware, better software.
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Not sure about Samsung against Motorola but Samsung's software generally sucks. That's the reason I want to avoid Galaxy S2 and get a Galaxy Nexus.
Dragooon123 said:
Not sure about Samsung against Motorola but Samsung's software generally sucks. That's the reason I want to avoid Galaxy S2 and get a Galaxy Nexus.
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Agreed. I really do hate TouchWiz with a passion.
I flashed CM7 on my SGS2 and loving it over the stock TW rom, also if there are some bugs (like BT sleep problem, and headphone volume that don't go higher than 50% closed source thinghs) but is blazing fast and customizable.
I will never go back again on stock Sams rom, that's why I'm getting a Nexus also if I'm disappointed on the hardware part.
For sure the sgs3 will be a kick ass, but sgs2 buyer's know that some battery eating bugs was solved from developers, after several months (Android OS process).
Well these is my opinion I can be wrong against some of you for sure, but as someone sayd I prefer flexibility and customisation over pure power, and I don't play games on a phone, so for me the Nexus is a must this year.
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http://m.gizmodo.com/5865701/what-does-nexus-mean-for-android-anymore
Thoughts? We had a terrifically lively debate back before the Nexus was released anyone change positions?
I don't agree with the direction the Nexus Phones are taking.
In my opinion
IT SHOULD NOT BE
mass consumed
a big profit generator
tied to any carrier.
launched with exclusive carriers or retailers
It SHOULD:
Be top of the line.... of everything. display, sound, graphics, memory, build.
Be expensive (to offset non mass production and to pay for the hardware)
Be fully functional so that devs can use all aspects of current standards to dev (microSD issue)
Include as many 'near to market' technologies as possible
Because.... why? We need a single really expensive, but proof of concept product to really push research and development in that direction. And the mass market is easily satisfied with phones like the HTC Desire or Galaxy S2 of its day
And I would pay for one... because I use my phone more often in a day than I do in a month with other toys that are more expensive (hiking gear, shooting gear, fishing gear etc) .
CanaganD said:
I don't agree with the direction the Nexus Phones are taking.
In my opinion
IT SHOULD NOT BE
mass consumed
a big profit generator
tied to any carrier.
launched with exclusive carriers or retailers
It SHOULD:
Be top of the line.... of everything. display, sound, graphics, memory, build.
Be expensive (to offset non mass production and to pay for the hardware)
Be fully functional so that devs can use all aspects of current standards to dev (microSD issue)
Include as many 'near to market' technologies as possible
Because.... why? We need a single really expensive, but proof of concept product to really push research and development in that direction. And the mass market is easily satisfied with phones like the HTC Desire or Galaxy S2 of its day
And I would pay for one... because I use my phone more often in a day than I do in a month with other toys that are more expensive (hiking gear, shooting gear, fishing gear etc) .
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Exactly. I'm game for that.
I think the reason it's being mass marketed right now is because no device makers really do vanilla Android and offer straight updates without modifications as soon as they're ready. If there was a handset maker or two filling that niche already, I bet the developer phones would fit what you listed there. And I think if the Galaxy Nexus does well on Verizon with the soft launch and limited advertising they're doing, you'll see more of those pop up in the future.
But I agree. I want a top of the line development phone that I can buy direct from Google or the manufacturer and tinker with regardless of which carrier I personally happen to be on.
I don't agree with the expensive part. Not all developers are well-to-do with a lot of money to splash on non-contract phones. If Google has to make deals with carriers so that it can bring affordable dev phones to more developers then it's a necessary evil.
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Be top of the line.... of everything. display, sound, graphics, memory, build.
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The Nexus line has never been and will never be bleeding edge. It's intended to set a benchmark for devs for all other Android phones.
There will always be higher spec Android devices that are released concurrently with the Nexus. If you want bleeding edge, grab the Android de jour phone. Not a Nexus.
Yeah the nexus s was ridiculed for not using a dual core SoC, it only really offered nfc as a new hardware feature. All the nexus phones are comparable, hardware wise, to the most recent superphones offered by manufacturers. The nexus line only really ushers in Android at its newest and purest form from Google.
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Yeah the nexus s was ridiculed for not using a dual core SoC, it only really offered nfc as a new hardware feature. All the nexus phones are comparable, hardware wise, to the most recent superphones offered by manufacturers. The nexus line only really ushers in Android at its newest and purest form from Google.
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Dual core phones weren't even at market when the Nexus S was released. Possibly it should of been delayed to ensure it did, but the first few dual core phones were all Tegra 2 based if I remember correctly.
Which for intents and purposes isn't a decently powerful SOC.
If memory serves me right without googling I think the Atrix was the first dual core smartphone released.
Which wasn't awfully fast, battery life wasn't good at all and had a fingerfull of optimized games that never really took off.
If I offended anyone for calling it a “prototype” phone, I'm sorry but it is....
I patiently waited for the Nexus…prayed for it…scoured the internet for it’s release date and specs...and when it finally arrived, it wasn’t as good as what the hype made it out to be. Maybe I set my expectations too high since I’ve waited a while for a good phone. (Still running with the HTC Eris)
I had a chance to compare it with the Rezound at the Verizon store last night and here's what I've learned…
The only things SGN has over the Rezound is the following:
1. Display
SGN has a bigger display, however, you only use the full screen when watching videos so for the most part your screen size is essentially he same as the Rezound.. SGN has better color but HTC Rezound has better detail.
2. Ice Cream Sandwich
It's new, not 'battle-tested', and is buggy. I believe it’s because of Ice Cream Sandwich the processor is under clocked at 1.2 Ghz as problems were arising when running at 1.5 Ghz. True, it will receive updates from Google before any other phone. The Rezound is expected to get Ice Cream Sandwich early next year.
3. Camera (Shutter speed)
It's fast, real fast, but the HTC Rezound is quick too. Supposedly, the speed is due to Ice Cream Sandwich. HTC Rezound front facing camera shows more detail than SGN’s.
4. XDA community appears to be going with SGN.
It appears, just about everything else goes to HTC Rezound….to me pictures and videos are the most important features in a phone as I use these often when I’m out and about with my family. I don’t use a point-and-shoot camera since you can’t quickly upload files to the web or forward to your friends and family.
Post pictures from your Galaxy Nexus!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392436
Rezound photo of the Day.. camera shots
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1385895
Galaxy Nexus vs iPhone 4S vs Galaxy S II vs HTC Rezound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA3vgZ7W-J4
It seems as though Samsung treated the SGN as a prototype phone, since they used dated hardware as opposed to using the latest and greatest for Google's Ice Cream Sandwich. Maybe, it's because Google had more creative control than Samsung when creating the device, thus Samsung was unwilling to fully commit to it…who knows.
Now, I'm not saying I won't get the SGN, but I will wait a few more weeks to read more reviews from you fine folks, plus wait for any updates, before making a final decision. Right now I'm slightly leaning towards the HTC Rezound.
My two cents….
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If I offended anyone for calling it a “prototype” phone, I'm sorry but it is....
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It might be a reference phone, but it's not a prototype. I think you need to look up the definition of prototype. If it's not the phone for you, then find the phone for you. I absolutely love mine and plan on keeping it for a long time (in phone years).
I kinda hope no more carriers subsidize the GalNex. Deja vu one month ago. This phone kicks ass. Did you want a nexus? You got it. That is what makes this phone cool, not the screen, etc. If all you care about is hardware, wait for something quad core and sick fall 2012
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Don't HTC's use SLCD, therefore can't use them outside in sunny weather. My old Desire was like this and really bugged me.
SGN uses amoled screen which works much better in these conditions.
This was a big decider in the Samsung vs HTC debate for me.
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The screen is still .2 inches bigger even with the buttons..
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If I offended anyone for calling it a “prototype” phone, I'm sorry but it is....
I patiently waited for the Nexus…prayed for it…scoured the internet for it’s release date and specs...and when it finally arrived, it wasn’t as good as what the hype made it out to be. Maybe I set my expectations too high since I’ve waited a while for a good phone. (Still running with the HTC Eris)
I had a chance to compare it with the Rezound at the Verizon store last night and here's what I've learned…
The only things SGN has over the Rezound is the following:
1. Display
SGN has a bigger display, however, you only use the full screen when watching videos so for the most part your screen size is essentially he same as the Rezound.. SGN has better color but HTC Rezound has better detail.
2. Ice Cream Sandwich
It's new, not 'battle-tested', and is buggy. I believe it’s because of Ice Cream Sandwich the processor is under clocked at 1.2 Ghz as problems were arising when running at 1.5 Ghz. True, it will receive updates from Google before any other phone. The Rezound is expected to get Ice Cream Sandwich early next year.
3. Camera (Shutter speed)
It's fast, real fast, but the HTC Rezound is quick too. Supposedly, the speed is due to Ice Cream Sandwich. HTC Rezound front facing camera shows more detail than SGN’s.
4. XDA community appears to be going with SGN.
It appears, just about everything else goes to HTC Rezound….to me pictures and videos are the most important features in a phone as I use these often when I’m out and about with my family. I don’t use a point-and-shoot camera since you can’t quickly upload files to the web or forward to your friends and family.
Post pictures from your Galaxy Nexus!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392436
Rezound photo of the Day.. camera shots
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1385895
Galaxy Nexus vs iPhone 4S vs Galaxy S II vs HTC Rezound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA3vgZ7W-J4
It seems as though Samsung treated the SGN as a prototype phone, since they used dated hardware as opposed to using the latest and greatest for Google's Ice Cream Sandwich. Maybe, it's because Google had more creative control than Samsung when creating the device, thus Samsung was unwilling to fully commit to it…who knows.
Now, I'm not saying I won't get the SGN, but I will wait a few more weeks to read more reviews from you fine folks, plus wait for any updates, before making a final decision. Right now I'm slightly leaning towards the HTC Rezound.
My two cents….
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so you say that pictures and video are the most important features in a phone to you.........and yet you choose a handset where it well known the camera wasnt the strongest ????????????????
I think people have forgot that the Nexus phones are designed for developers and Android purest. It is not a prototype, but rather a reference phone. If it did use bleeding edge technology then it might be called a prototype!
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Lol? Samsung? More like Google designed and Samsung manufactured. Its obvious this phone isn't for you because you missed the point of it. Xda developing for this phone over the rezound was obvious.
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Don't HTC's use SLCD, therefore can't use them outside in sunny weather. My old Desire was like this and really bugged me.
SGN uses amoled screen which works much better in these conditions.
This was a big decider in the Samsung vs HTC debate for me.
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i have an inspire with SLCD and you can't see anything in even moderate sunlight, even with the brightness up all the way and it's annoying me more and more, saving up for GNex, just need about $250 more. Come on christmas
It's the price of freedom
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gnarlyc said:
It might be a reference phone, but it's not a prototype. I think you need to look up the definition of prototype. If it's not the phone for you, then find the phone for you. I absolutely love mine and plan on keeping it for a long time (in phone years).
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Exactly, if you want a definition of a prototype look at the Storm 1
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It seems as though Samsung treated the SGN as a prototype phone, since they used dated hardware as opposed to using the latest and greatest for Google's Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Trying to work out if you're a troll
Firstly a prototype uses relatively untried / untested bleeding edge technology. If the SGN is using dated tech then its quite the opposite in that regard.
Secondly, your point is that because its not the latest hardware, it must be a prototype... putting aside your erroneous definition of a prototype, are you then saying all phones that dont use the latest hardware are 'prototypes'? - that's a rhetorical question so please dont answer.
I think what you are trying to say is that ur disappointed it doesnt beat everything else in every category which is fair but the downsides to this phone are well known (trawl the forums) so you haven't really added anything to the XDA community - this isnt a blog. If you want to create a post about your whimsies, perhaps you should set one up
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i have an inspire with SLCD and you can't see anything in even moderate sunlight, even with the brightness up all the way and it's annoying me more and more, saving up for GNex, just need about $250 more. Come on christmas
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Yeah Desire was the same. Won't be having another SLCD again for a long time no matter what size/res/whatever.
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I had a rent a rezound for a few weeks and I was so glad to get rid of it. Sense wrecks that phone and when ics comes
Sense will wreck it also. Rather have pure ics goodness then a higher mega pixel camera.
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The SGN is an absolutely fabulous phone. The battery drops fast under heavy use, but lasts a LONG time under light use. And while the 4g bars in the notification bar make it look weak, I've not had problems with the signal dropping out.
This minor issues, which I think will improve with updates, pale in comparison to the features (NFC, screen, voice to text) and ICS. Plus the developer support and updates from Google with source code support should make this the best phone for some time to come.
Sure there will be faster phones with better radios and cameras, but I doubt any will provide more satisfaction for me (personally) than the SGN.
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I also came from the Eris, and I have no in-depth experience with other recent phones, but I am very pleased with the GN. I have noticed a few quirks, but we are innovators, and as such we come to expect bugs. It seemed like the Eris was end-of-life'd immediately, so to get that phone to even operate at a tolerable speed, we had to rely on the excellent work of the devs here... The GN is light years ahead of that, how can you be disappointed?
I do understand the build up from all the hype leading to unrealistic expectations, but one hour with my new phone and I'm hooked.
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I dont see how anyone who has had experience with a SAMOLED screen can say it isn't amazing. Contrast, color and black levels are just ridiculous, and in 720p on the nexus? Nothing else comes close.
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I dont see how anyone who has had experience with a SAMOLED screen can say it isn't amazing. Contrast, color and black levels are just ridiculous, and in 720p on the nexus? Nothing else comes close.
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you're right. amoled and super amoled plus screens colors are ridiculous. oversaturated ugly ridiculous. samsung did good with the HD screen.
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I had a rent a rezound for a few weeks and I was so glad to get rid of it. Sense wrecks that phone and when ics comes
Sense will wreck it also. Rather have pure ics goodness then a higher mega pixel camera.
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This. A million times this.
I had a rent-a-rezound for a week and it was an horrific experience. What a terrible piece of crap the software is. The hardware is fantastic (although I like the Nexus more). I loved the heft of it and I loved the size...but then I powered it on.
Sense *completely* ruined that phone. The phone has great specs and feels wonderful...and yet it's laggy as all balls and has problems with crashes. Why? Because of Sense.
Google should start implementing rules against manufacturer skins. *None* of the 3 do anything but slow their phones down (TouchWiz is the best of the 3, with MotoBlur then Sense following...but all 3 are horrible). I couldn't wait to rid myself of the Rezound and I couldn't be more happy with the Nexus.
nicastro78 said:
I think people have forgot that the Nexus phones are designed for developers and Android purest. It is not a prototype, but rather a reference phone. If it did use bleeding edge technology then it might be called a prototype!
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This times a million. I am proud to have owned each nexus. People fail to realize the fact that these are made for as you said devs or Android purest. I've had a good amount of phones and I've always loved my nexus phones better then the rest. They have the best support from devs and google.
Okay, so it's not gone but the half hour I was forced to spend with android was miserable. Today, despite my better suggestions, my cousin bought a GN. He's not much of a techie, so he asked me to flash android revolution onto his device. Okay, rom-flashing, I used to be an addict. I took his phone, tinkered around, and physically cringed at the sight of the lag. I struggled past my initial disgust, I mean I had to attempt to improve the mess he got himself into. So, I get on the comp, download the files, and realize just how tedious all of this is. I do everything, get it flashed, hand it back to him. I don't care to see it, I feel violated enough having done that. I had to preserve the sanctity of my smartphone integrity. He takes it back and is in awe, so, he shows me how much faster it is. I suppose that I'm spoiled by quality, but it seemed slow even then. Hardly any smoother. I mean, I honestly think the first Gen trophy would have been better, he said the rep told them they haven't carried a windows phone in 3 years. Verizon really needs some better options, I hastily rushed back to the warm confines of my functional OS with suggestions to just utilize buyers remorse and pick up a focus S, a noteworthy upgrade. After using my WP7 before he was sold, but ATT sucks in his region.
I have the same experience from a slightly different angle. I am a big wp7 fan and currently tote an HTC titan which I love. I also had an ipad, my sister had a Motorola XOOM, she is a big fan of apple stuff so suggested we swap tablets, I agreed and am now the proud(?) Owner of a XOOM, and the thing drives me nuts, it lags, the browsing experience is laggy and horrible, the keyboard lags in the browser the interface is messy, I loathe the bloody thing but my sister will not swap back. People keep telling me I should flash the latest nightly eos ics version on my XOOM, but I run my own 24/7 business and don't have enough hours in the day to spend mucking about with something that should not deliver this sort of experience out of the box. On the upside, it supports flash so it is good for the bbc player, for everything else, I use my titan.
I find the OP a bit too convenient, I've used a GN and it was a great experience. I have no idea why you would want to flash that phone!
Now if this was the Verizon GN then it's no secret that this is Verizon's doing, you can read about it on any tech website. So in that case the mistake would be investing in anything other than the unlock GN, nothing to do with the actual "real" device or ICS.
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@adesonic I suggest you swap back the tablets in her sleep. WP is great but as far as tablets go, there's the iPad and the rest. I'm not even sure ICS on the Xoom would make it that much better.
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Honestly, i know exactly how refreshing it is to use a WP7 device coming from months of nerd raging, flashing and all sort of sufferings. Now i'm a 24/7 WP7 user and i feel fine with this, BUT: don't you ever phisically cringe whenever you have to plug your phone to a pc just in order to sideload an app? Ok, you shouldn't need that often, but what about multitasking? Don't you ever phisically cringe when you, for example, are using both the XDA App (painful to use on WP7 to say the least) and the browser, and when switching between the two you have to stare for a few seconds at a black loading screen before the XDA App reloads, generally wiping the text you just typed? What about having to pay in order to have a decent YouTube app on your phone? What about having to pay in order to have a decent gps navigation experience (unless you're on a Nokia device)? Both worlds are painful at some extent. Right now for my kind of usage it's way less painful to use a WP7 device, but you cannot expect that every single user will feel the same: we all have different needs.
On a side note, guess what kind of users are generally browsing XDA right now? I'll better take cover before another troll war starts rocking the topic...
Android's for customizing and hacking... out of the box, it's colorful bull****. If I would have to use TouchWiz or that LG-UI everyday, it would drive me insane!
I have a Samsung Omnia 7 (Stock ofc, but with some hacks e.g. tethering) , Samsung Galaxy SII (MIUI) and an Asus Eee Pad Transformer (revolver ROM). The device I use regularly is, as you might be able to guess, the Omnia 7.
The Transformer is only used as an E-Reader and for Movies (but it does that quite good!), the Galaxy SII is for flashing around and customizing. Not even music or anything on it, call me crazy
And my Windows Phone, well thats to actually get the work done.
Again the GN is pure android out of the box (unless it's from Verizon) and it works great. Since that's the phone mentioned in the OP I have to defend it. I would still rather buy a Lumia 900 or Focus S if they were sold in Europe but I can recognise ICS as a great OS.
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Okay, so it's not gone but the half hour I was forced to spend with android was miserable. Today, despite my better suggestions, my cousin bought a GN. He's not much of a techie, so he asked me to flash android revolution onto his device. Okay, rom-flashing, I used to be an addict. I took his phone, tinkered around, and physically cringed at the sight of the lag. I struggled past my initial disgust, I mean I had to attempt to improve the mess he got himself into. So, I get on the comp, download the files, and realize just how tedious all of this is. I do everything, get it flashed, hand it back to him. I don't care to see it, I feel violated enough having done that. I had to preserve the sanctity of my smartphone integrity. He takes it back and is in awe, so, he shows me how much faster it is. I suppose that I'm spoiled by quality, but it seemed slow even then. Hardly any smoother. I mean, I honestly think the first Gen trophy would have been better, he said the rep told them they haven't carried a windows phone in 3 years. Verizon really needs some better options, I hastily rushed back to the warm confines of my functional OS with suggestions to just utilize buyers remorse and pick up a focus S, a noteworthy upgrade. After using my WP7 before he was sold, but ATT sucks in his region.
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What is a "GN" ? Did he also sign a contract for a piece of hardware, or can he use whatever he finds on craigslist with his carrier ?
Apparently there are wp devices being sold, I see one or two a week on my local craigslist.
How convenient, Zee can't answer his lies in the Q&A forum, so he comes here for confirmations.
Smh, i tested my Nexus S against a Focus S, and my Nexus S running stock ICS not modded in anyway was smoother at everything. Shocking! ICS is really astonishing.
Also the 720p display on the GN is forcing the GPU to work 2.4x harder.
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I've seen a lot of reviews of gn and haven't seen any lag. Are you sure it was the Samsung galaxy nexus ?
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karan1203 said:
I've seen a lot of reviews of gn and haven't seen any lag. Are you sure it was the Samsung galaxy nexus ?
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http://www.bgr.com/2012/01/16/galaxy-nexus-users-plagued-by-random-reboots/
This was posted 6 minutes before your post.
A lot of people don't mention the GN's lag because they're comparing it to other android phones. 3 or 4 years in and google still can't create a gpu accelerated UI? Tragic.
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How convenient, Zee can't answer his lies in the Q&A forum, so he comes here for confirmations.
Smh, i tested my Nexus S against a Focus S, and my Nexus S running stock ICS not modded in anyway was smoother at everything. Shocking! ICS is really astonishing.
Also the 720p display on the GN is forcing the GPU to work 2.4x harder.
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Focus S against Nexus S? kidding me?
Do a Nexus S vs Titan.
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Focus S against Nexus S? kidding me?
Do a Nexus S vs Titan.
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He also mentioned android's new hardware accelerated UI in the other thread -_-... At the rate they're going, that'll be coming around when they're running through the alphabet for names a second time.
The Galaxy Nexus is amazing. Its smooth and the UI is incredible. I absolutely love the face that it has soft.buttons, and they made multitasking amazing in it.
But I cannot use a phone that big, ever. Its truly huge. Also the camera leaves something to be desired.
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Focus S against Nexus S? kidding me?
Do a Nexus S vs Titan.
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Does that really matter? I don't think that the additional 100 MHz packed by the Titan would matter that much. Anyway, be it smooth or not in the UI, it's quite sure the Nexus S won't be as consistent as a WP7 device (regardless the hardware) in terms of smoothness throughout all the OS and especially when using third party apps.
Answer Android UI is hardware accelerates. Why does Z need to tell Android shards to validate his choice of Windows Phone?
Polly gonna go in carrier stores play more tomorrow abduction thwarting Windows probes are thwarting only ones I'm sure I won't touch because if you have a first gen device there's almost no reason ti buy a new one anyways.
Played with all the AT&T new Windows phones. They didn't incite or when interest me.
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The OP is talking about lags and having to root to make it better, your post is about the size and camera....troll much?
EDIT: he changed his post right quick!
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Answer Android UI is hardware accelerates. Why does Z need to tell Android shards to validate his choice of Windows Phone?
Polly gonna go in carrier stores play more tomorrow abduction thwarting Windows probes are thwarting only ones I'm sure I won't touch because if you have a first gen device there's almost no reason ti buy a new one anyways.
Played with all the AT&T new Windows phones. They didn't incite or when interest me.
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Even most android fanboys aren't lying about the addition of hardware acceleration.
While I'm happy with my Lumia 800 and focus flash (titan broke, damn HTC and their crappy build quality) perhaps you should wait for the lumia 900. I wish I could've gotten some hands on time with that marvel of cellular technology at CES.
It is hardware accellerated. Stop living in 2010.
The UI latency you keep bringing up is invisible to most consumers and really, I didn't notice it when I spent over an hour in every carrier store Saturday morning/afternoon and played with the Galaxy Nexus. The UI is amazing, and it's smooth as hell. It also has 32GB internal storage and treats it the same as WP7 and iOS (everything on the same storage, no more small App partitions). It's an amazing device. I just think it's too damn big. Updates come way faster to the Galaxy Nexus than to any Windows Phone. With Android having a good UI now, I'm actually considering getting that device (I had sort of sworn off of it after the Vibrant, which is why I got the HD7). Android 4.0 has Native MTP support as well, which negates the need for USB MS as the device can sync natively to Windows Media Player (Music, Podcasts, Pictures, Video) - something not even WP7 can do (needs a redundant app for that). That has always been a negative for Android, but it's gone now...
The Lumia 900 will have the same crappy hardware as basically every other Mango device, it will just be huge, use a now "getting kind of old/overused" design, and have LTE - which isn't even available to most people here (so waste battery life for a capability that isn't possible to use, thanks but no thanks). It will even still have a WVGA resolution in a qHD and (becoming) 720p world, which looked terrible as all hell on the Titan screen when I played with it (made the Focus Flash screen look like a Retina Display by comparison).
The main issue is the OS, the device builds are not top notch but that's a different beast. The OS has grown boring to me, and I will be forced to carry 3 devices if I continue to use WP7. That's become unacceptable to me. I'm going to another platform so I can either use one device (if iPhone, I can ditch my iTouch and Android phone) or two (if Android, then I can carry my Android device and my tiny iPod Touch) instead of the situation I'm in now. I'm leaning towards iPhone, because of iMessage, FaceTime, and the fact that 80% of the people I know use iPhones now.
And yes, HTC is notorious for their crappy build quality. The only value they bought to Android was Sense, back when the Android UI was TRULY terrible. Other than that, their devices aren't anything to write home about.
The only area of pause with the Galaxy Nexus is the Camera and lack of a Camera Shutter button.
T-Mobile 3G here is giving me edge speeds with a full 3G signal, so I need to switch carriers next month when I switch phones, as well. I'm tired of their terrible network. Went home for a week last week and couldn't even make a call 90% of the time, or send a text. Had almost no reception. They should have let AT&T buy them.
So.. HTC One series, Samsung GSIII. Never a dull moment in the Android world. The only plus that any of these phones have over the Galaxy Nexus in my opinion is the camera. If the GN had a proper camera (I don't care about megapixels.. Just want good IQ) I would stick with it for a very long time. In the mean time, I'll be skipping these latest temptations in the hopes that next years Nexus delivers.. How do the rest of you feel?
The camera is fine since the 4.0.4 update but nobody seems to care.
I really am just fine with it.
I also find the camera in the nexus to be... adequate and I definetely have seen an improvement in photo quality since 4.0.4. Also 1080p videos taken on the Gnex, and subsequently viewed either on the Gnex or a TV, are absolutely awesome.
My two cents:
I like the One X because it improves on both processor and screen technology. LCD2 is said to really outshine the HD SAMOLED, and the OMAP4460 in the GNex is obviously no match for the S4. (Not as big a fan of Tegra3, to be honest).
As for the GSIII, this is exactly for me to 2012 what the GSII was to 2011. No major improvements in screen tech (800x480 for SII, same HD SAMOLED as GNex for SIII), and a processor/gpu combo that ruins everything currently available. Say what you will about A9 vs. Krait/A15, the Exyons 4 is the fastest thing out right now hands down.
Given the above analysis One X is obviously the better phone, as it improves on both the areas that matter, right? I dunno, honeslty. I can live with non-removable battery, I can even live with no SDcard slot... but BOTH? Kind of a tough pill to swallow.
Conclusion: Sticking with the GNex for now.
Camera works fine and looks great for me .
The gs3 doesn't seem like a worthy update, I'll wait for the next nexus.
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Perfectly fine with my GN. Funny thing is...this is the first time in a long time where I didn't have the impulse to get the latest and greatest. I checked out the specs on the new S3, while it's a really nice phone, it's nothing that's revolutionary per se.
I'm perfectly fine with the camera on the GN. Still worlds better than picture on film cameras people used to carry back in the day. Picture quality is perfectly acceptable to me.
If anything else I'll probably more than likely upgrade when the next Nexus phone debuts. I'm used to having vanilla envelope Android OS on my current and past Android phones. Still can't do skinned OS.
I'm holding on to this until Google slashes the next nexus to what the galaxy nexus is now maybe even a little bit longer
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Like many of you, sticking with the Nexus until the next iteration.
thanasisc4 said:
I also find the camera in the nexus to be... adequate and I definetely have seen an improvement in photo quality since 4.0.4. Also 1080p videos taken on the Gnex, and subsequently viewed either on the Gnex or a TV, are absolutely awesome.
My two cents:
I like the One X because it improves on both processor and screen technology. LCD2 is said to really outshine the HD SAMOLED, and the OMAP4460 in the GNex is obviously no match for the S4. (Not as big a fan of Tegra3, to be honest).
As for the GSIII, this is exactly for me to 2012 what the GSII was to 2011. No major improvements in screen tech (800x480 for SII, same HD SAMOLED as GNex for SIII), and a processor/gpu combo that ruins everything currently available. Say what you will about A9 vs. Krait/A15, the Exyons 4 is the fastest thing out right now hands down.
Given the above analysis One X is obviously the better phone, as it improves on both the areas that matter, right? I dunno, honeslty. I can live with non-removable battery, I can even live with no SDcard slot... but BOTH? Kind of a tough pill to swallow.
Conclusion: Sticking with the GNex for now.
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I remember reading somewhere from someone who spent some time with the GSIII that the screen colors and such almost rival the SLCD2 found in the One X.
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smacman said:
Just want good IQ
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Reading those words out of context made me laugh.
Anyways, if the GN didn't exist I would probably go for an HTC One series phone. Camera, screen, and build quality are really appealing. GS3 didn't do much for me, although I'm not interested in a quad core phone unless Ubuntu for Android is on it. It did have some interesting features that are software based. All that did for me is get me excited for possibilities of future Android updates.
smacman said:
So.. HTC One series, Samsung GSIII. Never a dull moment in the Android world. The only plus that any of these phones have over the Galaxy Nexus in my opinion is the camera. If the GN had a proper camera (I don't care about megapixels.. Just want good IQ) I would stick with it for a very long time. In the mean time, I'll be skipping these latest temptations in the hopes that next years Nexus delivers.. How do the rest of you feel?
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thats not the only plus, One X/S are better then Nexus in many ways....CPU, camera, screen, built quality, and they have faster modem.
kolyan said:
thats not the only plus, One X/S are better then Nexus in many ways....CPU, camera, screen, built quality, and they have faster modem.
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Yeah but the Nexus is better than the One X in many ways as well... pure android, actually gets future updates, removable battery, pentaband, and Google prices it at $399 without contract!
Just depends on what you really want.
snowglyder said:
Reading those words out of context made me laugh.
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If I had one of those I would buy an iPhone.