is there a 4G symbol next to the signal strength or does it say LTE? mine says 4G but they show LTE on the nokia website. i didnt upgrade my plan so i was wondering if i have LTE enabled or not.
When the "4G" shows, you're connected to HSPA+. When LTE shows, you are in fact on the actual LTE network.
slojko said:
is there a 4G symbol next to the signal strength or does it say LTE? mine says 4G but they show LTE on the nokia website. i didnt upgrade my plan so i was wondering if i have LTE enabled or not.
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Really? You need a lte dataplan to have lte.
When you upgraded, your provider should have offered the LTE Data Plan upgrade also.
One thing I've noticed is that I'm ALWAYS showing 4G now. I cannot wait to be able to look at the registry, so I can check it. I believe they set normal 3G to show 4G now. I've never gotten HSPA+ here in the house, and now it's ALWAYS on? hmmmm
Still love the phone, but that's a bit misleading...
just looked at my plan on the AT&t website and i have a unlimited LTE plan, but i still dont see the LTE symbol
Closest LTE tower is 40 miles away
Looks like Nokia's doing exactly what Apple did with the 4.1 update.
Even though you're most likely still using 3G speeds, the phone will display 4G.
Misleading. Anything under 6mbps is 3G.
The phone will only show LTE when you're in an LTE city. If you live in the bay area you're in luck. Anywhere else, not so much. (except if you live in the other major markets)
As far as the folks still grandfathered into the unlimited data plan, the good news is since your device is LTE your speeds will not be throttled until you hit 5GBs.
As soon as we have registry access, I'll be changing it to show 3G when it's actually 3G. I don't like being deceived, especially when I'm trying to download something...
I asked about this in the store and got flat out lied to by the representatives. Saying how we were in a 4G area now and my speeds will be improved. Did a bandwith test at home and still was only getting 3.5 down. Coverage map according to at&t is the same at my house and the corporate store 12 miles away.
Yeah, I'm kinda irritated about this too. Even my microcell is being labeled as "4G". When I was at work yesterday, I tried a speed test on 4G and got .8 Mb down. You don't want to know what my upload speed was.
Compupaq said:
Yeah, I'm kinda irritated about this too. Even my microcell is being labeled as "4G". When I was at work yesterday, I tried a speed test on 4G and got .8 Mb down. You don't want to know what my upload speed was.
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did your upload speed require a stamp? :-D
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I asked about this in the store and got flat out lied to by the representatives. Saying how we were in a 4G area now and my speeds will be improved. Did a bandwith test at home and still was only getting 3.5 down. Coverage map according to at&t is the same at my house and the corporate store 12 miles away.
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I feel your pain, but why would you ever believe a sales rep about anything other than the amount charged to your credit card? They are salesmen. Next week it might be dishwashers, after that an underground sprinkler system. Though I feel you, you had that coming.
Just as I suspected. They've changed the Registry to show 4G even when it's definately NOT 4G. I am only able to read the Registry, so am still stuck with it, but at least I can confirm they have tried to pull the wool over my eyes as I thought.
How are they getting away with that ? Is that legal ? It must be something to do with Windows Phone, both my symbian Nokias are showing 3.5G symbol for HSPA+, not 4G.
I just looked at this wiki page, I don't know how accurate it is, but it shows the following:
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What is the difference between LTE and LTE Advanced ? According to this, even LTE is not 4G, its 3.9G.. and HSPA+ is 3.5G
Oh, here we go.. according to International Mobile Telecommunications this is what you need to market a device as a "4G" .. but I guess no one cares since most iPhones I see are showing 4G and they don't even have the radios for it. I guess this is the "loophole"
"On December 6, 2010, ITU-R recognized that these two technologies, as well as other beyond-3G technologies that do not fulfill the IMT-Advanced requirements, could nevertheless be considered "4G", provided they represent forerunners to IMT-Advanced compliant versions and "a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed"."
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Actually, I have no problem with them labeling HSPA+ as 4G. That's ok with me. But they've marked UMTS as 4G. Now that seems downright dishonest... It's my guess that was done by AT&T, not Nokia/Microsoft, since it directly benefits them...
yea this does blow
i look to be just on the outskirts of the Baltimore LTE signal for ATT, and would really like to know what sort of connection I actually have, not what they want to con me into thinking. thought I'd assume if I actually did have LTE, it would be saying so, at least hopefully.
it blows - there are three towers within 10 miles of my house, but none of them put off the LTE signal. they seem to have one every exit up and down I95 in the Baltimore/Metro area
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yea this does blow
i look to be just on the outskirts of the Baltimore LTE signal for ATT, and would really like to know what sort of connection I actually have, not what they want to con me into thinking. thought I'd assume if I actually did have LTE, it would be saying so, at least hopefully.
it blows - there are three towers within 10 miles of my house, but none of them put off the LTE signal. they seem to have one every exit up and down I95 in the Baltimore/Metro area
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Actually, the LTE symbol is set correctly. It will only show when you are actually connected to LTE. The only one I see set incorrectly is the UMTS. It's set to 4G instead of 3G. Unfortunately, UMTS is what I normally have at home. On rare occasion, I can get HSPA+. But it's just nice to know exactly what connection I have in case I'd like to download a larger file.
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When you upgraded, your provider should have offered the LTE Data Plan upgrade also.
One thing I've noticed is that I'm ALWAYS showing 4G now. I cannot wait to be able to look at the registry, so I can check it. I believe they set normal 3G to show 4G now. I've never gotten HSPA+ here in the house, and now it's ALWAYS on? hmmmm
Still love the phone, but that's a bit misleading...
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I spoke to At&t about this. They told me the towers software is upgraded before the hardware. When that happens it will show 4G when you are getting 3G speeds. I may be wrong, but as I understand it 3G and 4G HSPA+ the difference is Fiber between towers instead of cable. Maybe someone can clarify for us if that's true.
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I spoke to At&t about this. They told me the towers software is upgraded before the hardware. When that happens it will show 4G when you are getting 3G speeds. I may be wrong, but as I understand it 3G and 4G HSPA+ the difference is Fiber between towers instead of cable. Maybe someone can clarify for us if that's true.
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That's very possible, but the issue I am having is that they simply changed in the Registry to show UMTS as 4G. That's just dishonest, unless they have some magical way of making UMTS 4G?
I'm sorry I keep going on about this. I'll stop... You won't normally see me complaining about this type of thing on these forums, I'm just a bit frustrated that it's been so blatently thrown in our faces. I still love the phone, and I actually don't mind the AT&T service I recieve, but they should TRY to not be dishonest as much as possible.
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ok so tonight i looked at my tp2 and i saw it was connected to 3g (no surprise for me) and right next to that it said HSDPA (no H symbol) a few nights ago i saw dl speeds of 900-1.53 and ul of 500-900
heres a screen shot of what it looked like maybe you can post yours 2 hopefully its not a false alarm. im currently in Sacramento CA
if anyone else can confirm this or post screen shots that would be awesome
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u can just change the name of the connection.... nice try..
I would of heard of a network upgrade to HSDPA.. i work at T-Mobile... not sales..
T-Mobile has 3.5G in some major cities. And yes it will register as HSPA. I'm currently connected to HSPA in Chicago. And no, it's not just a name change, or a ROM setting. I can sit here and watch it change from H to 3g to Edge, and when I go to the basement, GPRS.
You obviously don't read all the correct info if you're working for t-mobile...
T-Mobile has plans to upgrade from 7.2 to 21 in 2010, so obviously they want to start testing their towers for coverage and signal.
There was a report on it by Engadget, and probably a couple other tech blogs as well.
where in chicago, im in the loop and have no HSPA just 3g>egde>gprs....
http://www.tmonews.com/2009/11/t-mobile-7-2mbps-hspa-hath-cometh/
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u can just change the name of the connection.... nice try..
I would of heard of a network upgrade to HSDPA.. i work at T-Mobile... not sales..
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there are many places talking about HSPA just look it up. and i actually didnt think of changing the name but that is what i got.
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T-Mobile has 3.5G in some major cities. And yes it will register as HSPA. I'm currently connected to HSPA in Chicago. And no, it's not just a name change, or a ROM setting. I can sit here and watch it change from H to 3g to Edge, and when I go to the basement, GPRS.
You obviously don't read all the correct info if you're working for t-mobile...
T-Mobile has plans to upgrade from 7.2 to 21 in 2010, so obviously they want to start testing their towers for coverage and signal.
There was a report on it by Engadget, and probably a couple other tech blogs as well.
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and yours actually shows an H? do you have a stock rom? or did you upgrade i would love to see an H on mine. im not fully sure if it is actually HSPA but i know in the advanced networ settings that its set to HSDPA/HSUPA
but i really hope its real
and here are some links talking about tmobile HSPA. also i talked to a rep and alot of them never heard of HSPA they said they dont know things till the last min
links!
http://www.tmonews.com/2009/11/t-mobile-talks-7-2mbps-speeds/
http://www.tmonews.com/2009/11/t-mobile-7-2mbps-hspa-hath-cometh/
http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/09/18/t.mobile.hspa.plus.now.live/
there are many sites i can post hundreds of links but there not just rolling out HSPA but HSPA+ !!!
3g or H
Ok I am also in Chicagoland and in Aurora I get the H icon on my phone... decent speeds ... But today I drove into the city and my phone displayed the 3g Icon and the speed seemed to be faster... I wish I would have know I would have taken a speed test ... oh well just an FYI ..
EDIT: Before flashing the custom rom ... The T-Mobile Rom displayed 3G ....
agreed
i agree that before i flashed a custom rom my pro 2 showed 3g, now it shows H.
Hey OP what part of Sacramento are you in b/c i live in Sac too and when doing speed tests i have only reached 685kb per second. i have been using a custom rom and it has always displayed H, i have yet to see a 3g icon. even when i was using Android with custom roms i always had H. i just figured it was a rom thing. can you clock your speed and post the results?
it would be nice to get an idea of others speed here in Sac, we were one of the first cities to get 3g and i dont see why we wouldnt get 7.2 soon
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Hey OP what part of Sacramento are you in b/c i live in Sac too and when doing speed tests i have only reached 685kb per second. i have been using a custom rom and it has always displayed H, i have yet to see a 3g icon. even when i was using Android with custom roms i always had H. i just figured it was a rom thing. can you clock your speed and post the results?
it would be nice to get an idea of others speed here in Sac, we were one of the first cities to get 3g and i dont see why we wouldnt get 7.2 soon
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south sac in the greenhaven/pocket area by garcia bend (the park by the river that seperates sac and west sac)
and ill try to get one but last night i have been getting the speeds you have been getting but i teatherd to my laptop a few times and actually gotten those speeds
ill try to get screen shots up later today
This has been talked about a million times. Official ROMs will not show the H symbol. For 1 simple plain reason. No one other than a geek knows what HSPA means. 3G is more market friendly. Also if your custom ROM shows an H it usually refers to HSUPA, which is the upstream TX channel.
By the way, down here in Atlanta, GA with my official ROM I get constant 900Kb/s. I use mobilespeedtest.com
alabij said:
This has been talked about a million times. Official ROMs will not show the H symbol. For 1 simple plain reason. No one other than a geek knows what HSPA means. 3G is more market friendly. Also if your custom ROM shows an H it usually refers to HSUPA, which is the upstream TX channel.
By the way, down here in Atlanta, GA with my official ROM I get constant 900Kb/s. I use mobilespeedtest.com
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i only heard that about AT&T not T-Mobile and i dont trust mobile speed test because alot of people have been getting 3000-7000kbs on 3g NOT WIFI
my speed tests arnt looking so good right now im getting 1.00-1.03 each time it looks like its capped or something because i was getting better
but you can see that other people are getting good results
ill try at another time see if i can get my speeds back
Stock ROM won't show an "H", as it is disabled. However, if you install Advanced Config, you can turn the "H" symbol on, and then your stock ROM will show it.
Speed's vary substantially, with 7.2 being the best you can get, in a clean room environment. However, just like EDGE and 3G you won't ever get the full speed. Thankfully an even higher speed network is being started next year, so really this blip to 7.2 is kinda pointless...Outside of giving T-Mo some time to test out their new towers before turning on the speed...Too bad we will all need new devices to take advantage of it. (IIRC it will be on a different bandwidth then the current iteration of 3G/3.5G[H].)
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Stock ROM won't show an "H", as it is disabled. However, if you install Advanced Config, you can turn the "H" symbol on, and then your stock ROM will show it.
Speed's vary substantially, with 7.2 being the best you can get, in a clean room environment. However, just like EDGE and 3G you won't ever get the full speed. Thankfully an even higher speed network is being started next year, so really this blip to 7.2 is kinda pointless...Outside of giving T-Mo some time to test out their new towers before turning on the speed...Too bad we will all need new devices to take advantage of it. (IIRC it will be on a different band then the current iteration of 3G/3.5G[H].)
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well there going to upgrade to HSPA+ 21mbps but i think your talking about LTE which is 4G but t mobile said that there gunna see how HSPA+ is gunna work b4 upgrading to LTE and they feel no need to upgrade to LTE anyways becuase they said something about there HPSA+ is gunna be faster than any other company because they will have it b4 all the other company's start setting up LTE. LTE would need completely new devices and none are even made yet as far as i know
I heard that HSPA+ would require a new radio, but I could be completely off base there! I sure hope not, I'd love to get the 21Mbit speed with out having to buy a new device!
The TP2 isn't capable of reaching those speeds, but any device can take advantage of these upgrades.
I need more 3G Coverage. NONE at my house despite the map showing that it's covered well beyond my area.
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T-Mobile has plans to upgrade from 7.2 to 21 in 2010, so obviously they want to start testing their towers for coverage and signal.
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T-mobile may do the upgrade in the network, but it wont happen with your TP2. Your modem can't do more that 1mbps. And if you see 3G it is not 3.6mbps like the at&t Tilt 2. It is very sloooooow!
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there are many places talking about HSPA just look it up. and i actually didnt think of changing the name but that is what i got.
and yours actually shows an H? do you have a stock rom? or did you upgrade i would love to see an H on mine. im not fully sure if it is actually HSPA but i know in the advanced networ settings that its set to HSDPA/HSUPA
but i really hope its real
and here are some links talking about tmobile HSPA. also i talked to a rep and alot of them never heard of HSPA they said they dont know things till the last min
links!
http://www.tmonews.com/2009/11/t-mobile-talks-7-2mbps-speeds/
http://www.tmonews.com/2009/11/t-mobile-7-2mbps-hspa-hath-cometh/
http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/09/18/t.mobile.hspa.plus.now.live/
there are many sites i can post hundreds of links but there not just rolling out HSPA but HSPA+ !!!
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im in westchester county, ny.
mine shows H all the time.
no mods.
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T-mobile may do the upgrade in the network, but it wont happen with your TP2. Your modem can't do more that 1mbps. And if you see 3G it is not 3.6mbps like the at&t Tilt 2. It is very sloooooow!
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not true thats the quoted data speeds for the network t-mobiles is 1.2 and att says 3.6. but the tp2 can handle 7.2mbps
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The TP2 isn't capable of reaching those speeds, but any device can take advantage of these upgrades.
I need more 3G Coverage. NONE at my house despite the map showing that it's covered well beyond my area.
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try going to your phone settings and where it says select network type try WCDMA it will lock it to 3g only and u might be able to pick up a signal i had a problem in my house where if i go towards the back it would go to edge but higher signal i have it locked to wcdma. i get lower signal but it says on 3g..
no guarantees but its worth a shot
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Sprint just started building out*its LTE network, but being the eager beavers that they are, the folks in Overland Park are already talking about taking the Now Network to the next level. Iyad Tarazi, Sprint's VP of network development and engineering, said that Sprint will be rolling out an LTE-Advanced network in the first half of 2013. (As a brief refresher, LTE-Advanced is a*true 4G technology*that can make regular LTE speeds lookpositively pedestrian*in comparison.) Tarazi added that we would see 12 LTE devices in 2012 and that over 250 million people will have access to Sprint-flavored LTE by the end of 2013 -- with*voice over LTE*service coming in the first quarter of that year. For those (hundreds?) of you worried about the fate of of WiMAX, well, don't. Apparently, the out-of-favor 4G network will continue to be supported for several more years due to Sprint's agreement with Clearwire. So, it appears Sprint's really making a run atVerizon's*LTE hegemony. Good luck Mr. Hesse, you're probably going to need it.
Source: http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...nferiority-compl/&category=classic&postPage=1
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well to me that just means we got the galaxy just in time. hopefully we'll get lte about the time we get our phone upgrades renewed may just be about perfect timing.
I'd rather hear about they are going to put up more towers, increase 3g speed than these news
Tell Me about it I have crap speeds
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I'd rather hear about they are going to put up more towers, increase 3g speed than these news
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They aren't going to put up new towers.
Sprint actually has the most towers of all the major carriers.
Network Vision is actually going to allow for less towers while giving more coverage and better speeds.
More towers does not necessarily mean more coverage.
Just higher costs to run the network / maintenance.
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They aren't going to put up new towers.
Sprint actually has the most towers of all the major carriers.
Network Vision is actually going to allow for less towers while giving more coverage and better speeds.
More towers does not necessarily mean more coverage.
Just higher costs to run the network / maintenance.
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This. Can't wait for LTE on Sprint.
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Exactly. Sprint doesn't support Wimax in my area now - I can rarely connect and when I do I get crappy speeds. So their continued support of them doesn't exactly inspire me. As long as they are rolling out LTE why not roll out EVDO rev B at the same time at virtually no additional cost? And for goodness sakes, increase your backbone that the towers connect to and fix your proxy servers!
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They aren't going to put up new towers.
Sprint actually has the most towers of all the major carriers.
Network Vision is actually going to allow for less towers while giving more coverage and better speeds.
More towers does not necessarily mean more coverage.
Just higher costs to run the network / maintenance.
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Im confused y do people keep saying they want sprint to focus on 3g speeds and coverage from my understanding of network vision isnt that what they are doing in addition to switching to lte? I dunno maybe i missed read
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Sprint actually has the most towers of all the major carriers.
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On two separate networks, CDMA and iDEN?
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Im confused y do people keep saying they want sprint to focus on 3g speeds and coverage from my understanding of network vision isnt that what they are doing in addition to switching to lte? I dunno maybe i missed read
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I don't know about others but I'm saying their network speeds where I need them - Arizon, CA, NY, FL and CT are wretched for 3G and 4G rarely even works well/frequently disconnects and isn't very fast where I've managed to maintain a connection. So to put it succinctly - Sprint data speeds suck both on 3G and 4G everyplace I need them.
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I don't know about others but I'm saying their network speeds where I need them - Arizon, CA, NY, FL and CT are wretched for 3G and 4G rarely even works well/frequently disconnects and isn't very fast where I've managed to maintain a connection. So to put it succinctly - Sprint data speeds suck both on 3G and 4G everyplace I need them.
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I live in the Bay area and although slow the speeds have been enough for me to surf and check stuff. I just recently finished school in NY and just moved out here a few months ago and my speeds in new york seemed fine as well as in CT. I had the EVO then and all summer until the epic came out. 4g has sucked as far as coverage everywhere i went but when i do get a connection the speeds were about 4-6mbps. To be honest i didnt notice that my 3g speeds were really slow until i started seeing people complain in threads lol i guess ignorance is bliss.
boe said:
Exactly. Sprint doesn't support Wimax in my area now - I can rarely connect and when I do I get crappy speeds. So their continued support of them doesn't exactly inspire me. As long as they are rolling out LTE why not roll out EVDO rev B at the same time at virtually no additional cost? And for goodness sakes, increase your backbone that the towers connect to and fix your proxy servers!
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Because they're quickly moving to LTE Advanced.
When they do that they will actually be a "true 4g" network with voip etc.
Everything will be data.
As far as your backbone comment, that's exactly what Network Vision is doing.
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Im confused y do people keep saying they want sprint to focus on 3g speeds and coverage from my understanding of network vision isnt that what they are doing in addition to switching to lte? I dunno maybe i missed read
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That's exactly what Sprint is doing unfortunately people really haven't read into it.
"Within the range of system development, LTE-Advanced and WiMAX 2, can use up to 8x8 MIMO and 128 QAM. Example performance: 100MHz aggregated bandwidth, LTE-Advanced provides almost 3.3Gbit peak download rates per sector of the base station under ideal conditions. Advanced network architectures combined with distributed and collaborative smart antenna technologies provide several years road map of commercial enhancements."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_Advanced
Could you imagine 3.3Gbps? LOL
Overstew said:
Could you imagine 3.3Gbps? LOL
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I would be thrilled if Sprint even delivered 3mbps where I need it, frankly .3mbps is very discouraging.
Overstew said:
Could you imagine 3.3Gbps? LOL
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With the current limitations on data (except on Sprint) you could literally use your entire months 2GB allotment in 4.8 seconds.
Well..about 2 years to go..lol
i hope that i still like my phone for two years
http://m.intomobile.com/2011/10/27/...com/&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
This article says that sprints lye advanced will be around 15 mbps.
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http://m.intomobile.com/2011/10/27/...com/&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
This article says that sprints lye advanced will be around 15 mbps.
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Welcome to Sprint.
Cast aside your ideas on 3G and 4G speeds. We (at Sprint) don't throttle your speeds once you exceed 2GB or 5GB - we throttle from your very first kilobyte. Your speeds will be so slow you won't ever exceeed 2GB or 5GB. This is how we can offer unlimited data. But rest assured if our speeds improve for any unforseen reason, we'll include a $25 fee for your "outstanding" data experience on top of the $10 fee you pay for the "rich" data experience.
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Ajamucamphor said:
i hope that i still like my phone for two years
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I hope I make enough money to be on a better carrier in 2 years.
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http://m.intomobile.com/2011/10/27/...com/&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
This article says that sprints lye advanced will be around 15 mbps.
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I have a hard time buying that LTE-Advanced would only achieve 12-15 mbps real world. LTE on Verizon currently gets that and that isn't even LTE-Advanced....
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http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/242661/sprint_aims_to_use_clearwires_lte_network.html
The more the merrier I always say.
i left verizon yesterday and switched over to go gsm but also to save money and get unlimited data back. i got the note 2 and my wife got the gs3. great phones and they work fine except my data speeds are horrid. i live in a superb coverage area to, i get 3-4 bars constant but cannot pull even close to 1 meg down on 4g or edge. this is happening on both phones. :crying:
i called tmobile today and they say it sounds tower related as i live right by it. they opened a ticket to have it looked at but im fearing if i wait this out and it doesn't get fixed im stuck, i believe i can return the phones and cancel the contract within 14 days. do you guys think i could have a couple bad sims cards or does this sound tower related? i did port our number over from verizon too. both phones are rooted with the toolkits and unlocked bootloader if that makes a difference.
i need advice as i hate to leave and go to at&t or sprint which is far worse.
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i left verizon yesterday and switched over to go gsm but also to save money and get unlimited data back. i got the note 2 and my wife got the gs3. great phones and they work fine except my data speeds are horrid. i live in a superb coverage area to, i get 3-4 bars constant but cannot pull even close to 1 meg down on 4g or edge. this is happening on both phones. :crying:
i called tmobile today and they say it sounds tower related as i live right by it. they opened a ticket to have it looked at but im fearing if i wait this out and it doesn't get fixed im stuck, i believe i can return the phones and cancel the contract within 14 days. do you guys think i could have a couple bad sims cards or does this sound tower related? i did port our number over from verizon too. both phones are rooted with the toolkits and unlocked bootloader if that makes a difference.
i need advice as i hate to leave and go to at&t or sprint which is far worse.
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Goto settings>About Device>Status and post your Signal Strength data. With -83dBm and 15 asu I get a constant 11mb down with speedtest.net.
Where else have you tested your data speeds?
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Goto settings>About Device>Status and post your Signal Strength data. With -83dBm and 15 asu I get a constant 11mb down with speedtest.net.
Where else have you tested your data speeds?
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i have not tested it anywhere else but will tomorrow.
im getting 89 dbm 12 asu on 4g. i cannot even get close to 512 on speedtest.
does it take time for data to provision or something? i know he told me it could take up to 24-48hrs for my number to be ported. but that happened late last night.
Deleted. shinkinrui you were right. Thank god I use titanium backup.
It sounds like a bad tower
-81 dBm 18 asu here
15.06 mbps down 1.71 up
You should go out and see if you get better speeds around where you are. If you go a few miles away and get great speeds then it's the tower for sure
Agree, it could be a bad tower. They were working on a tower near my office, exact same scenario. A week later, works like a charm.
mdt73 said:
Not sure. You can try to enter *2767*3855# in the dialer and reprovision. Might have to do it two times to get it to stick. That will force a reprovision.
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This code is the factory data reset code for most Samsung devices. It doesn't have anything to do with provisioning.
my money is on bad tower too. just switched yesterday from sprint. i got the note 2, girlfriend got the s3. our speeds are INSANE compared to sprint
stretchwookie said:
my money is on bad tower too. just switched yesterday from sprint. i got the note 2, girlfriend got the s3. our speeds are INSANE compared to sprint
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My dead cat can transfer data faster than Sprint...
Drive somewhere else in their HSPA+ coverage area and run the speedtest again to verify.
It's T-mobile, when I get on train station I get constant -53dBm and below 0.05Mbit, Wanna proof ?
Try the app "fresh network" , and look at your speed test app to see that you are on HSDPA, and not umts.
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i get 3-4 bars constant but cannot pull even close to 1 meg down on 4g or edge. this is happening on both phones. :crying:
i need advice as i hate to leave and go to at&t or sprint which is far worse.
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It's the tower. The T-Mobile tower near my house has line of sight and it went down to edge speeds (like .12Mbps down, .002Mbps up) last month. I called them on the 15th and it took them about two weeks to fix it. My speeds are back to normal now, so my advice would be to notify them that the tower is FUBAR, and wait it out. That is of course assuming you get normal speeds other places too, but it would be a moot point if your home has crappy speed. Here's my latest ST:
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Different areas different speeds me and my wife got the same phones and we get average 8mbps down.
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The cause of slow speed might be the fact that T-mobile is restructuring their 1900 band on certain towers. Here in California, I happen to live in an area where they are restructuring the cell tower I am using, so I get download speed of 0.01mbps to 0.15mbps. However, as soon as i walked out of the range of that particular tower, my download speed goes up to 12mbps to 15mbps.
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The cause of slow speed might be the fact that T-mobile is restructuring their 1900 band on certain towers. Here in California, I happen to live in an area where they are restructuring the cell tower I am using, so I get download speed of 0.01mbps to 0.15mbps. However, as soon as i walked out of the range of that particular tower, my download speed goes up to 12mbps to 15mbps.
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I hope this is true. I'm a new T-mobile customer and have had the spottiest reception in the bay area. I've read this article (http://blog.t-mobile.com/2012/11/20...-metro-areas-just-in-time-for-holiday-travel/) and am crossing my fingers. I'm constantly stuck on EDGE when i'm indoors as well.
Same here, I pop in the TMobile sim and I get 1.5Mbps and .3 up. Pop in ATT and I get 6Mbps and 1.2 up. So it's not the phone. I'll try different areas. So far I'm not impressed with their Customer Service and Data. I was happier on GoPhone.
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The cause of slow speed might be the fact that T-mobile is restructuring their 1900 band on certain towers. Here in California, I happen to live in an area where they are restructuring the cell tower I am using, so I get download speed of 0.01mbps to 0.15mbps. However, as soon as i walked out of the range of that particular tower, my download speed goes up to 12mbps to 15mbps.
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yeah that's what was causing it as i called tech support. the issue was resolved within 24hrs. i have decent speeds again now.
I had a similar issue when I first bought my note 2 on release day. Was getting on average about .22 down speed and the up speeds where so slow the speedtest app could never finish running it. Called tmobile and they opened a ticket and got it working within the week. Now I get anywhere from 14-16 down at home and roughly 3 up. Guve it some time if they say they are working on it its just a matter of time.
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yeah that's what was causing it as i called tech support. the issue was resolved within 24hrs. i have decent speeds again now.
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Glad to hear your problem is fixed. I've found T-Mobile to be iffy sometimes. But 99% of the time my phone has very acceptable data speeds.
Those of you on T-Mobile, please rate, discuss, and critique their entire network. I am looking for Note 3 user's opinions on EDGE, HSPA+, and LTE performance. I am interested in building penetration and 4G/4GLTE consistency.
I am looking at ditching my two AT&T lines because I am so sick of the throttling, locked bootloaders, and high monthly prices. We can save about $50/ mo with T-Mobile. However, I am fully aware of the cons to T-Mobile. I know EDGE is inevitable. I know for a fact that T-Mobile has EDGE only on the below coverage map of my house. My sister has an S4 with T-Mobile and gets 5 full bars of EDGE. Seems they run that at full blast compared to AT&T. Anyway, the AWS (1700/2100) band doesn't reach as far as the 850/1900 bands AT&T uses. That's why we get good service from them at home, despite T-Mobile using the same tower.
So I would appreciate some honest opinions of those of you who use T-Mobile's 4G and 4G LTE data services. I am curious if they have gone to 10x10 LTE yet, or even 20mhz.
Thanks
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EDIT: I got my answer. T-Mobile sucks so bad by me, its not even funny. I just popped in a T-Mobile pre-paid card into my iPhone 5s. Here is my input from the Howard Forums. Just for the side note, the iPhone 5S uses the same bands at the T-Mobile branded Note 3.
So I have been dying to try T-Mobile on my iPhone 5s for a while now. Finally got it unlocked and stopped at the T-Mobile store today. The manager (Erik) was a total douche. I immediately asked about their monthly 4G. Obviously, this meant no commission for him. He said I would NOT get LTE on my unlocked AT&T iphone 5s. I politely told him that the AT&T/T-Mobile iphone 5s are the exact same model. He said LTE required a different processor. I just was like, WOW, and left it at that. I get everything all setup and my iPhone 5S says "T-Mobile 4G". I then walk out the door and it now goes to LTE. I said, HEY DUDE, it gets LTE. Then he said, yea but it won't be able to take advantage of it. I said, yea to bad, a minute ago it needed a special processor. He looked really pissed and I said see ya.
Ok, that was funny, but that's not the point of my thread. The point of my thread here is to discuss the network quality of T-Mobile, preferably in Northwest, Indiana (Chicago suburb). I am driving away and the damn thing goes back and fourth from "4G" to LTE killing my battery. Ok, I get that, its a brand new technology. So I just turned it off. I was getting about 11 down on just HSPA+. So I'm sitting at the traffic light and I notice that spotify just stops. My phone still says "4G", but now I have no data connection. Now it just says, T-Mobile ****, showing 4 bars. Then I get E. I'm like WOW.
I decided to drive to the local AT&T/T-MO tower by my house. This tower is about a half a mile from my house. I always sit on 3 bars of AT&T LTE and HSPA+ in my house. Sitting in my car about 300 feet from the tower, my iPhone 5S is displaying 4 T-Mobile bars and 4G only. The speeds were averaging from about 5-11 mbps. I was getting the same speeds during a call, which is a huge step up from AT&T. So I drive down the street, about 2 years away, and now I have2 bars and the 4G is cutting in and out. Just down the street its now on EDGE. Its EDGE city all the way to my house. The EDGE is completely useless. Absolutely no data. Thankfully calls and texts can be made.
So, I still have a full month with their unlimited everything prepaid plan. I always knew the area in which I live kinda sucked, I just didn't think it was this bad. The iPhone 5S supports AWS HSPA+, which even seemed spotty. I will still test T-Mobile's network out at school and other places, but boy am I ever glad that I did prepaid before porting any numbers over.
AT&T is evil. AT&T locks their Android boot loaders and now is forcing all customers to their over priced mobile share data plans. I tried to escape them, but its just not possible right now. T-Mobile cannot provide a consistent experience in a very populated Chicago suburb. It's kind of sad. I wish they would completely abandon the AWS frequencies and they are just awful. The overall signal is just so weak, even with the tower in sight.
So spending $80 today actually saved me a big headache because I was going to port to T-Mobile in the near future. I just can't get over how inconsistent their network is. Don't get me wrong though, its amazing when it works. The HSPA+ is much faster than AT&T and has lower latencies. However, the LTE needs a lot of work. The LTE was no faster than the H+. I average about 40-60mbps down on AT&T's LTE network.
Just my thoughts. Maybe someone will think twice who is considering T-Mobile in Lake County, Indiana.
Cheers
since TMobile uses higher frequency (shorter wavelength) bands 1700/2100 and 1900, the signal can't penetrate to basement. I live in a apartment and TMobile signal is super weak while ATT is always at constant 2 bars. When I'm outside, TMobile signals are always good.
T-Mobile Pros: new and better tech of 4G LTE so faster speed, very fast HSPA+ as backup, wifi calling on all Android phones.
T-Mobile Cons: bad signal in obstructed area
The reason I'm using T-Mobile is because it is a lot cheaper.
PS. I love my Note 3
I have 1 bar in my apartment and the speeds are great
2-4 bars on the first floor at work - given that 4G LTE is stronger downtown and as I go up the floors...it gets even better. I do not have a basement so I do not know about that.
I am not sure what edge is...
I live in Charlotte nc and I pretty much have 4g everywhere I go! I work at the airport and get the fastest download speeds here. When I leave the Charlotte area I pretty much lose 4g which means I pretty much don't have data but I can still make calls. I went to Myrtle Beach over the weekend and couldn't get a data signal over 2g during the drive to save my life but I still prefer their unlimited coming from verizon. the signal in Charlotte is the same if not better. But If you travel alot you may not want to switch. I don't vacate to often so I don't mind.
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I'd like to know why they run their EDGE network at full blast? Do they do that with LTE yet?
Indoors I get good signal... In a hospital building now on the 4th floor with 4 above me and I'm still getting 28mbps
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The lower the Mhz the better penetration power, however the worse sound quality. That what I was taught in college.
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I live in Charlotte nc and I pretty much have 4g everywhere I go! I work at the airport and get the fastest download speeds here. When I leave the Charlotte area I pretty much lose 4g which means I pretty much don't have data but I can still make calls. I went to Myrtle Beach over the weekend and couldn't get a data signal over 2g during the drive to save my life but I still prefer their unlimited coming from verizon. the signal in Charlotte is the same if not better. But If you travel alot you may not want to switch. I don't vacate to often so I don't mind.
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I'm in Charlotte too. I get 4g everywhere and lte pretty much everywhere seems like the south side has the fastest lte speeds. Upwards of 36 down near Archdale
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Ok, I understand how the signal works, but why do I get 5 bars of EDGE at my house when I could force the phone to HSPA only and barely get 1??? The tower has been completely upgraded to HSPA/LTE. I just with it preferred 1900 HSPA.
At work I get one bar with LTE in my breakroom. However I get 4 to 6Mbps. On H+ I get 3 to 4 bars and get 5Mbps. Right outside the door and a few feet away 3 to 4 bars LTE and 20 to 30Mbps.
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I'm in Minnesota and just switched from AT&T to T-Mobile after giving them a test run for a month. Overall, no difference between the two in coverage in the metro area. Haven't ventured out too far though. My dad goes south for the winter and has said the coverage has surprised him (he switched with me to T-Mobile). Glad I made the switch, now just waiting til next month to move the rest of my lines.
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I just left VZ for the same reasons, overpriced & data taxi. VZ did get better signal in some areas but their 3G CDMA network is slow compared to T-Mobile's HSPA+ network here in Phoenix, AZ. I have only have had T-Mobile service for a week now and like it better over VZ already. UNLIMITED!
Around the metro Detroit area, data speeds are consistent and very fast. No problems for me ever with calls either. Although if you get out into the sticks, data slows to edge speeds, but calls have been fine.
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Around the metro Detroit area, data speeds are consistent and very fast. No problems for me ever with calls either. Although if you get out into the sticks, data slows to edge speeds, but calls have been fine.
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I'm not out on the sticks. I just know they're not very consistent. But this time I actually am gonna try them out. See how they are for the 14 days then make the decision to move over my AT&T lines.
It's really a no brainer. No matter how you look at VZW and ATT are going to have to change.
Tmobile is cheaper and has 2x the bandwidth as ATT, our 3G network as in HSPA+ is so fast that if you're going to watch movies and you suddenly don't have LTE, it won't stop to buffer because 3G is just as fast.
I paid 90$ for one line that was Unlimited everything Talk, Text, Web. 2.5GB of HotSpot. Regular insurance without Jump.
Now with three lines we pay 230$ same thing all unlimited.
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Just left Verizon as well - sick of those guys and being tied to them for two years at a time. Expensive - treats their vet customers like we're holding them back from something... its ridiculous
I'm in Cincinnati, Ohio and I'm pretty much all over the area - Northern Kentucky, Southeast Indiana - even Northern Ohio and really get 4G all the time. I see edge in transition to less populated areas - be it Highway or back roads but as soon as I get there - 4G! They're all dense focuses of people so not shocked that its true but pleasantly surprised that it tends to be 4G / wifi or edge. .. And edge seems to be decent. No hiccups going from one or the other and wifi calling is pretty amazing. Very happy about the switch
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You all should install and use the Sensorly app in order to see and get your coverage & speedtest data out there. No guessing.
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You all should install and use the Sensorly app in order to see and get your coverage & speedtest data out there. No guessing.
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I would wager real world use over numbers any day :good: but it does look like another resource. I used open signal to see coverage and while Verizon has the most coverage - 4G hasn't been as steady in all that space in my area. It seems more of a where do you need it thing then a "nice to know I can make calls in the middle of a body of water" lol
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I would wager real world use over numbers any day :good: but it does look like another resource. I used open signal to see coverage and while Verizon has the most coverage - 4G hasn't been as steady in all that space in my area. It seems more of a where do you need it thing then a "nice to know I can make calls in the middle of a body of water" lol
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Biggest whiners seem to want 3G in the middle of nowhere from T-Mobile. EDGE is fine as long as it works. It's just annoying when AT&T has my whole area blanketed in LTE. They use the same tower and the best T-Mobile could do is EDGE. But I have wifi.
Can HD voice be used over EDGE?
Check on Ebay for a T-mobile repeater.
I got one for about $100
I had one bar in basement and barely got any service.
With the repeater installed 4 full bars now in the basement and fast as hell data.
so im thinking about changing from verizon to tmobile because i really want unlimited data back (nfl sunday ticket). was just wanting some opinions from anyone else that made this switch in the central ohio area or has been with tmobile in the central ohio area.. how's the coverage? you hear good and bad, sounds like it's on the up in the recent years and future but theres nothing like the actual customers opinions.
Powell730 said:
so im thinking about changing from verizon to tmobile because i really want unlimited data back (nfl sunday ticket). was just wanting some opinions from anyone else that made this switch in the central ohio area or has been with tmobile in the central ohio area.. how's the coverage? you hear good and bad, sounds like it's on the up in the recent years and future but theres nothing like the actual customers opinions.
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I certainly don't have coverage in places that I had with Verizon. I think its the bandwidth difference. I do get data speeds about twice as fast maybe more on T-Mobile. 30MB down 12UP
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I certainly don't have coverage in places that I had with Verizon. I think its the bandwidth difference. I do get data speeds about twice as fast maybe more on T-Mobile. 30MB down 12UP
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see at my house on verizon i get 70-80 mbps sometimes... thats on my m8. i also keep seeing theyre going to improve "in-building" service... do you notice it going out inside houses, building, stores etc...?
i did the test drive w/ them.. i was just curious while i wait for that phone to be shipped.
Columbus here...
Pros: LTE coverage great around the 270 outerbelt and suburbs
Cons: Spotty data the further rural
Cons x2: Hit and miss data when traveling outside city limits (i.e. I-70, I-71)
Calls/texts still great when driving, and I've noticed more "E" coverage lately than complete drop-offs. Verizon wins @ the moment if you're looking for reliable data while traveling, but as far as city coverage is concerned, T-Mo is pretty awesome.
Personal history: 12 years w/ Sprint, 18mo w/ VZW. Currently 8mo into T-Mo contract, w/ unlimited data option. Haven't looked back once.
Springfield ohio here
Att was my old service going to tmobile was a it rough not going to lie but I get constant 4G no let unless I go north or south of my location but it's slowly working it's way to me
LGG3 and beyond
Powell730 said:
see at my house on verizon i get 70-80 mbps sometimes... thats on my m8. i also keep seeing theyre going to improve "in-building" service... do you notice it going out inside houses, building, stores etc...?
i did the test drive w/ them.. i was just curious while i wait for that phone to be shipped.
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Yes when I go inside some buildings I loose my signal.
Thanks for the replies! I don't travel much at all, especially now that I have a newborn son so as long as I can get coverage at my home and work I might pull the trigger. One thing that might hold me back is I am on edge with Verizon and I just found out you can't apply the etf payoff from tmo to help payoff your phone on the edge plan. So I'd have to payoff my phone in full ($550 still) and then switch.. Which kinda sucks.
Looking forward to the test drive to see what I'm able to get. Something that has been confusing me is when the coverage map says "service provider" what does that mean? Voice only? On something other than T-Mobile? Also.. That coverage map, is that data coverage or voice?
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Powell730 said:
Thanks for the replies! I don't travel much at all, especially now that I have a newborn son so as long as I can get coverage at my home and work I might pull the trigger. One thing that might hold me back is I am on edge with Verizon and I just found out you can't apply the etf payoff from tmo to help payoff your phone on the edge plan. So I'd have to payoff my phone in full ($550 still) and then switch.. Which kinda sucks.
Looking forward to the test drive to see what I'm able to get. Something that has been confusing me is when the coverage map says "service provider" what does that mean? Voice only? On something other than T-Mobile? Also.. That coverage map, is that data coverage or voice?
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Sensorly and OpenSignal maps can give you a good idea of real user-generated signal maps in the areas you frequent, but they do work best in urban/sub-urban locations where more users map their travels.
Tmo in Columbus is great for me on the north side. If I go too far past Powell though I drop to 2g. I average 20-25+ on lte and even if I use hspa I still get 10. I find the signal bars with tmo seem to fluctuate a lot when I had my nexus and it would show I had 1 to 0 bars sometimes but I never had a problem making calls or using data. In my basement at home I used to get 0 bars of lte but still could pull 10mbps down. I would recommend the switch in Columbus if you don't travel a lot out in to the country.
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Tmo in Columbus is great for me on the north side. If I go too far past Powell though I drop to 2g. I average 20-25+ on lte and even if I use hspa I still get 10. I find the signal bars with tmo seem to fluctuate a lot when I had my nexus and it would show I had 1 to 0 bars sometimes but I never had a problem making calls or using data. In my basement at home I used to get 0 bars of lte but still could pull 10mbps down. I would recommend the switch in Columbus if you don't travel a lot out in to the country.
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I work in Powell so it's good to hear it works there. I do often have to travel north into Delaware or sometimes further north into the rural areas but not having 4g there wouldn't really bother me because it's never a long time I'm there.
When you say hspa, is that 2g?
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Hspa+ is their 4g but not the lte. It works way different than Verizon.
T-mo has the following.
1g gsm
2g edge = 1xrtt for Verizon
3g Hspa = cdma for Verizon
3.5g Hspa+42 (faux 4g) = comparable to Verizon lte in slower market.
4g lte = Verizon lte
Wideband lte (which Columbus has) is a 15x15 lte setup which is faster than standard lte.
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Hspa+ is their 4g but not the lte. It works way different than Verizon.
T-mo has the following.
1g gsm
2g edge = 1xrtt for Verizon
3g Hspa = cdma for Verizon
3.5g Hspa+42 (faux 4g) = comparable to Verizon lte in slower market.
4g lte = Verizon lte
Wideband lte (which Columbus has) is a 15x15 lte setup which is faster than standard lte.
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This was true last year. Tmo now has LTE and some areas already have 20x20 service..sadly not mine..yet.
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I recently made the switch from T-Mobile to Verizon due to poor signal areas in Western PA where I travel to from Eastern Ohio. In the city T-Mobile is amazing for me, 40mbs down and 15up. Same area on Verizon 8 and 2...., however I get 4G LTE most areas and sometimes 3G, but works well. T-Mobile I couldn't even place a call...
It's unfortunate as I'd rather rock T-Mobile. Their plans are head and shoulders better. Paying 81 bucks unlimited text and voice and 1 frigging gig of data, granted I can't use it much at work, then home on wifi.
Oh well, such is life...
Well my test drive will be here tomorrow! I'm just hoping it comes before 1pm when I have to leave for work, otherwise no one will be here to sign for it ?
I'm definitely very excited to give it a try, would love to be able to not worry about my data again.. If I make the switch I'm debating on selling the m8 that I have to pay off and get the nexus 5.. I've read some stuff that people were having issues with network speeds on the nexus 5.. Anyone know if there's a specific version or something to avoid on the nexus 5? Sorry for the noob questions, it's completely different from Verizon which is what I've been with my whole life. I'm used to only being able to get your phone from Verizon instead of using unlocked phones etc..
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Never had to be home for a signature for T-Mobile.
After 14 years with Sprint I switched to T-Mobile a little over a year ago. Sprint use to be good and T-Mobile sucked but now it's flipped. I drove from Columbus to Savannah GA 3 months ago and service was decent. Not sure if you have just one line but I just noticed T-Mobile dropped the family 10GB plan to $100 from $160. I have unlimited data and don't really need it but nice to have in case home internet goes down. I also have the original Jump which is nice. Only issue I had with T-Mobile is they took away my discount but I got a better one. lol Sean at the 5th Ave store is really good.
Areas where I have tested In Columbus, Ohio and should only get better with Wideband LTE. Go Buckeyes!
Upper Arlington - I live by Riverside Hospital and get great service. It's near Ohio State (the Shot and Shoe) University Square
Bethel / Sawmill Rd - Good
Hilliard / Fishinger - Great
Polaris area - Great
Dublin - I think good in most areas
Muirfield - Around Glick Rd / Jerome not so great. The low speeds on my screen shot.
Marysville - Spotty. No service at the golf clubs but that's a good thing. lol
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One considetation is TMO coverage is pretty thin on the highways so if data is a consideration while traveling...TMO certainly not up to par with Verizon...
blasted by TMO G3
Thanks for the tests!
It's not really... I'm not expecting it to be the same as Verizon, but as long as I can make calls and text.. And get 4g where I work/wife works and live then I'll prolly make the jump. I also just found out Verizon phones don't work on T-Mobile which I wasn't aware of, so I'll have to end up doing something for a phone cuz I don't want to pay monthly on T-Mobile.
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rsohne said:
Never had to be home for a signature for T-Mobile.
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they didn't make me sign either, but it said in the email from tmobile that i must sign for it.
from my testing so far, I'm pretty impressed... i don't get great service in my basement which is perfect from Verizon... same with in my house in general.. i get about 25 down and 1 up but Verizon phone next to it gets 55 down and 25 up(all inside)... but outside my home I've gotten 69 down which i can sometimes achieve on Verizon. it's spotty all over the city of Powell but in the southern part of the city its pretty strong and where i work its definitely strong enough (15-25 down).. as I said though, I'm not expecting it to be comparable to Verizon.. just as long as it's good enough to work for me. I haven't had any problems with calls or texts (other than iMessage but that's due to the stupid iPhone they sent me).
now I just have to decide if i want to up my bill to get slightly worse data coverage but unlimited data... i'm on a family plan w/ 5 smartphones on Verizon and we just split the bill 5 ways which ends up being ~59/phone. So this will increase my bill for sure (only bringing two of the 5 with me to t-mobile). decisions decisions.
Thanks for all the help/opinions!
I just switched and it's been good in the city with the exception of Paul Brown Stadium in Cincinnati. I also switched becam because T-Mobile has a better international plan.