[Q] amazon services : Stock v/s CM7 which is better - Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am not trying to stir up debate
I have a amazon prime account, as well as i love books provided by amazon.
so right now i have stock rom rooted and customized to my need.
however i want to know is if i go with CM7 what are the changes i should expect what features i should expect not to work.
any other precaution i need to keep in mind.
Right now i have rooted, google play installed, go launcher as default launcher Stock rom. which now doesn't looks much like stock rom.

anantshri said:
I am not trying to stir up debate
I have a amazon prime account, as well as i love books provided by amazon.
so right now i have stock rom rooted and customized to my need.
however i want to know is if i go with CM7 what are the changes i should expect what features i should expect not to work.
any other precaution i need to keep in mind.
Right now i have rooted, google play installed, go launcher as default launcher Stock rom. which now doesn't looks much like stock rom.
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If your really into prime then dont change... you wont be able to use prime video and personally the stock kindle book app is better than the play store book app...but if you go with cm7 you could get netflix going and still read and be able to play more games... but if you like what you have i wouldnt change. seems like you have a good setup for your needs
If your going to stay stock consider this LINK

DJLamontagneIII said:
If your going to stay stock consider this LINK
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Modaco GR8 (from above link) is a spectacular rom. I use it and have access to Netflix, Hulu (NOT HuluPlus with paid app called Flash Video Browser) Dish, Slingplayer as well as Amazon Prime (native, not the Play app) and Amazon book lending. Basically the rom gives you everything from the stock rom (and I mean everything) along with the Play market and everything else you want. Best of all worlds.

DJLamontagneIII said:
If your going to stay stock consider this LINK
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This looks like something interesting.
masquerading as Galaxy Tab for maximum app availability​This is only thing i have not done will do it and then i think i will have a better system.
will download the rom to see what makes it tick.
Thanks all for helping with suggestions.

CM7 rocks!!

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[Q] Do you recommend buying Kindle Fire ?

Hi All ,
Want to get a cheap tablet as already own HTC Desire HD and just want to try Android at bigger screen ...
after searching found that Kindle Fire is the cheapest tablet that i can get but also found some problems related to few limitations Amazon added to it's tablet but also found that there is a solution for that problems
i will use it in Browsing , Facebook , Twitter and other normal stuff ,,, don't need a super performance
also noticed that there is other ROM's for the devices and already tried MIUI and CM7 at my Desire HD and was good so i guess using other ROM will solve most of Kindle Fire problems
another question ,,, is there any Honeycomb or ICS ROM for it either officially or by developers
Thanks a lot and waiting your help and if there any other tablet with good spec and good price that will be better than KF let me know plz
maybe you want to take a look at this thead:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393617
Yes, there is unofficial CM-7 ROM and CM-9 for kindle Fire. CM-7 is more stable and all features are running. CM-9 is also fairly stable but some features are still under development such as HD.
I am running CM-9 for almost more than three weeks in daily bases as the main ROM.
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Please note there are other Android tablet with more features such as external SD card and 3G network with a reasonable additional money if KF spec does not meet you requirement.
I forget to mention in my previous note that the blue youth is not enable on the stock ROM. Development is underway to enable it on CM7 and CM9.
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Thanks all for your quick help
is installing other ROM like MIUI make it a full functional ROM with all video playback - using MX Video as example - and Full music player either it's MIUI player or other one ?
does using other ROM like MIUI or CM remove all limitations and allow me to install apps and games and whatever i want ?!
i guess MIUI based on 2.3.7 is stable enough for daily use and there is MIUI ICS ROM for it and Stock ICS ROM also was available while i was searching
i guess MIUI will be great on it
The Question is : Does Removing Stock ROM And Installing MIUI , CM , ICS Ports To It Convert It To Normal Tablet With All Android Functions ?
Thanks again all
MohamedYousri said:
The Question is : Does Removing Stock ROM And Installing MIUI , CM , ICS Ports To It Convert It To Normal Tablet With All Android Functions ?
Thanks again all
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Yes. I'm on CM7 and have full Android experience. Of course, no BT, no ext card. And you will lose some Amazon goodies, but anyway most of them are useless if you are not in States
gett said:
Yes. I'm on CM7 and have full Android experience. Of course, no BT, no ext card. And you will lose some Amazon goodies, but anyway most of them are useless if you are not in States
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That is exactly what i mean...
I just want it for internet facebook twitter movies , don't care about BT or Camera or Amazon Apps cuz as u said i will be outside US
Thanks again and i will try to find way to get it by friend or whatever
If you just want it for Facebook, twitter, porn, ect... then the Fire will do you good. For $200 you really can't go wrong. Anyone know if it's possible to get the web browser from CM9 to run on CM7? I just like the way it's setup more.
Just flashed CM7 on my KF and couldn't be happier!!!! Seriously, it's an amazing tablet, especially for $199. As Morrison79 stated above, you really can't go wrong.
Does other browser like opera , firefox , dolphin hd working good ??
also what about MX Video Player , it's the best video player i have ever used , does it work good with KF ?
i know that it's for 200$ it's an amazing tablet and already like MIUI and CM Rom and have no problem in using any as my main ROM
i will search for any friend that can got it for me soon
MohamedYousri said:
That is exactly what i mean...
I just want it for internet facebook twitter movies , don't care about BT or Camera or Amazon Apps cuz as u said i will be outside US
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For $200 KF do the job great
MohamedYousri said:
Does other browser like opera , firefox , dolphin hd working good ??
also what about MX Video Player , it's the best video player i have ever used , does it work good with KF ?
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For me, stock browser in CM7 is great. I use MX player, no problems at all. You can also check Mobo Player, it's great piece of software
MohamedYousri said:
Does other browser like opera , firefox , dolphin hd working good ??
also what about MX Video Player , it's the best video player i have ever used , does it work good with KF ?
i know that it's for 200$ it's an amazing tablet and already like MIUI and CM Rom and have no problem in using any as my main ROM
i will search for any friend that can got it for me soon
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Yes all three of those browsers work great on Cyanogenmod 7... I loved the ICS browser so much that I did not try them though I do not know about video player sorry..
Have the Fire and 32gb HP Touchpad...I have CM9 on the touchpad and like it better over the KF. But for travelling and on the go the KF comes with me most of the time due to the smaller size.
Paid almost the exact amount for the KF and Touchpad.
Hi all ,
As i have a friend now in US that can grab the KF for me ,, shall i get one or wait for ASUS Google Nexus Tablet ???
Also is there a ICS ROMs for KF Full Functional now or no ??
Thanks
MohamedYousri said:
Hi all ,
As i have a friend now in US that can grab the KF for me ,, shall i get one or wait for ASUS Google Nexus Tablet ???
Also is there a ICS ROMs for KF Full Functional now or no ??
Thanks
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Some of the ICS Roms look very stable and have very little bugs that are minor
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if you find something I posted helpful please thank me
I use CM9 as my daily now. Currently using the Energy ROM w/ Hashcode's June-8 kernel and it is solid as a brick. Minor issues: It seems the ROM has regressed regarding recognizing ad hoc networks (for tethering). Some other ROMs appear to support ad hoc networks. Auto brightness doesn't work yet in this ROM, either.
Those are the only issues I can find right now and I use it every day. I give it the "Daily" seal of approval!
MohamedYousri said:
Hi all ,
As i have a friend now in US that can grab the KF for me ,, shall i get one or wait for ASUS Google Nexus Tablet ???
Also is there a ICS ROMs for KF Full Functional now or no ??
Thanks
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gedeROM barely has any bugs.
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So you all recommend that i get the Kindle Fire , Remove The Stock Firmware , Install Miui/CM9 and enjoy a dual core tablet for 200$ till the Quad Core Tablets are released ,,,
Any issue with common Applications or Games or every thing is just working fine ?
Most of use will be Movies , Games , Internet , Music
I play MassEffect Infiltrator, FLCommando on my kindle quite often. Both run without a hiccup.
I don't know how far in future a new/better deal is going to come out but right now this is as good as it gets. And you must come to grips with the fact that sooner or later something better is inevitably going to come out. Doesn't mean you should regret your decision to go with the kindle. It is a bargain at $200 after all.
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I have a kindle fire, running ICS (gedeROM v1.55).
It works great. Music, videos, games, internet, Google apps & store.
Definitely don't think it would be a mistake getting this tablet if you just can't wait any longer.
But with the nexus tablet is likely to be announced by end of month, I would wait just a bit longer to weigh options.
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Best option for mom?

I got a kindle fire for my mother. Wondering what the best course of action would be. Looking for a rom that i can install and not worry about updates, so as stable as possible. i was looking through and it seems like there is a netflix bug with the 3.0 roms? that is a bit of a deal breaker. can i get the play store and everything just with root?
can someone at elast tell me if there are any bugless roms? actually a couple bugs are fine, but i think no netflix kills it.
Have you a considered leaving it like it is? There's a lot to be said for the stock ROM for Moms and suchlike.
Lotek said:
Have you a considered leaving it like it is? There's a lot to be said for the stock ROM for Moms and suchlike.
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I agree, the stock rom is pretty hard to "F" up through normal usage.
Just my opinion, I had the same decision to make on my wife's, so I flashed the MoDaCo 6.3 and she didnt even know, except that you can tell by some downloded apps icon's resolution not showing great. But she is OK with that. Also, keep in mind that she doesn't watch movies on the Fire.
I have no problems on ics roms with Netflix. Once you mod the build.prop it will work. For her, I would go with modaco though. Everything works, and it feels like an Amazon device.
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I'd say keep it stock too. If she has issues with it, then you can try a rooted rom then.
i just stayed with stock 6.3 and rooted and added the play store with go launcher...can't beat it...
i have no problem keeping it stock. i haven't looked into it too much. but mainly I just need to be able to side load apps, movies, music and books. I just assumed it wasn't possible with stock. the play store would be very nice too, but i'm almost positive that isn't possible stock. plus i'll be doing any tech support so i'd rather her have a nice ics rom that i know well.
i also just noticed aokp is officially supported, i didn't realize. I've got that on my phone and tablet. but there is no thread for the fire on rootzwiki, so i can't really tell what kind of bugs there are. anyone using aokp m5?
getting the play store on stock is possible cause i have it on mine,have you check xda for the aokp m5....you stay this is for your mother,i just leave it stock then cause the ics maybe a little confusing for her....ics is more advance in customization,don't get me wrong about ics...it's good,but there is always problems and it's not yet 100%...good luck in your journey...

[Q] Mother's Day gift...need ROM suggestion

So I got a kindle fire for my mom for mother's day...need some advice though. *Keep in mind that she used to use a touchpad running CM9, but recently broke her screen...
With that said, she also did occasionally need help with ICS. That *may* have simply been bc cm9 wasnt entirely stable on the touchpad at the time (wifi issues, occasional reboots, etc.)...do you suggest that I give her AOKP/CM9 on her Kindle Fire, or should I just leave it stock? She mainly used the touchpad for reading, simple gaming (puzzle games mainly, angry birds, etc), email, and web, basic news apps (last I know of was Google Currents).
I know most ppl suggest that stock is fine for basic users, but just wanted some other suggestions in my case, since she's coming from a CM9 touchpad...albeit she did not use ics to it's fullest IMO.
Thanks
PredZ said:
So I got a kindle fire for my mom for mother's day...need some advice though. *Keep in mind that she used to use a touchpad running CM9, but recently broke her screen...
With that said, she also did occasionally need help with ICS. That *may* have simply been bc cm9 wasnt entirely stable on the touchpad at the time (wifi issues, occasional reboots, etc.)...do you suggest that I give her AOKP/CM9 on her Kindle Fire, or should I just leave it stock? She mainly used the touchpad for reading, simple gaming (puzzle games mainly, angry birds, etc), email, and web, basic news apps (last I know of was Google Currents).
I know most ppl suggest that stock is fine for basic users, but just wanted some other suggestions in my case, since she's coming from a CM9 touchpad...albeit she did not use ics to it's fullest IMO.
Thanks
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If she's only going to be using it for that stuff then I say go with the MoDaCo Gr8 ROM. It's stable, fast, and has Google Play.
If you want ICS then go with Energy or gedeROM.
Thanks for the suggestion...I did see that, but I wonder how any of Amazon's auto-updates may affect it? I do not live nearby, so if somehow her firmware gets autoupdated, and it breaks things (mainly GAPPS I would assume), I wouldn't be able to fix it asap...I don't want to set false expectations
i would stay on stock with root,with most of the roms not being stable and you don't live close...then stock is best,i'm on stock 6.3.1 with root...if it does updated the only think is she looses root and that very easy to get back...i'm using go launcher and over clock to 1.2 ghz....all i think one would need for basic things...
PredZ said:
Thanks for the suggestion...I did see that, but I wonder how any of Amazon's auto-updates may affect it? I do not live nearby, so if somehow her firmware gets autoupdated, and it breaks things (mainly GAPPS I would assume), I wouldn't be able to fix it asap...I don't want to set false expectations
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You can modify some file and it will prevent it from updating automatically.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25648278
Here is the file that you need to rename.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25648278
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PredZ said:
So I got a kindle fire for my mom for mother's day...need some advice though. *Keep in mind that she used to use a touchpad running CM9, but recently broke her screen...
With that said, she also did occasionally need help with ICS. That *may* have simply been bc cm9 wasnt entirely stable on the touchpad at the time (wifi issues, occasional reboots, etc.)...do you suggest that I give her AOKP/CM9 on her Kindle Fire, or should I just leave it stock? She mainly used the touchpad for reading, simple gaming (puzzle games mainly, angry birds, etc), email, and web, basic news apps (last I know of was Google Currents).
I know most ppl suggest that stock is fine for basic users, but just wanted some other suggestions in my case, since she's coming from a CM9 touchpad...albeit she did not use ics to it's fullest IMO.
Thanks
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I'd recommend AOKP Milestone 5. Remember to remove the unicorns.
HOWEVER, the recovery is extremely easy to get to, and the last time my grandmother accidentally went into recovery she wiped the entire system. Flash stock recovery if possible.
PredZ said:
Thanks for the suggestion...I did see that, but I wonder how any of Amazon's auto-updates may affect it? I do not live nearby, so if somehow her firmware gets autoupdated, and it breaks things (mainly GAPPS I would assume), I wouldn't be able to fix it asap...I don't want to set false expectations
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I just got my mother a kindle fire and put MoDaCo Gr8 on it because I figured it would be the best of both worlds: Play Store with no updates but stock Amazon functions intact (only way to still play Amazon Prime Video, which you get free for first month). She also lives to far away for me to maintain it for her, so I decided on MoDaCo because some folks said it is immune to updates. However after reading through the MoDaCo ROM thread, I see that previous versions were not immune to updates and nobody has talked about this version being immune to updates, but some are renaming the file etc/security.otacerts.zip to be doubly sure it will be immune to updates (you dont want updates because it breaks root and Play Store). A few folks who have MoDaCo Gr8 did NOT rename this file and report that they did not get the update.
I would highly suggest the MoDaCo Gr8 ROM because it is really nice, stable, optimized, stock, has location services, rooted with Play Store and other Google services, and possibly immune to updates, but do what I failed to do when I sent mine off to my mother and rename that etc/security/otacerts.zip file. Then I think you can be reasonably sure it will be immune from updates.
You can install GO Launcher, make it the default launcher, configure a wallpaper and lock it (with KFU), and add a shortcut back to "Launcher" (kindle fire launcher) which will launch the stock looking kindle fire interface like an app... home button always brings you back to GO... this way it feels like a fully unlocked android tablet.... VERY SLICK!

[Q] amazon functionality with gede rom

something i cant seem to figure out please excuse my ignorance in advance. so i flashed gede rom for example but i use the kindle with amazon's stuff such as newspaper subscriptions that update everyday, amazon's video streaming and so forth running a rom i basically have an android tablet without the amazon features ? can i still have those same amazon capabilities with a rom or do i need to go back to stock?
is there a launcher or app that i can use ?
thanks in advance for any help/ advice
the amazon apps dont work on any ics roms
if you want the best of both worlds (albeit gingerbread-based like the amazon system), look at the modaco rom
you may be able to workaround some of the issues, e.g. you can use amazon video via flash in a browser, use the amazon kindle app, etc
ahha okay i understand now ok great thank you so much i really appreciate it !!

Is it a good buy ?

Currently i have an lg g2 but it has a defective screen. Im looking for another phone on the price range of 200. I can get the fire phone which i actually pretty intrested in or i can get the huawei ascend mate 2 or another lg g2 in brand new condition. I dont mind the amazon fire os and im leaning to the fire phone but what do you guys think ?
It's super easy to install Google services and while we have had to deal with our Google stuff going down for a couple of weeks when they updated, everything has been fine since then. If you use prime services it's a no Brainerd because the current cost is 179 and if u were going to get prime it's basically a 80 dollar phone. I don't regret it and I've been a strictly android user since I got the google g1 many years ago. I don't even mind the Amazon launcher. You just have to get used to the swype up for back and Netflix isn't working with chromecast.
It depends how you are going to use your phone, I'm on my second fire phone, sold the first because it was running android 4.2 and Android Wear needs 4.3 at least to work, now that the KitKat update is here, I gave it another go, bought used cheap on eBay, £95, the reason for this, really like the build quality, screen, specs and camera, really good pics in low light. I had the G2 as well and the fire camera is just a bit better IMO.
Now the negatives
The screen is a bit too tiny, awesome for one hand use, but I prefer the 5"+ screens.
No notifications icon on the status bar, if you have any missed notifications, you have to pull down the notifications to see them, that is why having a android wear device is essential if you don't want to miss any notification.
G2 Battery is better, fire phone does last a full day, but G2 is awesome when it comes to battery life.
This is a big one for me, no custom ROMs, I'm using Google Now Launcher to make it more like a pure android phone, but miss flashing custom ROMs
Tip:
If you are going to sideload Google Play Store, please have this in mind, search first for the app on the amazon store, if you can't find it there, than use the play store, had some issues before by doing this... also disable auto update from Play store, because Facebook for example, it has to be the Amazon App store version, just a couple of things to keep in mind if you want a stable phone =)
So if you want a different phone from most people, great build quality, compact, fast, good camera, this is for you, if you want a phone tried and tested, with a big screen and with with custom ROMs, than go for the G2
I got one brand new for £99 in the Amazon sale recently. It's good spec but I like tweaking my setup with custom launchers etc and it isn't too good for that. I'm using the stock fire OS launcher but I've got a gesture app installed now and a t9 launcher assigned to it and all sorts of other crap. Other launchers generally throw up issues I've found. If you're into Amazon for kindle and prime video it's probably worth it. By the way, do uk users get the one year free prime? I didn't see anything when I ordered!
hugoprh said:
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If you are going to sideload Google Play Store, please have this in mind, search first for the app on the amazon store, if you can't find it there, than use the play store, had some issues before by doing this... also disable auto update from Play store, because Facebook for example, it has to be the Amazon App store version, just a couple of things to keep in mind if you want a stable phone =)
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Why do you say so? I've installed every app from play store without collateral effects, even Facebook. And i have play store auto updates enabled and working too. What problems did you have with FB taken from play store?
Well amazon took the offer of 179 away so i guess im going for the lg g2. Really wanted the fire phone but i need a phone now and i was going to buy it Friday. Does anyone know how often amazon put the fire phone on sale?
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i love it, but i came from a s2, so it was a massive upgrade for me
FB was one of the apps, the issue I saw with some apps, was the icon would simply disappear from the Amazon launcher and the only way to open the app, was going to play store, search the app and press "open" through there, so I did a factory reset and disabled updates from play store and now all good, weird that you did not experience that and I did...
Wow can't believe it, $450 now. Anyway I love my fire phone. I use Google now launcher with gel customized, software keys via udn app, of course I use the play store and rooted with a proper superuser.

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