Call Quality Differences: AOSP vs Sense - Verizon Droid Incredible 2

Hi All,
In my experience so far with the dinc2, I've used several Sense as well as AOSP roms. Though I prefer AOSP overall, I did notice that when I used Sense roms, the call quality seemed a bit better / different when using the built-in earpiece (aka non-headset, non-speakerphone).
There was something about it - perhaps I could hear my own voice better through the earpiece, or the person on the other end sounded clearer; I can't adequately describe what it was. I do know that the Dinc2 has multiple mics for sound-cancellation; is this a feature that is present in Sense that didn't make it over to AOSP? Or is the way the sound is processed just different in each?
Also, other features like raising the ringer volume when the phone is in your pocket and then lowering it when you pick up your phone to answer a call, or switching to speakerphone automatically when the phone is placed screen down on a surface - is there a particular reason these features were never ported over to AOSP?

dirkdigles said:
Hi All,
In my experience so far with the dinc2, I've used several Sense as well as AOSP roms. Though I prefer AOSP overall, I did notice that when I used Sense roms, the call quality seemed a bit better / different when using the built-in earpiece (aka non-headset, non-speakerphone).
There was something about it - perhaps I could hear my own voice better through the earpiece, or the person on the other end sounded clearer; I can't adequately describe what it was. I do know that the Dinc2 has multiple mics for sound-cancellation; is this a feature that is present in Sense that didn't make it over to AOSP? Or is the way the sound is processed just different in each?
Also, other features like raising the ringer volume when the phone is in your pocket, or switching to speakerphone automatically when the phone is placed screen down on a surface - is there a particular reason these features were never ported over to AOSP?
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Part of the reason the call quality is different is because of the differences in the two kernels. Some of the AOSP kernels have a lower call volume and others have better call volume. Most of the more recent AOSP kernels have good volumes overall. Im currently running tiamats most recent kernel and my call quality is just as good as sense.
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Advantages of Gingerbread over Froyo?

So I was wondering if anyone could lie out a few points of the differences or advantages between these 2 versions?
I've noticed a lot of GB ROM's are slower and a bit more "heavy" but that may just be due to them just coming out and still having a lot of work to be done with them to optimize them for speed and battery life.
As of now I'm perfectly happy with Froyo and see no reason to switch, but still would like to know what advantages Gingerbread brings to the table.
You need to try cm7.
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With Gingerbread your screen has that awesome on/off animation.
I know gingerbread is supposed to have built-in VOIP calling with Google Voice. Does that work with CM7? If that did, I could totally reduce my calling plan!
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With Gingerbread your screen has that awesome on/off animation.
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and that's it? Lol
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and that's it? Lol
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hah agreed, I guess there isn't a whole lot significant about the gingerbread release, I may be sticking with Froyo for a while if that's the case.
Also I've actually tried out CM7 before (several weeks ago) when it was very first released.
The screen on/off was pretty cool for the first day or so, but it started to bug me after a while and I kinda wished there was a way to disable it.
The VOIP calling with google voice has been available on the incredible for a while now, or at least I thought it had been. I never used it because of what a pain it is to switch back off of google voice, not to mention you are required to have a 3G connection or else you're out of luck and your phone is useless.
There are a lot of optimizations made to the whole android framework form what I gathered reading the android dev blog. They were targetting UI responsiveness which is definitely an issue in android as compared to iOS. I know that all of that is definitely better from my brief play with CM7 but I think it still has a long way to go to be as good as I want it to be. I also kind of like the orange glow that appears when you scroll lists, its a subtle but nice improvement.
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hah agreed, I guess there isn't a whole lot significant about the gingerbread release, I may be sticking with Froyo for a while if that's the case.
Also I've actually tried out CM7 before (several weeks ago) when it was very first released.
The screen on/off was pretty cool for the first day or so, but it started to bug me after a while and I kinda wished there was a way to disable it.
The VOIP calling with google voice has been available on the incredible for a while now, or at least I thought it had been. I never used it because of what a pain it is to switch back off of google voice, not to mention you are required to have a 3G connection or else you're out of luck and your phone is useless.
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I'm not sure how GB roms could feel heavier/slower, especially with CM7. I'd agree with you if you were talking about sense because its a bit bloated.
I'd suggest try CM7 again, RC2 with Chad's latest 37.2 kernel. Give it time to sync up with Google then play around with it. I'm sure you wont be disappointed. Unless you are a super sense fan
P.S. you can turn off the screen animation in CM settings. In the display menu.
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GB is more efficient. I haven't heard that it is slower from anyone except you.
To me Gingerbread tastes better than Froyo
Ill second that
lehalter said:
GB is more efficient. I haven't heard that it is slower from anyone except you.
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Alright I guess I'll be giving CM7 another go, cheers for the feedback.
Only reason why I haven't tried CM7 is no 720p recording, not complaining just stating. Maybe im being a stickler but I like to have all options on the roms I run.
I honestly have noticed any differences in speed or responsiveness. I have tried a few gingerbread roms not sure if its because they are in early stages or not, but so far it doesn't live up to the hype in my book.
If I am posting this, I'm probably pooping.
Is it just me or does CM7 have crazy good sound quality. And the bass is extremely good as well, used dsp manager to boost base and it sounds as close as I have heard to bose (but still not as good as the great bose)
There are some small things that have bothered me with Gingerbread... for example I miss the sense Camera.apk, and of course 720p. But I went back to things such as Sense and MIUI, and I couldn't last 24 hours on them. I was originally between Evervolv and OMGB... then I stuck with OMFGB. CM7 RC2.5 is what I'm running now, and may I say it's pretty amazing. But I am gonna have to try out the new OMGB 1.1.0 build tomorrow though
I guess it's just the overall feel of Gingerbread. Oh, and optimization and web browsing is quite a bit faster I have noticed.'
My $0.02 worth.
titans808 said:
Is it just me or does CM7 have crazy good sound quality. And the bass is extremely good as well, used dsp manager to boost base and it sounds as close as I have heard to bose (but still not as good as the great bose)
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Are you saying the built in phone speaker sounds like BOSE? That I would believe
Anyway is the sound quality via BT and headphone jack actually better? This would be something that might interest me.
I found CM7 to work very well, even better than SkyRaider IMHO, however I LOVE what JuiceDefender does for my battery - and it's not compatible with Gingerbread. As soon as that is released, I will have a semi-tough descision to make.
Scott
Just switched to CM7 from warm Z and loving it (Pandora sounded like garbage). Very responsive to say the least, GB seems to be quite a treat.
BT tends to leave out a lot of bass, but you can help correct it by using DSP manager.
The kernel plays a bit part in this area as well, chad's incredikernel has some audio boosts (especially for the earpiece) that I like. I know the stock earpiece volume was formerly way too low in crowds or even moderately loud situations.

[Q] How is bluetooth working on your ROM?

I have searched, read and googled but don't feel as though I've gotten a solid response because of the rather light usage of Bluetooth with most users talking about it. The reason for posting this is that I've tried multiple ROM's since I got the phone a month ago but have found that the Stock ROM has been not only the least of a hassle but also the most reliable in terms of connecting to the proper devices. The only thing I really use my Bluetooth for is connecting to my car stereo, a Sony, and I've continued to have problems with the ROM's that users have reported stable use and while I know mileage varies, one of the largest issues I've had is maintaining a connection using the various music apps.
Now, I know they've said they're waiting on source and that some have been fixed but I was hoping to find someone who uses the stereo connection as frequently as I do (daily use for my drive to and from work, about 35 minutes each way, as well as normal driving to SF during the weekend). I don't heavily mod my phone nor do I use a ton of apps, my use is pretty much text/phone/music with the occasional youtube video and of course browsing the internet.
Here are the ROM's I've used (eventually returning to stock due to a lack of reliability with Bluetooth):
CM10
CM9
AOKP
Paranoid
Leaked JB \
I've had the most luck with these 2, Bluetooth connection is recognized quickly and super reliable
Stock /
I'm not looking to flame, be flamed or stir up a hornets nest, just looking for input from those who are using the current nightlies because when I flash roms I tend to do full wipes to avoid issues so I'd like to minimize how many times I flash =)
I use freegs3 and Bluetooth works flawlessly.
May be asop thing.
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Speedin07si said:
I use freegs3 and Bluetooth works flawlessly.
May be asop thing.
Sent from Pluto.
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I've never used it before, would you mind naming a couple of things you really like about it?
Since it's tw based you get all the tw features, basically all the main selling points of the phone.
It's smooth, stable, great on battery.
I got tired of aosp and aokp roms having hit or miss functions when I had them on my og epic4g. I feel Samsung did touchwiz right this time.
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I couldn't agree with you more, I was pleasantly surprised at the smoothness of the new TW
I use Stereo Bluetooth running the BlackBean ROM and play my tunes via PowerAmp. It connects fast, never drops, and sounds great. When listening to my Motorola S305 headset, I can go well over 100ft away from my phone with music still playing loud and clear!
justkane said:
I've never used it before, would you mind naming a couple of things you really like about it?
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I use FreeGS as well. I like it because graphically, it is stock (I'm not a fan of the color themes), but under the hood you have lots of tweaks for better battery, accurate reporting of your data connection, etc.
I have no problems with my Bluetooth, either.
I wonder if it IS an AOSP issue, since solo the ROMS you mentioned were AOSP...
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Through radio waves and magic!
You know, honestly I'd never made the connection but you're absolutely right..I actually believe it to be an AOSP issue.
I'm using freegs3 now and it's been absolutely fantastic.
I'll take a look into Blackbean, for now I'll continue testing out freegs3 until I become unsatisfied =P

Call quality of custom ROMs vs Stock

I got my replacement phone (from insurance claim) today and all three callers say that the call quality is much better than usual.
I'm wondering if I had poor call quality on my previous phone because I flash about 2 ROMS a month or because it was dropped a few times.
I planned on rooting and flashing Jedi Jelly today but now I'm not too sure.
If I'm being too paranoid just call me out but i want to be cautious.
Could have been hardware or software related. The best way to get a for sure answer is to make a backup and flash a rom. If you get bad results, restore the backup.
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I also got a replacement phone today in the mail and I have noticed that the manufature date is january 2013! which means the phones are very new. Mine is made in china, its possible that the parts they are using now are the same model but maybe something is different inside. The factory probably uses whatever parts are available and i too have notice a much better gps signal indoors so maybe now the s2 has some newer guts.
where is the manufacture date located?
roms!!!!!!! especially on jelly bean ports "whenever i go back to stock i notice better call quality "
It's underneath the battery. It has the month and year
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Thru my experience, I had echo problems on the majority of custom roms... especially jb roms. After about 5 months of flashing just about every rom, I went back to an ics rom (infamous to be exact) and have had no problems since. At one point I went back to stock unrooted and experienced no call issues and amazing battery life. Infamous has done exactly the same thing for me that's why I'm sticking to it.
Btw, I'm not knocking on any of the devs here as their work has always been greatly appreciated so hopefully I didn't offend anyone.
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GregL said:
roms!!!!!!! especially on jelly bean ports "whenever i go back to stock i notice better call quality "
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Skyrocket-based kernels do not work well. AOSP/CM-based ROMs all have problems with SGS2 talker quality, far-end listener echo, or both. AOSP/CM kernels that use H0tcakez, kko, or ASDK kernels fix the echo problem. The SGS2 talker quality problem can be fixed by setting Phone -> Settings, "Noise Suppression" to ENABLE. After setting Noise Suppression, you may have to reboot if your ROM settings don't seem to stick. While there definitely has been progress, there is more work to be done.
poor call quality
Issue: poor call quality (muffled, cloudy, foggy) after I flashed my phone from ICS (4.0.4) to JB (4.1 or higher). The original ROM that came with the phone had the best quality.
Attempted:
Flashing: ATT-SGH-I727-UCLL3-STOCK-odexed-cwm.zip :: worst quality, cm-10.0.0-skyrocket.zip :: bad quality, cm-10.1-20130221-NIGHTLY-skyrocket.zip :: bad quality, ATT-UCLF6-cwm5.zip :: OK quality, ATT-UCLI3-odexed-cwm.zip :: OK quality, I727-UCLF6-071212.zip :: worst quality. I wiped the cache, and data. I even wiped the dalvik cache. Other times I did not with the same ROM.
Radios: I tried different Radios (UCLI3 & UCLF6) and did not notice a difference in call quality. Even with the original ROM was loaded, I flashed the Radio (UCLI3 & UCLF6) and not notice a difference. I believe the Radios are not related to the call quality. Is this true or am I missing something?
Settings: I disabled noise suppression, in the versions that supported that feature, which made the quality better but not as good as the original. I also disabled the extra volume feature, in the versions that support that feature, and that also made the quality better but not as good as the original.
Info: I have a Samsung S II Skyrocket (SGH-I727) and use AT&T. The signal strength seems consistent no matter the ROM is loaded.
Currently, besides my original ROM – which is the best call quality, the ATT-UCLF6-cwm5.zip & ATT-UCLI3-odexed-cwm.zip have the best call quality. Can anyone recommend an Android 4.2.x ROM that may have the best radios and/or kernel to alleviate this issue?
Thank you!
Great post! I was going to start flashing today but after seeing this thread I'm going to hold off until the official Jelly Bean from Koodo or Telus. I thought that all ROMs would interact with hardware in the same way! I enjoy the call quality I currently have clear and crisp. Thanks All!
Could it be an issue within the kernel not the radio?
telecom2k3 said:
Skyrocket-based kernels do not work well. AOSP/CM-based ROMs all have problems with SGS2 talker quality, far-end listener echo, or both. AOSP/CM kernels that use H0tcakez, kko, or ASDK kernels fix the echo problem. The SGS2 talker quality problem can be fixed by setting Phone -> Settings, "Noise Suppression" to ENABLE. After setting Noise Suppression, you may have to reboot if your ROM settings don't seem to stick. While there definitely has been progress, there is more work to be done.
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Mahashwar said:
Issue:
Settings: I disabled noise suppression, in the versions that supported that feature, which made the quality better but not as good as the original. I also disabled the extra volume feature, in the versions that support that feature, and that also made the quality better but not as good as the original.
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After upping to P.A.C. 's 4.2.2 I wa told by someone (who I could hear perfectly" that they were having a hard time understanding me.
Noise Suppression was ENABLED, trying it disabled now.
Having searched around, and read this thread (thus the quotes) I've realized that advice can vary a fair bit! haha.
Well see what happens.
Not about to go back down to that old school ICS Telus is offering here in Canada. Took ages just for that and doesn't look like anything else is coming anytime soon.
EDIT: Noise Suppression was ENABLED by default. I disabled, called a friend and was told it sounded bad. RE-ENABLED and called back, was told it sounded good. Reboots in between each change/call.
Even if enabled maybe switch of, reboot, switch on and reboot?? Worth a shot anyways.
EDIT: Noise Suppression was ENABLED by default. I disabled, called a friend and was told it sounded bad. RE-ENABLED and called back, was told it sounded good. Reboots in between each change/call.
Even if enabled maybe switch of, reboot, switch on and reboot?? Worth a shot anyways.[/QUOTE]
hmm I'll try this then post if working with me as well
ok the call quality is much better,I disabled the noise suppression then re-enabled like you did with reboots every time,I'll testing with other calls i hope problem solved because i love my AAMOD rom the only thing i changed was the radio from t989UVLI1 to T989UVLI4
I'm glad I searched for this thread and found people with similar issues. I rarely carry on long phone conversations, but when I do, I'd prefer the other person not have to strain to hear me. The call quality issue that I run into the most is "you sound distant/quiet" and people generally asking me to speak up when I'm already talking awkwardly loud to try and appease the issue. An iteration of this call problem has been persistent for me in every ROM/Kernel combo since 4.1.2 build bases. Heck even CM10.00 stable had problems for me. Some people say the Cerux Kernel helps but I've yet to see that ring true. I've tried the enabling/disabling noise suppression, with reboots, and still the problem exists.
I hate to switch from a solid build strictly because of call quality issues, but it is extremely annoying having to repeat myself or speak really loud for someone to hear me.
Hopefully this gets more attention and resolutions in the near future as I'd REALLY hate to go all the way back to an ICS based build. Too many new features I've grown accustomed to.
idk if it was just me but my calls have always been choppy on stock rom.
Currently using Embryo 6.8, stock radio on Koodo, incoming calls are crisp and clear, no complaints on the other end, usually a landline or Rogers phone. Usually the second question I ask the receiver, do I sound clear...always yes.
Consistent call quality complaints with 2 GS2's...
I got a second t989 thinking my phone was messed up. Rooted the second newer model and it's got the same call quality complaints. I could deal with just about any issue not working except call quality. Can't believe this isn't fixed yet.
I'm also speaking of 10.0, not 10.1.
I just don't have the stomach to flash radios and kernels etc to find a fix. Hopefully a stable 10.1 will fix the issue.
Running S2 I9100
Since in the section specific for my phone, isn't a good thread like this (didnt find it, if it exists), I'm posting here.
Got the same issue. Running CM10.1.3 on my I9100. I was trying different radio's, but no improvement in call quality.
Trying different Kernels.
using Embryo 6.8
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On which Kernel are you? Maybe I can find one of the same developer, for my phone.

Call quality on aosp roms

Is it just me or does the call quality seem to be lower on aosp roms? I have ran a couple and it seemed the same for them both, as compared to touch wiz?
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I felt the same way when I switched from stock TW to CM10.1. I'm curious to hear if others feel the same way.
Well, the thing is they're based on versions of Android that are not yet available for this phone. So the developers are creating functionality from scratch is some cases.
I believe it is a bit unfair to compare a Sprint overlay (TW) that has a monster development team being paid to developers who give their free time to offer users a taste of something that may never be offered by Sprint.
There is no need to create a thread like this, if you don't want to run it. Don't ... move on to another ROM.
Just say'n

[Q] Advice or opinions on recording audio/video?

So it's been 4 months now and I still have not found a solution to this mic issue. Here is a video I recorded lastnight at a club. You can hear the tinny-ness and the distortion breaking up. Iknow Iknow......I KNOW, "It's a phone, what do you expect"? But I've been spoiled with my last Samsung Galaxy S4G, with Voodoo Sound on board .It allowed me to adjust the recording level. It seems like everytime I ask about Voodoo Sound being available for our phone, people assume it's because I want the audio OUT features, but actually I want the mic preset controls. Supposedly irig was coming to android at the begining of this month, but it's 24 days late, so far
I don't see much mention of the mic issue on xda, so maybe no one cares. But I figured I'd ask if anyone has a solution thus far... or any roms with it ported... or kernels that are compatible?
Thanks everyone!
http://youtu.be/ufYu7wpj_b8
PS. I don't know this band,,, it's not selfless promotion
There are a few ROMs that have voodoo compatibility. I know vanilla rootbox does, its AOSP, in the AT&T section. Tweaked might be adding it in the near future as well. Tweaked is TW based and an incredible ROM.
TWEAKED 1.4™
Thanks! I searched for tweaked but I'm coming up with a lot of threads. Do you have the link?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2109229
There you go. Enjoy.
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