[Help][UPDATE2]CWM and returning to stock - Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everyone at XDA.
I currently have Cyanogenmod 7.2 on my Xperia Play. I used CWM to install Cyanogenmod. I installed CWM using the apk here. My Xperia Play is an r800a with unlocked bootloader.
I have 3 questions left to answer.
1.If I want to return to factory condition do I just flash the original .ftf file? Will this cause any problems to CWM? Will having CM7 then flashing a stock .ftf possibly cause any problems?
2.The thread that shows how to install CWM has a warning that says
Do NOT use this recovery if you are not in Stock 2.3 firmware.
Well right now I am on CM7.2 can I still use this recovery if I want to flash other roms like miui? What does this warning mean?
Here is the thread
3. Also if I need to is there anyway to remove CWM?
Thanks so much for any help.

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I know bumping is wrong but I made this into a new question and rather than posting a new message I edited it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

when u flash stock rom it should wipe everything - even recovery (im not sure). Flashing ftf file should give u phone like u had when u got it (but with unlocked bootloader if u did it)

ch3mn3y said:
when u flash stock rom it should wipe everything - even recovery (im not sure). Flashing ftf file should give u phone like u had when u got it (but with unlocked bootloader if u did it)
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But won't already having CM7.2 cause any problems? Also won't have a custom kernel cause any problems?

when u flash stock rom ftf it overwrite kernel using stock contained in ftf file (kernel.sin)

RacecarBMW said:
But won't already having CM7.2 cause any problems? Also won't have a custom kernel cause any problems?
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No. Flashing the ftf will wipe all traces of the custom kernel and any custom rom. It's like doing a factory refresh.
Sent from my R800x using XDA

Ok that's good to know. What about getting rid of CWM?

RacecarBMW said:
But won't already having CM7.2 cause any problems? Also won't have a custom kernel cause any problems?
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Most Custom Kernels have Recovery In Built, Installing that Recovery wil cancel the Other one out No Value in That app If you have Custom Kernel

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[Q] Installed cm9...not able to restore gingerbread..plz help

I am on Xperia Arc with unlocked bootloader, with CM 9.0 & CWM Recovery 5.
Before flashing to CM 9.0, I made full backup of my stock ROM through CWM Recovery.
Now I want to go back to my original firmware (i.e. 4.0.2.A.0.42).
When I try to restore backup from within CWM recovery, my phones is stuck at boot after free-xperia logo. Only black screen with nothing on it.
Someone please help me, how can I restore my backup of stock ROM.
i want my phone as it originally came....
plz help....
thanks in advance..
hero199122 said:
I am on Xperia Arc with unlocked bootloader, with CM 9.0 & CWM Recovery 5.
Before flashing to CM 9.0, I made full backup of my stock ROM through CWM Recovery.
Now I want to go back to my original firmware (i.e. 4.0.2.A.0.42).
When I try to restore backup from within CWM recovery, my phones is stuck at boot after free-xperia logo. Only black screen with nothing on it.
Someone please help me, how can I restore my backup of stock ROM.
i want my phone as it originally came....
plz help....
thanks in advance..
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You must flash the compatible kernel for that firmware
Doomlord's kernel for stock rom for example.
As you mentioned, you already restored the GB stock rom; you only need the proper kernel now for it to boot properly.
FXP kernel works for CM only.
hero199122 said:
I am on Xperia Arc with unlocked bootloader, with CM 9.0 & CWM Recovery 5.
Before flashing to CM 9.0, I made full backup of my stock ROM through CWM Recovery.
Now I want to go back to my original firmware (i.e. 4.0.2.A.0.42).
When I try to restore backup from within CWM recovery, my phones is stuck at boot after free-xperia logo. Only black screen with nothing on it.
Someone please help me, how can I restore my backup of stock ROM.
i want my phone as it originally came....
plz help....
thanks in advance..
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You must first flash .42 firmware and then install CWM or doomkernel(it comes with pre-installed CWM) and then perform the restore
tryed SEUS?
I also wanted to restore my GB Rom, but I got an md5 mismatch Gosh I hate when that happens
thanksss
thankss a lot guys....
m using my original os now...
wanted to know one more thing...
if i hav to remove doomkernel from my phone..so that is would start as it orginaly came..and have to relock it...what should i do...???
what link did you use for .42 FW?
all the ones i find are dead!
yo-meister said:
what link did you use for .42 FW?
all the ones i find are dead!
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follow this link...
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo....A.0.42)</b>&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13261245541301
download boot.img file...
fastboot it...
you will get the doomkernel...
yo-meister said:
what link did you use for .42 FW?
all the ones i find are dead!
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He had the backup I guess.
hero199122 said:
thankss a lot guys....
m using my original os now...
wanted to know one more thing...
if i hav to remove doomkernel from my phone..so that is would start as it orginaly came..and have to relock it...what should i do...???
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There is no need to relock the bootloader.Just flash the firmware and you'll get back to original kernel and the doomkernel well be gone
hero199122 said:
thankss a lot guys....
m using my original os now...
wanted to know one more thing...
if i hav to remove doomkernel from my phone..so that is would start as it orginaly came..and have to relock it...what should i do...???
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You may try to relock your bootloader, use SEUS to flash the phone. There's an option in SEUS that you can select and it will not wipe your data.
OR
Extract the kernel.sin from an ftf and flash it via fastboot, then you can return to your original kernel

Some questions i will bomb if i didn't get the answers!!

Hi:
this is some questions that i searched so much without answer!!
1- We know that one of the mothod for root , is to flash custom kernel that have auto rooted before.
So if that was right , when we flash a stock kernel by flashtool , the recovery and the root must gone is that right?
If you said that is righ i will say that some of the other methods of root is to flash old kernel , then root the device , then flash new stock kernel.
So if the root was in the kernel it have to done but it still in the device. How is that?
2- I have talked about the method for root by flash old kernel then root then flash new kernel.
Why this method work for some versions and don't work with others?​
Are you drunk or on medication right now?
Sent from my Nexus 7
warface said:
Are you drunk or on medication right now?
Sent from my Nexus 7
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hhhhhhhh maybe i am Why you asking?​
The $niper said:
hhhhhhhh maybe i am Why you asking?​
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Because, A) your post doesn't make any sense and B) don't write in dark blue. It is horrible to read on Tapatalk with black background.
Sent from my LT26i using Tapatalk
I think..... The answer you're looking for is....
Because once rooted the root access is in the system so flashing kernel only doesn't affect the system files
Sent from my Jellybean Xperia S
Ben36 said:
I think..... The answer you're looking for is....
Because once rooted the root access is in the system so flashing kernel only doesn't affect the system files
Sent from my Jellybean Xperia S
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Aha thanks , another question:
After i installed a CWM by flash kernel , i flashed the kernel.sin by flashtool but the recovery still there!
I think that the CWM must gone after flashing stock kernel!​
Felimenta97 said:
Because, A) your post doesn't make any sense and B) don't write in dark blue. It is horrible to read on Tapatalk with black background.
Sent from my LT26i using Tapatalk
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A) i think this is the Q&A forum and it's for noob members that they can ask what they want. B) Sorry for that , i wan't know that taptalk habe a dark background.​
The $niper said:
Aha thanks , another question:
After i installed a CWM by flash kernel , i flashed the kernel.sin by flashtool but the recovery still there!
I think that the CWM must gone after flashing stock kernel!​
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yes. but you can get it back by flashing the cwm for locked bootloaders.
mharckk said:
yes. but you can get it back by flashing the cwm for locked bootloaders.
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No , what i mean that after flashing stock kernel the cwm didn't gone , why?​
The $niper said:
No , what i mean that after flashing stock kernel the cwm didn't gone , why?​
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If you flashed a .sin file then your bootloader is unlocked. That means your probably using a custom kernel. It may just be stock kernel but still a custom one.
Some stock kernels not made by Sony have CWM built into kernel.
For a Sony stock kernel you can find one in your stock ftf file. Also there may already be one made, just search.
From Jaramie's LT28at
2012Xperia SOFT-BRICK Recovery Thread
ToledoJab said:
If you flashed a .sin file then your bootloader is unlocked. That means your probably using a custom kernel. It may just be stock kernel but still a custom one.
Some stock kernels not made by Sony have CWM built into kernel.
For a Sony stock kernel you can find one in your stock ftf file. Also there may already be one made, just search.
From Jaramie's LT28at
2012Xperia SOFT-BRICK Recovery Thread
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Yes i have unlocked bootloader , i have installed custom kernel that already have CWM , then i had flashed a rom by flash tool by remove all files over just the kernel.sin i didn't removed it so i have to be on stock kernel after flash that kernel.sin right?
I have flashed it but my phone stay have CWM whyyyyyyy?
the problem is i want to know how to delete the cwm that i was thinking it can be deleted by flash stock kernel but it dodn't gone.​
The $niper said:
Yes i have unlocked bootloader , i have installed custom kernel that already have CWM , then i had flashed a rom by flash tool by remove all files over just the kernel.sin i didn't removed it so i have to be on stock kernel after flash that kernel.sin right?
I have flashed it but my phone stay have CWM whyyyyyyy?
the problem is i want to know how to delete the cwm that i was thinking it can be deleted by flash stock kernel but it dodn't gone.​
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Follow the link in my signature to my recovery thread. In the OP you will find a section on preparing flashtool. Download your phones stock ftf file and flash it using wipe everything & exclude nothing. That will give you stock Sony kernel and firmware.
From Jaramie's LT28at
2012Xperia SOFT-BRICK Recovery Thread
ToledoJab said:
Follow the link in my signature to my recovery thread. In the OP you will find a section on preparing flashtool. Download your phones stock ftf file and flash it using wipe everything & exclude nothing. That will give you stock Sony kernel and firmware.
From Jaramie's LT28at
2012Xperia SOFT-BRICK Recovery Thread
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Thanks for help , i know that and when i flash a stock rom with all files the recovery gone.
but if i flash only kernel the CWM don't gone why? I was think that recovery files is all in the only kernel file.​
The $niper said:
Thanks for help , i know that and when i flash a stock rom with all files the recovery gone.
but if i flash only kernel the CWM don't gone why? I was think that recovery files is all in the only kernel file.​
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Cwm can be located in both Rom or kernel. For my locked Ion it is added to Rom. For my unlocked X10 it's in kernels.
Do you want just the stock kernel? Or are you just seeking knowledge?
~Jaramie
still from my X10S
ToledoJab said:
Cwm can be located in both Rom or kernel. For my locked Ion it is added to Rom. For my unlocked X10 it's in kernels.
Do you want just the stock kernel? Or are you just seeking knowledge?
~Jaramie
still from my X10S
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So you mean that my kernel located in the rom files because i flashed a stock kernel but it didn't gone right?
I have stock 6.1.A.2.55 kernel with the rom ftf file i don't need it , but what is "seeking knowledge"? Sorry i am bad in english
The $niper said:
So you mean that my kernel located in the rom files because i flashed a stock kernel but it didn't gone right?
I have stock 6.1.A.2.55 kernel with the rom ftf file i don't need it , but what is "seeking knowledge"? Sorry i am bad in english
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I am just wondering what you are trying to do? It will make it easier for me to help you.
Do you need to get cwm off your phone?
Are you asking why something already happened?
Are you trying to learn how to do something?
I understand our language troubles. I will try to be clear with my help, if I can
From Jaramie's LT28at
2012Xperia SOFT-BRICK Recovery Thread
ToledoJab said:
I am just wondering what you are trying to do? It will make it easier for me to help you.
Do you need to get cwm off your phone?
Are you asking why something already happened?
Are you trying to learn how to do something?
I understand our language troubles. I will try to be clear with my help, if I can
From Jaramie's LT28at
2012Xperia SOFT-BRICK Recovery Thread
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Hhhhh sorry for that.
Now i got what i want , all the issue that i want an explenation for why CWM didn't gone after flashing stock kernel , and your answer is that the CWM files is located in the rom fines not the kernel.
Thaaaank you so much for helping me.​

ftf with root and cwm

hello every body
is there a .ftf file with root and cwm in it ?
i need it because every time i try a rom and have a no boot i need to flash a stock rom and root it and install cwm w then i can try again with another rom so is there a prerooted ftf file with cwm preinstalled ?? or is there a shorter way ??
sorry about my bad english (it is not my first language)
AW: ftf with root and cwm
ash-ta said:
hello every body
is there a .ftf file with root and cwm in it ?
i need it because every time i try a rom and have a no boot i need to flash a stock rom and root it and install cwm w then i can try again with another rom so is there a prerooted ftf file with cwm preinstalled ?? or is there a shorter way ??
sorry about my bad english (it is not my first language)
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that was also my first question on xda, good old times...
No, it's not possible, ftf. files can only be made by Sony, so you've got to do always the same prodecure for flashing, rooting,....
Sent from my LT18i using xda app-developers app
Master of Bisaster said:
that was also my first question on xda, good old times...
No, it's not possible, ftf. files can only be made by Sony, so you've got to do always the same prodecure for flashing, rooting,....
Sent from my LT18i using xda app-developers app
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thank you so much for your answer
so i think i will keep doing that long thing again and again
That's a really tedious procedure you're following. When I try a custom ROM and don't like it, all I do is:
1) If switching between an ICS ROM and a JB ROM and vice versa, reflash the kernel, then reflash the ROM.
2) If moving from one ICS ROM to another, or one JB ROM to another, just reflash the ROM.
3) If moving from ICS/JB to GB or vice versa, flash the stock ROM, flash the kernel, and then flash the custom ROM.
You don't need to keep on flashing the stock ROM, rooting it, installing CWM, then installing the custom ROM. Kernels, as far as I know, usually come with recovery installed. If you're in a bootloop, just follow the pertinent steps from the list outlined above.
MarcSinger said:
That's a really tedious procedure you're following. When I try a custom ROM and don't like it, all I do is:
1) If switching between an ICS ROM and a JB ROM and vice versa, reflash the kernel, then reflash the ROM.
2) If moving from one ICS ROM to another, or one JB ROM to another, just reflash the ROM.
3) If moving from ICS/JB to GB or vice versa, flash the stock ROM, flash the kernel, and then flash the custom ROM.
You don't need to keep on flashing the stock ROM, rooting it, installing CWM, then installing the custom ROM. Kernels, as far as I know, usually come with recovery installed. If you're in a bootloop, just follow the pertinent steps from the list outlined above.
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that is rghit but the problem is i need the cwm for flashing the new rom and i have no boot (just sony logo) i cant enter the cwm so i find that i need to reinstall the cwm and try again
if i say any thing wrong please correct it to me maybe you teach me some thing that is new to me
ash-ta said:
maybe you teach me some thing that is new to me
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Go read the stickys, get some basic knowledge and learn something for yourself, then ask questions about what you don't fully understand, on an existing thread that you found while Googling.
bootloader locked or unlocked because it sounds like you have a locked bootloader, if it is unlocked then why dont you flash a kernel eg. kernel rush with CWM already on it ?
ash-ta said:
that is rghit but the problem is i need the cwm for flashing the new rom and i have no boot (just sony logo) i cant enter the cwm so i find that i need to reinstall the cwm and try again
if i say any thing wrong please correct it to me maybe you teach me some thing that is new to me
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You don't need to install CWM again, even if you're in a boot loop. Once the phone reboots, keep pressing the "down" volume rocker, as you always do, and you'll enter into recovery. If you're moving to a different Android version (for example, ICS to JB), switch off your phone and flash the appropriate kernel. Then all you need to do is reflash your previous ROM or flash any other ROM that you want. However, that's only possible if you've download your previous and/or other ROMs onto your SD card, too. Do you do that before you flash?
I don't have any experience with locked bootloaders, but the user above IS of the opinion that you might be on one. If that's the reason you're having to go through so many steps to flash a ROM, why don't you try unlocking the bootloader of your phone? I'm more than certain your phone's not covered under warranty anymore, and unlocking the bootloader is definitely not going to fry your phone or anything of the sort.

[Q] Trying to install Xperia Play Z final version, very confused. (r800a)

Hey guys, as the post title says, I'm trying to install the xperia play z rom, and I'm hitting a lot of road blocks. First one is, I don't even know if my phone's bootloader is unlocked! I'm pretty sure it is, because I thought all r800a's came with an unlocked bootloader, and I also used the flashtool, unlock bootloader tool, and it said it was already unlocked.
So, naturally what I do, is I flash the firmware in the guide (located here - http://www.android-hilfe.de/root-cu...a-play/417392-rom-xperia-play-z-v1-1-0-a.html), and after that I want to root it so I can install a recovery. But when I try to root it, it always fails on part 1. So I tried to install cyanogenmod recovery without it. But after the apk is installed, i'm not able to install the actual recovery because it is not rooted.
My main problem with the guide is that it says to just boot into clockworkmod recovery, but I don't know how to. I turn on the phone and press the up button, but without installing the CWM/X-parts recovery, there's no way I can expect it to come up.
Any help please? I'm totally lost here. I know how to get roms that are based on gingerbread, but for some reason, Ics/Jellybean roms don't work at all, and I don't know if it is whether because my phones bootloader isn't unlocked (even though it says it is), or it's something else, like me missing a tutorial specifically for ics/jellybean roms.
Thanks in advance.
fishvtt said:
Hey guys, as the post title says, I'm trying to install the xperia play z rom, and I'm hitting a lot of road blocks. First one is, I don't even know if my phone's bootloader is unlocked! I'm pretty sure it is, because I thought all r800a's came with an unlocked bootloader, and I also used the flashtool, unlock bootloader tool, and it said it was already unlocked.
So, naturally what I do, is I flash the firmware in the guide (located here - http://www.android-hilfe.de/root-cu...a-play/417392-rom-xperia-play-z-v1-1-0-a.html), and after that I want to root it so I can install a recovery. But when I try to root it, it always fails on part 1. So I tried to install cyanogenmod recovery without it. But after the apk is installed, i'm not able to install the actual recovery because it is not rooted.
My main problem with the guide is that it says to just boot into clockworkmod recovery, but I don't know how to. I turn on the phone and press the up button, but without installing the CWM/X-parts recovery, there's no way I can expect it to come up.
Any help please? I'm totally lost here. I know how to get roms that are based on gingerbread, but for some reason, Ics/Jellybean roms don't work at all, and I don't know if it is whether because my phones bootloader isn't unlocked (even though it says it is), or it's something else, like me missing a tutorial specifically for ics/jellybean roms.
Thanks in advance.
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Well you have to flash an ICS kernel first and it will already have a cwm recovery in it. Then you can just boot to recovery and flash the rom
Sent from my Xperia Play (r800x)
abdel12345 said:
Well you have to flash an ICS kernel first and it will already have a cwm recovery in it. Then you can just boot to recovery and flash the rom
Sent from my Xperia Play (r800x)
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OHHHHHHHHH. Thank you so much. But how am I supposed to flash the boot.img for the modified doomkernel v3, which it says it includes in the guide? Am I supposed to extract it from the rom zip or something? Thanks again.
fishvtt said:
OHHHHHHHHH. Thank you so much. But how am I supposed to flash the boot.img for the modified doomkernel v3, which it says it includes in the guide? Am I supposed to extract it from the rom zip or something? Thanks again.
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yes, boot.img is inside the zip. Unpack just that file and flash it with flashtool (in fastboot mode). But you must have unlocked bootloader to be able to flash any custom kernel
Bakisha said:
yes, boot.img is inside the zip. Unpack just that file and flash it with flashtool (in fastboot mode). But you must have unlocked bootloader to be able to flash any custom kernel
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Alright. Thank you so much. So that's what I was missing.
Bakisha said:
yes, boot.img is inside the zip. Unpack just that file and flash it with flashtool (in fastboot mode). But you must have unlocked bootloader to be able to flash any custom kernel
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Sorry, another question. What happens is that when I try to flash an ics kernel, it goes into an infinite bootloop, but when I flash a gingerbread kernel, it works fine. Is this a sign of a locked bootloader? Cause I thought you wouldn't be able to install any kernels if it was locked.
fishvtt said:
Sorry, another question. What happens is that when I try to flash an ics kernel, it goes into an infinite bootloop, but when I flash a gingerbread kernel, it works fine. Is this a sign of a locked bootloader? Cause I thought you wouldn't be able to install any kernels if it was locked.
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If you flash ics kernel, you won't be able to boot your old gb rom. Ics kernel only boot into ics rom.
When you flash ics kernel, go to recovery and install ics rom.
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Bakisha said:
If you flash ics kernel, you won't be able to boot your old gb rom. Ics kernel only boot into ics rom.
When you flash ics kernel, go to recovery and install ics rom.
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Thank you so much. Worked like a charm.
For future readers -
a. The r800a indeed does come with bootloader unlocked
b. It is normal for the phone to bootloop, Just go into recovery like normal and install the rom .zip. (It's usually tapping back while starting the phone, but if that doesn't work, try up volume or down volume)

Can't install Custom ROM

Hi i just got an arc form my friend to play with it & i am not noob with all this.
my problem is after installing custom roms like "Iridescent_Zed_III" & The Awesome™ ROM phone either boots up with FCs or just
stays bootlooping.
So i checked the system partition space and its less that the required by rom, so what can i do to increase the size of /system?
there should be a way as people are enjoying those roms w/o problem, so please tell me what can i do?
piousheart said:
Hi i just got an arc form my friend to play with it & i am not noob with all this.
my problem is after installing custom roms like "Iridescent_Zed_III" & The Awesome™ ROM phone either boots up with FCs or just
stays bootlooping.
So i checked the system partition space and its less that the required by rom, so what can i do to increase the size of /system?
there should be a way as people are enjoying those roms w/o problem, so please tell me what can i do?
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Flash ARC S stock ics ftf with flashtool..
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Attitude.SSJ said:
Flash ARC S stock ics ftf with flashtool..
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what if i want to use the custom kernel
piousheart said:
what if i want to use the custom kernel
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First flash Arc S stock ICS firmware, then flash custom kernel and then the ROM.
if you have any problem , just use Sony flash tool EMMA, and always you need to flash kernel from custom ROM, it`s the boot.img inside the zip file the ROM , and then installit from the sd card, if you dont probably you`ll stuck i n boot loop.

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