Firstly, I apologize if this question has been asked a 1000 times before. Unfortunately I couldn't find such a thread when I went through the forums, probably because this is a slightly old device and such questions most likely were asked WAY back in 2011, I guess.
I am currently a Motorola Droid X2 owner. After putting up with Motorola and its equally crappy phone for months, I finally convinced the VZW customer care rep to give me a different phone and I chose the Dinc2, which will arrive at my home on Monday. I do believe that the Dinc2 is BETTER than the DX2 in almost every aspect: has an unlockable Bootloader, is guaranteed to get ICS from HTC eventually and has a boot load of awesome custom ROMs! If you head over to the DX2 community, compared to this, it may feel like a ghost town! (The only active dev is busy with school and has no time, so the dev section has hardly gotten any news for the last 2-3 months!!! ) Plus my DX2 is plagued with issues.
In this regard, I would like to know if any of you have any knowledgeable opinions on whether the Dinc2 is indeed better than the DX2. Secondly, what are the major issues people are facing with this phone? My DX2 has at least 6-7 major issues.
Now, I would like to know:
1. How easy is rooting on this phone? Is there a tutorial? Is it reversible?
2. How easy is it to achieve S-OFF? Is it reversible?
3. I have not read anything about unlocking bootloaders to be a requirement to install any ROM. Is it necessary to unlock the BL to install ICS/CM9/MIUI ROMs? Is it reversible?
4. My most important query is can I revert back to 100% stock (i.e. unrooted, S-ON and locked bootloader, if I had to unlock it in the first place) in case I am not satisfied with the phone and want a different Dinc2 or may be a different device?
Thank you all for your help! Kindly do reply to this thread and answer as many of my questions as you can!!
Looking forward to enjoy my Dinc2 and be a part of this community!
Cheers! \m/
Welcome to the Incredible 2 Community!
1 & 2) I rooted mine in an hour. This includes the research I did to know how to do it (Google 'Revolutionary Incredible 2'). I did S-Off, cause I don't see the point of rooting if someone leaves S-On. It is entirely reversible. I have also done that.
3) When you root your phone, you are unlocking your bootloader. That is why you can flash ROMs and the like. It's been recommended not to use HTC's unlocker, as you are telling HTC that you did it. That is up to you, but you will still have S-On.
4) Same question as 1 & 2? Yes. I have done it.
HTC > Motorola every time.
Quick word of advice: I guarantee you that all these questions are on the internet. Try to search better. Help us keep these forums clean of redundant posts. Again, Welcome to the Incredible 2 Community.
The Horak said:
Welcome to the Incredible 2 Community!
1 & 2) I rooted mine in an hour. This includes the research I did to know how to do it (Google 'Revolutionary Incredible 2'). I did S-Off, cause I don't see the point of rooting if someone leaves S-On. It is entirely reversible. I have also done that.
3) When you root your phone, you are unlocking your bootloader. That is why you can flash ROMs and the like. It's been recommended not to use HTC's unlocker, as you are telling HTC that you did it. That is up to you, but you will still have S-On.
4) Same question as 1 & 2? Yes. I have done it.
HTC > Motorola every time.
Quick word of advice: I guarantee you that all these questions are on the internet. Try to search better. Help us keep these forums clean of redundant posts. Again, Welcome to the Incredible 2 Community.
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Thanks a lot! And I am soooo sorry for cluttering up the forum. I know how that feels (The transformer prime forum, for instance, is cluttered with people complaining about the same thing and/or posting the same info, news or problems!)
Glad to know that rooting is very easy and also glad to know that achieving S-OFF is also easy and super glad to know that both these are reversible. Also happy to know that it is unnecessary to use HTC's unlock method and tell them that you unlocked the phone!
I am very excited to be getting this phone! So looking forward to Monday and finally having a good phone!
Cheers \m/
Welcome aboard, I think you'll find this is a pretty helpful group here.
Pretty much any and all of your questions have been compiled into this thread Click me.
Take a look around the dev forum for roms. Bunch of good stuff in there
1. How easy is rooting on this phone? Is there a tutorial? Is it reversible?
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Yes. My nephew had to get a replacement Dinc2 and it only took 10 minutes to downgrade and s-off. I would be surprised that you wouldn't have .98 bootloader. Anyways, its easy.
2. How easy is it to achieve S-OFF? Is it reversible?
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Yes and Yes, but isn't for the faint of heart.
3. I have not read anything about unlocking bootloaders to be a requirement to install any ROM. Is it necessary to unlock the BL to install ICS/CM9/MIUI ROMs? Is it reversible?
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Since the Dinc2 is s-off, I wouldn't recommend anything else. HTCdev unlock tool is useless because we have s-off and ROM flashes are very easy.
4. My most important query is can I revert back to 100% stock (i.e. unrooted, S-ON and locked bootloader, if I had to unlock it in the first place) in case I am not satisfied with the phone and want a different Dinc2 or may be a different device?
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Kind of already answered this question. Re-locking the bootloader will include the latest RUU.
I've got a bunch of guides down in my sig. Looks like the others have answered your q's.
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Hi all...
After waiting ages for the official HTC GB update and being totally let down I have decided to bite the bullet and get a custom rom on my Desire.
However the custom rom for n00bs guide still seems scarily complex with so many different steps to complete.
So my question is this - does anyone know anywhere in London (ideally in Wandsworth or the City of London) where I can pay to get the latest version of Leedroid installed for me? I know there are places that can unlock your sim or repair your cracked screen so surely there must be places that will root your device and install your rom of choice.
Thanks in advance
CB.
It might look scary at first but trust me it's not, after you flash few ROM's you will change them weekly lol.
Take a look on those video tutorials: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
I'm sure someone local to you could help you do it, if you really don't fancy following the guide, in exchange for a few beverages or something. I'm not local tho
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Smithyster said:
I'm sure someone local to you could help you do it, if you really don't fancy following the guide, in exchange for a few beverages or something. I'm not local tho
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That would also work... more than happy to spring for a few beers if someone was willing to help me out.
Lol I'm in London W5 if you're that desperate
Ship your phone to me, along with 50 quid and a stamped, self-addressed return envelope, and I'll be happy to help!
Otherwise...many, many folks have gone thru the procedure (even total techno-phobes like myself!!) and come thru without dramas. And if you do the job yourself, you will know what to do if/when you decide to flash other ROMs in future...save forking out every time you want to update.
Yeah seriously, if you still find this all confusing, I'm sure someone would be willing to take you through step by step, or further explain those guides.. You can PM me and I'd be willing to help.
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You should really do it yourself, in case you will have update it in the future...
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Lol I'm in London W5 if you're that desperate
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Where would be easy for you to get to? Ealing Broadway is quite easy for me, pehaps one weekend or one evening after work. I have a netbook I can bring and I'd obviously pay you for your trouble.
I didn't have a clue how to root my Desire, but on monday after the whole bit about the HTC GB release I decided to give it a try.
Took me a while, but I followed the instructions carefully and now have a great Desire running GingerVillain 2.7.
Seriously, follow the guide given and you should have no problems.
I'm not a techno whizz but even I managed it.
cha cha
Sorry for bumping an old thread, but is there anyone in London preferably North or maybe East who could help me with this?
My better half has a cha cha which has the usual woes and I gather I need an XTC clip to gain s-off and install a custom rom.
I'm not incredibly computer literate, but I think i could install the rom assuming someone can help me gain S-off. I'm happy to pay for the service.
Thanks
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Sorry for bumping an old thread, but is there anyone in London preferably North or maybe East who could help me with this?
My better half has a cha cha which has the usual woes and I gather I need an XTC clip to gain s-off and install a custom rom.
I'm not incredibly computer literate, but I think i could install the rom assuming someone can help me gain S-off. I'm happy to pay for the service.
Thanks
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a quick read of this chacha thread will be more useful, says you don't need XTC clip.
you can unlock your bootloader via HTCdev. it won't give you s-off, but you can still root and install custom rom.
in all honesty you'd be much better off learning how to do it yourself. it sounds daunting at first, many people who have gone down this route have had no prior experience. like many things it really is about patience, reading and understanding. plus it's more satisfying
My mistake, I think I may be confusing myself.
I read this bit
"Therefore you cannot install a custom ROM on a non-S-OFF-non-bootloader-unlocked-non-rooted-non-CWM phone. Understood? "
To mean that I needed s off to install a custom rom?
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My mistake, I think I may be confusing myself.
I read this bit
"Therefore you cannot install a custom ROM on a non-S-OFF-non-bootloader-unlocked-non-rooted-non-CWM phone. Understood? "
To mean that I needed s off to install a custom rom?
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don't just read selective confusing bits, slow down, read the whole post again, several times.
i picked an easier to understand quote...
"Unlocking the bootloader will allow you to flash CWM, root your phone and install custom roms. Unlocking the bootloader will NOT give you S-OFF!"
this is all part of the reading and learning i mentioned i don't even own that phone but a quick read suggests that guide is pretty comprehensive...
if it still doesnt make sense search around in the chacha threads as it's for that phone, nothing to do with desire
good luck!
Hi, really a newbie to HTC, only played with LG, motorola, samsung and sony phones before, so some of the terminologies here are quite alien to me. So please help answer some questions of mine!!!
1. Is there a way to ensure that after unlocking BL, rooting, S-off, i can still go back to stock for warranty purposes? Because what i found out so far is that i can do this with s-off, but doesn't that mean i have to s-on again?
2. What can be done to unbrick the device? Like flashing of stock firmwares, and i don't quite understand the meaning of RUUs.
3. Some of the links posted here brings me back to posts found in the M7 forum, does it mean the methods work for both devices?
4. Is the ADB interface really an important aspect for modding HTC phones? I've never actuqally used one for the other brands though but it does see to be mentioned alot more here.
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Hi, really a newbie to HTC, only played with LG, motorola, samsung and sony phones before, so some of the terminologies here are quite alien to me. So please help answer some questions of mine!!!
1. Is there a way to ensure that after unlocking BL, rooting, S-off, i can still go back to stock for warranty purposes? Because what i found out so far is that i can do this with s-off, but doesn't that mean i have to s-on again?
2. What can be done to unbrick the device? Like flashing of stock firmwares, and i don't quite understand the meaning of RUUs.
3. Some of the links posted here brings me back to posts found in the M7 forum, does it mean the methods work for both devices?
4. Is the ADB interface really an important aspect for modding HTC phones? I've never actuqally used one for the other brands though but it does see to be mentioned alot more here.
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Best advice I can give you is read all the stickie threads in General and have a good read around the development section, it seems like mumbo jumbo at first, but once you've read and learned the logistics... It'll come easy :good:
Hi there,
I've recently learned that the only way to be able to truly customize my phone is through rooting it. However this is a process Im not so familiar with and something I've heard can end up badly. Now I've watched a couple of video's on youtube about what to do and how to do it. But I have one major question. In each video I seem to watch, none of them are the developer edition. I remember reading, before purchasing the phone, that the developer edition came with an unlocked bootloader? Of which I am not certain as to what that is. But each time, in the videos, they go to the HTCdev website to request the bootloader to be unlocked or something of the sort. I also read somewhere by doing that, they are able to cross-reference the fact you've rooted your phone and deny complete warranty replacements. That is assuming you did root your phone in the end. My main concern is losing this warranty, I do not wish to void it at all, and by registering that you have kind of puts me off rooting my device. But then I began thinking, my bootloader is already unlocked, does this mean I don't have to register with that HTCdev website? and will this mean I can root it without them knowing, so I am then able to restore it (Of which i will need to learn) and get it replaced if something is to happen to my phone?
I know there are a lot of questions involved in this post! Sorry if i'm asking ridiculous things, but I am new to this kind of stuff!
Cheers,
Exactly, you're bootloader is already unlocked . all you really need to do is push a custom recovery to be rooted.
Here is all you need for customizing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694600
Here is for rooting and other things.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699065
Here is the guide for adb and fastboot, which gonna be useful and essential for customization.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532719
Please, please, PLEASE read instructions so you won't mess up your m8!
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Hello, so I'm going to be receiving my HTC One M9 tommorrow morning, and I was hoping the XDA community could help me with some fundemental questions regarding my new phone.
So, first off, this is a Verizon version, but I'm 95% certain that it comes factory unlocked. HTC6535LVWSG. I hear some people have issues rooting/S-OFFing the Verizon version (VZW at least, but I don't think mine is), but if it's not that version (or already unlocked, for that matter), does that mean that I will be able to load up any recovery from here? Assuming that I've gotten a recovery installed (my past phone was an EVO 3D, which I've tinkered quite a bit with), will I be able to use ROMs posted here? Or will I need to use specially made Verizon ROMs?
All of that aside, do you know where I can find the Marshmellow RUU that I heard just came out for the M9? As mentioned in the earlier paragraph, will I need a special GSM version for it?
EDIT: I found the news post at HTC, I'm assuming that it would work for any M9.
Thanks for anyone who responds!
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Hello, so I'm going to be receiving my HTC One M9 tommorrow morning, and I was hoping the XDA community could help me with some fundemental questions regarding my new phone.
So, first off, this is a Verizon version, but I'm 95% certain that it comes factory unlocked. HTC6535LVWSG. I hear some people have issues rooting/S-OFFing the Verizon version (VZW at least, but I don't think mine is), but if it's not that version (or already unlocked, for that matter), does that mean that I will be able to load up any recovery from here? Assuming that I've gotten a recovery installed (my past phone was an EVO 3D, which I've tinkered quite a bit with), will I be able to use ROMs posted here? Or will I need to use specially made Verizon ROMs?
All of that aside, do you know where I can find the Marshmellow RUU that I heard just came out for the M9? As mentioned in the earlier paragraph, will I need a special GSM version for it?
EDIT: I found the news post at HTC, I'm assuming that it would work for any M9.
Thanks for anyone who responds!
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NO! SLOW DOWN!
If you get a Verizon M9 do not flash anything!! Unless its specifically for the Verizon M9 or the developer of the ROM/Kernel states it will work with CDMA or Verizon M9's.
As of right now only the GSM Marshmallow update is out. Do not flash this RUU/update on a Verizon M9. It's better if you start off by just looking around for Verizon M9 threads. Ask questions in other threads if that particular ROM or file will work on a Verizon M9 or better yet read through most if not all the posts in those threads because more often than not someone in your shoes has already asked the same question.
But if you received a locked/S-ON device do not update/change anything on that phone until you've freshen up on whether or not S-OFF/Rooting is available for the software that comes already on it. It'll save you the headache of playing around with a new phone and it auto updates now your stuck without S-OFF.
Also don't ask questions in "General" that's what the Q&A section is for.
Congratulations! I think you'll be pleased with the M9.
Diaclaimer: I'm a hobbyist and not an expert - you should do some reading of threads and
research before attempting to hack your phone.
A few things:
- you may find better help in the Verizon HTC M9 forums (http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-one-m9)
- S-OFF is currently only possible on Verizon's variant of the M9 via a Java Clip. They're expensive, but there are fellow XDA members who own them and are willing to use theirs on your phone, usually for a reasonable fee
- until your bootloader is unlocked (pretty sure that your phone will NOT come that way - Verizon is not user-friendly) or you are S-OFF, you will not be able to flash a custom anything (recovery or ROM). Attempting to do so may render your phone unusable.
- Marshmallow has been released officially for the developer/unlocked variant of the M9, which is GSM-only. The Verizon variant is CDMA; the RUU will fail to install on your device.
Hope this is helpful. You probably have a bit more effort to go through to be able to hack your phone, but it's very doable and worth the effort. The M9 is a solid device and all the moreso once you have S-OFF (or an unlocked bootloader) and root.
Unfortunately, UPS Next Day Air has failed me, with yet another delay, so I won't have the phone today. :v
I know it's already paid off, and I'm pretty sure it's factory unlocked. What determines if it's a VWZ version or not? How does this affect my modding processes? I hear of several people who can do stuff to "non-VWZ" versions.
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Not for the vzw m9. Big difference is the versions they can do already can use htc dev to bootloader unlock and root. Vzw is another can of worms because we need a root exploit before anything can happen.
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So, I got the phone today. It was supposed to be delayed but I guess they managed to deliver it! I have to go, so the phone is gonna sit here for a couple hours, but it can boot into the bootloader (I'm not sure if this is a sign that it can be unlocked, but we'll see, I guess.)
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So, I got the phone today. It was supposed to be delayed but I guess they managed to deliver it! I have to go, so the phone is gonna sit here for a couple hours, but it can boot into the bootloader (I'm not sure if this is a sign that it can be unlocked, but we'll see, I guess.)
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Any phone can boot into the bootloader. To determine your phone's status, you'll need to look at the upper left corner when you are in bootloader mode: does it say 'unlocked' or 'locked'? Similarly, does it say 'S-ON' or 'S-OFF'?
First of all you should, in my opinion, deal with the differences of a CDSM to a GSM device in detail and read especially the Verizon specific threads in this forum very carefull.
Seconed to it you should pick up the full information about block based OTA politics, and the major changes regarding moddifications to Android 5.1.1. If never done before you should also read the basic threads abaut unlocking, rooting, fastboot as well as adb commands. If need for further help occurs it is hightly important to be able to explain when, where and assumingly why a problem/error occured.
Besides this have fun with your One M9!
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First of all you should, in my opinion, deal with the differences of a CDSM to a GSM device in detail and read especially the Verizon specific threads in this forum very carefull.
Seconed to it you should pick up the full information about block based OTA politics, and the major changes regarding moddifications to Android 5.1.1. If never done before you should also read the basic threads abaut unlocking, rooting, fastboot as well as adb commands. If need for further help occurs it is hightly important to be able to explain when, where and assumingly why a problem/error occured.
Besides this have fun with your One M9!
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Ah, I know the ins and outs of adb and fastboot already, as I've had my fair share of working with the HTC bootloader-- however I just wanted to clarify some things that I had not previously known. Thanks for the advise, though.
Guys please, anyone can verify that the buttons (power and volume) are a bit 'down after a few months of use??
Hi guys,
Got an M9 that updated to Nougat as soon as i laid hands on it. I have very few experience with the HTC world, and would like some information where should i head after here.
I'll definitely need root and am familiar with flashing through fastboot and unlocking through the HTC DEV Token.
I am also aware that a few flashing methods dont work with an unlocked bootloader, so currently i dont want to rush right there.
What is absolutely a myth to me, is S-OFF. Never managed to reach it in any device, and the way of getting it seems a bit unfair (sorry if it doesn't agree with anyone's views).
So this is what i have.
Status: LOCKED and S-ON
ROM: 7.0
Software: 4.16.166.1
Build: CL839204
CID: VODAP110
Baseband: 01.01_U114401011_117.00.61117G_2_F
Has Download mode available.
Thanks in advance.
Sad, sad to have found out that on XDA, barely any helper comes around the Help threads.
And even sadder to the fact that a certain feature to give control over the device have been monopolised in OEM fashion, adding a certain fee too.
The loop of options:
YOU CAN ONLY:
Unlock the device officially, temper with custom roms and recoveries.
The moment you want the benefits of a newer release (baseband, etc), one needs to relock back, that means backing up, go through wiping and locking and back.
YOU CANT:
Certain features that depend on S-OFF. From changing phones origin to updating without bothering locking or not.
Long story short, you cant do anything useful without reaching the pocket.
This concludes as my last HTC phone ever.
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Sad, sad to have found out that on XDA, barely any helper comes around the Help threads.
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I can only speak for myself but I'm not online 24/7. I answer if and when I have time for answering. Then you need to be aware that the M9 forum never was that active and the user base is even decreasing since the phone is already older than two years. If you expect fast replies, then a not so active device forum is definetely the wrong place for asking a question.
Aside from that, there's the ReadMe thread that got pinned at the top of the General and the Q&A section. It contains all answers to your questions. After all the time that I'm maintaining that thread I still don't understand why people prefer creating a new Q&A thread instead of reading what already got written.
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And even sadder to the fact that a certain feature to give control over the device have been monopolised in OEM fashion, adding a certain fee too.
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Please, not that discussion, again. S-OFF is absolutely not needed for using this phone. It's optional.
PlutoDelic said:
Unlock the device officially, temper with custom roms and recoveries.
The moment you want the benefits of a newer release (baseband, etc), one needs to relock back, that means backing up, go through wiping and locking and back.
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Incorrect. If you had read the ReadMe thread you would know that relocking is absolutely not needed (and even not recommended). Not to forget that this phone is EOL. If you update to the latest version before starting to tinker you will never have to deal with this "problem" of getting back to stock. Aside from that, it was Google that introduced the block-based OTAs with android 5, not HTC. You'll face the same "problem" with every phone that gets shipped with android 5 or newer.
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YOU CANT:
Certain features that depend on S-OFF. From changing phones origin to updating without bothering locking or not.
Long story short, you cant do anything useful without reaching the pocket.
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Not sure how you define useful but rooting and installing custom roms is working fine without S-OFF. Most M9 owners have never heard of xda, rooting or custom roms and the majority of the rest doesn't need more than what they already can achieve with S-ON. (The part with the locking already got corrected above.)
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I can only speak for myself but I'm not online 24/7. I answer if and when I have time for answering.
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Obviously, i have the same experience on a few Samsung threads, very understandable, although rare does someone have such enthusiastic reply for something positive. But anyway, i'll throw a thanks as i am not here for cynicism or arrogance.
Flippy498 said:
Then you need to be aware that the M9 forum never was that active and the user base is even decreasing since the phone is already older than two years.
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Very well noticed.
Regarding S-OFF, i "just" need it, and was very much disappointed with the solution.