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[Q] why dont people cook roms ?

ok so i just got the lg expo and i am coming from the htc hd2 and i must say i am very dissapointed that there are not more cooked roms for the expo. and to be honest im not really sure what exactly the dragon rom does? i got my expo already loaded with it and dont see anything different. i mean with the hd2 there were roms that looked nothing like stock and ran just amazing but there is nothing for the expo.....why? why dont we have cool roms? why?

burro breath said:
ok so i just got the lg expo and i am coming from the htc hd2 and i must say i am very dissapointed that there are not more cooked roms for the expo. and to be honest im not really sure what exactly the dragon rom does? i got my expo already loaded with it and dont see anything different. i mean with the hd2 there were roms that looked nothing like stock and ran just amazing but there is nothing for the expo.....why? why dont we have cool roms? why?
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So you didn't run the stock rom at all?
Dragonstorm is a huge improvement and much more in line with what you'd expect from a new win mobile. LG's interface appealed to a few, but most were not fans. The stock rom was also an older build (with the start menu at the top).
If you visit lg-expo.com you can find a couple of sense based roms if that's more what you were looking for, but that's more htc-ish obviously and a few things aren't working quite right yet.
I think the quality of Dark's work is a large factor in the lack of other roms. It's got everything you need and you've got room to add whatever you want.
I also think theres a decent number of people are cooking "privately". I have reasons for not sharing any of my builds so far (time, apps I cooked, etc), but fear not, I do intend to eventually. In the meantime, I look forward to seeing your builds.

I too would like to see more choices in the expo rom section; But I do quite like darks rom.

But see what I don't understand is what is different? I never ran the stock rom but this dragon rom seriously feels stock to me. I mean the hd2 stock rom was better then this. I'm NOT saying it's a poor quality rom and I do want to be clear that this rom does work well. But I'm used to having loads of style and setup options and customized themes out the wazoo. So I seriously look forward to some sweet Roms in the future.

Dark's ROMs are built to improve speed, memory, GPS, etc. He lays out a great foundation for you to add apps. If you add to much in your ROM, it will gobble up all the phone mempry. These ROM are fast and free up phone memory. The stock ROM were bogged down by useless apps. If your looking for a more flashy ROM there is a touchflow ROM at lg-expo.com

phatride4ever said:
Dark's ROMs are built to improve speed, memory, GPS, etc. He lays out a great foundation for you to add apps. If you add to much in your ROM, it will gobble up all the phone mempry. These ROM are fast and free up phone memory. The stock ROM were bogged down by useless apps. If your looking for a more flashy ROM there is a touchflow ROM at lg-expo.com
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More stuff in rom does NOT equal more ram used up. more services and more stuff running equals more ram used. Just make sure to keep that clear yes ATT bloat does use up more ram but its not the fact that it uses more rom space its that it runs more programs.

burro breath said:
But see what I don't understand is what is different? I never ran the stock rom but this dragon rom seriously feels stock to me. I mean the hd2 stock rom was better then this. I'm NOT saying it's a poor quality rom and I do want to be clear that this rom does work well. But I'm used to having loads of style and setup options and customized themes out the wazoo. So I seriously look forward to some sweet Roms in the future.
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You're trying to compare a HTC device's ROM to an LG device's ROM. Obviously they are going to be different. You can't really compare the two, stock or otherwise especially when the stock HD2 comes with Sense and the eXpo stock has the LG Idles instead.
Like posted before, there is a Sense build posted over at lg-expo.com that has actually been downgraded back from 2.5 to 2.1. Sense was never designed to run on this device so it's pretty awesome that thekingvrock got it working cooked into a ROM. Personally I'm waiting for an Android build, but the Sense ROM is pretty nice.
You also have to keep in mind that the device itself is still relatively new since not many people were able to get it at launch with all of the delays. Plus not everyone that was able to get a device earlier on were devs or anyone that could even make a full rom. HTC devices have been out for years and the architecture is similar enough to have plenty of ROM options shortly after launch. It's going to take some time for more roms to come out for the eXpo, but it has the potential to be a pretty damn good device.

Well I'd love android on this [email protected] phone. I'm always looking here and on lg-expo.com

[Q] Top 5 Roms?

Sorry for the noobish question... but i just got my G2 today and i want to flash a good, stable, Good battery life, no bugs Rom
Can you guys help me out and give me your top 5 choices?
#1 Being the best
Thanks ALot :-D

Hi everyone..
I too would be interested to hear which are the most popular ROM's
I have a Nokia N900, and it is time to move as I really need a couple of apps that Android have, but Maemo doesn't
So Im upgrading to my first ever Android phone (a desire z) and would like to hear what ROM's are considered good. Im guessing none of them are bad, but it would be interesting to hear which are the most popular. Im not ready to root and install a ROM yet, but I will spend the next few weeks getting to know the phone and read up understand the process and then off I go!
Haven't done this since the bad old days of WM 6.5, so am a bit rusty, though there were a couple of kernel swaps on the N900..
Looking forward to tinkering and learning a new OS, and hopefully getting to grips with the new kitchen as well, as that really looks interesting...
Thx in advance
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1. CM7 for the obviously ground breaking reasons...
MoDaCo/Paul's Sense ROM
Either of the new MIUIs

Thanks ab0m
Off to google and read now..

Its really up to personal preference and what works for you. You're going to get a lot of CM7 responses now that it is at RC1 and beyond, and very stable.
Go read up on the Wiki in the dev forum, and try them out for yourself. See what you like the most. There are stock roms, Sense-based roms, MIUI, and many others.

CM7 should get the nod for being the best just because of what it is. That being said, I use GingerMex, which is a rom based on CM7 with custom animations, theme and some other tweaks and stuff. Beyond that, if you like Sense roms there are a slew of those as well, but I don't have much experience with those because I don't like the restrictive nature of the Sense launcher.

1. CM7
2. Virtuous (a close 2)
3. GingerMex
4. ModaCo Sense
5. MUIU
CM7 is clearly the fastest, stable, and efficient in terms of battery usage. Virtuous is the best Sense ROM and that team works hard to put out a good product. Not so easy on the battery efficiency, but it is now very stable, and any issues you incur are probably because of advanced kernel use. GingerMex is based on CM7, it just has the custom look to it, that I'm not too fond of (to each their own of course), but it is very stable and fast. MoDaCo is another Sense ROM that is basically stock without any of the bloatware. Kind of plain, to me. MUIU looks like an iPhone, if that's what you're into - I just personally didn't care for the look. I think one of the pluses of that ROM is that it's file size is really small, so it doesn't use up too much internal memory.

enserio said:
1. CM7
2. Virtuous (a close 2)
3. GingerMex
4. ModaCo Sense
5. MUIU
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I would have to agree with this. I have stopped looking for other roms and just stick with CM now.
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Just bought a Desire.

Well, I've just bought a Desire and I don't know where to start with Roms!
First I've been meaning to try out MIUI for agesss! But its never been ported to a device I've had. (Arc + SGS 1).
What are some good roms to try?
Note: I don't like Sense.
Thanks, Ben.

Well there is pretty much only one miui, so try that if you want to.(they are nice but too iphone'ish for me )
Also as you don't want sense, there is the classic(cyanogenmod with plenty of mods) and then we have a more lightweight aosp rom called oxygen, which i prefer myself. Good luck.

I like my eye candy! I'm not a lightweight person! Cyanogen mod might be an option though... I guess the best way is to flash and find out!

I havent been flashing roms for too long myself but ive been through a fair share. Oxygen has defently treated me well. Fast, stable and leaves plenty of room for apps while still looking good. Its the one I kept going back to until I found sense 3 but i know its not for everyone

khsbenny said:
I like my eye candy! I'm not a lightweight person! Cyanogen mod might be an option though... I guess the best way is to flash and find out!
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If that's the case, maybe go with another Sense ROM?
I've been using InsertCoin rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940
That gives you Gingerbread and various Sense 3.0 goodies
There are also other Sense roms out there... I know of LeeDrOiD, but never used it myself.
Once you're rooted, it's easy to try roms out - flashed cyanogenmod over the weekend, got annoyed at a few things so reverted back to insertCoin

What is the point of getting ICS now?

Since a lot of stuff is still wonky/glitchy, and the ICS ports are still not perfect.
Is the point of getting ICS just to say you have it?
Or are there certain advantages to running ICS that I am not aware of?
I am on ILWT btw.

Why run ILWT?
Biggest reason I run it is because the UI to me is THAT much better than GB or anything else I've used. The ROMs are stable enough, fast enough, and include all the features I need to get by day to day.
This sounds more of a troll post, but meh.

I've been running ICS since Andromadus alpha 1, and as a DD since alpha 4. Yes there have been several glitches (alpha 5 was unusable) and several things broken such as the camera, but running an alpha or beta build is what produces the feedback and usage stats the devs need to make a great RC. It also kicks the OEM's in the tail to release drivers and possibly new roms for our devices if the devs AND users can illustrate a need. Aside from that, ICS can renew an aging device with new functionality and refined looks. I've rediscovered my own aging device, and for the first time started to realize its capabilities as a real, almost tablet-like, computing device and not just an alarm clock or a way for telemarketers and my wife to bug me.
Sent from my Andromadus ICS HTC Vision using TapaTalk

It is not a troll post. I am running ILWT because it is stable, fast, and the battery life is great.
If I am not going to use the stock ICS ui, then should I even bother switching to ICS?
Like, I have a custom Go Launcher theme that is pretty damn sick, and I never use the stock apps for anything except stock market...

convolution said:
It is not a troll post. I am running ILWT because it is stable, fast, and the battery life is great.
If I am not going to use the stock ICS ui, then should I even bother switching to ICS?
Like, I have a custom Go Launcher theme that is pretty damn sick, and I never use the stock apps for anything except stock market...
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I must say the ICS Roms are much smoother than any other rom I've ever used and I've had a single hot reboot since first DD worthy release. Battery isn't remarkable but that is cause they haven't been optimized yet, stabilize then optimize. In your case I might wait more for optimized, but hey! Nandroid, wipe, install and try it a bit, you may just fall in love !

That is sound advice, noneabove.
Yes, I do believe the best thing to do at this point is for me to stfu and try it.

ICS ROMS are great. The best reason in my opinion is for developing/ testing purposes. They are smooth and stable.
Sent from my HTC Vision Ice Cream Sandwich

i flash every update to test it but its a looong way from me using it.
not as stable, not as funtionable, not as good batterylife and right now, not the same performance.
so i use ILWT for same reasons as you until the ICS roms are atleast as good.
i figure that there are enough people reporting bugs anyway, they dont need me.

atm im using cm7.2 on everyday basis but i do like to test other/newer roms to see if they might got some additional functionality i could need..
like actualy usb host mode what doesnt seem to work on cm7.. ive read it should work from ics on so im happy projects like virtuousrom exist to im able to try

ICS & Sense - who wants to port?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1438120
so where are the porting devs?
EDIT: i´m only spreading information

Why would you want to pollute a good operating system with that trash??!?!?

dhkr234 said:
Why would you want to pollute a good operating system with that trash??!?!?
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Its all a matter of personal preference and taste, my friend. More ROMs is always better. And if you don't like it, you don't have to flash it (if anyone does port it). There are plenty of custom Sense ROMs on GB for our phone, so it would be hard to believe that absolutely no developers would be interested in porting a ICS ROM with Sense.

I think it'd be better to wait until HTC releases their first ICS phone. It will contain a brand new Sense UI version, which would be optimized for ICS.
Sense 3.5 is really convenient, I prefer it over stock Gingerbread. But in combination with Ice Cream Sandwich? Google's UI works like a charm, no need for me to switch back this soon.

That link looks very promising for DHD owners, I'm glad that we still have so much support for our phone though. It'd be really cool to see Sense 3.5 on ICS.

I don't think sense 3.5... I think sense 2.1 with ics will be an awesome combo

magic_android said:
That link looks very promising for DHD owners, I'm glad that we still have so much support for our phone though. It'd be really cool to see Sense 3.5 on ICS.
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Desire HD and Desire Z came out around the same time, and hardware is similar in many ways. So the DHD ROM may be a good starting point.