Can some one tell me why we can't compile AOSP for the t989 and just use Samsung kernel so everything works? Basically why can't we kang together a t989 ROM that is how much ever is needed of Samsung device modules etc and the rest AOSP?
jahrule said:
Can some one tell me why we can't compile AOSP for the t989 and just use Samsung kernel so everything works? Basically why can't we kang together a t989 ROM that is how much ever is needed of Samsung device modules etc and the rest AOSP?
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You should do it so that we get AOSP rom
jim93 said:
You should do it so that we get AOSP rom
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That wasn't his question. Just don't respond if you have nothing useful to say. This is exactly where all the flame wars start.
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Towle said:
That wasn't his question. Just don't respond if you have nothing useful to say. This is exactly where all the flame wars start.
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It is cool. And yes i would love to do it. With my experience with linux this would be no biggie, but android i have no idea. I think that if it was possible surely someone would have made a flawless 98% AOSP rom with 2% samsung parts....... right?
Towle said:
That wasn't his question. Just don't respond if you have nothing useful to say. This is exactly where all the flame wars start.
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Csb are u done tryna be a mod? Cause reading back to your comment you didn't really contribute anything useful to his question either.
Now as for the question also apks cannot simply be installed on a touchwiz room the framework for both of these is pretty different you have to actually change code and port it over can't simply uninstall =(
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lilz4life said:
Csb are u done tryna be a mod? Cause reading back to your comment you didn't really contribute anything useful to his question either.
Now as for the question also apks cannot simply be installed on a touchwiz room the framework for both of these is pretty different you have to actually change code and port it over can't simply uninstall =(
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You did not answer my question at all.
Then I don't u derstand ur question.
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Okay, it is very difficult to make an AOSP ROM with no device tree. That's why we have barely any 100% working. Remember, if you take kernel apart, you will find yourself with many, many files. You need to look through them all and link all the files. If those linked files don't work, then maybe you have to add some. If it still doesn't work, you will need to rework the drivers/firmwares. It is a difficult process. You also need to link all kernel/ROM together. *APK's HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS PORTING PROCESS*
jahrule said:
Can some one tell me why we can't compile AOSP for the t989 and just use Samsung kernel so everything works? Basically why can't we kang together a t989 ROM that is how much ever is needed of Samsung device modules etc and the rest AOSP?
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Apparently you have never worked with source and/or compiled from... there are plenty of reasons why that can't happen. Main reason there is no device tree with proper source.
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thederekjay said:
Apparently you have never worked with source and/or compiled from... there are plenty of reasons why that can't happen. Main reason there is no device tree with proper source.
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I only use linux for the past 5 years i sure the hell have compiled and worked with source. I just never had to compile for anything other than x86(_64) cpu before aka no toolchaining.
Towle said:
That wasn't his question. Just don't respond if you have nothing useful to say. This is exactly where all the flame wars start.
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This is among the useful response for the original question. I was just encouraging him to go try it that is the best way form him to figure out why its not that simple.
This question has been asked before and I have seen how people have responded with different answers of this question. Whenever this question has been responded with technical reasons then it just ends up being followed by a question of why cant you do "A" even though "A" is based on not knowing another technical reason. The problem is the real satisfactory answer involves knowing alot of the basics which would have precluded you from asking the question in the first place.
Asking this question is like ends up like the following
"A: Why cant you fish with potato bits as bait?"
"B: well fishes dont like to eat potatoes"
"A: potato is food though,Why dont they like food"
It has been suggested before so clearly if someone knew how to do it they would have done it. The best thing at this stage is to try it.
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Okay, it is very difficult to make an AOSP ROM with no device tree. That's why we have barely any 100% working. Remember, if you take kernel apart, you will find yourself with many, many files. You need to look through them all and link all the files. If those linked files don't work, then maybe you have to add some. If it still doesn't work, you will need to rework the drivers/firmwares. It is a difficult process. You also need to link all kernel/ROM together. *APK's HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS PORTING PROCESS*
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Yea.. I was not implying that we grab APKs from some random AOSP build and copy on top of some working stock ROM. My question more is that I see on samsungs opensource site they give us kernel source for the t989 (have not looked at it yet) and then they gave us some build files to copy over and overwrite the build environment for AOSP which I did and built (currently trying to figure out how to use the *.img files), but shouldn't that give us a ~90% AOSP build? That or I am completely not understanding the README file from samsung.
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This is among the useful response for the original question. I was just encouraging him to go try it that is the best way form him to figure out why its not that simple.
This question has been asked before and I have seen how people have responded with different answers of this question. Whenever this question has been responded with technical reasons then it just ends up being followed by a question of why cant you do "A" even though "A" is based on not knowing another technical reason. The problem is the real satisfactory answer involves knowing alot of the basics which would have precluded you from asking the question in the first place.
Asking this question is like ends up like the following
"A: Why cant you fish with potato bits as bait?"
"B: well fishes dont like to eat potatoes"
"A: potato is food though,Why dont they like food"
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I think he was trying to say if you don't want to spend the time explaining the details because you make some asumptions about people and their posts whom you have never met... then it is best you remain silent rather than giving some smart remark as an answer.
jahrule said:
I think he was trying to say if you don't want to spend the time explaining the details because you make some asumptions about people and their posts whom you have never met... then it is best you remain silent rather than giving some smart remark as an answer.
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I wasnt giving you a smart remarks just pointing out that at this point it is best to just try it because nobody knows all the exact steps because nobody has done it for this device.
You are left seeking genera android kernel advice which ->
If you run into trouble with technical details go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=565 since it is a better place to ask questions about using img files than in the same forum where people ask "how do I install custom rom" even the themer section is a better place.
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I wasnt giving you a smart remarks just pointing out that at this point it is best to just try it because nobody knows all the exact steps because nobody has done it for this device.
You are left seeking genera android kernel advice which ->
If you run into trouble with technical details go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=565 since it is a better place to ask questions about using img files than in the same forum where people ask "how do I install custom rom" even the themer section is a better place.
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I was not saying you were being a smart %^& just saying what I think dude was saying. In fact because of your comment I went got the source from samsung and repo synced AOSP and compiled it and have been playing around since just a little stuck now. My question was for more a technical reason. I understand now that we don't have a device tree for the t989 that works flawlessly... at least thats what i get from alpha and darkside. Now my question more is what the heck is the use of the source from samsung then?
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I was not saying you were being a smart %^& just saying what I think dude was saying. In fact because of your comment I went got the source from samsung and repo synced AOSP and compiled it and have been playing around since just a little stuck now. My question was for more a technical reason. I understand now that we don't have a device tree for the t989 that works flawlessly... at least thats what i get from alpha and darkside. Now my question more is what the heck is the use of the source from samsung then?
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You can actually modify the Kernel it just takes work. For example if for some reason either the t989 or skyrockets ICS kernel was open sourced there would be a rotation fix so quick for the one with broken rotation.
Samsung just throws the source they finished out there but doesnt really provide or I think care to provide any work towards AOSP builds.
Check out this thread.
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Check out this thread.
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Hes asking about compiling Kernel from source I think
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Hes asking about compiling Kernel from source I think
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No i am talking about the userland
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Check out this thread.
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Yea thats cool and all but i am more intetested in GB. There is sone source that samsung gives us which i thought is the device tree for this phone... So in essence what i am asking is: what is the source that samsung provides and what use is it? I am aware of the kernel source already i am refering to the other package.
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Hello.
I have a kernel based on CAF's jb_2.5 branch booting on d2spr.
Source is here.
Status currently is: userland comes up (working panel) and seems to be functioning properly, with the caveat that pretty much all peripherals are broken. USB also works - so this project really is a developer's dream: plethora of mini problems to work on and a wealth of debugging information readily available.
Up until this point, I could focus on specific problems with the boot process and tackle them one by one. However now, there are dozens of directions one could go in, so I am posting this with the hopes of soliciting some help from like-minded individuals with experience in kernel porting. Work is also picking up for me, and I really need to offload some of this kernel work. Plus, I am burning a hole through my boot partition flashing/re-flashing, and it really is no fun doing this alone.
A bit of background: I used CAF's jb_2.5 branch because it is closest to being compatible with the userland HAL (display-caf in particular) currently used in cm10.1. I also have CAF's msm-3.4 branch booting, but the panel headers in userland are too far apart.
I tried to be surgical with the alterations: rather than mass merges, I tried to insert drivers individually (with the exception of media/video where samsung seems to have done an amazing job of crapping all over qcom's already non-upstreamed v4l2/camera/media code). The upshot of this is, we get rid of all the extraneous samsung crap. The downside is things are harder to fix.
The priorities as I see them:
1. Get d2vzw, d2tmo, d2att (etc) off the ground. Currently I only have board files for d2spr since this is the device I own, but someone with the right device and skill set should be able to invest couple of hours to follow my commits and get their version up.
2. Sound.
3. WiFi/Bluetooth. (invisiblek)
4. Camera
So let's get this going.
I wish we could put an effort to make this happen on Midas...
But really this is the wrong forum, the Qualcomm devices are truly on a completely different platform, there is little to no shared code here. Anyway good luck with it...
This honestly belongs in one of three places.
I am very interested in this work though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1672
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1692
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1712
It's not really in the wrong section (currently): the US variants of the SGS3 share this "development discussion" section with the exynos versions. If a different dev discussion is created for the qualcomm devices, this thread will probably be moved there.
Take care
Gary
Audio is up and going.
You know you want in on this.
moving along well
wifi and bluetooth now too (bluetooth is just as ****ty as it was before)
as far as i can tell, the two big things left are:
-shutdown/reboot sequence is borked
-data
EDIT: oh, camera too
Can you please discuss development, as opposed to just give status updates on a project? (Otherwise, I'll have to delete the thread.)
Some suggestions: Discuss HOW you got audio, bluetooth, wifi, etc working - perhaps with some code snippets or actual examples.
Thank you
Gary
garyd9 said:
Can you please discuss development, as opposed to just give status updates on a project? (Otherwise, I'll have to delete the thread.)
Some suggestions: Discuss HOW you got audio, bluetooth, wifi, etc working - perhaps with some code snippets or actual examples.
Thank you
Gary
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Gary, I appreciate what you are trying to do here, but the commit log is readily available. It's not like folks are asking specific questions and they are left unanswered.
If someone wants to spur discussion on a particular part of any code that's been committed then I am game, but rehashing past efforts for the sake of generating content is wasting everyone's time.
You have the last word so do what you gotta do.
In the meantime we have all sensors going (prox/light/g-sensor), gps also works, device reboots properly, and now actually enters power collapse in suspend. Thanks to invisiblek, our wifi and BT drivers have been ported over from 3.0, + he's got d2_vzw up to speed.
Other than some (minor and not so minor) tweaks here and there, the major project that needs a champion is camera.
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Gary, I appreciate what you are trying to do here, but the commit log is readily available. It's not like folks are asking specific questions and they are left unanswered.
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The issue is that this section is for development discussion. Currently, this thread is using it as a "status updates for a specific product" thread (and not discussing the process whatsoever.)
Perhaps "Sprint samsung galaxy S III -> General" would be a better place for this thread?
Take care
Gary
How's the progress on the camera coming along? Its pretty impressive that you got the 3.4 kernel this far already.
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Oh wait, never mind I'll just check the progress on github.
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Moved to sprint sgs3 general.
Take care
Gary
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Just an fyi, I saw Chad Goodman post a pure Google aosp jb Rom with a 3.4 kernel a couple of weeks ago where everything including camera worked, even html5
Obviously it wasn't here.
klin1344 said:
How's the progress on the camera coming along? Its pretty impressive that you got the 3.4 kernel this far already.
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I had an aosp rom with 3.4 kernel and the camera working, plus audio, wifi, and bluetooth. This was almost 3 weeks ago. Sorry to burst the bubble. Thanks
Yes I approve bigwillyg
bigwillyg said:
Just an fyi, I saw Chad Goodman post a pure Google aosp jb Rom with a 3.4 kernel a couple of weeks ago where everything including camera worked, even html5
Obviously it wasn't here.
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Get out of here dude! Hahah jk.
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bigwillyg said:
Just an fyi, I saw Chad Goodman post a pure Google aosp jb Rom with a 3.4 kernel a couple of weeks ago where everything including camera worked, even html5
Obviously it wasn't here.
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Isn't his beta ROM 3.4. I've ran that since he dropped it. Best aosp ROM out there.
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bigwillyg said:
Just an fyi, I saw Chad Goodman post a pure Google aosp jb Rom with a 3.4 kernel a couple of weeks ago where everything including camera worked, even html5
Obviously it wasn't here.
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You should know better than to post things like the above without offering a source tree.
Mod please close this thread, it obviously does not belong here.
As a side note: Pretty disappointed with XDA here - this thread gets bounced from development (into general nonetheless), in favour of threads "how to compile CM10.1"? Close it, posts like the ones above are exactly what I was trying to avoid.
detule said:
You should know better than to post things like the above without offering a source tree.
Mod please close this thread, it obviously does not belong here.
As a side note: Pretty disappointed with XDA here - this thread gets bounced from development (into general nonetheless), in favour of threads "how to compile CM10.1"? Close it, posts like the ones above are exactly what I was trying to avoid.
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Why are you getting upset ? Because someone else has already accomplished what the OP is trying to do. I've ran the Rom before so I can say that it ran great.
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daniel4653 said:
Why are you getting upset ? Because someone else has already accomplished what the OP is trying to do. I've ran the Rom before so I can say that it ran great.
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Then where's the kernel source?
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daniel4653 said:
Why are you getting upset ? Because someone else has already accomplished what the OP is trying to do. I've ran the Rom before so I can say that it ran great.
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+1 I ran it also wish I still had it
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Then where's the kernel source?
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Since kernel is not on XDA there's no need to show the kernel source.
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Ok so here we go. There are a whole lot of fantastic ROMS out there. But how come none have the whole package. I've seen roms out there with multiview; some with page buddy; some with the Note 2 keyboard, etc. But none with them all.
Is this hard to do. If i could learn how to develop roms i sure would make this. Maybe this is impossible, maybe not.
So here is the challenge: (and its probably not a challange)
We have MB1 odexed and deodexed. That can be our base. after that we can implemnt a number of tested and working mods, to include, but not limited to the ones outlined above. After that we can use morphology or whatever app we want to theme and customize this rom. Not everyone likes the Note 2 keyboard or multiview. But some of us like them all. Or maybe just want them just because we can have them.
So what do you think. Please, if you read this leave a response telling what you would love to have in your rom. Maybe we can get a rom call something like your rom that all the devs can contribute to based on this thread.
THANKS:laugh:
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Ok so here we go. There are a whole lot of fantastic ROMS out there. But how come none have the whole package. I've seen roms out there with multiview; some with page buddy; some with the Note 2 keyboard, etc. But none with them all.
Is this hard to do. If i could learn how to develop roms i sure would make this. Maybe this is impossible, maybe not.
So here is the challenge: (and its probably not a challange)
We have MB1 odexed and deodexed. That can be our base. after that we can implemnt a number of tested and working mods, to include, but not limited to the ones outlined above. After that we can use morphology or whatever app we want to theme and customize this rom. Not everyone likes the Note 2 keyboard or multiview. But some of us like them all. Or maybe just want them just because we can have them.
So what do you think. Please, if you read this leave a response telling what you would love to have in your rom. Maybe we can get a rom call something like your rom that all the devs can contribute to based on this thread.
THANKS:laugh:
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I challenge you to learn to spell challenge and also to just get a Rom with most of them, and the rest are available with simple flash mods.
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xblackvalorx said:
I challenge you to learn to spell challenge and also to just get a Rom with most of them, and the rest are available with simple flash mods.
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correct you are and i just noticed the spelling. sorry.
However correct as you are. Im gonna give you a scenario:
I am on a rom now that has the note 2 keyboard, great battery life, and overall is a great rom. But i tried to flash the multiview mod and it broke the contacts and dialer. The mod worked but after i installed i couldnt dial a number to call out. Dirty flased the rom and all is well now, but no multiview.
I was on another rom. It had multiview and page buddy, but no note 2 keyboard. Now when i flashed the note 2 keyboard mod, it didnt work. The mod seemed to work for international only, not ours.
I am something like a noob although ive been flashing since the first galaxy s1 and i have had all three since then and other galaxy variants. I just think this would be a fun project for us ALL to work on and it would be something that wouldnt end.
Sorry if i offended you with my spelling and/or my challEnge.
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correct you are and i just noticed the spelling. sorry.
However correct as you are. Im gonna give you a scenario:
I am on a rom now that has the note 2 keyboard, great battery life, and overall is a great rom. But i tried to flash the multiview mod and it broke the contacts and dialer. The mod worked but after i installed i couldnt dial a number to call out. Dirty flased the rom and all is well now, but no multiview.
I was on another rom. It had multiview and page buddy, but no note 2 keyboard. Now when i flashed the note 2 keyboard mod, it didnt work. The mod seemed to work for international only, not ours.
I am something like a noob although ive been flashing since the first galaxy s1 and i have had all three since then and other galaxy variants. I just think this would be a fun project for us ALL to work on and it would be something that wouldnt end.
Sorry if i offended you with my spelling and/or my challEnge.
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here you go Note 2 keyboard http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2160021
dutchmaster18 said:
correct you are and i just noticed the spelling. sorry.
However correct as you are. Im gonna give you a scenario:
I am on a rom now that has the note 2 keyboard, great battery life, and overall is a great rom. But i tried to flash the multiview mod and it broke the contacts and dialer. The mod worked but after i installed i couldnt dial a number to call out. Dirty flased the rom and all is well now, but no multiview.
I was on another rom. It had multiview and page buddy, but no note 2 keyboard. Now when i flashed the note 2 keyboard mod, it didnt work. The mod seemed to work for international only, not ours.
I am something like a noob although ive been flashing since the first galaxy s1 and i have had all three since then and other galaxy variants. I just think this would be a fun project for us ALL to work on and it would be something that wouldnt end.
Sorry if i offended you with my spelling and/or my challEnge.
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Don't flash mods on the wrong roms. Lmao
Cleanbean with multi window mod and the note 2 keyboard provided above should give you every thing you want.
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Can't believe this thread. You haven't searched. Hyper drive port has page buddy, note 2 launcher and keyboard
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daniel4653 said:
Can't believe this thread. You haven't searched. Hyper drive port has page buddy, note 2 launcher and keyboard
http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb374/TexasEpic/ThePeoplesROM-KennyGlass123/daniel4653.png
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i tried hyperdrive. while its a great rom everything isnt working on it. MMs and 4g
you know what guys... nevermind. Everyone making me feel stupid. I was just thinking that it would be a way to incorporate all the WORKING mods in one place as opposed to all over xda. Instead i get a bunch of people making me feel stupid. I found zips for the note 2 keyboard but none of them worked for the us version. Thanks though for the link to the one that came out last week.
I remember when i first signed up for xda i read somewhere that everyone in the forum is friendly.
Anyway ill leave the thread up for a few hours then ill take it down. I supposed i offended quite a few people with my stupid idea.
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you know what guys... nevermind. Everyone making me feel stupid. I was just thinking that it would be a way to incorporate all the WORKING mods in one place as opposed to all over xda. Instead i get a bunch of people making me feel stupid. I found zips for the note 2 keyboard but none of them worked for the us version. Thanks though for the link to the one that came out last week.
I remember when i first signed up for xda i read somewhere that everyone in the forum is friendly.
Anyway ill leave the thread up for a few hours then ill take it down. I supposed i offended quite a few people with my stupid idea.
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It's not that it's a stupid idea, just it's been asked a million times before. What happens is that devs bust there butts for free to give us roms. It's not easy being a dev. I'm not a dev by any means but I know it's not easy.
p.s. Don't say you don't know anything about being a dev, send out a challenge then use words like "we" and "our" when you would have no actual dev help.
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Poop
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Poop
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Nice idea there chap.
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dutchmaster18 said:
you know what guys... nevermind. Everyone making me feel stupid. I was just thinking that it would be a way to incorporate all the WORKING mods in one place as opposed to all over xda. Instead i get a bunch of people making me feel stupid. I found zips for the note 2 keyboard but none of them worked for the us version. Thanks though for the link to the one that came out last week.
I remember when i first signed up for xda i read somewhere that everyone in the forum is friendly.
Anyway ill leave the thread up for a few hours then ill take it down. I supposed i offended quite a few people with my stupid idea.
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Don't worry about it, man. Truth is, many people on xda are no talent assholes that get their jollies by berating others. I'm not sure why its the case.
I think this is a good idea but I also agree with strongsteve, perhaps you could try to build it yourself. I have thought to myself, if only I could have a ROM with x, y and z it would be perfect. However, I'm far too busy to learn coding and ROM building right now so I make do with what's available.
I know how you feel about the people around here, I asked a simple question about a certain mod in a ROM thread and was belittled and basically ostracized from that specific community. I don't let it bother me after all, at the end of the day its just an internet forum about phones.
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mlin said:
Don't worry about it, man. Truth is, many people on xda are no talent assholes that get their jollies by berating others. I'm not sure why its the case.
I think this is a good idea but I also agree with strongsteve, perhaps you could try to build it yourself. I have thought to myself, if only I could have a ROM with x, y and z it would be perfect. However, I'm far too busy to learn coding and ROM building right now so I make do with what's available.
I know how you feel about the people around here, I asked a simple question about a certain mod in a ROM thread and was belittled and basically ostracized from that specific community. I don't let it bother me after all, at the end of the day its just an internet forum about phones.
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You are right. I need to learn how to build a rom.
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Best thing to do is make what you want yourself. If you can't do it, don't complain.
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This.... Is the reason that people get so irritated here. This isnt a solution to the issue the person posted... A proper response isnt just telling the op to learn to code. You are on a forum that you are obviously quite active on, providing helpful responses seem to be the common thing to do.
I understand where the op is coming from, and i have ran into this issue many times with many different roms across many phones. Heres my solution to you. Rather then use your base rom as a stock unodexed rom. Would i seem to find to be the best workaround would be to use CM as your base. You are far more likely to have the CM Team push out a version of CM to which ever device you are using. From there you can request certain features and mods tailored to CM. You can then create a supplemental mod section for that version of CM, similar to how we have a morphology section, and have a list of flashables. If you are decent enough you can even create a kitchen or make an updater just for cm that flashes these mods. From there you can create individual titanium backups and re-flash those backups each time you update your CM version.
Your issue that you have with certain roms only being tailored to certain people isnt new. This is the "advantage" that apple fanboys seem to boast about is how all the Iphones can download Any program that anyother stock Iphone has. They claim Fragmentation i call it tailored preferencing. I personally find the note keyboard bulky and i hate it, i am true to swype as im more familiar with it so regardless the rom im on i always just install my swype APK.
I figure this would help out a bit, although i provided no clear solution other then say its a bit easier to tailor a mod to a rom then a rom to a mod.
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This.... Is the reason that people get so irritated here. This isnt a solution to the issue the person posted... A proper response isnt just telling the op to learn to code. You are on a forum that you are obviously quite active on, providing helpful responses seem to be the common thing to do.
I understand where the op is coming from, and i have ran into this issue many times with many different roms across many phones. Heres my solution to you. Rather then use your base rom as a stock unodexed rom. Would i seem to find to be the best workaround would be to use CM as your base. You are far more likely to have the CM Team push out a version of CM to which ever device you are using. From there you can request certain features and mods tailored to CM. You can then create a supplemental mod section for that version of CM, similar to how we have a morphology section, and have a list of flashables. If you are decent enough you can even create a kitchen or make an updater just for cm that flashes these mods. From there you can create individual titanium backups and re-flash those backups each time you update your CM version.
Your issue that you have with certain roms only being tailored to certain people isnt new. This is the "advantage" that apple fanboys seem to boast about is how all the Iphones can download Any program that anyother stock Iphone has. They claim Fragmentation i call it tailored preferencing. I personally find the note keyboard bulky and i hate it, i am true to swype as im more familiar with it so regardless the rom im on i always just install my swype APK.
I figure this would help out a bit, although i provided no clear solution other then say its a bit easier to tailor a mod to a rom then a rom to a mod.
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Thanks for this post. I didnt think anyone would understand where i was comming from. I wasnt asking for a rom, just for maybe a thread or somthing with all possible mods. That way we could use what we want. I personally like the note keyboard, page buddy, and multiview. But there arent any roms out there with all three. And until I made this thread i couldnt find a working note 2 keyboard that worked for our us versions.:good:
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Thanks for this post. I didnt think anyone would understand where i was comming from. I wasnt asking for a rom, just for maybe a thread or somthing with all possible mods. That way we could use what we want. I personally like the note keyboard, page buddy, and multiview. But there arent any roms out there with all three. And until I made this thread i couldnt find a working note 2 keyboard that worked for our us versions.:good:
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You don't really need a thread with all these mods grouped together. A thorough search would likely land you the apks or zips you're looking for.
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You don't really need a thread with all these mods grouped together. A thorough search would likely land you the apks or zips you're looking for.
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Tbo having a thread dedicated to mods is a great idea that way it would be easier to find mods your looking for it would also help clean up all the thread in the development section as well which make it more focus on roms. Now about search I'm sure a lot of the people on this board use xda from the app which has been a known fact for a very long time to be not very useful. Op great post love the idea.
I love the 90s. Good times.
Now, a thread with all the mods wouldnt be helpful.... HOWEVER a wiki page that lists that particular rom and all the mods that are availible to it that links back into the thread for each mod actually sounds like a viable solution...
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you know what guys... nevermind. Everyone making me feel stupid. I was just thinking that it would be a way to incorporate all the WORKING mods in one place as opposed to all over xda. Instead i get a bunch of people making me feel stupid. I found zips for the note 2 keyboard but none of them worked for the us version. Thanks though for the link to the one that came out last week.
I remember when i first signed up for xda i read somewhere that everyone in the forum is friendly.
Anyway ill leave the thread up for a few hours then ill take it down. I supposed i offended quite a few people with my stupid idea.
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It's cool man, don't feel bad.
The thing is, everyone's kind of bought into this dev-worship thing and interrupting their circlejerk is definitely a no-no. Unfortunately, it has become a common position to hold that you should shut up, take what you're given, and if you're not happy, learn to do it yourself. This is a fine position when it comes to literally complaining or bashing devs for not implementing 'X' feature...But it has been taken to an extreme by some devs, and most users, that any asking for features be met with harsh criticism and intolerance. Fall in line, take what you're given.
Of course, this is an absurd position to take, one they don't accept in any other facet of their life.
What no one seems to have realized is that, aside from the use of the world challenge, your post wasn't at all contentious. I apologize, on behalf of those of us who are still willing to think, for how the people in this thread have treated you.
As an aside, a genuine thank you to the devs who don't take any chance to jump down the throat of a user who is simply asking for specific features in a rom.
To actually answer the OP...
The closest you would get be to compile the flashable zips of all the features you like for yourself
Put the Note 2 keyboard, multiview, and any other mod that you want into a zip and just have it handy for yourself, thats the best you can do short of porting the remaining stuff over haha
As things go popping up, which I'm sure they will, you can go on adding them to your zip
hey guys, i just modified the liquid smooth rom cause i was bored.
all credits go to the liquid team...i really didnt do anything hard, and i dont consider myself to be a real developer now.
just wondering if anyone wants to test it out to see if it works, and give some feedback.
http://www.mediafire.com/?zj1dfa69nmyewzn
Changes made:
-removal/replacement of a few apps
-build.prop changes
-changes to updater-script
-changed boot animation
Like I said, I didn't make this to make a more optimized version of liquid smooth. It's more of an experiment/attempt to learn a bit.
Thanks.
btw gapps arent included.
What changes did you make to the rom?
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What changes did you make to the rom?
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a few build.prop tweaks, some modification of systemui, deleted some apps and added others, changed bootanimation, and i think some other stuff that i cant remember anymore.
Not really a good way to inspire confidence in a ROM that you don't even know what you did to it...
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Not really a good way to inspire confidence in a ROM that you don't even know what you did to it...
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im not really trying to promote it to everyone. i just did this as an experiment, and i just want to know if its booting ok, not force closing apps, etc. so that i know whether or not to change something.
How about you test it out yourself before asking others to risk trying it. Just a simple piece of advice.
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How about you test it out yourself before asking others to risk trying it. Just a simple piece of advice.
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According to his sig, he doesn't seem to have a GS3. Probably why he is asking for people to test it for him.
and i dont consider myself to be a real developer now.
just wondering if anyone wants to test it out to see if it works said:
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Thanks.
btw gapps arent included.
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Feedback:
Who'd want to "Test" a rom from a non-developer, when there are many that are from DEVELOPERS, not to mention the Liquid Smooth was developed by a full team. This to me infers that you are better than a team? Oh well, if you want to try peeps, go for it, but remember, it was done by someone who says he was not a developer.
like getting on a bus with a legally blind driver!
I have no understanding why anyone would!....... and "TEST"? OMG
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Who'd want to "Test" a rom from a non-developer, when there are many that are from DEVELOPERS, not to mention the Liquid Smooth was developed by a full team. This to me infers that you are better than a team? Oh well, if you want to try peeps, go for it, but remember, it was done by someone who says he was not a developer.
like getting on a bus with a legally blind driver!
I have no understanding why anyone would!....... and "TEST"? OMG
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i clearly said in my original post, that i take no credit for this, and that all credit goes to the liquid smooth team.
By test i didnt mean to go through the whole rom and check if every single thing works. Im just asking that you flash it
and let me know if it boots fine and doenst have any major issues.
like i said, im not trying to promote this as the best rom for the s3 that everyone should start using.
no need to get all pissed...it was just a simple question. If you dont want to try it, why even post?
i understand your concern guys, but blind development happens all around XDA. if this guy today had a "Recognized Developer" tag, i bet many of you would try it out. don't underestimate the OP.
that said, make sure you do understand that there is a risk since this is a blind development, although i doubt anything would go wrong since this is just something the OP took from an already working ROM for the TMO Galaxy S III and tweaked it a bit...
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i understand your concern guys, but blind development happens all around XDA. if this guy today had a "Recognized Developer" tag, i bet many of you would try it out. don't underestimate the OP.
that said, make sure you do understand that there is a risk since this is a blind development, although i doubt anything would go wrong since this is just something the OP took from an already working ROM for the TMO Galaxy S III and tweaked it a bit...
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+1. We can do without the drama guys. The OP is doing absolutely nothing out of the ordinary by developing blind. Yes, it is always a risk for testers, which is why he posted this here looking for the willing. If you don't want to try it, please move along and stop flaming each other. :good:
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i understand your concern guys, but blind development happens all around XDA. if this guy today had a "Recognized Developer" tag, i bet many of you would try it out. don't underestimate the OP.
that said, make sure you do understand that there is a risk since this is a blind development, although i doubt anything would go wrong since this is just something the OP took from an already working ROM for the TMO Galaxy S III and tweaked it a bit...
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Thanks. Like you said I doubt flashing this would cause any harm. All I really did was change a couple apps and replace some pics in systemui and frameworkres.
Just make a nandroid, flash the rom, let me know if it installs/boots properly, and then just restore your nandroid.
My apologies go out to the op. He did make an effort to further improve an already outstanding rom and asking for testers is KEY. It's a great start for experimenting while increasing your knowledge on the more advanced aspects of android. Will give this a try once my S3 is fully charged!
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I bet if he was a recognize developer you all wouldn't be a§§es. Just say no thank you and move on. Too many drama lovers on this site I swear.
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Considering that its possible to modify firmware images and inject custom malicious code, I don't see anything wrong with questioning someone's motives for putting up a ROM that they admit they don't even remember what changes were done to it. I can understand if you think you've improved upon something but without a change log or anything there isn't really any reason to test it. Being cautious is not the same as being an ass.
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Considering that its possible to modify firmware images and inject custom malicious code, I don't see anything wrong with questioning someone's motives for putting up a ROM that they admit they don't even remember what changes were done to it. I can understand if you think you've improved upon something but without a change log or anything there isn't really any reason to test it. Being cautious is not the same as being an ass.
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I agree, there is absolutely nothing wrong with questioning something suspicious. But there are ways to do it without coming off like a jerk.
@OP I do advise adding more to the OP about the changes made if you want testers.
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I agree, there is absolutely nothing wrong with questioning something suspicious. But there are ways to do it without coming off like a jerk.
@OP I do advise adding more to the OP about the changes made if you want testers.
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One thing that I hate about the internet - you can't really control how your message is taken by others. I wasn't trying to be a jerk at all.
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One thing that I hate about the internet - you can't really control how your message is taken by others. I wasn't trying to be a jerk at all.
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Oh no, I wasn't aiming that towards you at all. It was just a general statement. Now let's stop spamming this thread with off topic posts
Everybody has a point to start. May be this is his point.
I swear if I was fan of 4.2 roms I would do it for you. But I already had too much headache with 4.2 roms.
Dont forget to ask original dev before you modify his work like this.
Gud luck ahead.
the rom has 6 downloads, however no one has given any feedback?
if anyone flashed it could you let me know if it works ok.
Okay, so we have all of course seen that Synergy ROM and GalaxyMod have gotten multi-window/multi-view (is there seriously an official name for it??) working on the Galaxy S3, and on 4.1.1 no less.
This is really bugging the crap out of me (and probably a few other frustrated people). See, I want to make my own ROM from stock with all the features I want, without having to even deal with ROMs like Synergy that just don't quite fit with what I want and what works.
So I shall ask the question many may be dying to answer themselves, and why not sit down and actually discuss it rather than say "oh go here and get 'x' rom lol".
How does one get the Galaxy Note 2's Multi-window feature working on a Galaxy S3 touchwiz (or perhaps even AOSP) ROM?
Simple as that.
We all know it is possible, since it has already been done. And even on a version beneath 4.1.2!
If anyone has any clue whatsoever, please contribute to the discussion. I hope that soon this can be useful to all who would like this feature.
If anyone has any arguments to me asking the question, I haven't ever found an answer, and I've searched almost anywhere I possibly could (even here). So please don't.
Thank you.
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Okay, so we have all of course seen that Synergy ROM and GalaxyMod have gotten multi-window/multi-view (is there seriously an official name for it??) working on the Galaxy S3, and on 4.1.1 no less.
This is really bugging the crap out of me (and probably a few other frustrated people). See, I want to make my own ROM from stock with all the features I want, without having to even deal with ROMs like Synergy that just don't quite fit with what I want and what works.
So I shall ask the question many may be dying to answer themselves, and why not sit down and actually discuss it rather than say "oh go here and get 'x' rom lol".
How does one get the Galaxy Note 2's Multi-window feature working on a Galaxy S3 touchwiz (or perhaps even AOSP) ROM?
Simple as that.
We all know it is possible, since it has already been done. And even on a version beneath 4.1.2!
If anyone has any clue whatsoever, please contribute to the discussion. I hope that soon this can be useful to all who would like this feature.
If anyone has any arguments to me asking the question, I haven't ever found an answer, and I've searched almost anywhere I possibly could (even here). So please don't.
Thank you.
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You have to code it into the rom your using. Which means ripping your rom apart down to the base code and redoing alot of the coding from scratch.
AOSP is not an option. If you dont know why then you might want to rethink doing it your self.
You will need to know Java and C++ to start with.
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You have to code it into the rom your using. Which means ripping your rom apart down to the base code and redoing alot of the coding from scratch.
AOSP is not an option. If you dont know why then you might want to rethink doing it your self.
You will need to know Java and C++ to start with.
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So basically what you're saying is that I should download the source code from Samsung and code it into the ROM? (can't think of any other way to get to the base code simply from my little ROM itself, so that's why I ask this) Never worked with actual source code yet, so I might need a few pointers. It has always seemed as though source codes for different sorts of software are handled differently. And that's true. The thing is, finding how to handle each person's/company's source, and I still have much to learn in that regard.
Call me a noob if you'd like, because I pretty much am. But even so I would like to learn. Just saying. (and before you say "oh, well then go look at the other parts of the forum if you're so helpless", I'm just throwing it out there)
Okay. I thought I saw multi-window on an AOSP ROM but I could be mistaken. Besides, I don't have to do it myself. I could probably team up with my friend who is a hardcore android phone modder like myself.
Yeah, I figured I'd need to know Java and C++ to legitimately code android itself. I'll probably be able to get it down completely one of these days. For now, I'm still learning it.
There is a mod on the sprint gs3 forums that has multiwindow. It's a flashable mod for sprint 4.1.2 rims only though. It's a lotmore work than just that though. Port Sprint ROM then add the mod. And more behind Tue scenes stuff.
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How does one get the Galaxy Note 2's Multi-window feature working on a Galaxy S3 touchwiz
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You NEED to also know that the APKs themselves also need to be multi-view compatible. This means decompiling and re-compiling each APK for your device (with the change in coding).
I'm not sure if you'd need to change the build prop to match the Note2 as well, but I think your CSC can remain the same.
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There is a mod on the sprint gs3 forums that has multiwindow. It's a flashable mod for sprint 4.1.2 rims only though. It's a lotmore work than just that though. Port Sprint ROM then add the mod. And more behind Tue scenes stuff.
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Thank you. I figured this might be moreso the case, as Team Synergy apparently made their ROM by using dsixda's android kitchen. Porting methods definitely must be learnt to get this kind of thing going.
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You NEED to also know that the APKs themselves also need to be multi-view compatible. This means decompiling and re-compiling each APK for your device (with the change in coding).
I'm not sure if you'd need to change the build prop to match the Note2 as well, but I think your CSC can remain the same.
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So I'm assuming you mean we should use something like apktool. The question then is what parts of each code do we change/add to make it work. Alternatively, I have seen mods that make it so just about any app will work as well.
I'm supposing I should get the stock Note 2 ROM to obtain the build.prop? I dunno, I haven't done much with build.prop's.
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So I'm assuming you mean we should use something like apktoo
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This is correct. I don't have the correct answer to any of your other queries as we are actually in the same boat.
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This is correct. I don't have the correct answer to any of your other queries as we are actually in the same boat.
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Okay. Well hopefully soon we will have the answer.
If anyone else has any info, please share it.
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Bump?
You are better off learning to use Dsixda's Kitchen or wait on someone else to create a custom ROM for this.
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You are better off learning to use Dsixda's Kitchen or wait on someone else to create a custom ROM for this.
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Well...I actually already know how to use the Kitchen. It's really simple to use. You just need to know how to install individual mods after you do what needs to be done in the kitchen itself. The only thing I don't fully know is how to port. He doesn't give any pointers because he doesn't actually know how to port either.
And I really don't want to wait for someone else to make a ROM with it included. We already have two, and both are still pretty buggy. Synergy is notably slow (despite CPU tweaks) and there are quite a few apps that don't even work on it (for example, the regular e-mail app). I'm determined to figure out and know how top create my own ROM, but if I can't get the info I need to progress then it'll be pretty tough.
Like I said though. I'm determined to gain the knowledge to do what I want.
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Well...I actually already know how to use the Kitchen. It's really simple to use. You just need to know how to install individual mods after you do what needs to be done in the kitchen itself. The only thing I don't fully know is how to port. He doesn't give any pointers because he doesn't actually know how to port either.
And I really don't want to wait for someone else to make a ROM with it included. We already have two, and both are still pretty buggy. Synergy is notably slow (despite CPU tweaks) and there are quite a few apps that don't even work on it (for example, the regular e-mail app). I'm determined to figure out and know how top create my own ROM, but if I can't get the info I need to progress then it'll be pretty tough.
Like I said though. I'm determined to gain the knowledge to do what I want.
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There are porting guides all over XDA and one in our very own development section. You could run a few things by the guy who made the CSROM BMB rom...and its not buggy as you said others are. It's has a Sprint base and works well with the multiview feature.
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There are porting guides all over XDA and one in our very own development section. You could run a few things by the guy who made the CSROM BMB rom...and its not buggy as you said others are. It's has a Sprint base and works well with the multiview feature.
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hednik, you are in love with upndwn4par. thats all there is to it
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hednik, you are in love with upndwn4par. thats all there is to it
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What's not to love?
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xBeerdroiDx said:
hednik, you are in love with upndwn4par. thats all there is to it
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No offense to all the bother devs here but he like loser makes the most solid ROMs and his work goes unnoticed. Guys a boss
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No offense to all the bother devs here but he like loser makes the most solid ROMs and his work goes unnoticed. Guys a boss
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agreed. no offense to any devs as well but their are several trending ROMs/devs that everyone seems to run to...without even looking at the great (and often more stable) material that already exists. not to mention, guys like upndwn4par have their hands in a dozen other small mods/patches and really, really useful bits of software that have made S3 life for many of us so much easier.
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There are porting guides all over XDA and one in our very own development section. You could run a few things by the guy who made the CSROM BMB rom...and its not buggy as you said others are. It's has a Sprint base and works well with the multiview feature.
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Yeah I know. I've bookmarked a couple so I can go through them when I have time. :3
Oh, wow! I just went and looked at that ROM and it looks pretty bada$$!!
Also wondering if Gruesomewolf's multi-window mod will work on any ROM. Not real sure what "MB1" is though...
That's so awesome though. I'm a bit surprised people like Max Lee haven't featured that yet.
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Mb1 is the sprint 4.1.2 leak. The gruesomwolf mod gas the have a sprint 4.1.2 base... Maybe Verizon will work but at&t and T-Mobile haven't gotten it yet.
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So basically what you're saying is that I should download the source code from Samsung and code it into the ROM? (can't think of any other way to get to the base code simply from my little ROM itself, so that's why I ask this) Never worked with actual source code yet, so I might need a few pointers. It has always seemed as though source codes for different sorts of software are handled differently. And that's true. The thing is, finding how to handle each person's/company's source, and I still have much to learn in that regard.
Call me a noob if you'd like, because I pretty much am. But even so I would like to learn. Just saying. (and before you say "oh, well then go look at the other parts of the forum if you're so helpless", I'm just throwing it out there)
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So if you want to create a Rom with multi Window you will need framework from gs3 4.1.1 4.1.2 and note 2 4.1.2. You do not need the source from Samsung necessarily as you can pull framework-res.apk with adb, but you need a thorough knowledge of java and c++. You don't normally start off doing major reconstructive editing to roms. If you have adk set up build an app first. There are tons of tutorials in xda and all over google. Then move on to theming and whatnot.
Remeber to hit Thanks if I've been helpful.
Waiting for the sources that is, what are porters planning on sticking on this? Personally I want the sources to attempt to port Sailfish, only reason I bough the phone. I currently have the Nexus 5 and the OS runs buttery smooth thanks to the porters over at #sailfishos-porters
Am even wondering did I make a mistake buying this device when the Nexus 5, is more than enough omph to power the OS. But I've got it and gotta try, to atleast expand my own knowledge base.
also do you guys know how chainfire managed to build the kernel for it without the sources?
WTF?
The phone has been out for less than a month. Have some patience or start learning to develop yourself, rather than creating a useless thread, just to whine.
I got my 5x last Tuesday and forgot how little I like "pure" android. I think the usual progression is flash aosp then flash cyanogenmod once the nightlies start to stabilize. I know I'm in the minority but the nexus phones usually have too much Google on them for my taste. I like the hardware, but the software is another story.
At any rate, I'm also waiting for the binaries and device tree so that I can start building my own.
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Waiting for the sources that is, what are porters planning on sticking on this? Personally I want the sources to attempt to port Sailfish, only reason I bough the phone. I currently have the Nexus 5 and the OS runs buttery smooth thanks to the porters over at #sailfishos-porters
Am even wondering did I make a mistake buying this device when the Nexus 5, is more than enough omph to power the OS. But I've got it and gotta try, to atleast expand my own knowledge base.
also do you guys know how chainfire managed to build the kernel for it without the sources?
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If you knew much about how android works, you'd know that chainfire didn't make a kernel. He took the boot image and modified some fstab, prop, and sepolicy stuff, repackaged it, and released it. He didn't build his own kernel.
In any case, I'm curious about this, how long does it usually take google to release their sources?
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WTF?
The phone has been out for less than a month. Have some patience or start learning to develop yourself, rather than creating a useless thread, just to whine.
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oh yeah Ill just go and create a kernel, and while am at it, I may as well write my own drivers. Maybe I'll call my kernel linox, and adopt this policy of sharing my source code so other people could collaborate. Maybe using some sort of version control, call Hit or something, maybe on some website called HitHub.
Yeah that sounds like a good way to develop it...Or Google could hurry the **** up and release the sources and binaries so I wouldn't have to.
Well if you read my post you'd see I was curious about what people wanted to port.
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If you knew much about how android works, you'd know that chainfire didn't make a kernel. He took the boot image and modified some fstab, prop, and sepolicy stuff, repackaged it, and released it. He didn't build his own kernel.
In any case, I'm curious about this, how long does it usually take google to release their sources?
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Not make but people have been saying it was built with forceencrypt disabled so I thought he built the kernel with that flag, (ie he had the sources). But it seems thats not the place to change it
Wow the self-entitlement is real nowadays, patience bro. You cant have everything instantly when you want it.
m4r0v3r said:
oh yeah Ill just go and create a kernel, and while am at it, I may as well write my own drivers. Maybe I'll call my kernel linox, and adopt this policy of sharing my source code so other people could collaborate. Maybe using some sort of version control, call Hit or something, maybe on some website called HitHub.
Yeah that sounds like a good way to develop it...Or Google could hurry the **** up and release the sources and binaries so I wouldn't have to.
Well if you read my post you'd see I was curious about what people wanted to port.
Not make but people have been saying it was built with forceencrypt disabled so I thought he built the kernel with that flag, (ie he had the sources). But it seems thats not the place to change it
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timjp692 said:
Wow the self-entitlement is real nowadays, patience bro. You cant have everything instantly when you want it.
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what to expect an open source based phone to have the sources with it?
No I know I can't have everything when I instantly want it, but really what could be the reason for the delay. Since am already pretty pissed about the force encryption.
m4r0v3r said:
what to expect an open source based phone to have the sources with it?
No I know I can't have everything when I instantly want it, but really what could be the reason for the delay. Since am already pretty pissed about the force encryption.
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I'm sorry, but you sound like a whiney little 12 year old who is used to having everything they want RIGHT when they want it. Kind of sums up the turn this forum has taken over the past couple of years.
In the real world you'll learn that good things take time. The phrase, "patience is a virtue" holds true merit.
Offer a bounty if you're that impatient.
sn0warmy said:
I'm sorry, but you sound like a whiney little 12 year old who is used to having everything they want RIGHT when they want it. Kind of sums up the turn this forum has taken over the past couple of years.
In the real world you'll learn that good things take time. The phrase, "patience is a virtue" holds true merit.
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Apology accepted.
bblzd said:
Offer a bounty if you're that impatient.
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For what exactly? Someone to break in Google servers and take the source code? lol
m4r0v3r said:
For what exactly? Someone to break in Google servers and take the source code? lol
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I'm waiting too- it's not like google is still working on the binary drivers and just building the production rom with hacked up device trees until they get the real ones. I could be mis-remembering, but in the past, I thought the factory roms and binary drivers were available the day the devices were released.
I can certainly understand being patient with devs who are working on roms (for free/beer/donations), but google is done with the rom and has already released it to production. The factory image for the 6p was delayed as well. It's not a secret- they are going to push it to every one who bought a phone. My conspiracy theory is that google is trying to bury aosp, and merging android and chrome will be another stab into the heart of both privacy and freedom.
and its outtt
m4r0v3r said:
and its outtt
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Waiting for some real nexus thing then