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hi everyone
I'm thinking about getting a sim free desire as a up grade for my hero (my real upgrade doesn't happen until june :-(, and my hero showing its age) and also the I can afford to buy one.
I have a few questions;
one of my pet annoys with my hero is scrolling through my texts messages is very very very very very laggy in the default app, has this been improved with the froyo update??
is scrolling through albums again not lagging??
does the stock htc keyboard have proper multitouch??
(an opinion question here)
do you believe htc will bring the new sense to the desire ??
will htc carry on pushing out future android updates to the desire??
htc desire is fast and nothing lags. htc should be pushing future updates to the desire. it's already said in a few posts that new sense will come to desire -- not confirmed though.
its a good phone but the screen visibility is absolutely pathetic when you're out in the sunlight!
the Desire has a very well made exterior casing with fine metal finishing
the Desire 5MP camera gets you excellent results provided you tweak the HTC camera settings
as for the main processor and RAM its as fast as anything else on the market, the gallery is extremely fast as well as 720p video playback, messages scrolling is fast too but not perfect, video recording is at 25fps 800x480 in good lighting, 20fps 720p recoding in good lighting in darker lighting video recording frame rate will drop
the Desire is only a little outdated in one area which is the graphics processor gives slightly less smooth experience in heavy 3d games, 2D games runs perfect
as for the screen, SLCD edition is better than Amoled, better cleaner pixel density and more brightness it also performs better outdoors (engadget review was wrong about that) as far as i can tell its scratch resistant provided you are careful of it too (first time i don't use a screen protector but i keep it in a pouch)
one final thing if you are brave enough to root your device, you will extract much more from your desire, with the stock froyo update, you can get better performance, better battery, better loudness, better SD card speed and solve the internal storage issue if you root your device
HTC keyboard is awesome, further future updates are a mystery at this moment
check my signature i bought 2 already
DISCLAIMER: This phone was purchased by me. Its the Indian sim-free version. I am no fanboy. I have used a variety of smartphones over the last decade. The views presented are unbiased and as objective as possible. The review was written over a period of two months due to obvious reason that I went through a couple of replacements that took a painfully long two months to materialize. Therefore the views and observations have been updated as and when I managed to get my paws with the phone. This review is late because it was in the oven for a long time due to delays as mentioned above.
Plz dont start a flame war.
Introduction
So after waiting impatiently for 8 days, I finally received my HTC One X. I had pre-ordered the X on 2nd of April. Needless to say I was itching to get my hands on this highly anticipated phone of 2012, however at the same time I was quite concerned after reading about so many issues/problems that early adopters like me were facing.
Have a look below to find out about what I think of this cutting edge smartphone.
Background
My first steps in adroid world was with the marvelous Desire HD. In my opinion this was one of the most under-rated phone of 2010-11. This phone had mostly a love-hate relationship with the worldwide user demographic, mainly due to its polarizing design. My next android phone was arguably the best android smartphone till date- the samsung galaxy s2.
After knowing about the HTC One X, I could not stop thinking about the phone. I was sold on the design from the very first go. So after selling off my SGSII I waited for the X to launch with baited breath. Finally its here in my hands and I am very happy camper.
Packaging
The One X packaging is very minimalist and so-called eco-friendly if you ask HTC, but if you ask me, I simply think HTC have cheaped out on the packaging. The packaging does not do justice to the premium feel of the handset and is more akin to the packaging we get with 50 USD handsets.
Hardware & Build
I was very apprehensive about the build quality of the phone after reading so many threads regarding the disappointing build. Fortunately, the handset that I received has very good and solid build. The soft-touch mat back is absolutely a delight to hold and look at. The glossy sides are also good looking and dont look cheap but I would have preferred the more premium mat finish. The overall fit and finish is of a very high order. However, looking closely there are few rough edges that should not have been there. But at the end of the day the overall fit and finish gets a thumbs up in my book. Now if I have to nitpick, then a couple of things sticks out.
1) The simcard tray is not very easy to slot back into the body
2) The volume rocker lacks tactile feel
Apart from these there arent any niggles with the construction.
As expected the white is a magnet for smudges and dirt but its very easy to clean off using a moist cloth.
In my handset the build was very solid. In fact I would rate the build close to that of the Desire HD (which IMO had fantastic build). The build is lightyears ahead of the SGSII. Plz ignore all the people who says that the GNex and the SGSII have solid build and better than the build of the X. The X's build quality is in a totally different league. In my case there was no creaks, squeaks, flex etc whatsoever.
The Display
I have only one adjective for the display and that is mesmerizing. This is the bloody best display I have ever seen on a phone. The colors pop without looking overly saturated. Viewing angles are as wide as you can hope to get. The entire display has a painted on feel to it and is a good enough reason on its own to force a purchase decision. I have compared the display side by side with sgs2, DHD, iphone and a friend's note, and in my opinion the X's display has the best output. Compared to the One X display, the iphone display looks a little washed out as by default the iphone display is calibrated to be very neutral. The whites on the HTC One X is slightly warmer and if I have to guess, then I think the color temp of the X is around 6700-6800k whereas the iphone usually is around 6500k (ideal is 6500k). Compared to the AMOLED, AMOLED+ displays the whites are absolutely gorgeous. The AMOLEDs suffer from a very cool color temperature and as a result whites and neutral tones look more bluish/greenish.
On further testing I have found out that unlike the AMOLED+ display on the SGS2, the One X display does not change color temperature that appreciably with varying brightness levels.
Audio quality
The audio quality during call is very good and better than both the desire hd and sgs2, however the iphone has slightly better quality overall. The music quality through headphones is unfortunately not that great. The desire hd IMO has better music quality. However its night and day better than the pathetic output of the sgs2.
The speaker performance on my handset is ranging from good-very good. The speaker is loud enough most of the times and is louder than both DHD's and SGS2's speakers. However the iphone has a slightly louder output.
If I have to rate audio fidelity then IMO its iphone>One X> DHD> Note> SGS2.
Performance
The quad-core tegra 3 processor and the light-weight sense 4.0 means the UI performance is very fast. Theres hardly any lag anywhere. However the UI gradually slows down a little once multiple apps are installed and a lot of heavy multi-tasking is done. This is the best phone on the market for the hardcore multi-taskers. However I do feel that sense requires further polish and optimization. There are trivial bugs that should have been fixed before the mass release of the phone.
Most of the times the UI just flies and only very occasionally will there be a delay in the response. But on the hindsight, the delay is at par with the performance experienced with SGS2 and only because the X is so fast and fluid in everything else, that these small delays gets magnified. One must keep in mind that even with these little delays/lags, the phone is still the absolute fastest android phone till date. In fact it is the only android phone I have used that gives stiff competition to the iphone in terms of UI smoothness.
One thing I have found out that most of the glitches can be got rid off by enabling developer mode (usb debugging) and disabling HTC gestures. (At least this is applicable in my case)
Imaging
The camera as advertised is blazing fast to take pictures. The out of the box pics and videos quality is good and comparable to iphone and better than sgs2. However to extract the maximum out of the camera, you have play with the settings. I found that the best pics IMO came when sharpness was set to -1, exposure was set manually for the scene, and white balance on manual. Depending on how good you are at taking photos, your mileage will vary. But still at the end of the day this is one of the best cameras on a smartphone today.
Heat
In normal use I dint find the phone heating up to alarming levels as have been portrayed by many. In fact in normal use (calling, browsing, messaging, music etc), the phone never once exceeded 35 C in a room with ambient of around 25-26C. In a room with ambient of 32C the phone got upto only 38 C. These temps are what I used to get with the DHD, and better than that of the SGSII.
Now coming to intensive usage, I decided to play riptide Gp while downloading apps in the background through wifi, and the phone never reached more than 43 C. On the SGS2, while playing riptide Gp, the temp routinely used to exceed 48C.
So I would say that considering the X is packing a quadcore 1.5ghz chip, the heat generated is not intense and certainly in line with the sgs2 or may be slightly less.
Now obviously people with genuine hardware faults will see the phone overheating, but those are in minority and can happen with any phone.
A little update about the temperature. Today I was playing shadowgun and temple run at office. In the AC environment where the room temp was like 24-25C, the phone only got to a max temp of about 39 C. So what temps you are getting depends a lot on your ambient temps.
Battery Life
After fully charging the phone for the first time, I was able to get around 20 hrs or moderate to heavy usage with screen on time of around 4 hrs. This is quite decent battery life and I am expecting it to improve after a few charge-discharge cycles and the impending OTA update.
UPDATE: So I have had the phone for four days now and right now I am on my fourth charge-discharge cycle. One thing is very obvious is that the battery life significantly improves with or after the third charge-discharge cycle. After my third charge I managed to last the phone for more than a day with moderate use. The screen on time was 2.5 hrs or so. Also voice calls were for 1 hr.
Now after my fourth charge, I only lost 1% overnight when the phone was just lying idle. At the time of typing I am still left with 52% charge after a good 15 hrs. The screen on time is roughly 2hrs with 40 mins of calling and 1hr of temple run thrown in.
I dont know about the other owners but I am pretty satisfied with the battery performance so far.
UPDATE 2: Unfortunately my One X turned out to be not so perfect. It had a small gap between the metal frame surrounding the screen and the screen itself. In conditions with low ambient light one can see the backlight of the touch buttons bleeding through this gap. Got it replaced. The replacement took aprox 25 days. Very poor HTC!!
UPDATE 3: Got the replacement on 14/05/2012. Its of the HT24 batch. But unfortunately it has a more pronounced gap and backlight bleeding though this gap is more severe than my earlier unit. This one also has a spot on the screen and a couple of dead pixels. Have sent it back again and waiting for the replacement to arrive. Keeping fingers crossed that everything will be perfect this time around.
UPDATE 4: So finally got my third HOX after 25 days of waiting (Again!!) on 09/06/2012. Thankfully this time round the phone is largely fault free. Its a SH25E batch and I would say the build quality is really good, as in the phone is well put together and feels like a cohesive piece/unit. Now there are a couple of places where the finish of the poly shell and the metal rim surrounding the screen is a bit patchy but that is just nitpicking. However after a day one of the pixels got stuck on the blue color in the lower part of the screen. From what I can see its a partially stuck pixel, which fails to change color from blue on white and light grey backgrounds. It changes colors properly in black, red, blue, yellow etc as expected.
And since its very difficult to spot this unless specifically looking on a white-ish background, I am not too bothered by it.
The phone came preloaded with 1.29 and the screen protector on the phone simply said " One X" instead of " I am the One you have been waiting for". The rest of box and packing was the same as before. I although kinda liked the " I am the One you have been waiting for" bit. It was personal and different.
The battery life for me has been phenomenal on 1.29. I am getting almost two days of standby time with minimal usage. On heavy use I am managing a solid 16-17 hrs with around 3.5-4 hrs of screen on time. On moderate usage (read watching blu-ray rips), the battery lasts for around 25-27 hrs with almost 6 hrs of screen on time @ 50% brightness. These are what I consider really good battery life figures for what is a really high end smartphone. As usual your mileage may vary but overall One X has a very decent battery life for the underlying hardware it is blessed with.
Conclusion & Value For Money
The One X is a very handsome phone to look at. Arguably it is the best smartphone in the world currently at least in the aesthetics department. It is a beast of a phone and has the go to match the show. Performance is fluid and the features are great. The highlight of the phone apart from the stunning design is the display. For my hard earned money, this phone has the best display on a smartphone yet. It leaves the iphone 4s and galaxy S2 far behind in terms of the screen quality. The recently launched GS3 also falls short of the One X in terms of the display quality.
Coming to the direct comparison between GS3 and One X, I would pick the One X as the overall winner simply by virtue of packing the best display available today. Since with a touch phone you will interacting with the display all the time, any phone that carries a display that can make you go wow everytime you look at it, is a winner in my book.
The One X also plays the value card really well against the GS3 and is widely available at a street price of approx 34k (680 USD) compared to the ludicrous 38k (760 USD) for the 16GB GS3.
ONE X vs GS3
1. Looks - One X
2. Performance - Equal
3. Stills - One X
4. Video - GS3
5. Display - One X
6. Battery Life - Equal
7. Ugradability- GS3
8. VFM - One X
9. Feel Good Factor - One X
10. Audio - GS3
Overall for the One X I would give 9 out of 10. The phone has fantastic hardware, and good software, but there are issues in the sense skin that needs to be ironed out. If the One X launched without any glitches and bugs, it would have been a straight 10 out 10 for me.
Price as Tested: INR 35850 ( 720 USD)
Price Now: INR 34500 ( 680 USD)
The PICS
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I pretty much agree with you you on most of the accounts, i do think the screen is slightly saturated, well greens do anyway lol
Speaker quality is pretty good and loud too. Not tried the head phones yet. I love the feel also, feels much better then the cheap plastic feel of the Samsung handsets. A note they should consider with this method of the plastic finish.
devvfata1ity said:
Audio quality
The audio quality during call is very good and better than both the desire hd and sgs2, however the iphone has slightly better quality overall. The music quality through headphones is unfortunately not that great. The desire hd IMO has better music quality. However its night and day better than the pathetic output of the sgs2.
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Do iphone headphones with the mic work with the audio jack of the one x? My old galaxy s i9000m had a weird configuration of the mic/ground/left/right pins on the 3.5mm jack so I could only use specific headphones (or I had to hold down the mic button to listen to music properly ).
Thanks for sharing your opinion
Personally I find the screen a little over saturated for my tastes. Audio wise, aside from the hiss I've had on headphones with an inline mic I find the quality to be very good.
I didn't expect audio to be good and wasn't planning to use it for music anyway.
However I did test and I thought the quality was really poor.
I am amazed that manufacturers pay so little attention to audio. My £20 Sansa Clip+ absolutely blows my ~£480 One X out of the water in terms of audio quality.
'Authentic audio'
audio quality isn't the best nor is it loud enough. I remember when HTC phones were very loud but since the days of desire they have turned the volume down for some reason.
Viewing angles are brilliant best i have seen.
I bought the grey/black version but found i was cleaning the back quite frequently, smudge marks you know. So now i have bought the white version also, see if that fairs any better. This of course means i'm quite happy overall with one x.
toastyy said:
Do iphone headphones with the mic work with the audio jack of the one x? My old galaxy s i9000m had a weird configuration of the mic/ground/left/right pins on the 3.5mm jack so I could only use specific headphones (or I had to hold down the mic button to listen to music properly ).
Thanks for sharing your opinion
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The iphone headset is working fine with my one X. I have tried different earphones with the One X (Bose, Shure, Sony, Creative, Kilpsch etc) and all were working as intended
riz157 said:
audio quality isn't the best nor is it loud enough. I remember when HTC phones were very loud but since the days of desire they have turned the volume down for some reason.
Viewing angles are brilliant best i have seen.
I bought the grey/black version but found i was cleaning the back quite frequently, smudge marks you know. So now i have bought the white version also, see if that fairs any better. This of course means i'm quite happy overall with one x.
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let me know your conclusion mate, i'm still split about this too
I have been using Htc One X from past one week with Sensation XL and undermentioned are my views
Ringtone of Sensation XL is much much louder than Of One X..More over there is glitch sound which comes from the speaker while making any selection, incoming calls or typing..
Any one else who has this error of glitch sound coming from HTC One X.
Calling and no reception issue in both.
Sensation XL's SLCD looks more brighter than HTC One X..HOX has high contrast with sharpness.
No doubt HSXL is looks much more royal but HOX is slim & light. Using is with a white back case bought from ebay makes it look good.
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i took the above pic with HTC ONE X.
i found the picture quality to be so so compared to my 4s.
may be i didn't set it right?
toastyy said:
Do iphone headphones with the mic work with the audio jack of the one x? My old galaxy s i9000m had a weird configuration of the mic/ground/left/right pins on the 3.5mm jack so I could only use specific headphones (or I had to hold down the mic button to listen to music properly ).
Thanks for sharing your opinion
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A Big Thank You!
looks like the Australian One XL "or at least the one i have... suffers from this issue"
but holding down the Mic button seemed to fix it.
I know this is not a great place to post this but when searching for One X washed sound this is the first thread to come up.
I will test with some more headsets later will start its own thread in relation to this issue
Also great review
OP updated with the final review
OP updated with pics
great review. the only thing plaguing current and future one x owners is the failure in production quality. ie. display and internal hardware issues.
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great review. the only thing plaguing current and future one x owners is the failure in production quality. ie. display and internal hardware issues.
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Every phone has some issues at launch that get ironed out over time with subsequent batches. I can clearly remember that the SGS2 (arguably the best android phone till 2011) had a lot of teething issues at launch. There were camera issues as well as display issues. It took samsung almost four months to completely iron out the issues.
The one x is a fabulous piece of kit. Admittedly it has a few issues, some due to hardware but mostly software. Its quite good that HTC has actually released 3 updates since launch. Later batches are largely free from defects but then again a lot of initial launch devices were trouble-free too.
We have warranty and these issues shouldnt really stop anyone from enjoying the X.
I am in a dilemma between the s3 and HOX but after reading your review it made me realize that to get the ultimate performance of the HTC phone,one must need a lot of luck.
What I mean is that you had to replace the handset 3 times because of the bugs and that could be a real deal breaker for people like me.I for one expect the phone to provide its full features on its first buy and till now I haven't read any issues with the s3 so far.Maybe I haven't read much about the topic but so far,haven't read anything issues at all.
The HOX is though a beauty with brains.There is no doubt that the HOX is one of the best looking smart phones out in the market and with the features it packs,it sure is a great phone to buy.
The only thing stopping me from buying this is the battery life and this topic is quite subjective.Those who will root will experience a tremendous battery life.I don't plan on rooting it and having read many user reviews about the battery life of an unrooted,I'd say 7 hours with moderate usage is the average life.
So again its all about luck and I don't know how lucky I may turn out.Its either the S3 or HOX for sure but still don't know which one to get.
techmania7 said:
I am in a dilemma between the s3 and HOX but after reading your review it made me realize that to get the ultimate performance of the HTC phone,one must need a lot of luck.
What I mean is that you had to replace the handset 3 times because of the bugs and that could be a real deal breaker for people like me.I for one expect the phone to provide its full features on its first buy and till now I haven't read any issues with the s3 so far.Maybe I haven't read much about the topic but so far,haven't read anything issues at all.
The HOX is though a beauty with brains.There is no doubt that the HOX is one of the best looking smart phones out in the market and with the features it packs,it sure is a great phone to buy.
The only thing stopping me from buying this is the battery life and this topic is quite subjective.Those who will root will experience a tremendous battery life.I don't plan on rooting it and having read many user reviews about the battery life of an unrooted,I'd say 7 hours with moderate usage is the average life.
So again its all about luck and I don't know how lucky I may turn out.Its either the S3 or HOX for sure but still don't know which one to get.
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I love the look of sense, which is why I I decided to switch from touchwiz to HTC, but like you I was and and still am sort of concerned about battery life. I'm not rooted and with my moderate / heavy use I get about 3 or a a little less than 3 hours of screen time. I am doing a few charge and discharge cycles t see if that will improve my battery life as recommended by a user on xda. I make it through the day without any problems, just have to charge it every night which is not problem because I just need a cell that can last me through my day and this device manages to do that so far.
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I love the look of sense, which is why I I decided to switch from touchwiz to HTC, but like you I was and and still am sort of concerned about battery life. I'm not rooted and with my moderate / heavy use I get about 3 or a a little less than 3 hours of screen time. I am doing a few charge and discharge cycles t see if that will improve my battery life as recommended by a user on xda. I make it through the day without any problems, just have to charge it every night which is not problem because I just need a cell that can last me through my day and this device manages to do that so far.
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Do you use a lot of apps and message constantly?If so then I think the battery performs quite well and brace yourself for a noob question.What does on screen time actually mean?3 hours long enough or does the S3 perform better than that?
Excellent review and great reading! i agree totally with it (apart from i was lucky enough to have a completely fault free handset so didn't have to get it replaced lol!)
techmania7 said:
Do you use a lot of apps and message constantly?If so then I think the battery performs quite well and brace yourself for a noob question.What does on screen time actually mean?3 hours long enough or does the S3 perform better than that?
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I use my phone mainly for texting, web browsing + youtube and reading the latest in the world of tech a.k.a. the pulse app. I don't however play a lot of games. Screen time means the total duration of time in which your screen is on for. I also use auto-brightness, disabled bloatware apps, and turned off auto-sync.
With all the bad press, reviews an bug reports on here latley i rekon it has put a lot of people off getting this awesome peice of kit so just to clear the air when all is said and done would you still get the One X again i would for sure
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snowwhite007 said:
With all the bad press, reviews an bug reports on here latley i rekon it has put a lot of people off getting this awesome peice of kit so just to clear the air when all is said and done would you still get the One X again i would for sure
Mod or Die
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It's not always that simple. There are three types of issues:
1) S/W which is correctable over time. HTC's future rests on the success of the One line so I have confidence the X will be updated as frequently as necessary. A lot of the issues reported seem (to me) to be s/w related.
2) H/W issues which fall in to two categories. The first being random production defects which don’t affect every device equally. The second category is consistent failings that affect every device (like the black One S's coating chipping off). The majority of h/w issues I've seen posted seem to fall in to the first category.
3) Design flaws. The Sensation antenna-gate issue is an example of this. So far the One X doesn't seem to have any of these.
Even with all that's been posted I ordered one that's due to arrive tomorrow. If it performs well, it stays. If it's flaky (beyond what's reasonable for a new device), it goes back.
Everyone's expectations are different and both the happy and unhappy need to be respected.
I like the phone and it will not be going back. There isn't a single phone on the market in my opinion that matches it when it comes to its combination of looks and specifications and shear wow factor. Its taken me almost 8 months to pick a phone that met all of my requirements after coming from the original Desire.
I am not a hard core phone gamer (But i can be if i want to be now), I am not someone that needs endless memory cards for tonnes of music and video (I have a PC for this, transfer rates are super fast, so it really isn't a hard ship, plus there is dropbox), I do not need a replaceable battery as I have a technet 7000mah portable which is great, its also just as portable as a spare battery anyway (Not that I have had any cause to use it yet).
I also have the white version, so shouldn't have any paint issues.
Yes it has Sense 4.0 which tends to hang every now and then, yes the video camera isn't as good as it will be, all of which are software, and WILL be fixed. Yes it has a rattle when you shake it like an idiot next to your ear, but I will never need to do that unless there is a Maraca app!
Its a mass produced product, as is the case with EVERYTHING mass produced there are batches that have faults and experience issues. Look at the mighty Apple I-Phone! Slight rant over
Yes of course ure correct thats why i feel people need a better idea of those who have the device are they happy knowing and waiting for fixes or would they have choosing different. My reason for post is that theres a lit of people went down the one S route due to all the posts here. Of course there is reason to complain just wanted people to no that im sure there are others like me happy knowing that the fixes will come an the device is great
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The difference in price between the S and X isn't that far apart. I think I would get a sense of buyers remorse 6 months down the line if I went for the S.
jaspabt said:
Yes it has a rattle when you shake it like an idiot next to your ear, but I will never need to do that unless there is a Maraca app!
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best post so far i seen here on these forums
but on a serious note i love my phone and i would recommend it to people no matter what. i know i had a few problems with my phones but it is due to me being picky..but overall it is a beautiful phone to have and would recommend it to many more people..and i exchanging my white version for the grey...saw my mates one and it looks more damn sexier than the white
Don't know what people are whinging about.
IT IS THE BEST SMARTPHONE ON THE MARKET
There, I've said it.
NoobTerminator said:
best post so far i seen here on these forums
but on a serious note i love my phone and i would recommend it to people no matter what. i know i had a few problems with my phones but it is due to me being picky..but overall it is a beautiful phone to have and would recommend it to many more people..and i exchanging my white version for the grey...saw my mates one and it looks more damn sexier than the white
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I was going to order white, then I changed my order for grey. Then I was having second thoughts so I went to look at them both in a shop before my order arrived. So glad I went for grey now
DaveDesire said:
Don't know what people are whinging about.
IT IS THE BEST SMARTPHONE ON THE MARKET
There, I've said it.
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forget it just saw the actual post now why you quoted me
Good thread. I was surprised to find so many negative comments about the One X on here. It's cutting edge, possibly even bleeding... I bought mine in the knowledge that there may be some teething problems, but I'm more likely to still have something "current" in 18 months as the 2 year contract nears it's end. There are't many phone's that is true of.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
OneXuser said:
Good thread. I was surprised to find so many negative comments about the One X on here. It's cutting edge, possibly even bleeding... I bought mine in the knowledge that there may be some teething problems, but I'm more likely to still have something "current" in 18 months as the 2 year contract nears it's end. There are't many phone's that is true of.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
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Exactly it will be long while before theres are more powerful phone around and i cant wait to see what devs are cooking
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I came to the One X from a Desire. This is my 3rd HTC mobile and I've loved all of them. I have really enjoyed having the Desire and it's been superb for build quality, reliability and always looked great. Having dozens of lovely roms to play with once it was rooted made all the difference after I became bored with Sense.
So, it was a no brainer for me to choose the One X. Quad core, Tegra 3, that lovely huge, curved screen and ICS were too good to pass up. The phone is stunning and I was most surprised at the looks when I put it beside my Desire. There really is no comparison at all.
It's incredibly fast. I've never used a phone so quick before. The new minimalist Sense is a joy to use and ICS is a great improvement for Android. The screen feels like silk to touch and hasn't attracted much in the way of fingerprints at all. It's lovely to use, very responsive, accurate and image quality is mind blowingly good. Although I don't have the official headphones, Beats Audio does sound fab through a pair of Sennheisers. It ramps up the bass, which is the weakest part of the closed back headphones I have. And so on and on. This mobile is amazing in many ways.
That's the pro's. The con's are:
1. Screen and case don't match up properly. There's a minute gap between the screen and the case along the top and down the left side of mine. This is not normal and classed as a fault by HTC (I asked them). After only 1wk, there's a tiny white strand of cloth under my screen. It can't be seen until the screen is black and it's in the corner. But, as I said to T-Mobile and HTC on the phone today; if it's collected something under the screen after 1wk, what is it going to look like after a few months? HTC said it's a definite fault and should be returned for a replacement. I will be doing so next week.
2. Gripes with the Tegra 3 performance. I know others have seen this on a few games, but for my Desire to easily outperform this phone when playing Stair Dismount is a real disappointment. Secret Exit Ltd answered my request for help earlier very quickly, so I'm really chuffed that a dev is prepared to at least try. I'm not sure whether this is something to do with the game or the phone, so will wait and see. Still a pain though. Interestingly, Stair Dismount also plays very well on my ASUS Transformer, which has Tegra 2.
3. Slight worry about the power button. As the Desire had other hardware buttons, I could assign one of those to wake the phone to take the strain off the power button being used so much. Not possible with this phone. I'm hoping it will be ok.
4. The camera lens cover. If it were Gorilla glass, I'd be happy. If it were recessed enough to not be threatened with being scratched every time I put down my phone, it wouldn't be a problem. So, it begs the question: why the hell did they make the lens cover out of simple glass and the rest of the case out of materials seemingly unbreakable in normal use? Very bad design decision.
5. Lack of external memory could become an issue. Yes, 32Gb is pretty huge. But, so are many of the new games, with 200Mb becoming more common. Not to mention the capability of the phone to play HD content. I also rip music for mobile playing as flac or at least 320k mp3. This makes an album anything up to 800+Mb in size. The internal memory won't take much to fill. None of these are really that big a deal for me, so I'm just being picky with this one!
I've heard various mentions of the battery life being poor on the One X. Considering what this phone does, I'm reasonably happy with having comparable performance as I had with the HTC Desire. Generally, with moderate-heavy use, I'm beginning to think about charging late evening after taking it off charge when I get up in the morning. That's fine by me. I carry a Veho Pebble in my car, so can always put the mobile on charge when I'm out anyway.
I think that's it
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I came to the One X from a Desire. This is my 3rd HTC mobile and I've loved all of them. I have really enjoyed having the Desire and it's been superb for build quality, reliability and always looked great. Having dozens of lovely roms to play with once it was rooted made all the difference after I became bored with Sense.
So, it was a no brainer for me to choose the One X. Quad core, Tegra 3, that lovely huge, curved screen and ICS were too good to pass up. The phone is stunning and I was most surprised at the looks when I put it beside my Desire. There really is no comparison at all.
It's incredibly fast. I've never used a phone so quick before. The new minimalist Sense is a joy to use and ICS is a great improvement for Android. The screen feels like silk to touch and hasn't attracted much in the way of fingerprints at all. It's lovely to use, very responsive, accurate and image quality is mind blowingly good. Although I don't have the official headphones, Beats Audio does sound fab through a pair of Sennheisers. It ramps up the bass, which is the weakest part of the closed back headphones I have. And so on and on. This mobile is amazing in many ways.
That's the pro's. The con's are:
1. Screen and case don't match up properly. There's a minute gap between the screen and the case along the top and down the left side of mine. This is not normal and classed as a fault by HTC (I asked them). After only 1wk, there's a tiny white strand of cloth under my screen. It can't be seen until the screen is black and it's in the corner. But, as I said to T-Mobile and HTC on the phone today; if it's collected something under the screen after 1wk, what is it going to look like after a few months? HTC said it's a definite fault and should be returned for a replacement. I will be doing so next week.
2. Gripes with the Tegra 3 performance. I know others have seen this on a few games, but for my Desire to easily outperform this phone when playing Stair Dismount is a real disappointment. Secret Exit Ltd answered my request for help earlier very quickly, so I'm really chuffed that a dev is prepared to at least try. I'm not sure whether this is something to do with the game or the phone, so will wait and see. Still a pain though. Interestingly, Stair Dismount also plays very well on my ASUS Transformer, which has Tegra 2.
3. Slight worry about the power button. As the Desire had other hardware buttons, I could assign one of those to wake the phone to take the strain off the power button being used so much. Not possible with this phone. I'm hoping it will be ok.
4. The camera lens cover. If it were Gorilla glass, I'd be happy. If it were recessed enough to not be threatened with being scratched every time I put down my phone, it wouldn't be a problem. So, it begs the question: why the hell did they make the lens cover out of simple glass and the rest of the case out of materials seemingly unbreakable in normal use? Very bad design decision.
5. Lack of external memory could become an issue. Yes, 32Gb is pretty huge. But, so are many of the new games, with 200Mb becoming more common. Not to mention the capability of the phone to play HD content. I also rip music for mobile playing as flac or at least 320k mp3. This makes an album anything up to 800+Mb in size. The internal memory won't take much to fill. None of these are really that big a deal for me, so I'm just being picky with this one!
I've heard various mentions of the battery life being poor on the One X. Considering what this phone does, I'm reasonably happy with having comparable performance as I had with the HTC Desire. Generally, with moderate-heavy use, I'm beginning to think about charging late evening after taking it off charge when I get up in the morning. That's fine by me. I carry a Veho Pebble in my car, so can always put the mobile on charge when I'm out anyway.
I think that's it
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I think you have it spot on. Luckily I have no issues with my screen and no dust collected anywhere. Using a pouch to keep it nice and safe and it survived a small drop. I don't understand the decision not to make lens from gorilla glass unless its something to do with picture quality. Ordered a flip case as a good work around. I am just debating if I should sell desire or keep as a backup phone
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It's not always that simple. There are three types of issues:
1) S/W which is correctable over time. HTC's future rests on the success of the One line so I have confidence the X will be updated as frequently as necessary. A lot of the issues reported seem (to me) to be s/w related.
2) H/W issues which fall in to two categories. The first being random production defects which don’t affect every device equally. The second category is consistent failings that affect every device (like the black One S's coating chipping off). The majority of h/w issues I've seen posted seem to fall in to the first category.
3) Design flaws. The Sensation antenna-gate issue is an example of this. So far the One X doesn't seem to have any of these.
Even with all that's been posted I ordered one that's due to arrive tomorrow. If it performs well, it stays. If it's flaky (beyond what's reasonable for a new device), it goes back.
Everyone's expectations are different and both the happy and unhappy need to be respected.
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Search for HTC One X Antenna Reception Test at Youtube. I have tried it myself and indeed the signal did dropped. Does that count as design flaw?
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I have tried it myself and indeed the signal did dropped. Does that count as design flaw?
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Seriously? A 10% dBm drop is, in your mind, a "design flaw?" If you're looking for something to be concerned about the YouTube poster's best performance at 89 dBm is pretty atrocious. Two floors away from my router I get better results on my SGS2. The weaker the signal the more any device will be impacted by obstructions (like bone). You'll see drops and gains like that simply by changing the phone's orientation to the router. As devices get thinner with more and more stuffed in to them antenna placement gets more complicated to avoid interference. That video doesn't concern me a bit (unless 89 dBm is typical Wi-Fi performance).
Had mine for 8 days now, it has no rattle that i've noticed, the screen glitches occasinally in browser, it sense restarts fairly often, battery life imo is decent my stats are typical of others. I had a single occasion where died/crashed, no power button or at least not the usual one press so held it and a small dialogue came up after a while saying 'hold for 2 more seconds to restart' which i did and the fone restarted fine, oh and i've had a single overheat whilst streaming a movie.
I had an early release hero which had some serious bugs which improved dramatically and an early desire s which i found pretty much ironed out from the start.
I'm very happy with my one x overall as any issues it has are teething problems which can be sorted.
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by Android Central
https://www.androidcentral.com/lg-v30-review
Thanks. Very in-depth review.
Just replying to the "summary":
THE GOOD
Slick design and lightweight chassis.
Smooth, responsive performance and great haptics.
Excellent rear cameras, including best-in-class wide-angle shooter.
Quad DAC delivers phenomenal wired audio quality.
THE BAD
Glass back prone to scratching. (That's why we have TPU cases)
Display has contrast issues at darker brightness levels. (Pre-production model, so may be fixed -- and boost the brightness, duh.)
Front-facing camera is just OK. (I can live with that.)
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Review by GSM Arena!!
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_v30-review-1657.php
Not sure why they insist on reviewing pre-production model... But reading through it seems.to be a so so phone according to the reviews... With battery life being questioned all round
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Not sure why they insist on reviewing pre-production model... But reading through it seems.to be a so so phone according to the reviews... With battery life being questioned all round
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ALL the reviews I've read says it's a fantastic phone, and probably the best phone out at the moment. Read the review linked at top, for instance.
rivals.
The V30's going to have its work cut out going up against the Note 8s and Pixels and iPhones of the world when it launches. But for the moment, it's easily among the best Android phones I've used, and has every chance of being a sleeper hit for late 2017.
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Or this one:
http://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/artic...erb-photos-and-gorgeous-display-top-hard-beat
Alternate URL:
http://m.scmp.com/lifestyle/article...erb-photos-and-gorgeous-display-top-hard-beat
The V30’s f/1.6 camera aperture excels in low light situations, while hi-fi audio capabilities, a large OLED display and smart UI tweaks are going to make it difficult for upcoming devices from Apple and Samsung to match
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ALL the reviews I've read says it's a fantastic phone, and probably the best phone out at the moment. Read the review linked at top, for instance.
rivals.
Or this one:
http://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/artic...erb-photos-and-gorgeous-display-top-hard-beat
Alternate URL:
http://m.scmp.com/lifestyle/article...erb-photos-and-gorgeous-display-top-hard-beat
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Thanks for the South China Morning Post review. Pretty direct and to the point. And consistent with just about every review I have read.
Disappointed it is now being touted as a hybrid sim. I had high hopes we would finally have a high spec dual sim + dedicated SD on the market !
-still stuck with my LG G4 (H818P), which i love, but want something speedier now.
Anyone else notice that despite this phone being out on retail as long as it has been, none of the top Android sites have posted a review yet?
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Anyone else notice that despite this phone being out on retail as long as it has been, none of the top Android sites have posted a review yet?
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Hey, I noticed that you have the V30 on tmobile and you're from Missouri. Have you had time to travel in some of the rural areas? It's the first phone with band 71 600mhz and is supposed to be part of tmobile's rural push. As a resident of BFE North Central Missouri, curious as to your coverage when out and about?
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Anyone else notice that despite this phone being out on retail as long as it has been, none of the top Android sites have posted a review yet?
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it's been out like 10 days retail. Don't most sites do 2-week reviews? And they have to write it up. Expect some by this weekend or early next week.
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Hey, I noticed that you have the V30 on tmobile and you're from Missouri. Have you had time to travel in some of the rural areas? It's the first phone with band 71 600mhz and is supposed to be part of tmobile's rural push. As a resident of BFE North Central Missouri, curious as to your coverage when out and about?
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I don't get out to rural Missouri much. Most of my travel outside of KC is out west through Kansas to Colorado (which has holes in native coverage counter to what the map shows) or south to Arkansas. Most of that route is pretty much covered already. I think Missouri Band 71 isn't slated to be completed until 2019?
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it's been out like 10 days retail. Don't most sites do 2-week reviews? And they have to write it up. Expect some by this weekend or early next week.
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I'm seeing Pixel reviews pop-up already and only the smaller one is even shipping yet. (And that's ship, not even in hands.) I swear up and down that I even had a video pop up in my youtube feed last week from one of the main sites but I never saw an actual post for it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=74219297
The screen dimming issues still there but not as bad as pre production. Still see cold spots when completely dim thanks to auto adjustments. In a dark room, the screen gets way to dark in my opinion.
My main gripe here is the front glass.
I had my LG v30 for five days at home. Never pocketed with anything and today I noticed three little scratched dead center top of phone. Wondering if I can trade it in. I had my HTC one m8 for 3.5 years before I got my first scratch. T-Mobile service.
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The screen dimming issues still there but not as bad as pre production. Still see cold spots when completely dim thanks to auto adjustments. In a dark room, the screen gets way to dark in my opinion.
My main gripe here is the front glass.
I had my LG v30 for five days at home. Never pocketed with anything and today I noticed three little scratched dead center top of phone. Wondering if I can trade it in. I had my HTC one m8 for 3.5 years before I got my first scratch. T-Mobile service.
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Trade it in, as in "get a replacement"?
I hardly doubt it.
Would you take a phone back that someone scratched?
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Trade it in, as in "get a replacement"?
I hardly doubt it.
Would you take a phone back that someone scratched?
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This is a why screen protectors exist. It doesn't take much to scratch glass, even if it's Gorilla Glass 5.
Picked up a V30+. Loving it so far. My first Impressions Plus camera samples https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/01/0...adphone-jack-with-quad-dac-wireless-charging/
I love the HTC One M8. I've had mine for about 2.5 years now and it has worked well. Battery life is still good. If the camera took higher resolution photos and the processor was a little faster, I'd stick with it. This is my 3rd HTC phone. I never buy a phone right after it is released, preferring to see how well it is liked after the first year or two. The M9 was pretty much a disaster, so I left that out of consideration. Then there's the HTC 10.
The HTC 10 looked to be everything I want in a phone, going from the M8. It has good reviews and is recommended as a used phone. But... I didn't do enough homework and unfortunately discovered it has some serious problems. I was one of the unlucky ones. I bought a great condition HTC 10 and thought I'd gotten a good deal. The screen is noticeably richer in color, brighter, and processor speed is faster. But I ran into that nasty battery problem. It shuts down at around 25% and goes into a boot loop that won't quit until you plug in the phone. That's when I went on-line and looked up this problem... much to my dismay, discovering that this is a pretty common problem with no simple fix. I'm in the process of dealing with the seller to return the phone.
Now that I've witnessed this nightmare first hand, I'm very leery of trying this again, buying another used HTC 10. At this point, the U11 is still too new and costly. Frankly, I really don't see a good path... except maybe a Samsung S7. But I've never liked Samsung phones. I much prefer HTC Sense.
I'm wondering if I should just hang onto my One M8 for another year and see how things go with the U11. Or maybe consider a Google Pixel 2.
If you were an owner of a One M8 and upgraded to a better phone, which one did you choose and are you happy with it?
I'd say stick with M8 until it dies, there's really no better replacement for this phone except 10, but as you said it's hit or miss.
U11 definitely isn't a bad phone, but it doesn't have the soul of older HTCs IMO.
Also it really depends what thing in phone do you need the most - build quality and materials? speed? audio quality? overall experience?
ZTE Axon 7 is a solid all rounder and should feel like an upgrade of everything in M8. It's a bit old now though, but if age or manufacturer doesn't concern you then it should be a good choice.
Galaxy S7 also isn't that bad. Hardware wise S series are always one of the best - great camera and display, however it's a Samsung, so due to it's heavy UI it's slower than comparable phones.
OnePlus 5T has four pros - price, speed, ram and metal unibody. Apart from those it really doesn't stand out.
My next phone for 90% is LG V30 - it's pretty much a great all rounder with focus on audio and camera/video quality and that's what interest me the most.
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I'd say stick with M8 until it dies, there's really no better replacement for this phone except 10, but as you said it's hit or miss. U11 definitely isn't a bad phone, but it doesn't have the soul of older HTCs IMO.
Also it really depends what thing in phone do you need the most - build quality and materials? speed? audio quality? overall experience?
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While I'm not a heavy camera/video user, I'd like to have better hardware. The M8 employs this dual 4MP lens design that, while good for its day, is lagging far behind now. All of those factors are important for me: build quality/materials, system and video speed, audio quality, and user experience. The M8 has a great user experience and generally performs quickly, with really terrific audio quality. The screen looks fine, but next to an HTC 10? It's not as bright and quite as color rich.
ZTE Axon 7 is a solid all rounder and should feel like an upgrade of everything in M8. It's a bit old now though, but if age or manufacturer doesn't concern you then it should be a good choice.
Galaxy S7 also isn't that bad. Hardware wise S series are always one of the best - great camera and display, however it's a Samsung, so due to it's heavy UI it's slower than comparable phones.
OnePlus 5T has four pros - price, speed, ram and metal unibody. Apart from those it really doesn't stand out.
My next phone for 90% is LG V30 - it's pretty much a great all rounder with focus on audio and camera/video quality and that's what interest me the most.
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I've not warmed up to these other brands, like ZTE, Huawei, OnePlus. Comparably they've not been on the market for very long. I've read about reliability issues after a couple years of ownership, so getting one of those used is outside my consideration.
Two of my family members have Samsung Galaxy phones, and I can't stand their UI. It's utterly ridiculous how they bury mobile data access control. You should be able to 1) double-finger swipe down, and 2) uncheck mobile data. That's how HTC works. But with Samsung, you've got to swipe, click, swipe, click, swipe, click to get to the mobile data control. They probably did that as a "friend to the carrier" so you'll use up more mobile data because it's too much of a pain to turn it off. Screw that. Of course, you could install a widget for controlling that... but it takes up real estate and it's simply illogical--this should be accessible from the swipe-down menu.
I have to say, I'd looked at the LG V30 and was considering it... until I read LG V30 REVIEW: GROUNDBREAKING PHONE WITH A DEAL-BREAKING FLAW. Screen resolution, clarity, and color rendition is important to me, and the V30 drops the ball. I did look at it compared directly to a couple other phones in a cellular phone store, and I have to agree it's not on par with the competition.
Honestly many smartphones nowadays have some type of problems, it's a gamble to get a perfect one.
As the review said, V30 has bad OLED display, but it's not 100% chance that every model will be as bad and that's what I'm hoping for when I get one.
Pixel 2 phones also had issues with display and some other things. Some of them got fixed with software upgrade, but not all of them, you should look into it.
Can't really think of any other solid phones that could be a good upgrade over M8 and not too expensive. Maybe something from Sony? I've thought about Xperia XZ Premium for a long time myself - hardware wise it's pretty good and their UI is very simple. The size is what put me off - it's just too big to be comfortable, V30 with half an inch bigger display feels pretty snug in hand.
That said, maybe the smaller XZ or XZ1 might be a better choice.
If not then I guess you could think about U11 - it's definitely not a bad phone, but different than M8. If you could accept it's cons it would be a pretty good choice.
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Honestly many smartphones nowadays have some type of problems, it's a gamble to get a perfect one.
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No doubt at all. I'm not expecting perfection, only issues that I can live with. The HTC 10 isn't perfect, but without the reported battery issue it would be my choice for now. If I could find a totally checked out excellent condition example for about $150, I'd be happy. I'd even consider $195, for refurbished/like-new with warranty. In my book, $500~$600 for a new phone is too much. $300~$350 is about right. Back when the Evo 3D was still in play, if the battery was faulty all you'd have to do is swap it out. Unfortunately everyone has moved to these embedded batteries. It really sucks. Was a slim case that compelling enough to do it? I'd rather have a phone where half of it is thicker to house the removable battery. Far easier to manage. But, I think the ulterior motive was control. Now cellular phone makers don't have to worry about non-OEM / 3rd party questionable batteries being used in their phones. What they could have done is make intelligent batteries with circuitry required for usage, something a clone battery maker can't copy.
As the review said, V30 has bad OLED display, but it's not 100% chance that every model will be as bad and that's what I'm hoping for when I get one. Pixel 2 phones also had issues with display and some other things. Some of them got fixed with software upgrade, but not all of them, you should look into it.
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It might have been a production batch issue... you'd have to look at other reviews. I did hear about the Google Pixel 2 having some issues but it looks like they were successfully addressed. And they're more readily apparent and easier to verify than something like a vague battery issue.
The U11 is a very nice phone, but too pricey for me right now. However, the U12 comes out in May. Maybe I'll wait until then for a U11 price drop.
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I love the HTC One M8. I've had mine for about 2.5 years now and it has worked well. Battery life is still good. If the camera took higher resolution photos and the processor was a little faster, I'd stick with it. This is my 3rd HTC phone. I never buy a phone right after it is released, preferring to see how well it is liked after the first year or two. The M9 was pretty much a disaster, so I left that out of consideration. Then there's the HTC 10.
The HTC 10 looked to be everything I want in a phone, going from the M8. It has good reviews and is recommended as a used phone. But... I didn't do enough homework and unfortunately discovered it has some serious problems. I was one of the unlucky ones. I bought a great condition HTC 10 and thought I'd gotten a good deal. The screen is noticeably richer in color, brighter, and processor speed is faster. But I ran into that nasty battery problem. It shuts down at around 25% and goes into a boot loop that won't quit until you plug in the phone. That's when I went on-line and looked up this problem... much to my dismay, discovering that this is a pretty common problem with no simple fix. I'm in the process of dealing with the seller to return the phone.
Now that I've witnessed this nightmare first hand, I'm very leery of trying this again, buying another used HTC 10. At this point, the U11 is still too new and costly. Frankly, I really don't see a good path... except maybe a Samsung S7. But I've never liked Samsung phones. I much prefer HTC Sense.
I'm wondering if I should just hang onto my One M8 for another year and see how things go with the U11. Or maybe consider a Google Pixel 2.
If you were an owner of a One M8 and upgraded to a better phone, which one did you choose and are you happy with it?
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I'm in the same boat as you are. I love my M8, but with some of the new technology out there, and with the M8 still sporting Android 6 (I've tried Oreo - don't really like it), I was a hair away from buying the U11. But I just couldn't see spending $600 for a new phone.
Then I looked at the Moto z2 Force - a great phone with specs similar to the U11. And I can get the Motorola for about $375.00
To me, there is one main "con" for each of these phones:
Moto: Not water or dust resistant (U11 is)
U11: Price is high
Both: No headphone jack
If the Motorola had an IP67 or 68 rating, I'd get it in a heartbeat.
And if the U11 price went down to, say, $400, I'd grab it right away.
To me, those are the two strongest candidates. And the Moto has mods (if that interests you).
I love Sense, and it's able to be added to most phones now, but it's not the same as being built-in.
I love the M8 and has been my all-time favorite phone. I've since moved on to LG V10 and V20, but there are weeks where I pop out my sim card and throw into my M8. Battery on my M8 is still just as good as my V20, and the M8 is just that perfect phone. I wish they could have squeezed a 5.2 inch display and while I loved the Ultra Pixel in its day, its still not bad. In fact I used it over Easter, and in doors I grabbed some great photos that probably would have been hard for my V20 in lower light.
I've also thought of actually selling my V20 and picking up an HTC 10. I've been watching all the phones that come into Swappa. Personally I'm not into the all glass phone trend, so the U11 isn't really an option.
However the only thing that holds me back from picking up a 10 is I'm just not happy with the front design. It reminds me too much of a mash up between an iPhone and an Galaxy S6/S7. I realize that was intentional by HTC, as they had great success with the A9, which was mostly an iPhone clone. But when I see the 10 in a case(which is probably what I'd do), it just kind of loses that unique HTC design touch that was great with the M7-M9. Although I do love Sense as a skin.
I don't think I'll ever let go of the M8.
Hi guys, could anyone tell where to buy an m8 or 10 for cheap right now? Any suggestions plz?
I sold my m8 an year ago for a note 3; I'm tired of the sammy now, and wish to get rid of it.
I checked some Aliexpress listings, but they come off as a bit shady and untrustworthy?
Any reliable sources to grab one of these?(I live in South Asia)
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Hi guys, could anyone tell where to buy an m8 or 10 for cheap right now? Any suggestions plz?
I sold my m8 an year ago for a note 3; I'm tired of the sammy now, and wish to get rid of it.
I checked some Aliexpress listings, but they come off as a bit shady and untrustworthy?
Any reliable sources to grab one of these?(I live in South Asia)
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Maybe try Swappa? Someone might do international shipping for you. Most are pretty cheap.
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Maybe try Swappa? Someone might do international shipping for you. Most are pretty cheap.
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The problem with Swappa is exactly with the shipping scene, they just won't ship the device to any international location outside the States. This seemed to be the case at least with the M8 and 10.
Thanks for your suggestion though
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The problem with Swappa is exactly with the shipping scene, they just won't ship the device to any international location outside the States. This seemed to be the case at least with the M8 and 10.
Thanks for your suggestion though
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That is too bad. How about eBay?
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dhrjbhtt0 said:
Hi guys, could anyone tell where to buy an m8 or 10 for cheap right now? Any suggestions plz?
I sold my m8 an year ago for a note 3; I'm tired of the sammy now, and wish to get rid of it.
I checked some Aliexpress listings, but they come off as a bit shady and untrustworthy?
Any reliable sources to grab one of these?(I live in South Asia)
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Don't you have a local online selling site? Most often it's the fastest and reliable way to get things cheaper.
Phalangioides said:
Don't you have a local online selling site? Most often it's the fastest and reliable way to get things cheaper.
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The closest are the Chinese retailers(I'm in India) through Aliexpress, as any of the online retailers like Amazon and Flipkart do not sell the M8 anymore and the HTC 10 is priced unreasonably high, priced at 490ish usd.
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I love the M8 and has been my all-time favorite phone. I've since moved on to LG V10 and V20, but there are weeks where I pop out my sim card and throw into my M8. Battery on my M8 is still just as good as my V20, and the M8 is just that perfect phone. I wish they could have squeezed a 5.2 inch display and while I loved the Ultra Pixel in its day, its still not bad. In fact I used it over Easter, and in doors I grabbed some great photos that probably would have been hard for my V20 in lower light.
I've also thought of actually selling my V20 and picking up an HTC 10. I've been watching all the phones that come into Swappa. Personally I'm not into the all glass phone trend, so the U11 isn't really an option.
However the only thing that holds me back from picking up a 10 is I'm just not happy with the front design. It reminds me too much of a mash up between an iPhone and an Galaxy S6/S7. I realize that was intentional by HTC, as they had great success with the A9, which was mostly an iPhone clone. But when I see the 10 in a case(which is probably what I'd do), it just kind of loses that unique HTC design touch that was great with the M7-M9. Although I do love Sense as a skin.
I don't think I'll ever let go of the M8.
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Nice to see another member here with great appreciation for the M8. Phones like this often get easily dismissed as obsolete tech, but I don't think the M8 lags behind all that badly. It's another story when looking at the M8 over the Evo 3D though!
Side-by-side, the HTC 10 screen looks nicer than the M8. It's brighter, more vibrant colors, and you can tell it has a faster processor. It's not a huge difference, but enough to notice when they're adjacent. But take away the HTC 10, and the M8 starts looking good again. To be blunt, I don't know why people get bent out of shape by bezels. I think they look fine on the M8. And really, the back panel doesn't matter all that much because most people use cases. I could not use my One M8 without one, because it's too slippery and that brushed metal back would get dented/scratched. Being in a case has kept it in excellent shape. I use a translucent TPU case, so you can still see the back a bit while enjoying protection.
Generally the way I operate is to always keep a spare phone as a backup, in case I lose my main phone or run into an issue that I can't easily fix/recover. The spare one is quick and easy to activate, so I don't suffer much down-time. I don't want to be forced to run out to a store and pay top dollar for a new phone. When I misplaced my M8, I reactivated my old Evo 3D. And while it did the job, it was... painful. That thing is just too old now. So I was thinking should I get another M8... or upgrade to an HTC 10. That's when I ran into that battery problem on a gently used HTC 10 that threw my plan in the trash. Given how many people have reported the battery issue, I'm now leery of buying from a reseller that unloads large batches of phones with just minimal testing performed. They're not going to do the 1 hour HTC battery test. And when a seller can't answer your questions well for suffering with English as a 3rd language, it makes it risky.
I checked out Swappa, but didn't see anyone in my immediate area with an HTC 10 for a reasonable price.
cytherian said:
Nice to see another member here with great appreciation for the M8. Phones like this often get easily dismissed as obsolete tech, but I don't think the M8 lags behind all that badly. It's another story when looking at the M8 over the Evo 3D though!
Side-by-side, the HTC 10 screen looks nicer than the M8. It's brighter, more vibrant colors, and you can tell it has a faster processor. It's not a huge difference, but enough to notice when they're adjacent. But take away the HTC 10, and the M8 starts looking good again. To be blunt, I don't know why people get bent out of shape by bezels. I think they look fine on the M8. And really, the back panel doesn't matter all that much because most people use cases. I could not use my One M8 without one, because it's too slippery and that brushed metal back would get dented/scratched. Being in a case has kept it in excellent shape. I use a translucent TPU case, so you can still see the back a bit while enjoying protection.
Generally the way I operate is to always keep a spare phone as a backup, in case I lose my main phone or run into an issue that I can't easily fix/recover. The spare one is quick and easy to activate, so I don't suffer much down-time. I don't want to be forced to run out to a store and pay top dollar for a new phone. When I misplaced my M8, I reactivated my old Evo 3D. And while it did the job, it was... painful. That thing is just too old now. So I was thinking should I get another M8... or upgrade to an HTC 10. That's when I ran into that battery problem on a gently used HTC 10 that threw my plan in the trash. Given how many people have reported the battery issue, I'm now leery of buying from a reseller that unloads large batches of phones with just minimal testing performed. They're not going to do the 1 hour HTC battery test. And when a seller can't answer your questions well for suffering with English as a 3rd language, it makes it risky.
I checked out Swappa, but didn't see anyone in my immediate area with an HTC 10 for a reasonable price.
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I'm in a similar boat as you mate, can't find a legit place to but an m8 or 10 here in South Asia for cheap
PLz tell me if u find someone who does international shipping of either of these two.
Has anyone over here bought any HTC device from aliexpress?
I'm planning on buying an HTC 10 from over there, but don't have any past experiences with any of the sellers over there.
The price seems fine, just north of 250usd.
Any idea anyone might have?
My m8 had a bad battery after all the years of heavy usage, hundreds/countless drops to all kinds of grounds even fell in water a few times.It looks really really bad from the outside,completely full of ditches and scratches and other strange markings, I even managed to "pull/curl" a kind of sharp edge out on a small spot of the aluminum on the back through a drop.But besides that it was/is shutting down between 40-75% everything was working completely fine,so I really didn't want any other phone but an htc after that proof of ruggedness/solidness either.
I also got a dead m9 here that just one day to the other shut off and completely died over time,not even a led is blinking anymore and it's only lifesign is plugged into a PC where it shows up as a Qualcomm service hub, but all that is a different story,just wanted to mention that experience with HTC.
I lived with that m8 then for quite a time and nearly ended up buying another new/refurbished m8/9/10 but then i found the ZTE axon 7 to be my perfect replacement,as it was the only phone with good sounding/loud front facing speakers and an all aluminum body,also I wanted to have a slightly bigger screen and the other advantages of the zte didn't seem bad either.So I bought a used axon for 150€ and even though it has its own faults, like the buttons, I wouldn't change back to the m8 for my daily,not even with a factory new battery.
Hope that wasn't too much to read through
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My advice is to wait a little longer, check out U12 and even pixel 3, maybe oneplus 6 (I am notch hater, but maybe you are not).
I'm thinking of picking up a used M9, just to sort of complete what I think is the perfect trifecta of HTC phones. M7, M8, M9.
Yeah, for camera needs I turn to my V20/V10s, but for aesthetics, I don't think any phone comes close to the M series.
M9 could have been a great phone if they had just used a better sensor and thrown in OIS.
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7 years old, my HTC M8 is finally starting to fail. Dot-view now mal-functions, and I can't upgrade anything else without a significant decrease in speed.
I am genuinely happy with this phone. The 'dot-view' function was groundbreaking for its time, as was the body armour that supported it.
I am unsure whether to consider another phone, or upgrade to the HTC 12