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just planning to get 1, but not sure about simlock thing, any1 knows? cheers!
There is a thread somewhere, might be on Voda eForum.
Device is unlocked, apparently Voda never lock their handsets.
Very true, Voda TP2 is unlocked.
I was using my O2 sim while waiting for the number transfer.
svyatko said:
Very true, Voda TP2 is unlocked.
I was using my O2 sim while waiting for the number transfer.
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thats what im doing at the moment - only thing no web or email at the mo as the phone has the vodaphone internet settings on it
hi there I got mine from mobiles direct on a vodafone and is has no branding on it not even sim lock but I dont know about vodafone themselfs though. sorry
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just planning to get 1, but not sure about simlock thing, any1 knows? cheers!
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voda tp2 is unlocked as confirmed by ma mate stunno! phone is however voda branded to the hilt so its up to you if ya not bothered with their branding! due to demand for tp2 they had no time to simlock the device prior to release. they however simlock most of their handsets!
shingers5 said:
voda tp2 is unlocked as confirmed by ma mate stunno! phone is however voda branded to the hilt so its up to you if ya not bothered with their branding! due to demand for tp2 they had no time to simlock the device prior to release. they however simlock most of their handsets!
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I've had several Voda handsets, none of them have ever been locked
TP2, Samsung's, Sony Ericsson's, Nokia's, none of them locked.
There is a post somewhere on their eForum somewhere that says they have a policy of not locking their handsets, couldn't find it but did find this:
'Except for the BlackBerry Storm, we will supply a Network Unlock Code (NUC) for you if you've bought a phone from us on either pay monthly or pay as you go. A NUC allows you to use non-Vodafone SIM cards with your Vodafone phone.'
So even if it was locked they would provide you with the code
Philio25 said:
I've had several Voda handsets, none of them have ever been locked
TP2, Samsung's, Sony Ericsson's, Nokia's, none of them locked.
There is a post somewhere on their eForum somewhere that says they have a policy of not locking their handsets, couldn't find it but did find this:
'Except for the BlackBerry Storm, we will supply a Network Unlock Code (NUC) for you if you've bought a phone from us on either pay monthly or pay as you go. A NUC allows you to use non-Vodafone SIM cards with your Vodafone phone.'
So even if it was locked they would provide you with the code
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mate ring them again............NUC(network unlock codes) cost £20 so you get what you paid for! not all voda phones come unlocked as i am sure they will confirm. i have had many many phones from voda and all locked...........n95 8gig being a popular one, f490, s700 to name a few! i know what i am talking about mate as i own a phone shop!
why do you think mobile shops make so much money from unlocking................... some handsets do come unlocked but only a few and will defo be on contract and not pay and go!
I've never asked them, just read the info from their forum
I like the fact they 'accidental' left out the part about it costing £20 though!
Excuse the newb question...
If I get an HTC Desire locked to the 3 network, will rooting/new rom free me from the carrier's lock?
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Excuse the newb question...
If I get an HTC Desire locked to the 3 network, will rooting/new rom free me from the carrier's lock?
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No. You need a SIM code. Depending on laws in your country, you might get one free from that cell provider it's locked to. If not, they're always available for sale online, about $25 USD or so.
My 3 Desire wasn't locked. It was bought from a 3 Store.
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My 3 Desire wasn't locked. It was bought from a 3 Store.
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That's great news. Can anybody confirm that the 3/payg Desires are unlocked?
(TheOriginalKi, please forgive my asking this but I am having it sent abroad and need to be 200% certain before I fork out the cash - your logo here implies you are on the 3 network, so which other carrier did you try it on?)
My Desire from the merry Hill 3 store was also unlocked.
I went into Solihull originally and they told me that it might be locked or it might not be locked :S and there is no returns on the phone.
After phoning Merry Hill, where they had me an unlocked one reserved, I was told that they received a batch of unlocked ones and aren't sure if the next batch would be unlocked.
Not sure how much of that is true, but that's what I was told by the 3 staff. Mine works fine though , £350 too, great price.
can also confirm my desire from 3uk is unlocked
3 stated that becuase of high demand, they started shipping out unbranded and unlocked devices while they finished tweaking their custom, branded ROM. I've no idea if they've started shipping the ones with the 3 ROM yet.
WillyVWade said:
3 stated that becuase of high demand, they started shipping out unbranded and unlocked devices while they finished tweaking their custom, branded ROM. I've no idea if they've started shipping the ones with the 3 ROM yet.
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So I'm going to call the 3 shop ahead to make sure.
Is there a way for them to know the locked/unlocked status of a device without powering up (something on the packaging)? I can only assume the staff will be a bit clueless when i ask...
(Big thankyou to all who replied, btw)
Do they have a 3 logo on the back?
They might have 3 branded boxes, but I've never had a branded box with 3.
If they have them on display in store, it's a bad sign. IIRC, They were only sending out the generic devices over the phone and to web pre-orderers.
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Do they have a 3 logo on the back?
They might have 3 branded boxes, but I've never had a branded box with 3.
If they have them on display in store, it's a bad sign. IIRC, They were only sending out the generic devices over the phone and to web pre-orderers.
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They had a phone on display when I went in to the store and mine was a generic phone.
No idea if the 3 branded ones will have a 3 logo on the box, mine was a generic htc box though.
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They had a phone on display when I went in to the store and mine was a generic phone.
No idea if the 3 branded ones will have a 3 logo on the box, mine was a generic htc box though.
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I went in to my local 3 store and asked if I could use one, they told me they wouldn't have any generic stock or display models.
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That's great news. Can anybody confirm that the 3/payg Desires are unlocked?
(TheOriginalKi, please forgive my asking this but I am having it sent abroad and need to be 200% certain before I fork out the cash - your logo here implies you are on the 3 network, so which other carrier did you try it on?)
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They handed me a HTC Desire in a HTC Desire box, no 3 branding of any kind, then they handed me a PAYG sim card pack. I'm actually using my 3 contract sim in the phone, but just to check I popped in my brothers o2 Sim and it turned on and displayed the o2 carrier logo. Do not let them know you are not planning to use it on their network or they will refuse to sell it on PAYG. Another thing, they also made me buy a £10 top-voucher, which I was able to sell to a 3 PAYG user.
That's great news. Can anybody confirm that the 3/payg Desires are unlocked
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Definately not locked as brought one on Friday on payg on 3, no branding at all and works on o2 (which is what I wanted it for).
I can confirm that as well, Got mine in leeds although with a contract, but popped my t-mob PAYG in and it worked fine
Mine was unlocked aswell, got it from the retention team, box had 3 sticker but phone had none. Tested with other sim and worked fine. This all might change when they get more out, and have time to brand it. Usually they would have the 3 on the phone. good luck
Is there any advantage to getting a desire thats been nowhere near o2/Voda/3/Orange/T-Mobile ?
The proper sim free Desire will not have any network branding or apps installed and it will be first in line for any updates released by HTC. Plus, you won't have to run the risk of debranding the phone and losing its warranty
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YES!
Orange have mutilated the Desire, ****ed around with the apps, broken the browser, and muddled up the voicemail - it's a car crash.
T-Mo have been kinder, but they decided to volume limit the damned thing, which is hugely annoying when your favourite tune come on.
I don't know what Voda, O2 or 3 have done to theirs.
However, you can always debrand a carrier-subsidised phone by flashing the ROM, it's an easy procedure (search - there are loads of guides) but it might void your warranty. If the operator's ROM is available in the wild then you might be able to reflash it before sending it off for repair, but you cannot flash an older bootloader over a newer one which might put you in a pickle in 18 months time if your debranded phone's been updated a few times OTA and only old operator ROMs are available.
Therefore, your best bet is to get it unbranded, you could eithe pay £380 full whack for it or get it from Carphone Warehouse or online and get the benefit of the subsidy as well.
It's an amazing phone, man, AMAZING!
£380
where ??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just whack "htc desire" into Google shopping. Saw it on Amazon for £390 or so earlier today.
I think play.com are doing it for 389 now.
me thinks cpw will be 399.99 richer tomorrow
and I will be 130 poorer (sold my iphone 3gs for 270 today)
are the cpw ones proper sim free's?
cirian75 said:
me thinks cpw will be 399.99 richer tomorrow
and I will be 130 poorer (sold my iphone 3gs for 270 today)
are the cpw ones proper sim free's?
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Mine was, best phone I've ever owned...
And to mirror what others are saying - ALWAYS get SIM-free phones if you can
me thinks it's a plan
Nexus Ones a silly money sim free.
cirian75 said:
me thinks it's a plan
Nexus Ones a silly money sim free.
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It'd be first to get 'proper' FroYo but I don't like the trackball - one more thing to possibly break and if anything like my missus BlackBerry it'll stop working within a couple of months!
EddyOS, your local to me lol
also, I had a blackberry 8800
went through 5 trackballs in a year, but £10 for a bag 5, meh, wasn't fussed
Then they integrated in on the 1st Bold
I just hope the desire gets ginger bread.
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where ??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
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!£350 at 3 unlocked unbranded
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Generic HTC Desire on Vodafone in the uk
I cant see any way my desire is locked, or modified by Vodafone - i used to avoid them in the past as Id seen the mess they made of some handsets, but to the best of my knowledge the one I got from them 6 weeks ago is completely standard.
I know it's not locked to any networks, already tried a few different sims in and it works fine, and nothing in the Software Info suggests locking or customisation.
If you need a contract of some sorts it seems a good plan, its a free phone and my contract works out at about £400 over the 18 months anyway, not to mention all the data text and calls i get in the deal
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!£350 at 3 unlocked unbranded
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yeah 3 has it for that price but not many will offer it as they get less commission if they sell on payg but who knows you might get lucky.. oh apparently they need you to buy a £10 top up now so total is £360
steveapp said:
I cant see any way my desire is locked, or modified by Vodafone - i used to avoid them in the past as Id seen the mess they made of some handsets, but to the best of my knowledge the one I got from them 6 weeks ago is completely standard.
I know it's not locked to any networks, already tried a few different sims in and it works fine, and nothing in the Software Info suggests locking or customisation.
If you need a contract of some sorts it seems a good plan, its a free phone and my contract works out at about £400 over the 18 months anyway, not to mention all the data text and calls i get in the deal
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Check your FW version in Settings>About phone>Software version
if you've got x.xx.161.x then it's a Vodafone branded handset, if it's x.xx.405.x then it's a SIM-free handset
just rang 3 "3" stores
nope on the sim free version
£389.99 on Play.com
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...?_$ja=tsid:11518|cc:|prd:13665745|cat:Mobile+
Guess I was lucky with my Three handset.
I took one out on a contract and got a totally unlocked and unbranded handset.
Apparantly it was because they were having problems getting three branded handsets so all the shops were send unlocked/unbranded ones to help with the demand!
Cool eh!
Phil
I have it right now in my hand
£399.95 sim free from CPW
setting it up.
EddyOS said:
Check your FW version in Settings>About phone>Software version
if you've got x.xx.161.x then it's a Vodafone branded handset, if it's x.xx.405.x then it's a SIM-free handset
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It is interesting that Vodafone (UK) are not branding the Desire - their unlocked policy is well known.
When I compare a Vodafone handset to my unbranded (bought that way) Desire, the Vodafone handset has even less 'bloat-ware'!!!
As commented elsewhere, I will get any Firmware upgrades first - but I don't understand Vodafone's logic: -
No branding.
Unlocked.
So why not just hand out default unbranded HTC phones, if you're not going to control the experience...??
MMB.
Hi,
I am just about to get a DHD but I have 2 Options of the Network either on 3 or Orange Uk, However I am on Tmobile UK but I ll be unlocking/debranding the phone for my own use.
I have come across a fried who got his from 3 UK and it came unlocked, so I am not sure if anyone else Knows if it comes unlock/unbranded etc..
Just need to know before deciding which one to go for.
Thanks in advance.
I am leaving orange to go to 3uk i have found the signel better than orange so far and lots cheaper, As for unlocked mine had no branding on it at all, after about a hour it was s-off ,sim unlocked etc.. with no problems at all.
I was with orange for over 10 years but what with there expansive talk plans , small internet useage etc.. i switched , But know i having problems get my number off them..
A work colleague got a DHD from 3 and it was branded, at least until I got him on the latest AR HD ROM and debranded it for him.
From stock you'll get branded splashscreen, bootanim and some 3 apps. The handset itself has no branding on it though. Dunno if it came locked as he got it on 3 to use it on 3 so I had no need to test.
Someone else at work had one on Orange and that has their logo on the rear casing. I'm not sure about software branding but I think it's safe to say it will knowing what Orange are like.
Thanks for the reply guys..
I have a HD on Orange and 2 of my friends.
There is no branding on the phone anywhere.
There is no branding on the ROM either.
It's about time Orange stop messing with ROMS.
Sent from my Lee DrOid Loaded Desire HD
Mine's on 3uk and was locked but is easy to unlock on here.
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I have a HD on Orange and 2 of my friends.
There is no branding on the phone anywhere.
There is no branding on the ROM either.
It's about time Orange stop messing with ROMS.
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Were they from from a reseller or Orange direct?
The guy here at work with the Orange branded DHD got his from Orange direct.
If you get them from Phones4U, Car Phone Ware House etc then most of the time it will be unlocked & unbranded as they just get one off the shelf and then give you a SIM card to suit the network you just signed up for.
Same with T-Mobile. I did my upgrade with them on the phone but they had no stock left so they said I could pick one up from a local CPW store, which I did. No branding for me
Wow!!
Think i got lucky with my DHD.
I got mine from a "three" store, It had the stock rom installed no "3" branding anywhere!
(was sim free too) ^_^
i got my dhd with orange online, the only branding on the device whas the orange boot animation, it also came with older software so it was easly rooted. another good thing about orange is the "your orange" app on the market, letting you view your current spendings, how many mins and data you have left and your current bill
I've been on Orange for years. The only problem I have is when I'm in a 2G area and a data connection is active - any incoming voicecalls go straight to voicemail. This is because Orange prioritize data over voice, and 2G can't handle both simultaneously. No problem on 3G. Vodaphone prioritize voice in these circumstances.
Anyway, at the end of my contract I said I want to go monthly SIM-only (having bought my dhd off contract and sold my Touch HD) . Orange offered me 300 any network minutes, unlimited landline, 1Gb data, 15 picture messages, and a Desire for £13 per month. I promptly bit their hand off. Now selling the Desire....
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Thought I would start this as it is important to a lot of people so here goes
Anyone with a one x from t mobile uk or from them via chitter chatter
Is the outside of the t mobile branded?
Is the software T-Mobile branded boot screen or apps?
Everyone feel free to add requests for other countries, network operators,suppliers
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3 uk - branded
Bought from t-mobile store in bath
Software branded -
Hardware - untouched
Branding consists of boot and shutdown screen -
tmobile have seemingly replaced the stock web browser icon and the notification/ringtones are set to a tmobile sound
No bloat apps as far as i can remember (lazy to look back and see if i disabled them)
I received my UK T-Mobile HTC One X today and there's no physical branding but there is a splash screen, the default theme is called T-Mobile (but I don't know what the difference in widgets or anything is, I didn't check) and also the default browser's icon has a "w'n'w" tag on it.
Upgraded with Orange through Phones4 U, nothing is branded can't comment on whether going through Orange direct is any different
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Got mine today as an upgrade from tmobile but they had no white ones so got chitter chatter to send me one,no t mobile branding anywhwere box,phone or.software so although I haven't checked I'm hoping its unlocked as well .really pleased as I hate branding of any kind
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Also on Three, Day 1 purchase, No hardware changes, that doesn't happen in UK any more, comes with crapware which can be disabled and boot-screen image, but i don't mind it looks nice.
Orange UK has Orange startup + shutdown animations, an Orange theme which actually looks okay to me and it comes with the Your Account app preinstalled. It doesn't appear to have anything else that I can see. The physical phone has nothing that identifies it as being Orange.
T-Mobile for me too. No hardware branding on phone or box and nothing in the software I've found so far. I ordered mine online through Buymobilephones.net and assume that's why there's no branding.
O2-UK
Hardware: untouched
Software: Very laggy o2 splash on/off animation, couple of unistallable o2 apps. Nothing major, but still annoying.
I requested unlock, they do it for free fortunately, 28 days tops.
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O2-UK
Hardware: untouched
Software: Very laggy o2 splash on/off animation, couple of unistallable o2 apps. Nothing major, but still annoying.
I requested unlock, they do it for free fortunately, 28 days tops.
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You can disable apps tho
Got mine from Phones4u on Orange on Wednesday, got no branding at all, no orange apps, or boot animations. Only thing i do have is an orange services thing in app list which seems to have just been imported from SIM but thats it
Pre-ordered from phones4u
o2-uk
no branding hardware or software
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Got mine from Phones4u on Orange on Wednesday, got no branding at all, no orange apps, or boot animations. Only thing i do have is an orange services thing in app list which seems to have just been imported from SIM but thats it
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Yeah. That is just the generic SIM toolkit app. It is completely useless IMO at least with Orange. All it does it give you a few numbers which you'll never call except 150. SIMs from other providers will do something else and some of them enable/disable features via SIM toolkit.
Vodafone via Dialaphone, no branding, boot or shutdown screens or lock whatsoever, Voda toolkit app which is from sim.
T-Mobile UK and basically what everyone else has said who has one from them.
RicarduZonta said:
O2-UK
Hardware: untouched
Software: Very laggy o2 splash on/off animation, couple of unistallable o2 apps. Nothing major, but still annoying.
I requested unlock, they do it for free fortunately, 28 days tops.
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Same Here.
T-Mobile - the same as everyone else (splash/skin/W&W branding)
My heart sunk when the I switched it on for the 1st time and saw the splash screen.
To me the whole thing seems laggy. Switching between homescreens, live wallpapers which ran flawless on my DHD are now very poor on this device.
Currently investigating how and whether to flash to a stock HTC Rom
3 Denmark - not branded at all.
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Got mine thru Orange direct contract renewal.
hardware no branding
boot screen branded
Default browser icon changed
No Orange specific crappy apps,except Orange account which is useful..
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