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Will tough case from case mate make reception worse?

Technically does putting any case on work against reception? Reason I ask is because I am with a new company here in Canada called Wind mobil and they are still putting towers up so signal strength isint that great to begin with I just dont want to make it worse.

ludeboye said:
Technically does putting any case on work against reception? Reason I ask is because I am with a new company here in Canada called Wind mobil and they are still putting towers up so signal strength isint that great to begin with I just dont want to make it worse.
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i have it on mine and seen no problem's .so you should be good to go !

lucky 69 said:
i have it on mine and seen no problem's .so you should be good to go !
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how much bulk does it add? just enough?
and is it a very nice fit?

adds 1.5x the thickness, just bulky enough so it doesnt slip out of my hand
my only complain is the power button is bit hard to locate with the case; but overall im pretty happy with it

I know aluminum cases can affect signal strength but rubber and plastic, I dont think so. I have the tough case and I found that the vibrant gets really warm inside of the case. My phone was randomly resetting itself and the touch screen was not resonding to my touches. So i took the case off the phone and Voila, the phone acts normal again. So to all the tough case owners out there, if your phone is acting up, try taking the case off and see if it returns to normal. And just for clarification, I work in a 70 degree enviornment so it has not spent any time anywhere where there is excessive heat. My assumption based on this whole episode is that the vibrant, which is a very warm phone to begin with doesnt have any way to dissipate heat inside of the tough case.

dee32181 said:
I know aluminum cases can affect signal strength but rubber and plastic, I dont think so. I have the tough case and I found that the vibrant gets really warm inside of the case. My phone was randomly resetting itself and the touch screen was not resonding to my touches. So i took the case off the phone and Voila, the phone acts normal again. So to all the tough case owners out there, if your phone is acting up, try taking the case off and see if it returns to normal. And just for clarification, I work in a 70 degree enviornment so it has not spent any time anywhere where there is excessive heat. My assumption based on this whole episode is that the vibrant, which is a very warm phone to begin with doesnt have any way to dissipate heat inside of the tough case.
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hmm... not my case... although the phone does get quite hot from extensive game playing from time to time while in the case (i blame the rubber thing in the tough case), but never experience random reset or screen not responding

Wykedx said:
how much bulk does it add? just enough?
and is it a very nice fit?
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ya it don't add much bulkyness at all !the case look's thicker in the picture's than it is! i was surprised my self !yes it is just enough phone feel's better to me with the case.i did like how thin the phone is but this case help's me have a better hold of it .as for the fit .you can't go wrong very well made and fit is perfect .i was a little hasty when i seen the price but know it is well worth the cash for it !well hope this helps ya

I live in Florida an have left my phone on my dash on very hot days with the tough case. SetCPU has shown over 135° temps and my phone hasnt rebooted one time.
dee32181 said:
I know aluminum cases can affect signal strength but rubber and plastic, I dont think so. I have the tough case and I found that the vibrant gets really warm inside of the case. My phone was randomly resetting itself and the touch screen was not resonding to my touches. So i took the case off the phone and Voila, the phone acts normal again. So to all the tough case owners out there, if your phone is acting up, try taking the case off and see if it returns to normal. And just for clarification, I work in a 70 degree enviornment so it has not spent any time anywhere where there is excessive heat. My assumption based on this whole episode is that the vibrant, which is a very warm phone to begin with doesnt have any way to dissipate heat inside of the tough case.
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Sent from my vibrant using tapatalk.

Well the point of my post is only for people who are experiencing the same problems that i had (which hasnt happened again). If your phone isnt experiencing these sort of problems then this post wasnt for you. So for people to comment on the fact that their phones work perfectly are missing the point of the post. That is unless they just like hearing themselves speak lol.

Does putting a case on make the phone work harder to get reception on a technical level that is? Like I said my carrier is new to the country and has some dead spots and is working to put more towers in (windmobile) thats why my major concern is reception (battery drain).

The point of the post that has no relevance to the op? The case mate cases have their own thread going in this same section.
By the way, my signal is no different than before I put the case on.
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ludeboye said:
Does putting a case on make the phone work harder to get reception on a technical level that is? Like I said my carrier is new to the country and has some dead spots and is working to put more towers in (windmobile) thats why my major concern is reception (battery drain).
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imo no,it won't make the phone work harder at all.your battery life will not change at all just by putting this case on or any case on it .your phone will get the same reception as it does now .so go get it you won't be sorry. if you get lost reception it will be from the your service provider not the phone/case. well let us know if ya get one .

Thanks I ordered one

Samsung Captivate Extended Battery

I work directly with China's largest manufacturer of Extended batteries. They finished the AT&T Samsung Vibrant for T-Mobile and I've sold a bunch already with 100% feedback on Ebay. Userid is kevinjmoore. Unfortunately, they don't want to make a mold for the Captivate because they don't think there is enough demand in the USA to warrant it. To prove them wrong, I am trying to generate interest so that I can pay for the door mold charge and have them produce a bunch. The battery is the same as the Vibrant so that part is done. It is a 2800maH, which is nearly double the capacity and does last more than twice as long as stock--I know, I have the phone. Please email me at kevinjmoore at gmail dot com to get more details and help us get this rolling. I've reviewed all the forums out there and battery life is definitely one of the top issues. The rubberized door feel is awesome and it doesn't add a bunch of thickness to the phone like you think it might. Total production time is 20-25 days. My price will be at most $40 incl shipping. I may bring it down if demand is high enough. I will need a minimum of 50% fully refundable deposit. If I don't get enough demand in 30 days, I'll refund completely (less $0.30 Paypal fee). Please forward this, tweet this, facebook this and let's get this thing done My communication and customer service is second to none. We are building a US based website that will be up in 2 weeks detailing the over 35 other phones/extended batteries and hundreds of accessories (including IPAD and IPHONE) that we carry.

I found this pic on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Samsung-Vibrant...448289815?pt=US_Batteries&hash=item1e5f52f017
There is no way I would do that to my captivate. Just make a battery that fits in the factory space that has a 25% more power and i would be happy.

alphadog00 said:
I found this pic on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Samsung-Vibrant...448289815?pt=US_Batteries&hash=item1e5f52f017
There is no way I would do that to my captivate. Just make a battery that fits in the factory space that has a 25% more power and i would be happy.
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I would do it in a second for double the life are you kidding me! As long as the back cover had some sort of style to it.
unfortunately I'm gonna wait for the seidio 3000mah extended battery.
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Ewwwww...
That looks fugly as hell... I would get 2 extra OEMs w/ desktop charger instead...

Doesn't look horrid for the Vibrant. But the Captivate? Yea.. look like a damn camel hump or a hemorrhoid on the back of my phone. No thanks.

I had one on my Dream and other than being somewhat a nuisance for carrying cases/belt clips it was well worth it. In fact it worked so well I sold it to my buddy who had a dream when I switched to the captivate. He loves the damn thing cause he can use his phone all day long now without having to charge it.
I am a someone who prefers function over cosmetics. If it works better but is uglier wtf cares? When was the last time you looked at the back of your phone and was like wow- that sure is purdy You don't interact with the back of your phone. Also with the back being rubberized I would find it easier to rest on my shoulder during long tech calls with clients as I dont use bluetooth headsets. Just this morning I almost dropped my cap as it slipped from my hand getting out of the car- luckily I caught it, but still with the rubber this is less likely to happen. Again.. function over form all day all long.

I carry mine in my pocket. I like the captivate because it's thin. If I need to I'll carry spare battery before I double the thickness of the phone...I'm just sayin'
Mike

if i had the battery i could make the dies. are you looking to make a plastic cover or stamp an aluminum one?
anyway it would be nice to have on hand for trips or events where i dont know how long i will go without a charger. i dont think i would walk around with that in my pocket but it would be nice to have one available for occasional use and there are plenty of people that have come around here complaining about horrid battery life. i find the battery life quite good and in an every day environment you can always plan around it but obviously some people want more or just like to complain.

If I traveled, I would be all over this. Unfortunately, the $9 2-pack of batteries with wall charger on eBay just doesn't makes this as economical when I can just reach over and pop in a fresh battery and have the old one start charging.

It adds a "WHOPPING" 6 mm to the phone (not even 1/4"). I gave it to my friend to hold and he said he actually liked the feel better with the door that way. It felt more stable and fit perfectly to how you cradle your phone. The door is better than stock and fits easily in your pocket. It is NOT bulky at all. To not have to charge your phone every 7 or 8 hours if you are a moderate to heavy user is so worth it. I can't imagine not having it or carrying around 2 or 3 batteries all the time.

It is 6mm extra on an 11 mm phone (about 50% thicker for double capacity). It's a no-brainer.

i think you'd sell them but i think this might not be the right forum for it, the less than enthused response doesn't mean that people who travel aren't looking for something like this, it just means that we dont have that many people on the forum looking for this. are you getting feedback on your ebay store asking for it?

Email me at kevinjmoore at gmail to discuss.

Correct me if I am wrong but...
Isn't our metal back plate aid in reception? I thought the antenna was in direct contact with the back plate. Seems to me that a big piece of plastic holding in a big battery would give us signal loss...

Shovelhead84 said:
Correct me if I am wrong but...
Isn't our metal back plate aid in reception? I thought the antenna was in direct contact with the back plate. Seems to me that a big piece of plastic holding in a big battery would give us signal loss...
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no it appears to be grounded not an antenna but i could be wrong i dont know much about cell antenna design. there are two contacts and one goes to the metal chassis indirectly through a shiny plating on the back of the plastic housing. the other goes to the board but i didn't trace it to tell if it went to the points that contact the chassis and plastic cover, electronics today can be difficult trace.
i know some antennas form a loop and it can very well be an antenna but i find that my phone works fin with the battery door removed. also there is no reason a new batery door cant be stamped from aluminum. or lined with aluminum tape.

I assume that you can't have a battery like this and use a case like the Body Glove Mirage? Are there alternative cases that will work with a battery like this?

A better solution would be a silicone case with a pocket for a spare battery. Carry it when you need to and switch when you need to.

a picture (if you have a functional unit) would be a lot helpful...

waghoba said:
a picture (if you have a functional unit) would be a lot helpful...
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I agree. Any/ all pictures of all angles would be highly appreciated. Only then can i make my decision. I too am interested in this.
alphadog00 said:
A better solution would be a silicone case with a pocket for a spare battery. Carry it when you need to and switch when you need to.
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Now this wouldn't be a bad idea either....
Espaa Valorum said:
I assume that you can't have a battery like this and use a case like the Body Glove Mirage? Are there alternative cases that will work with a battery like this?
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From my experience with the BG Mirage + the specs provided by the OP, its a definite No. Not with 6mm (50% thicker) but i would applaud anyone who would try it. Who knows, it might actually work out. Now if only Otterbox cases work with ANY extended batteries..........then I am ALL OVER IT.

[Q] metal evo case

http://www.boxwave.com/products/armorcase/armor-case-htc-evo-4g_3934.htm
anyone tried this case? theres at least one other thats similar (looks exactly the same http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000989&products_id=30835). looked up some videos on youtube and looks like its fitting kinda loose, like theres a gap between top of case and phone.

Weak signal
I had one on a htc ppc a long time ago and the metal case kind of made my signal weak, but definetly a stong case.

I have one and it works great. The gap between the case and the phone is actually the padding that acts as a shock absorber. I would recommended a Monaco case eBay, it's the same thing check it out.

Thanks for the info people.
Another question, I keep my phone in my pocket all the time. Does the latch or hinges ever get colaught on anything? Looks like it could. That would definitely be a downer.
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rudyrude432 said:
The gap between the case and the phone is actually the padding that acts as a shock absorber.
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Makes sense. I was about to say putting metal around your phone would probably make it damage more easily...

The latch doesn't get caught on clothing. Not unless your wearing one of those christmas sweaters with the big knit lol.

rudyrude432 said:
The latch doesn't get caught on clothing. Not unless your wearing one of those christmas sweaters with the big knit lol.
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Hahaha haven't had one of those since I was 6 (ninja turtles FTW!). Sweetness, looks like I found my next case then.
Thanks for all the help! XD
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GoodandEVO.net did a review on that case a while ago, it was not a positive one.

Not a problem my friend.

Link to GoodandEVO.net review
http://www.goodandevo.net/2010/08/review-pdair-aluminum-case-for-htc-evo-4g.html
To sum it up they didn't like how it looked so it got a bad review. Also they expected super thin mental to not bend. Can anybody confirm lower signal quality?

Drewmungus said:
Link to GoodandEVO.net review
http://www.goodandevo.net/2010/08/review-pdair-aluminum-case-for-htc-evo-4g.html
To sum it up they didn't like how it looked so it got a bad review. Also they expected super thin mental to not bend. Can anybody confirm lower signal quality?
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got the case yesterday (monaco, black). i haven't noticed any signal loss at all. phone heats up a little faster but i was kinda expecting it.
overall i really love this case. it does add some bulk to the phone but i don't mind at all. kinda feels like it beefs it up some.

Glad you decided to pull the trigger on the case. It's not as bad as these guys make it out to be, is it? Enjoy!

I pulled the trigger one of these when I saw this thread. I like the look and feel of it, but it does have some problems. The main problem I have with it is that it somehow interferes with the antennas in the phone and it absolutely kills me reception/signal strength. I don't have good reception in the building I work in......2 bars is the standard. If I leave my phone inside this case, it drops to 0-1 bars. Within a second of removing it from the case, it goes back up to 2 bars. It doesn't seem to interfere with a WiFi signal, though.
The other thing I don't like is that the latch is fairly easy to open.
With that said, the same day I got it my 2 y/o was playing one of her games the phone and she dropped it onto the concrete The case did its job. However, the impact did cause the door to swing open, but nothing happened to my phone.
I'm not sure if I want to keep it or not. With the slow data services I've been getting since the end of last year, I don't want anything that's going to slow down my phone even more.

Lol... Metal cases on cellphones... Might look cool but not the brightest idea ever, lol

Alcantara fit bag..... rubbish!

After paying £20 for this I was excited for it to arrive. I shouldn't have been. Positives are it fits well. That's about it. It is so awkward to get the phone in and out I actually don't think I will use it as I feel more likely to drop it now! Also, I expected it to keep the screen clean but it comes out still dirty and finger prints all over it still. I still have to clean the screen with the outside of the fit bag as the inside doesn't seem to clean the screen when pulled out. When I put my phone in top first I lost signal so have to put it in bottom first, I presume the antenna is at the top?
Very disappointed.
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Matcarroll said:
After paying £20 for this I was excited for it to arrive. I shouldn't have been. Positives are it fits well. That's about it. It is so awkward to get the phone in and out I actually don't think I will use it as I feel more likely to drop it now! Also, I expected it to keep the screen clean but it comes out still dirty and finger prints all over it still. I still have to clean the screen with the outside of the fit bag as the inside doesn't seem to clean the screen when pulled out. When I put my phone in top first I lost signal so have to put it in bottom first, I presume the antenna is at the top?
Very disappointed.
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damn that's a shame
And the antenna is at the bottom (3G/EDGE/WiFi). The GPS antenna is at the top.

Don't suppose you know where the wifi antenna is do you?
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Sorry, see what you said now. Strange that as if I put upside down in case I lose wifi and better signal to been top facing up! Would have thought it would have been the other way round if antenna is at the bottom.
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yea, I agree that's weird. Plus I don't see how alcantara can cause any kind of interference.
Curiously, how are you verifying this?
I should be getting mine by the end of the week (ordered last week), I'll let you know if mine suffers from the same issue

To be fair, its a very untechnical observation, just by my battery stats screen. Also, I always have a bad signal at work and was suffering with the volume bug and 2g/3g reception problem so it could also be something to do with this as I only got the update last night.
With reference to the fitbag I have found after half a days use, the phone goes in and out much easier when putting the top in first and leaving the fatter end facing out. The case has slackened off a little and is better now. It does clean the screen a little but doesn't clean finger prints.
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Whats the material itself like? Pics please! I'm still waiting for my suede one, bit worried now!

Matcarroll said:
the phone goes in and out much easier when putting the top in first and leaving the fatter end facing out.
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Since the "fat end" is the one that has the USB, headphone jack, antenna, and speakers, it wouldn't make sense to insert it any other way, really...
Anyway, I'm interested in getting this pouch as well, so please do let us know what you think after a few more days use

Here's some pics of my pure suede one. I'm liking it so far. Seems to have a fair amount of give to get it in and out, but is tight enough that it doesn't slide out by itself.
BTW pics taken with my Nexus, and the flash makes the white dust light up, a bit like a UV light does in a night club! Normally it looks black and you can't see all that dust.

really can't belive that some leather is the problem of your signal loss.
if the singnal is so poor that you loss it with a case, you can't complain the case for it.

kam187 said:
Here's some pics of my pure suede one. I'm liking it so far. Seems to have a fair amount of give to get it in and out, but is tight enough that it doesn't slide out by itself.
BTW pics taken with my Nexus, and the flash makes the white dust light up, a bit like a UV light does in a night club! Normally it looks black and you can't see all that dust.
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damn that looks nice.. maybe I should have gotten the suede one. Bah, well I'm still waiting on my alcantara one

kwazi said:
damn that looks nice.. maybe I should have gotten the suede one. Bah, well I'm still waiting on my alcantara one
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I bought the nappa one and it is really cool. Really well made and feels premium.

Does the top of the phone stick out for you all with this case? I just got my fitbag and the top of the phone sticks out...

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Does the top of the phone stick out for you all with this case? I just got my fitbag and the top of the phone sticks out...
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Anyone? Bump

Mine fits perfectly. The end of the phone ends just halfway into the lip right at the end of the case - the bit where the leather is folder over underneath and double thickness.
Maybe you were sent the wrong one? I'm sure if you email them they might just send you another one and let you keep that one.

aluminum & carbon fiber luxury case

Just stumbled upon this on ebay already ordered mine will upload pics as soon as i get it.
i got the black back and silver frame
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luxury-Alum...Cell_Phone_PDA_Cases&var=&hash=item3f2750f1db

Look nice. Waiting for your review.
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so i kept a lookout and found another one from the same company. really nice cases here
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luxury-Delu...Cell_Phone_PDA_Cases&var=&hash=item2ec94ad39a

johnnyboyya said:
Just stumbled upon this on ebay already ordered mine will upload pics as soon as i get it.
i got the black back and silver frame
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luxury-Alum...Cell_Phone_PDA_Cases&var=&hash=item3f2750f1db
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Got this case in all silver and all black. Both look very girly with the studs on the side. It's a nice case, but it was way too flashy.

deliciousj said:
Got this case in all silver and all black. Both look very girly with the studs on the side. It's a nice case, but it was way too flashy.
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Does it affects the phone signal ?

2 things:
1) Phone signal. Both CF and AL are NOT RF transparent.
2) IR blaster. It's covered.
That is all.

Dam, i thought it might but i really liked the look of it can u up a pic or 2?
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johnnyboyya said:
Dam, i thought it might but i really liked the look of it can u up a pic or 2?
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This in theory. I don't have the case. All I'm saying is, unless the people who designed this case are absolute genii, this case is either a) going to have signal issues or b) be made out of materials other than just CF and AL.

Just recieved mine today, the red with black back, im not keen as it makes the phone look quite big, reception wise i didnt keep it on long enough to fully tell, but it did knock a bar off my reception, also ir/power button is metal so ir blaster will not work with case on.
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jadaress1 said:
Just recieved mine today, the red with black back, im not keen as it makes the phone look quite big, reception wise i didnt keep it on long enough to fully tell, but it did knock a bar off my reception, also ir/power button is metal so ir blaster will not work with case on.
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Damn I was about to buy this case too, good thing I checked xda first =\

well reception sucks
HiddenSanctum said:
Damn I was about to buy this case too, good thing I checked xda first =\
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good thing you didn't buy it, it looks amazing the bad things are,
its incredibly bulky and very bad reception
i usually had 1-2 bars at home not good reception but something.
NOW i have completely no reception. I'm not using this case. it is completely horrible for me.
I even researched online where the antenna of the phone is and the whole back is an antenna, but because of the case all the antennas are touching each other.
Like this phone has the same issue as the iphone 4 (bad grip) signal issue. not complaining i love the phone more then any other phone out there. just with it had better reception or i had better reception at home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6cqP7rm58g

johnnyboyya said:
good thing you didn't buy it, it looks amazing the bad things are,
its incredibly bulky and very bad reception
i usually had 1-2 bars at home not good reception but something.
NOW i have completely no reception. I'm not using this case. it is completely horrible for me.
I even researched online where the antenna of the phone is and the whole back is an antenna, but because of the case all the antennas are touching each other.
Like this phone has the same issue as the iphone 4 (bad grip) signal issue. not complaining i love the phone more then any other phone out there. just with it had better reception or i had better reception at home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6cqP7rm58g
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Its all because of the metal body...sadly we can't defy Physics

Looks fancy! Wait for review too.
johnnyboyya said:
Just stumbled upon this on ebay already ordered mine will upload pics as soon as i get it.
i got the black back and silver frame
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luxury-Alum...Cell_Phone_PDA_Cases&var=&hash=item3f2750f1db
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The back cover look too shiny for me, but look forward to seeing your review on metal bumper.

I had some ebay bucks so I grabbed one I will post some pics when i get it and post a review.

DO NOT BUY THIS CASE! I just got mine and it just feels cheap, the "carbon fiber" backing is not good, but I would say the worst part is the chrome sides, if they just left it all one color and didn't have the "bling" studs on the case it would be much better. Also doesn't help as soon as I out it on just for kick my reception tanked. Stay far away, I'm glad I just spend some spare eBay bucks on it and not any money.

Thanks for that I was just about to buy one as well.

In addition to the signal issue and the IR blaster being covered, there may be a third problem -- the noise-cancellation microphone hole on the right upper corner of the back is covered by the case. This will very likely affect the clarity of voice, as the noise cancellation mechanism is impaired.