Overclock, it means to get about 806mhz, and successful overclock means to run the CPU smoothly and fast on 806mhz. Some roms support the overclock, some don't and other roms say they can not overclock with 806mhz but with 787mhz because of getting frezzed, rebooted and so on. But if you look clearer on the CPU and look at time in spare or with the app CPU spy you can easily see that the values 787 and 768 don't run a percent of the whole time. This means they even run with stock speed 600MHz. It even show you first that the CPU run so fast and bla bla.. If someone tell you to run the CPU not with 806mhz because of freezing, graphic glitches don't believe it, if you change it to 767 or something like that it will run with just 600MHz.
That's life dudes, so don't believe everything you see or hear and be carefully
Regards Matteo
Model: Wildfire S A510e
Recovery: unofficial CWM
Rom: JxMatteo_ROM_V1. 1 with Link2sd - OC - Rooted
i was told that overclocking could reduce the life of your wfs.
this is the reason why i dont overclock.
i did it once and 3d games started showing glitches.
i would recommend ppl to test and read first before setting it to 700-800mhz.
thats just my oppinion.
I know that all of the cdma oc kernels are absolutely stable at 806. I have indeed never heard of a properly flashed kernel freezing under oc in the wfs. (admittedly I don't read the gsm threads too much) And as to shortening the life if the phone, if you plan on keeping it for like 5 years then sure, it might. But your not going to. Your battery on the other hand...
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BigChillin said:
I know that all of the cdma oc kernels are absolutely stable at 806. I have indeed never heard of a properly flashed kernel freezing under oc in the wfs. (admittedly I don't read the gsm threads too much) And as to shortening the life if the phone, if you plan on keeping it for like 5 years then sure, it might. But your not going to. Your battery on the other hand...
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I agree.
The freezing I wouldn't put down to kernel's.
More likely to be the processor.
Same with desktop processors, you can't expect every one of them to perform the same.
Because one is a great overclocker it doesn't mean that they all will be.
just because they are the same processor, they came from a different yield which may have been better or worse.
By the way I've been running mine at 806 for over 3 months or more with no ill effects.
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don't believe everything you see or hear and be carefully
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Words to live by...
My phone starts glitching in 3d as soon as I clock my CPU higher then 600. Screen turns purple in benchmarks.. so no overclock for me.
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VitanyLTD said:
My phone starts glitching in 3d as soon as I clock my CPU higher then 600. Screen turns purple in benchmarks.. so no overclock for me.
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The reason ist often the wrong rom for overclock. I tried to overclock CM7 to but without look, now I did my own rom and here it goes antutu benchmark about 1700
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I run my wfs on 122/768MHz w/o any problems... On CM 7.2 ...
And its not going to shorten life of device for like idk how long... Phone uses 768 only sometimes, when needed and not all the time... So its not such a stress to a cpu.
But i saw one guy for example, complaining that his phone was hot when he turn off or something, and he did overclock to 768/806... so he is constantly running it over 600MHz... I just wan't to see what will happen in few months or...
I have overclocked my phone with m1ndh4x8r's rom.
It running at 245-806mhz with smartass2 governor.
It runs about 10 days now, with absolutely no problem or freezes.
And after of 3-4 hours of constantly use (browsing games), it just gets barely warmer.
That's my 5 cent
My phone currently run with 787/200 with SetCPU and several custom profiles: 320/120 screen off, 480/200 in call, temp>48,batt<15.
With 806 get some visual glitches, but on 787 it run more than 4 hours of stress test in SetCPU.
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My phone currently run with 787/200 with SetCPU and several custom profiles: 320/120 screen off, 480/200 in call, temp>48,batt<15.
With 806 get some visual glitches, but on 787 it run more than 4 hours of stress test in SetCPU.
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Did you read my post dude? I don't think so, if you take the values 787 it will run with just 600! First read the post than answer another thing is that 48°C were absolutely to hot! Overlocking should not be just like a game, it's a science.!
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LOL
Overclocked rom perform better than stock 600/400 even in phone shell itself, removing visual lags. Try and you will see it.
And there are still games..
With such reasons there are no need to buy new CPU for desktop because 99% of time it idling
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Overlocking should not be just like a game, it's a science.!
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Ofc, and you will need to interpret and understand results, just like "real" science
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Did you read my post dude? I don't think so, if you take the values 787 it will run with just 600! First read the post than answer another thing is that 48°C were absolutely to hot! Overlocking should not be just like a game, it's a science.!
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matt5eo, that info you posted isn't 100% accurate. Overclocking is in fact a science and if you rise the CPU speed, a benchmark should present better results. Right? So let's see some science applied.
I just did a simple test on m1ndh4x8r GB 2.3.5 ROM (updated kernel), with No Frills CPU Control and Quadrant Standard.
320/600, performance, sio score: 762
320/768, performance, sio score: 879
320/787, performance, sio score: 890
320/806, performance, sio score: 925
320/600, performance, noop score: 769
320/768, performance, noop score: 851
320/787, performance, noop score: 889
320/806, performance, noop score: 929
320/600, interactive, noop score: 742
320/768, interactive, noop score: 871
320/787, interactive, noop score: 885
320/806, interactive, noop score: 908
320/600, smartass2, noop score: 712
320/768, smartass2, noop score: 860
320/787, smartass2, noop score: 872
320/806, smartass2, noop score: 898
I couldn't test the other governors now because I ran out of battery...
Anyway it's a waste of time because as we can see the score rises consistently with the selected CPU speed.
The CPU speed used at a given time depends a lot on the governor and on the I/O scheduler you choose.
From what I saw the governor can make the huge difference between the CPU speed increases and decreases. With the performance and interactive governors Quadrant showed the real clock at which the CPU was running (on System Information) and it was consistent with the maximum clock I selected on No Frills CPU Control.
When I selected 787MHz, the actual speed was in fact 787MHz and not 600MHz like you say. The same happened with the other clocks (600, 768, 806).
So what you write might apply to some kernels but definitely not to all.
I don't have the time to put nice screen captures here but I certainly have no interest in inventing scores and contradicting someone just for fun.
Just wanted to let you know my results.
This is off topic but i'll write it here anyway.
I don't have enough posts to post on your thread on JxMatteo_ROM_V1.1.
Thank you for the rom, it's very good.
I was about to get rid of this phone and buy another until HTC unlocked bootloader, your rom made my phone perfect.
Like the font also. Is there some way to change font to something else?
Been wanting to try the Airwolf font, might be cool...
Tested it on my WFS, it was useless!
Lykkis said:
This is off topic but i'll write it here anyway.
I don't have enough posts to post on your thread on JxMatteo_ROM_V1.1.
Thank you for the rom, it's very good.
I was about to get rid of this phone and buy another until HTC unlocked bootloader, your rom made my phone perfect.
Like the font also. Is there some way to change font to something else?
Been wanting to try the Airwolf font, might be cool...
Tested it on my WFS, it was useless!
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Hello dear Lykkis
I see that you like it very much, It makes me happy to read lines like this anyway thanks for the feedback
In my next update you will be able to choose every font you want, and also every themes you want on your JxMatteo ROM!
PS. JxMatteo V1.2 will make your phone more than perfect
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Have a quick go at this people - run an oc kernal such as CM7 or something and overclock to 806mhz. For a few hours, do it.
Then switch off your phone. Remove the battery and SMELL IT. SMELL it like you mean it. I'm telling you SMELL it, FEEL it. It smells like one of those electric car toys and it feels relatively hot. I can smell it immediately, I don't even have to go close to the phone. a little scary tbh. however, my phone has had no problems at all, God forbid on 806mhz, so I leave it at that.
I don't think it's that bad for your phone's lifetime, as most of us will not own this for more than two or three years, I'm sure. It might even be healther at times to underclock the CPU most of the time when not using it. This must balance out the effects, right?
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Have a quick go at this people - run an oc kernal such as CM7 or something and overclock to 806mhz. For a few hours, do it.
Then switch off your phone. Remove the battery and SMELL IT. SMELL it like you mean it. I'm telling you SMELL it, FEEL it. It smells like one of those electric car toys and it feels relatively hot. I can smell it immediately, I don't even have to go close to the phone. a little scary tbh. however, my phone has had no problems at all, God forbid on 806mhz, so I leave it at that.
I don't think it's that bad for your phone's lifetime, as most of us will not own this for more than two or three years, I'm sure. It might even be healther at times to underclock the CPU most of the time when not using it. This must balance out the effects, right?
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I know what you are talking about, I also run my JxM ROM with 806mhz and I have to say that everything works fine, without smelling like sh**
I like developing, and I also like overclock kernels, but with the wrong ussage you won't see what we see, we see a great project in it and also a chance to speed up our devices
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Lykkis said:
This is off topic but i'll write it here anyway.
I don't have enough posts to post on your thread on JxMatteo_ROM_V1.1.
Thank you for the rom, it's very good.
I was about to get rid of this phone and buy another until HTC unlocked bootloader, your rom made my phone perfect.
Like the font also. Is there some way to change font to something else?
Been wanting to try the Airwolf font, might be cool...
Tested it on my WFS, it was useless!
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you can change font by making you own theme, with UOT KITCHEN.
if you lest say want just to change font, just choose font change, no need for anything else, and it will update theme with only font ... you have it all in how to ... good luck.
miguelca said:
matt5eo, that info you posted isn't 100% accurate. Overclocking is in fact a science and if you rise the CPU speed, a benchmark should present better results. Right? So let's see some science applied.
I just did a simple test on m1ndh4x8r GB 2.3.5 ROM (updated kernel), with No Frills CPU Control and Quadrant Standard.
320/600, performance, sio score: 762
320/768, performance, sio score: 879
320/787, performance, sio score: 890
320/806, performance, sio score: 925
320/600, performance, noop score: 769
320/768, performance, noop score: 851
320/787, performance, noop score: 889
320/806, performance, noop score: 929
320/600, interactive, noop score: 742
320/768, interactive, noop score: 871
320/787, interactive, noop score: 885
320/806, interactive, noop score: 908
320/600, smartass2, noop score: 712
320/768, smartass2, noop score: 860
320/787, smartass2, noop score: 872
320/806, smartass2, noop score: 898
I couldn't test the other governors now because I ran out of battery...
Anyway it's a waste of time because as we can see the score rises consistently with the selected CPU speed.
The CPU speed used at a given time depends a lot on the governor and on the I/O scheduler you choose.
From what I saw the governor can make the huge difference between the CPU speed increases and decreases. With the performance and interactive governors Quadrant showed the real clock at which the CPU was running (on System Information) and it was consistent with the maximum clock I selected on No Frills CPU Control.
When I selected 787MHz, the actual speed was in fact 787MHz and not 600MHz like you say. The same happened with the other clocks (600, 768, 806).
So what you write might apply to some kernels but definitely not to all.
I don't have the time to put nice screen captures here but I certainly have no interest in inventing scores and contradicting someone just for fun.
Just wanted to let you know my results.
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Any response for this? Waiting for the final conclusion on it.
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Any response for this? Waiting for the final conclusion on it.
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lol, d33ps1x, may i remember you that matt3o is the one of the fake s-off method? he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about.
What is the max overclock in this phone?? tnx!
Differs on every phone, most go to 940 or 902 stable, if you go higher you will get crash and reboots, but it is possible your gio is not stable above 883 , just try it out, it wont get it bricked
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844
844 is the highest stable you can get, but you can go up to 921 mhz but you can get screen freeze and you will have to remove your battery and restart.
I've had problems with over 806, but recently I put it up to 825 and it's stable so far. I really don't understand how some can go over 900, the phone will become unusable. It also seems to be more stable with minimum freq being set to 122 not 245. Currently I have 122-825 with smartassv2 scaling and it's working fine.
One more thing. I have more luck oc'ing with cyanogenmod built-in CPU governor, setCPU with different profiles seemed to crash my call answering dialog too easily. So if you use smartassv2, there isn't much point to use setcpu for screen-off profile.
overclock
in my opinion best clock for daily usage is 806MHz
voetbalremco said:
Differs on every phone, most go to 940 or 902 stable, if you go higher you will get crash and reboots, but it is possible your gio is not stable above 883 , just try it out, it wont get it bricked
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This.
Others are just stating their own experience.
True, everyone has other mhz that is stable, you just need a bit luck
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Just a quick question:
I know how to adjust my Min and Max frequency, but which governor should I use?
My ROM is GalaxyICS-KANG-beta3, and the default governor is ONDEMAND. Max CPU frequency is set to 902 MHz and Min is 122 MHz, the default.
Which of these settings, if any, would you recommend I change? I'm a little intimidated by the sheer amount of governors available to me...
Alucai Vivorvel said:
Just a quick question:
I know how to adjust my Min and Max frequency, but which governor should I use?
My ROM is GalaxyICS-KANG-beta3, and the default governor is ONDEMAND. Max CPU frequency is set to 902 MHz and Min is 122 MHz, the default.
Which of these settings, if any, would you recommend I change? I'm a little intimidated by the sheer amount of governors available to me...
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I'm not entirely sure how all of them work, but ondemand is the most neutral choice, that's why it is the default governor on most roms.. it chooses CPU workload according to need (on demand).
Smartass is similar, except it keeps CPU usage to minimum when screen is off (it has a built in screen-off profile). SmartassV2 is an upgraded version of smartass. It's based on Interactive governor, but there are differences on how cpu usage scales up and down.
Minmax uses only minimum and maximum values. When your phone is idle, it uses minimum.. when it's not idle, it's always at max value.
Performance keeps CPU at max all the time. Powersave does the opposite - keeps at minimum. Conservative avoids using high values when possible.
So if you don't need anything special, then ondemand or smartassv2 are the best choices with compromise between performance and battery life imo.
my gio is 940MHz
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it seems that my gio is stable at 940Mhz, it got one day 1Ghz but over a day he crashd and i could not set it back to ghz... xD
I score 3028 after benchmarking with Quadrant after these small changes in CPU stuff and i thought i wanna share it ...
I tried all kinds of things to make gaming faster and after experimenting... I got 1950+ score for 3D perfomance and these are the overall results after changing the governor and I/O:
1st try: 3128 :laugh:
2nd try: 3209 :victory:
3rd try: 2977
4th try: 3028 :laugh:
Heres how...
You only need No-CPU frlls or CPU Master or any other APP capable of changing clock speeds eg. SetCpu... :good:
Set your devices Governor to smartassV2 and i/o scheduler to vr... Clock your CPU speed to the max frequency that is stable... Mine is 1.8GHz, but can OC to 2Ghz which can make my device boiling hot.... Minimum frequency you wanna set is 600 mhz and below... And thats about it...
DO NOTE! Only some kernels can use the SmartAssV2 Governor and vr I/O scheduler... if none of them is there, I recommend you use Ondemand Govern' and Noop I/O...
Again, not all kernels are gonna have that score..
If i made a great mistake, don't be afraid to correct me especially Pepoluan ...
BTW i'm using REMICS v1.7 by sparta20 and Forvivos kernel...
TiTAN-O-One said:
I score 3028 after benchmarking with Quadrant after these small changes in CPU stuff and i thought i wanna share it ...
I tried all kinds of things to make gaming faster and after experimenting... I got 1950+ score for 3D perfomance and these are the overall results after changing the governor and I/O:
1st try: 3128 :laugh:
2nd try: 3209 :victory:
3rd try: 2977
4th try: 3028 :laugh:
Heres how...
You only need No-CPU frlls or CPU Master or any other APP capable of changing clock speeds eg. SetCpu... :good:
Set your devices Governor to smartassV2 and i/o scheduler to vr... Clock your CPU speed to the max frequency that is stable... Mine is 1.8GHz, but can OC to 2Ghz which can make my device boiling hot.... Minimum frequency you wanna set is 600 mhz and below... And thats about it...
DO NOTE! Only some kernels can use the SmartAssV2 Governor and vr I/O scheduler... if none of them is there, I recommend you use Ondemand Govern' and Noop I/O...
Again, not all kernels are gonna have that score..
If i made a great mistake, don't be afraid to correct me especially Pepoluan ...
BTW i'm using REMICS v1.7 by sparta20 and Forvivos kernel...
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AFAIK, governor's clock speed will be "locked" to the highest possible clock when you are running benchmark. let's take lulzactive as an example. look at this line
DEFAULT_INC_CPU_LOAD 70
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, 70 means when processor's load is reaching 70% , the clock speed will be increased some steps. in benchmarking, cpu load is always high >>90%(i'm not sure so CMIIW) that means your clock speed will always be locked in that highest possible value no matter what your governor is (even conservative). the only difference is how long they need to get up to the next level of clock speed
so personal experience will be better to get your right value rather than benchmarking. every governor has difference time to reach higher level of clock speed which is not be able to be experienced in benchmarking. this is contrary to personal experience(daily use) which you can feel how your phone react toward a command. let's take example of the most battery saving(conservative) and highest performance(performance). you can feel that conservative is rather slow in executing command while performance will give nice personal experience. both of them didn't give any significant difference in benchmarking score but both of them can give significant difference in personal experience
i hope you get my point here
CMIIW
Thanks alot But according to personal experience, I nvr felt any lag whatsoever... In gaming like shadow gun, didn't feel that much lag compared to the stock kernel from Samsung...
Thanks for correcting me anyway! I appreciate it
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