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I am not sure if this has been answered before, but will the European Models work with the USA Tmobile's HSPA+ bands?
I want to purchase one from Europe, but if the data will not work obviously there is no point.
Thank you in advance.
No, unless you happen to be lucky enough to live in an area with the 1900mhz band deployed.
Funk2641 said:
No, unless you happen to be lucky enough to live in an area with the 1900mhz band deployed.
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Which AFAIK is a very small number of places in California.
If I understand correctly, they're planning to expand that greatly over the next couple of years though, likely hoping to poach iPhone / iPad users off other networks.
i thought 1900 was the 2g data band and tmo 3g and 4g is 2100?
matt3allen said:
i thought 1900 was the 2g data band and tmo 3g and 4g is 2100?
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I am afraid you need both: 1700-2100
matt3allen said:
i thought 1900 was the 2g data band and tmo 3g and 4g is 2100?
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T-Mob has started (in a very few number of places) switching to 1900MHz 4G.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1748046-T-Mobile-is-deploying-1900MHz-HSPA-4G
We have 1900Mhz here in Utah
My friend's iPhone 4S gets 3G on T-Mo, so if I can get the cash I'll definitely grab a One X.
U jelly?
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U jelly?
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EABOD. :-D
I wonder if they will end up officially carrying it or a variant themselves.
We can always hope
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I'm glad this thread was created, I'm currently with an international Sensation XE and am seriously ready to pull the trigger on the international One X for that 720p screen and 32 Gig's of internal but am currently waiting for confirmation before I shell out 6+ on a new toy with 2g data
I don't belive Boston, Ma is running 3g on 1900...
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I'm glad this thread was created, I'm currently with an international Sensation XE and am seriously ready to pull the trigger on the international One X for that 720p screen and 32 Gig's of internal but am currently waiting for confirmation before I shell out 6+ on a new toy with 2g data
I don't belive Boston, Ma is running 3g on 1900...
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It isn't :/
I asked Tmo this question on Twitter and this is their responce:
T-Mobile USA @TMobileHelp Reply Retweet Favorited · Open
@mrjenigma As long as it has our bands 850 ; 900 ;1800 ;1900 ; UMTS: Band I (2100); UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100); UMTS: Band VIII (900) ^KN
This response is pretty much a no response. It is known that T-Mo has deployed 1900 UMTS in parts of US. T-Mobile also announced refarming their 1900 GSM to 1900 UMTS. In order to get a good answer, it's best to talk to a high level T-Mo customer serv/tech serv.
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I asked Tmo this question on Twitter and this is their responce:
T-Mobile USA @TMobileHelp Reply Retweet Favorited · Open
@mrjenigma As long as it has our bands 850 ; 900 ;1800 ;1900 ; UMTS: Band I (2100); UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100); UMTS: Band VIII (900) ^KN
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Thanks for the quick reply guys. I was confused with all the bands as well.
I live in Central Florida, so i doubt they have it here as well :/
Any rumors that the One X might come to Tmobile after the One S?
There was one rumor that the One X will come to T-Mo as the G4X. There hasn't been any recent news on the rumor tho. So continue keeping your fingers crossed.
ydizzle said:
Thanks for the quick reply guys. I was confused with all the bands as well.
I live in Central Florida, so i doubt they have it here as well :/
Any rumors that the One X might come to Tmobile after the One S?
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In short, no it will not get 3G or fake 4G on T-Mobile.
Unless you are one of the lucky few in California that has 1900mhz 3G/fake 4G.
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There was one rumor that the One X will come to T-Mo as the G4X. There hasn't been any recent news on the rumor tho. So continue keeping your fingers crossed.
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yeap i read about this in a couple of websites also......
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There was one rumor that the One X will come to T-Mo as the G4X. There hasn't been any recent news on the rumor tho. So continue keeping your fingers crossed.
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I just spoke with one of their representatives they said they will be getting the One S..only TMo UK will get the One X
The HTC One S will be Tmo US, The One X will be ATT and the One V will be Verizon. Sprint has planned release but nothing is in stone yet.
gwuhua1984 said:
There was one rumor that the One X will come to T-Mo as the G4X. There hasn't been any recent news on the rumor tho. So continue keeping your fingers crossed.
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I think the LG Optimus 4x HD is supposed to be the TMobile G4x
So AT&T's website finally has the Note II listed, I noticed it only lists it having Tri-Band 3G (850/1900/2100 MHz) as well as the FM Radio not being listed as a feature. You guys think this is just AT&T software disabling the extra band and the radio or what? I'm kind of disappointed as I was hoping AT&T wouldn't be gimping the Note this time around...
It lists LTE right at the top of the specs.
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All of ATT phones have always been tri-band 3G, what are you complaining about again?
I have the AT&T Note II. How do I check for the FM radio?
I believe there would be an FM Radio app in the app drawer.
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Guys what I'm saying is that the AT&T Note II doesn't support Quad-Band 3G like the international does. I thought they were all supposed to be the same across carriers.
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Guys what I'm saying is that the AT&T Note II doesn't support Quad-Band 3G like the international does. I thought they were all supposed to be the same across carriers.
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The att one supports LTE, international doesn't. How is that the same?
They are the same as far as CPU, ram, GPU etc. Not radios.
AT&T Note II Specs
I copied these specs, off AT&T'S premier site.
Specifications
Dimensions: 3.17 x 5.95 x 0.37 inches
Weight: 6.35 ounces
Display: 5.5-inch; 1280 x 720 HD Super AMOLED(TM) (264 ppi); 16 million colors
Device eco-rating: 5 Stars. Visit www.att.com/ecospace for additional information.
Operating System: Android(TM)
Processor: 1.6GHz quad-core
Battery: 3100 mAh (removable)
Talk Time: Up to 15 hours
Standby Time: Up to 12.5 days
Technology: GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/LTE*
Frequency: GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz; UMTS: 850/1900/2100MHz; LTE:* Bands 4 and 17
Data Transmission: 4G
Internal Memory: Up to 16GB
External Memory Card: microSD(TM) up to 64GB (removable)
Near Field Communication (NFC): S Beam (Open)
TTY Compatible
Hearing Aid (HAC) rating: M3
*Limited 4G LTE availability in select markets. 4G speeds not available everywhere. LTE is a trademark of ETSI.
Seems to have all the GSM bands!
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The att one supports LTE, international doesn't. How is that the same?
They are the same as far as CPU, ram, GPU etc. Not radios.
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I feel stupid now... I swear I though the International model had LTE for once.
KosanRio said:
I feel stupid now... I swear I though the International model had LTE for once.
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not US..
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I feel stupid now... I swear I though the International model had LTE for once.
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The N7105 does have LTE, but it doesnt support AT&T bands. The N7100 does not have LTE. Both versions are international.
So you were correct in thinking - don't feel stupid
There are 4 versions of Note:
1. International (+LTE): SGH-7100 / SGH -7105
2. SGH-i317 : ATT+(Rogers+Bell + Telus): HSPA 850/900/1900/2100, LTE: 700/850/1700/1900
3. SCH-i605 : CDMA + LTE 700
4. SGH-T889 : T-Mobile+Mobilicity+Wind : HSPA: 850/900/1700/1900/2100, LTE: 700, 1700
These are from FCC filings
EDIT: I posted about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1956264
T-Mobile's variant seems to be the better choice even if you are on AT&T based on the FCC filings anyway
According to GSM arenas review of the GN2 there isn't one!
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blognc said:
I have the AT&T Note II. How do I check for the FM radio?
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how? how do you have the phone ???
ianwardell said:
how? how do you have the phone ???
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He got it at the NYC launch event on the 24th. Nice to have press credentials.
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He got it at the NYC launch event on the 24th. Nice to have press credentials.
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Lucky guy! Ill be waiting like the rest of us ,and a bit longer ...I want to make sure there are no bugs like my tf201 has lol.
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Hopefully AT&T didn't hardware disable the FM radio or something...
Anyone know where the FM radio is usually integrated on phones now a days? didn't it used to be part of the Bluetooth chip on smartphones?
Funk2641 said:
All of ATT phones have always been tri-band 3G, what are you complaining about again?
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mr mystery said:
There are 4 versions of Note:
1. International (+LTE): SGH-7100 / SGH -7105
2. SGH-i317 : ATT+(Rogers+Bell + Telus): HSPA 850/900/1900/2100, LTE: 700/850/1700/1900
3. SCH-i605 : CDMA + LTE 700
4. SGH-T889 : T-Mobile+Mobilicity+Wind : HSPA: 850/900/1700/1900/2100, LTE: 700, 1700
These are from FCC filings
EDIT: I posted about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1956264
T-Mobile's variant seems to be the better choice even if you are on AT&T based on the FCC filings anyway
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Some info in this thread is just plain contradiction. For example, the above two quoted posts contradict to each other. Is AT&T tri-band or quad-band UMTS after all?
It comes down to what to believe, because FCC filings contradicts to what people say and what cellphone website says. For example, phonearena lists the band specs of i-317 as this:
GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz / UMTS 850, 1900, 2100 MHz / LTE 700 MHz Class 17, 1700/2100 MHz
Here, i-317 is quad-band GSM and tri-band 3G (not what FCC filing says).
Also, the website lists T889 as this:
GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz / UMTS 850, 1700/2100, 2100 MHz / NO LTE
Here, T889 has 3G 850, AWS, 2100, which also is not what FCC filing says, besides there is no LTE support.
Some information here has got to be misinformation, but which one is it?
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Some info in this thread is just plain contradiction. For example, the above two quoted posts contradict to each other. Is AT&T tri-band or quad-band UMTS after all?
It comes down to what to believe, because FCC filings contradicts to what people say and what cellphone website says. For example, phonearena lists the band specs of i-317 as this:
GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz / UMTS 850, 1900, 2100 MHz / LTE 700 MHz Class 17, 1700/2100 MHz
Here, i-317 is quad-band GSM and tri-band 3G (not what FCC filing says).
Also, the website lists T889 as this:
GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz / UMTS 850, 1700/2100, 2100 MHz / NO LTE
Here, T889 has 3G 850, AWS, 2100, which also is not what FCC filing says, besides there is no LTE support.
Some information here has got to be misinformation, but which one is it?
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I agree on the contradiction for sure, what FCC tested vs what is being listed are different. The OP I had had the links to the FCC filings as well but I guess they we against the rules because mods removed the links.
Ye I wasn't giving doubt on the credibility of your source. It's just that i'm kind of confused by all kinds of information. Both phonearena and pdadb (checked just now) shows that T889 has no LTE support and even more interesting, pdadb lists i317 as quad-band UMTS, which phonearena lists as tri-band... I know it sounds like a nerd but it's driving me crazy as I'm doing research and decide on which version to get LOL
For now, I guess I'll only need to know if it's ever possible to flash N7100 rom onto i317 or T889, if not, i'm giving up LTE and stay with faster/earlier European OTA updates, like *DBT* :good:
Hi there,
Can anyone confirm for sure and tested the following question:
How many bands for GSM, HSDPA and LTE does the T-Mobile Galaxy S4 (M919) have? Are they the same bands as the International S4 LTE (I9505)?
Based on the wikipedia page for Samsung Galaxy S4, the model I9505 has more LTE bands than the T-Mobile M919 version, is that completely true and technically proven?
Most of the websites state that the M919 and the I9505 has the same bands for all GSM, HSDPA and LTE.
I appreciate if someone can lead me to the ultimate answer.
Thanks.
Tmobile uses AWS for 4g LTE which requires 2100/1700 frequency. The GT-i9505 only supports 2100mhz i believe, which is not enough.
I think the GT-i9505 supports one of the several frequencies that Tmobile uses for HDSPA, so HDSPA coverage may be a bit spotty with the phone. This was referenced off the top of my head, but I had done some research online about this before as I had similar questions as you.
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Here's an article on the frequencies that just came out that may help you OP.
tikoracer said:
Hi there,
Can anyone confirm for sure and tested the following question:
How many bands for GSM, HSDPA and LTE does the T-Mobile Galaxy S4 (M919) have? Are they the same bands as the International S4 LTE (I9505)?
Based on the wikipedia page for Samsung Galaxy S4, the model I9505 has more LTE bands than the T-Mobile M919 version, is that completely true and technically proven?
Most of the websites state that the M919 and the I9505 has the same bands for all GSM, HSDPA and LTE.
I appreciate if someone can lead me to the ultimate answer.
Thanks.
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You can find all the information on the Wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S4
I9505 lacks the 1700MHz LTE band which is needed in T-Mobile LTE.
That's weird, I can swear that wiki page had different information yesterday about the I9505 LTE bands
macaumen said:
You can find all the information on the Wiki page
I9505 lacks the 1700MHz LTE band which is needed in T-Mobile LTE.
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Hey so looking at the wiki that you guys posted up there it says following for the tmobile version: 700 MHz (Band 17), CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E
now i somehow got my hand on one of these devices in europe for rather cheap and totally new, so im confused now what these CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E are, does any of these stand for any other than the 700mhz band? like 1700/1800mhz? or in other words, is it possible to get lte to work in europe with the tmobile usa s4? Can the modem perhaps be flashed with an i9505 one and than get the additional bands or is the hardware actualyl that different (as in antennas and amplifiers)?
Its not really a dealbreaker for me as LTE in my country is quite some time away but still, would like to know.
thanks
In simple words, the LTE bands are (not in order): Band 1 (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 4 (1700), Band 5 (850), Band 7 (2600), Band 17 (700), so we have the LTE bands available for the T-Mobile version: 700, 850, 1700, 1900, 2100 and 2600.
crnkoj said:
Hey so looking at the wiki that you guys posted up there it says following for the tmobile version: 700 MHz (Band 17), CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E
now i somehow got my hand on one of these devices in europe for rather cheap and totally new, so im confused now what these CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E are, does any of these stand for any other than the 700mhz band? like 1700/1800mhz? or in other words, is it possible to get lte to work in europe with the tmobile usa s4? Can the modem perhaps be flashed with an i9505 one and than get the additional bands or is the hardware actualyl that different (as in antennas and amplifiers)?
Its not really a dealbreaker for me as LTE in my country is quite some time away but still, would like to know.
thanks
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tikoracer said:
In simple words, the LTE bands are (not in order): Band 1 (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 4 (1700), Band 5 (850), Band 7 (2600), Band 17 (700), so we have the LTE bands available for the T-Mobile version: 700, 850, 1700, 1900, 2100 and 2600.
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sorry for asking it again, but that basically means the tmobile version has most bands that are used enabled? just have to figure what bands are being used in my country... thanks really
edit: checked the bands here naturally its 800 and 1800, so my question remains, can i somehow flash the phone to work on these?
Check the picture attached, this photo is from the original T-Mobile US Samsung Galaxy S4 (M919) box.
crnkoj said:
sorry for asking it again, but that basically means the tmobile version has most bands that are used enabled? just have to figure what bands are being used in my country... thanks really
edit: checked the bands here naturally its 800 and 1800, so my question remains, can i somehow flash the phone to work on these?
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No, you can't flash a I9505 rom to a M919 device, if you do, you will brick it. The best option for you to get 800 and 1800 frequencies is to go for the GT-I9505, it's the Samsung Galaxy S4 LTE version, and it has the following bands for LTE Cat 3 (800 / 850 / 900 / 1,800 / 2,100 / 2,600 MHz). This is the official Samsung page: http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/smartphone/GT-I9505ZKAXSA-spec
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sorry for asking it again, but that basically means the tmobile version has most bands that are used enabled? just have to figure what bands are being used in my country... thanks really
edit: checked the bands here naturally its 800 and 1800, so my question remains, can i somehow flash the phone to work on these?
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Yes, it seems that the I9505 has LTE bands for each region, it's not dedicated for America (North, Central and South), it also support Europe and Asia, while it doesn't contain most bands for a specific region, it's a world phone, unlucky doesn't fully support T-Mobile 4G UTMS network (1700/2100), but still a good option for those who travel to other continents.
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Tmobile uses AWS for 4g LTE which requires 2100/1700 frequency. The GT-i9505 only supports 2100mhz i believe, which is not enough.
I think the GT-i9505 supports one of the several frequencies that Tmobile uses for HDSPA, so HDSPA coverage may be a bit spotty with the phone. This was referenced off the top of my head, but I had done some research online about this before as I had similar questions as you.
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Flashing just the modem doesn't work either?
I haven't tried flashing modems into another devices that don't correspond to their own. I can't help you with that answer at this time
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Flashing just the modem doesn't work either?
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I haven't tried flashing modems into another devices that don't correspond to their own. I can't help you with that answer at this time
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i asked that because i have an att atrix, on which its possible to flash european modems without a problem, thanks for your time man, i hope someone will try this and it works
Question...are all those other things i've been hearing about other ppl successfully getting 4g reception after doing something to either with the aws band's, or to the software true? does anyone know for sure? i'm very thankful for any input, as i've been hearing so many conflicting things when it comes to the i9505 and getting 4g service with t-mobile, i just want a proven answer :/
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nycemc said:
Question...are all those other things i've been hearing about other ppl successfully getting 4g reception after doing something to either with the aws band's, or to the software true? does anyone know for sure? i'm very thankful for any input, as i've been hearing so many conflicting things when it comes to the i9505 and getting 4g service with t-mobile, i just want a proven answer :/
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T-mobile is 4g lte and super fast
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crnkoj said:
Hey so looking at the wiki that you guys posted up there it says following for the tmobile version: 700 MHz (Band 17), CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E
now i somehow got my hand on one of these devices in europe for rather cheap and totally new, so im confused now what these CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E are, does any of these stand for any other than the 700mhz band? like 1700/1800mhz? or in other words, is it possible to get lte to work in europe with the tmobile usa s4? Can the modem perhaps be flashed with an i9505 one and than get the additional bands or is the hardware actualyl that different (as in antennas and amplifiers)?
Its not really a dealbreaker for me as LTE in my country is quite some time away but still, would like to know.
thanks
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I bought my S4 T-mobile (SGH-M919) in USA. And it is fine working in Spain with 4G. But when i have upgraded it to Marshmallow then only works with HSPA(H+) as better. Change baseband? i am not sure to do it...mmmm
I was wondering if I purchase an unlocked HTC one, will it work with Verizon?
You have to see the frequencies of the carrier
But, probably, yes!
in a word, no.
It has no CDMA radio, which is required for voice. Not to mention VZW hasn't ever let you bring a device to their network from the outside.
gunnyman said:
in a word, no.
It has no CDMA radio, which is required for voice. Not to mention VZW hasn't ever let you bring a device to their network from the outside.
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My friend said me that verizon use GSM radio...
I'm confused
Guich said:
You have to see the frequencies of the carrier
But, probably, yes!
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in a word, no.
It has no CDMA radio, which is required for voice. Not to mention VZW hasn't ever let you bring a device to their network from the outside.
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Okay, I checked and the Frequencies are the same but HTC One unlocked says nothing about CDMA. Thanks for the help
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My friend said me that verizon use GSM radio...
I'm confused
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VZW uses two different technologies.
the voice is carried on CDMA as is their 3G EVDO data.
LTE is used, but not the same bands as AT&T or T-Mobile.
The only major carriers in the US on GSM are T-Mobile and AT&T (and their mvno's)
Hi, it looks like I'm reviving this thread...
I've done a bit of homework and on htc.com the One specs are as follows:
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSPA+ 42 Mbps
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA:
800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - LTE:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 800/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 MHz
T-Mobile (US)/ AT&T/ Canada/ Latin America: 700 MHz and AWS band
Sprint: 1900 MHz
On the Samsung Galaxy S4 for Verizon:
LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS(850/900/1900/2100)
It looks to me like the phone supports all ranges and has both styles/types of radios. Has anyone been able to get an unlocked One working with Verizon? Does anyone know how to do it? If I buy an unlocked One, would it come packed with all the network support as listed above or do they manufacture them with only a specific radio/frequency range in mind?
d-pabs said:
Hi, it looks like I'm reviving this thread...
I've done a bit of homework and on htc.com the One specs are as follows:
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSPA+ 42 Mbps
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA:
800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - LTE:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 800/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 MHz
T-Mobile (US)/ AT&T/ Canada/ Latin America: 700 MHz and AWS band
Sprint: 1900 MHz
On the Samsung Galaxy S4 for Verizon:
LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS(850/900/1900/2100)
It looks to me like the phone supports all ranges and has both styles/types of radios. Has anyone been able to get an unlocked One working with Verizon? Does anyone know how to do it? If I buy an unlocked One, would it come packed with all the network support as listed above or do they manufacture them with only a specific radio/frequency range in mind?
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Nope
No
Stop nope, just no.
Verizon and Sprint use CDMA as their base on their Network. The only HTC One with CDMA is the Sprint version. But you can't use the Sprint version on Verizon.
That's why when the Sprint version was released developers had to tweak their roms and recoveries since the outside was the same but the insides no.
Yes LTE is gsm based and requires a GSM radio. And yes when the Verizon HTC one is released it can be used on TMo and AT&T. Since it has both CDMA & GSM radios.
But NO NO NO you CAN NOT use a AT&T, T-Mobile, Dev Edition,Sprint, or Iternational HTC One on Verizon.
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which is required for voice.
Until Voice over LTE is fully implemented voice is still falling back into CDMA.
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Thanks for your help! I realized I was misunderstanding the way those specs were written, thinking a single phone carried all those ranges and could work equally across the board.
I'm leaning towards getting an unlocked phone for T-Mobile. Any suggestions on where to get it from? If I get it from T-Mobile then it will likely have bloat on it which I don't care for. I could get it from Google Play or HTC's shopamerica...Is there an "easy" way to determine whether or not a phone will fully function on a particular network? Clearly my line of thinking on just making sure the frequency ranges match up is rather off!
Depends what freq your carrier uses for 3G etc. Only the international and dev edition are bloat free. But your at xda there are threads all over the place to help you debloat.
Again T-Mobile is the only one with 1700 3G band.
The dev doesn't have 1700, but has other extra bands. And the international lacks LTE.
Only Verizon will sell their version of the ONE. All the others are all over the internet.
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Tachi91 said:
Again T-Mobile is the only one with 1700 3G band.
The dev doesn't have 1700, but has other extra bands. And the international lacks LTE.
Only Verizon will sell their version of the ONE. All the others are all over the internet.
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So if I travel internationally and want to have the use of LTE, it sounds like I would need to get the unlocked "international" One? If the so-called "developer" version of the One doesn't have the 1700 band, will one of the other bands take over/compensate? In other words, will the developer phone still be fully functional? I also assume that by "developer" phone you're referring to both the unlocked 32 and 64Gb phones sold at shopamerica.com?
Lastly, here's what I'm doing: I want to buy a phone that I can use in the US and if I travel to Canada, I want to make sure it is compatible with their networks too so all I would need to do is pick up a new sim card and be off to the races. If I'm understanding everything, then the phone on shopamerica should be sufficient.
Any thoughts? Thanks again for the help! I've never dealt with network matching and unlocked phones. Can you tell?!
Stick with the developer edition since it offers more 3G bands ... LTE outside the US it would depend if whatever carrier you use on that country uses any any of the LTE bands it supports.
A lot of the major carriers around the world use similar 3G bands most will work on this phone. Again it all depends on which carried you use.
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Considering selling my at&t note 4 when my pre-order is filled and buying a T-Mobile version to use on at&t.
Any reception issues?
No issues for me at all. Get great service everywhere, including lte
I was planning on doing so, but I noticed the T-Mobile variant is missing of the LTE Bands that the AT&T one has. Not sure if that will create any problems down the road. Any thoughts on if that matters?
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ARHMogul said:
I was planning on doing so, but I noticed the T-Mobile variant is missing of the LTE Bands that the AT&T one has. Not sure if that will create any problems down the road. Any thoughts on if that matters?
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ATT is not using those 2 bands in the US. (20 and 29 lte) It might be for international use in which case I'd rather have the tmobile ones. Anyway, according to Wikipedia they don't even own spectrum in one of those bands so deployment is years off even if they decide to do it. Plus the note 4 would have to go through the FCC again because it wasn't approved to run on those bands in the USA. Those extra bands are not anything to be worried about.
EDIT: Ok, I found some more info. There are no deployments of band 29 in the US yet. Band 29 is downlink only and is used with band 4. This will be AT&T's LTE advanced setup.
Thanks for the info! Time to go to TMobile and get me an unlocked Note 4.. Will they unlock them for you right in the store or no?
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ATT is not using those 2 bands in the US. (20 and 29 lte) It might be for international use in which case I'd rather have the tmobile ones. Anyway, according to Wikipedia they don't even own spectrum in one of those bands so deployment is years off even if they decide to do it. Plus the note 4 would have to go through the FCC again because it wasn't approved to run on those bands in the USA. Those extra bands are not anything to be worried about.
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band 29 is for LTE-Advance
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band 29 is for LTE-Advance
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Ya, been reading up on it. I still think it will be a while before it gets deployed and probably if you're not in a big city you'll have to wait longer like the wait for LTE.
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ARHMogul said:
Thanks for the info! Time to go to TMobile and get me an unlocked Note 4.. Will they unlock them for you right in the store or no?
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No you need to use cellunlocker.net or a similar service.
Thanks for everyone's help. I'm trying to find this information on the Internet, but some of it is like Greek to me.
What bands does att use in US?
What bands does the T-Mobile note 4 handle?
What bands will not be possible on the T-Mobile note 4? Bands 20+29?
Sorry for the questions, just trying to learn and you guys seem like you know your stuff.
ATT Uses:
GSM: 850, 1900 Mhz
HSPA/UMTS: 850, 1900 MHz
LTE: Band 4, 17 (29 for LTE-Advanced)
Tmobile uses:
GSM: 850, 1900 Mhz
HSPA/UMTS: 1700, 1900 Mhz
LTE: Band 4, 12
Tmobile Note 4 Supports:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS: Band 1 (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 4 (1700), Band 5 (850)
LTE: Band 4 (1700), Band 12 (700a), Band 1 (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 3 (1800), Band 5 (850), Band 7 (2600), Band 8 (900), Band 17 (700bc)
Tmobile Note 4 does not support band 29 but imo it's a small price to pay for an unlocked bootloader. Plus, there are no deployments of ATT's LTE-Advanced network (Band 29/4) in the US yet and depending on where you live it could take years to reach you.
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ATT Uses:
GSM: 850, 1900 Mhz
HSPA/UMTS: 850, 1900 MHz
LTE: Band 4, 17 (29 for LTE-Advanced; Not deployed yet in 2014)
Tmobile uses:
GSM: 850, 1900 Mhz
HSPA/UMTS: 1700, 1900 Mhz
LTE: 4, 12
Tmobile Note 4 Supports:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS: Band 1 (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 4 (1700), Band 5 (850)
LTE: Band 4 (1700), Band 12 (700a), Band 1 (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 3 (1800), Band 5 (850), Band 7 (2600), Band 8 (900), Band 17 (700bc)
Tmobile Note 4 does not support band 29 but imo it's a small price to pay for an unlocked bootloader. Plus, there are no deployments of ATT's LTE-Advanced network (Band 29/4) in the US yet and depending on where you live it could take years to reach you.
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This is super helpful.
So let me ask you, when you say the T-Mobile version is missing the advanced lte bands (20&29), does that mean the phone will only miss the benefit of the next gen lte speeds?
So for example, 20&29 go live in my area, I have the tmo version, I'll still have lte just not super/advanced lte?
Thank you again for your time and expertise!
yogi217 said:
This is super helpful.
So let me ask you, when you say the T-Mobile version is missing the advanced lte bands (20&29), does that mean the phone will only miss the benefit of the next gen lte speeds?
So for example, 20&29 go live in my area, I have the tmo version, I'll still have lte just not super/advanced lte?
Thank you again for your time and expertise!
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Ok first thing, band 29 is download only so it is used in conjunction with band 4. Band 20 is for who knows what but I haven't seen any news about ATT's plans for that band. It's not a part of ATT's LTE Advanced plans as far as I can tell. It may be there for international support only.
Yes you are right that you will continue to get LTE just not LTE advanced, and that might be a year or most likely longer before it reaches you. Think of the timeline for ATT's LTE rollout. I researched a bit today and found that Chicago supposedly has the first actual deployment.
Also, ATT has said they are not doing their deployment of LTE Advanced to increase user speed. It is just for network capacity. So you might not see speed increases at all according to ATT's presentation at Mobile World Congress. Tmobile is in a better position capacity wise because it owns more AWS spectrum (higher frequency = faster data). They are deploying wideband LTE.
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Ok first thing, band 29 is download only so it is used in conjunction with band 4. Band 20 is for who knows what but I haven't seen any news about ATT's plans for that band. It's not a part of ATT's LTE Advanced plans as far as I can tell. It may be there for international support only.
Yes you are right that you will continue to get LTE just not LTE advanced, and that might be a year or most likely longer before it reaches you. Think of the timeline for ATT's LTE rollout. I researched a bit today and found that Chicago supposedly has the first actual deployment.
Also, ATT has said that they are not doing their deployment of LTE Advanced to increase user speed. It is just for network capacity. So you might not see speed increases at all according to ATT's presentation at Mobile World Congress. Tmobile is in a better position capacity wise because is owns more AWS spectrum (higher frequency = faster data). They are deploying wideband LTE.
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You da man! Thank you for your help and knowledge!
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Can any of you with a T-Mobile device on a different network tell me what service you used to unlock your phone? I saw a mention of cellunlocker.net on one thread, but it says on their site it could take up to 15 days to get the unlock for the T-Mobile Note 4. Is this typical? I've never used one of these services, so I don't know what the better routes are. Thanks!
Att lte advanced has been deployed in NYC since the iPhone 6. It's fast but tmobile is faster I think.
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Can any of you with a T-Mobile device on a different network tell me what service you used to unlock your phone? I saw a mention of cellunlocker.net on one thread, but it says on their site it could take up to 15 days to get the unlock for the T-Mobile Note 4. Is this typical? I've never used one of these services, so I don't know what the better routes are. Thanks!
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Cellunlocker.net got me my code in less than an hour even though it was 8 pm when I requested it.
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Cellunlocker.net got me my code in less than an hour even though it was 8 pm when I requested it.
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How is network performance using the TMO version on AT&T? Last year with the Note 3, I had such horrible LTE reception I took it back. T-Mobile devices are not optimized for band 17 support. It comes down to: you want a phone that gets a great signal, or you want a phone you can root/rom.
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How is network performance using the TMO version on AT&T? Last year with the Note 3, I had such horrible LTE reception I took it back. T-Mobile devices are not optimized for band 17 support. It comes down to: you want a phone that gets a great signal, or you want a phone you can root/rom.
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From what I have seen everything should be working fine. If you live in a city that has LTEa you will miss or on improved performance with band 29, but that should not effect most people.
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Cellunlocker.net wants $30. Anyone of a cheaper place that is just as reliable?
Would a blocked tmobile note 4 with regional unlock work on att ?
Hi All
Just to add my 2 cents...
I went from a At&T Note3 to TMO Note4
Just put my Note 3 Sim into the Note 4 and am up and running for about a week now...
When I log in to my ATT online account it still shows The Note 3 though but as I said all is well for now.