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[Q] I'm getting that feeling again.

This is NOT a Thread that I'm selling my Epic in, I need help deciding whether to keep my Epic or not. I want to change my Epic for an Evo 4G/BlackBerry. I like it and all, but the Epic just doesn't have enough development. I'd have to either get the Evo and Flash my phone EVERYday like I used to with my G1, or get a BlackBerry Bold 9650 and not Flash it at all. the Evo is a nice phone, it has all features working on CM7 which is a big plus for me, it's always up-to-date with MIUI, and was the phone I was going to get first, but it was sold out and I was impatient and I obviously regret it. Or, I could get a BlackBerry. Their much more simple and would meet my standards, but I'm afraid of Android-Withdrawal, but I could take it to OS6 and that looks cool.
So, what does everyone here think. Should I keep the Epic, let the price go down with more use, and wait to see what happens? Should I trade it in and get some cash and buy an Evo in order to fill my flashing addictions? Or should I sell it and buy a BlackBerry Tour2 9650 so that I can't Flash anymore, but have a pretty good phone? And the final option, should I just keep my Epic 4G, and live with it, and hope for the best?

Drop the epic and get an EVO lots of Rome to flash . Unless u Want to wait till September for the gingerbread update . Then the flashing begins for epic.
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Keep the epic...CM7 will be out when official gingerbread in released!

I don't know man. September is a few months away, and that IF we get GingerBread then. And even though, we'll have CM7 ROMs from 3 different developers, a few AOSP from a few different developers, and maybe 2 MIUI ROMs. I wonder if we'll ever have Sense or a Port of maybe the Droid3? Or LG Optimus 2X? I don't think we have enough people.

Someone is already working on a sense port, the same dev that's working on miui. And we have a cm7 alpha 4. We need gingerbread source code to help move us along.
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Id rather QUALITY over quantity!
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Original Android <3ers! said:
I could take it to OS6 and that looks cool.
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I came from a BB bold 9700. I did some beta testing for OS 6 on it. It was very nice but that is all the tinkering you could do with it was put a leak version of the OS or beta test. So I would say you have already commented on "flash withdrawal" so BB will be nice for about a month then you will be bored with it. One of the reasons I got the Epic was because of the keyboard coming from a BB and the screen size. My other options were the Intercept (which my son has) or the Shift but again the screen sold me on the Epic. I didn't even look to root or custom ROMS for at least 2 months after I bought it. But once you start it is hard to go back.
Hi my name is John and I am a flashaholic...LOL

Look up the ORD Thread in the Off-Topic. That's us. That Thread was my idea btw.
And I guess I'll stay. I guessssss...

Sounds like you've already made up your mind and are just looking for someone to talk you out of it... I carry a crackberry and my epic. The crackberry is free and I can do what I want with it, but I still keep an android that costs me ~40 bux a month and has horrific cell coverage most of the time just because it's an Android and the berry sucks for anything other than email.
I don't know much about the Evo other than it's large development base, crappy screen and lack of keyboard. If flashing a new ROM everyday is your goal, then get the Evo and live with the lackluster video performance and on screen keyboards.
If the only reason you're ditching the Epic is due to lack of development, then develop something...

I forgot to mention that the Epic's keyboard sucks and I barley use it. If at all. And I can't develop. My friends will think differently of me. Lol jk, I'm too lazy and I don't have the time. All these devs are high ballers. I wouldn't compare. They wouldn't take me as seriously.

keep the EPIC !!!!! it's a better phone !!!!!! ( just sayin' )

Proof of this concept?

So have u decided what u gonna do?
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TexasEpic4G said:
keep the EPIC !!!!! it's a better phone !!!!!! ( just sayin' )
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Agree until the SGSII
"The greatest respect you can earn is self respect" Louie Simmons

Oh boy! Wait until you turn on the evo screen. You will shat bricks! Since your eyes are used to the super amoled screen, youll notice how god awfull the evo screen looks.
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SINNN said:
Oh boy! Wait until you turn on the evo screen. You will shat bricks! Since your eyes are used to the super amoled screen, youll notice how god awfull the evo screen looks.
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-better hardware
-better screen
-faster
-can play tegra2, xperia play games on it
I mean sure EvO has more roms but how many do you really need. My sister has an EVO and I read thru the EVO section and concluded only 4-5 roms are actually worth trying Synergy-Kingdom, MIkG, MIUI, CM7 or Gingerdeck and thats about it...The last three we will hopefully get once GB is released.

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Hi my name is John and I am a flashaholic...LOL
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Hi John!
There totally should be an AFA (Android flashers Anon) cause I'd be in it.
I've only had the Epic for a couple months, but I wouldn't trade it for any of the other phones available for Sprint right now. It's fast, great hardware, and has a full keyboard. I use a handful of other devices for work, and my Epic is the best by far. (my Galaxy Tab is a close 2nd) It feels weird not having some new rom/customization come out every couple weeks or days on the Epic, but I've adapted to a slower dev cycle that I was used to. And honestly, the only thing keeping me from running one of the GB leaks is the lack of a custom kernel to fix the hw keyboard lag. So until there's something that feels and works as good or better than my Epic, I'll be hanging on to it for dear life..

No offense but hopefully sucks.....especially if u upgrade yearly.....the good thing I learned my lesson and not going through that again.
But again that's just me.
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What will you retire your DInc for?

So idk how many of you are like me and follow popular android blogs like Droid-life or Android Central, but lately there has been a crazy amount of discussion about all these new super phones that are coming out in the next few months. And also if you are like me, then your contract is going to be up around the holiday season or a little after because that is 20 months after our phone was released.
I am just trying to get a little discussion going about what you think your next phone will be, you can answer my poll and/or just talk about what you are looking for in your next phone. Going for a 4.3in screen? Is 4.5in too big? Must be LTE? Needs HD (720p+) screen? Sticking with HTC? Liking the idea of Google/Moto merger? Ice Cream Sandwich or nothing? Will the next Nexus phone come to Verizon? These are just some of the questions that I am curious about and I'm sure that others are too. Happy discussion!

I love htc phones, dont ask me why. I also love sense, so sonething dual core, 4g capable, sense 3.0 or whatever is newest. Rootable. Has to be verizon, right now i wouldnt change.
If ive helped you, please hit the damn thanks button!

I came from the Eris (got my Inc on eBay), so my contract is actually up next week. I'm probably going to get the Vigor if it has everything that is rumored and actually comes out close to that date. I don't want wait til next year.
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Already jumped that boat and I'm happy.

DROID 3 lol
/droid3

The mythical DInc 3 that's rooted already. It's got 16 cores with 4 GB memory, battery never needs changing cause it's powered by love.
EDIT: Seriously, I don't know. Verizon doesn't get great reception where I'm moving, so USCC is gonna be my next carrier. I heard they're coming with 8 phones and possible LTE by fall sometime, so I'm in a holding pattern, but the Inc rocks, no hurry.
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RMarkwald said:
The mythical DInc 3 that's rooted already. It's got 16 cores with 4 GB memory, battery never needs changing cause it's powered by love.
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Sign me up for a box of these lol! I am usually an HTC man myself, but I think my next phone is going to be moto (unless the Nexus ACTUALLY comes to Verizon). I know I'll probably get some **** for this, but I actually like the new Blur. My biggest problem with HTC is the dock on their phones: it only has 3 spaces, you can't change what they are, and one is wasted on the "personalize" menu which there are like 3 other ways to get to. New Blur lets you customize 3 dock spaces and it just seems more functional. But time will tell.

00McD00 said:
Sign me up for a box of these lol! I am usually an HTC man myself, but I think my next phone is going to be moto (unless the Nexus ACTUALLY comes to Verizon). I know I'll probably get some **** for this, but I actually like the new Blur. My biggest problem with HTC is the dock on their phones: it only has 3 spaces, you can't change what they are, and one is wasted on the "personalize" menu which there are like 3 other ways to get to. New Blur lets you customize 3 dock spaces and it just seems more functional. But time will tell.
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Hey, whatever works for you man, nothing wrong with that! I like HTC, but depends on what USCC will get. Verizon likes to pass on phones, and USCC gets the best reception where I'm moving... Time will tell!
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00McD00 said:
My biggest problem with HTC is the dock on their phones: it only has 3 spaces, you can't change what they are, and one is wasted on the "personalize" menu which there are like 3 other ways to get to. New Blur lets you customize 3 dock spaces and it just seems more functional.
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You can use an alternate launcher or custom rom, unless you're really attatched to sense widgets. I just don't think I'd select a phone based on the manufacturer skin's dock.
I'm intrigued by the possibility of the nexus coming to Verizon but I'm not getting my hopes up. At this point, what's important to me for my next phone to have is LTE, nice screen (preferably SAMOLED), and CM7/MIUI support (this would imply an unlockable bootloader). I wouldn't personally be one to buy a phone first day, I'd prefer to wait and see what issues it has and what the development community is like.

Probably Nexus Prime.
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k_nivesout said:
You can use an alternate launcher or custom rom, unless you're really attatched to sense widgets. I just don't think I'd select a phone based on the manufacturer skin's dock.
I'm intrigued by the possibility of the nexus coming to Verizon but I'm not getting my hopes up. At this point, what's important to me for my next phone to have is LTE, nice screen (preferably SAMOLED), and CM7/MIUI support (this would imply an unlockable bootloader). I wouldn't personally be one to buy a phone first day, I'd prefer to wait and see what issues it has and what the development community is like.
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Yeah don't get me wrong, I have been an avid launcher pro user for almost a year. But I would love to be able to just use to stock launcher and just about any one would be usable for me besides sense. And yes being able to unlock it is extremely important to me too, so new HTC phones are looking good for that reason. I am hoping that the Droid HD will follow in the footsteps of the OG.
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Probably Nexus Prime.
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We can only hope so, if that comes to Verizon it will be a glorious day.

Whatever has an AMOLED screen. Its looking like it'll be a Nokia ClearBlack running WP7 or some sort of Samsung Nexus kinda thing. I will certainly miss HTC though when I go!
I know the SLCD's aren't THAT different, but everyone is nitpicky about something and the ever so slight difference just happens to be something that gets to me horribly. I have been intrigued by WP7 for a long time anyways, and I'm sure it will be even more polished by the time I'm ready to peace out the Dinc.
Sense is awesome, and most (non-dev everyday) people I know who have a post-Nexus One HTC phone are in love with it, while there seems to be a large amount of "how come mine doesn't have that" coming from (non-dev everyday) people with other Android devices. I figure the positive feedback I see with WP7 and Nokias recent hardware will give me a solid alternative in 10 months when its time to upgrade.

k_nivesout said:
You can use an alternate launcher or custom rom, unless you're really attatched to sense widgets. I just don't think I'd select a phone based on the manufacturer skin's dock.
I'm intrigued by the possibility of the nexus coming to Verizon but I'm not getting my hopes up. At this point, what's important to me for my next phone to have is LTE, nice screen (preferably SAMOLED), and CM7/MIUI support (this would imply an unlockable bootloader). I wouldn't personally be one to buy a phone first day, I'd prefer to wait and see what issues it has and what the development community is like.
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You can't install any launcher on a Sense ROM. And ADW can kiss my ass for 6 or 7 bucks to do a fraction of what Sense does. I'd suggest hunting down one of the patches that allows you to remap those dock buttons. Something like Myn's Rosie or use a rom that remaps them. I thought pretty much all custom Sense ROMs allowed remapping of 2, if not all the buttons.

RMarkwald said:
Hey, whatever works for you man, nothing wrong with that! I like HTC, but depends on what USCC will get. Verizon likes to pass on phones, and USCC gets the best reception where I'm moving... Time will tell!
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US Cellular? I'm not sure how much of what they say I'd believe. For those who don't know, they're a CDMA carrier which has strongholds in Chicago and many areas of West Virginia.
Not too terribly long ago before the introduction of EVDO Rev.A, USC operated a CDMA network that both Alltel and Verizon used under an interoperability agreement. The problem was US Cellular didn't use standard 1xRTT or EVDO and Alltel and Verizon devices couldn't authenticate on their network. They were possibly THE LAST adopter of EVDO Rev.0 and as of last year still hadn't fully deployed EVDO Rev.A across their network. It was only in the last year and half they got their network compliant with the standards Alltel and Verizon use across IL, and still their coverage is horrible.
In short, I'd be pretty skeptical about any claims they make about LTE until I actually saw proof.

Nokia - Windows Phone. That is assuming Big Red gets a high end one (latest net rumors say they are). Who knows.
If they don't and there is no talk of it coming... I may look into the Nexus Prime if it's on Verizon. Like somebody else said, It's got to be AMOLED.
If it isn't.... I'll be checking out Sprint.

Nothing worth changing for yet
If ive helped you, please hit the damn thanks button!

Another HTC phone I am extremely satisfied with my ability to tinker with this phone especially with the prls. I've got 3g in places I used to get 1x. And miui.us is tight
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I love HTC and Sense but I voted for the Samsung Galaxy SII.
However, in reality, I will probably go for the phone that has the best battery life be that a Samsung or an HTC phone - I'm not wild about Motorola phones.
I am so tired of the crappy battery life on my DInc.

I'm still not sure which phone I'm going to go for, I could upgrade at any moment but I think I'm going to wait. I originally had an OG droid and I loved the sturdyness of Moto's build quality, but I love the lightness and the look of sense on the Incredible.
One thing is for sure I need 4G, at least dual core, 1GB+ RAM, still haven't decided on screen size yet (at least 4"+).
I think I'm going to wait until ICS drops since I'm already in debt up to my earlobes :lol: Buying the Transformer didn't help that.

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You can't install any launcher on a Sense ROM. And ADW can kiss my ass for 6 or 7 bucks to do a fraction of what Sense does. I'd suggest hunting down one of the patches that allows you to remap those dock buttons. Something like Myn's Rosie or use a rom that remaps them. I thought pretty much all custom Sense ROMs allowed remapping of 2, if not all the buttons.
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[Q] Who else is getting the Galaxy Nexus?

Well first off, my Incredible has been a POS ever since I dropped it and cracked the screen, even though I replaced it, it doesnt work right.
Not only that, Im tired of Sense. I was pissed that we got Gingerbread 8 months after it was announced and also even if I get a new HTC phone, Sense has just become too bloated for me.
So how many other people are going to become Android Purists and get the Galaxy Nexus?

you should do a poll.
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As exciting as it is...I still want to wait for the hype to die down a Tad

Already polled here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284463
Even though the names of both phones are now wrong, the Vigor being the Rezound and the Prime being the Galaxy-Nexus.
If you hated Sense that much I'm actually pretty surprised you haven't rooted and put on an AOSP ROM. The DINC has had an awesome development community and we've been lucky enough to have a ton of really great ROMs ported for us and we were never tied to waiting for HTC or being stuck with Sense.

abrin said:
Already polled here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284463
Even though the names of both phones are now wrong, the Vigor being the Rezound and the Prime being the Galaxy-Nexus.
If you hated Sense that much I'm actually pretty surprised you haven't rooted and put on an AOSP ROM. The DINC has had an awesome development community and we've been lucky enough to have a ton of really great ROMs ported for us and we were never tied to waiting for HTC or being stuck with Sense.
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agreed. We have never been short on ROMs. I have found that there have been some really awesome ones with sense. Mctwist is running smooth as ever.
I'm probably going to get the galaxy nexus after it comes out and is clear from any major bugs, but that is just to upgrade because there is nothing wrong with my incredible. It has literally been incredible since the day I got it. It's rare for phones these days to actually be able to do that.

I am getting the Nexus and then using my incredible as a back up.
Will finally have a back up phone that is android.

Still torn on this myself. I will definitely have to see it in person, and I'd like to see how the developer community works out.
Of course by then some new better yet phone will be just around the corner.
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That galaxy nexus looks sweet. I going to have to keep my eye on that one.

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I am getting the Nexus and then using my incredible as a back up.
Will finally have a back up phone that is android.
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Same here. I like a lot - a LOT - of what I've seen and heard about the Vigor/Rezound, but I simply want to give the Galaxy Nexus a solid try. ICS from day one, cutting-edge updates. The ICS presentation in Hong Kong sold me, I don't want to wait weeks to months (I suspect a viable AOSP Inc build within a week of the AOSP ICS release - I'm not as confident on the Vigor, since we don't know the bootloader status yet, and this IS Verizon we're talking about) for ICS on a Vigor.
They're (rumored to be) coming out close enough together, that if I end up disliking my Galaxy Nexus and just like the Rezound better (you can bet I'll be in a B&M VZW store getting my hands on it) I can return and switch.
I really like my Incredible a lot, and I'm floored with the strong dev community for it, and what I've seen of similar things for the EVO family and so on. I hope the same for the Vigor/Rezound will be true. But then again, I've seen an overwhelming majority of anyone with a Nexus phone saying how happy they are with theirs.

For one, I'll be getting it just because it's a Nexus device. I enjoy my Incredible and will continue use it as a backup. I've tried all kinds of Roms and I just wanna try something different. I enjoy Sense but the recent versions have just not been fun for me, maybe that's because of Verizon's locking down or something.

It looks nice, but I am going to watch the hype for a bit. It is hard to move on from something as smooth and still as well supported as our INC.

I am going for the Droid Razr, never have and never will own a Samsung phone. Motorola and HTC have proven themselves in the Signal Strength and Quality category for many many years.

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I am going for the Droid Razr, never have and never will own a Samsung phone. Motorola and HTC have proven themselves in the Signal Strength and Quality category for many many years.
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I own a samsung and am very impressed with it, samsung would be my top choice although I'm open minded to others.
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I'm totally getting a Nexus.
All these low storage errors are starting to piss me off.
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Try the ext data moved mod?

gadzooks64 said:
I'm totally getting a Nexus.
All these low storage errors are starting to piss me off.
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not an issue in any of their newer phones either.
I was completely going for the Rezound before I realized that it's still a mystery if it's going to get an unlocked bootloader or not. That's a deciding factor for me.
The Nexus is a great phone, but again another huge letdown is the SD card slot. I use my phone as my iPod so I need the space for my music collection.
I have no problem waiting with my trusty INC until I can see better how these phones will turn out.
Waiting for the quad core phone that is not even coming to verizon is just insanity. It'll be such a long wait, I'll bet you almost anything that the Q1 Q2 date will be pushed back, not to mention that phone is for AT&T, verizon may not see a quad core phone for another year.

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I was completely going for the Rezound before I realized that it's still a mystery if it's going to get an unlocked bootloader or not. That's a deciding factor for me.
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That's a pretty big issue for me too, and seeing that motorola pointed the finger at Verizon for the locked bootloader on the Droid Razr, I'm not expecting to see any sort of official bootloader unlocking from HTC (even if they wanted to) for the Rezound. Wouldn't be surprised to see something down the road from revolutionary/unrevoked, but I'd like to be able to buy a phone, turn on USB debugging, plug it into my laptop, do a quick 'fastboot oem unlock' and be done with it (nexus).
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The Nexus is a great phone, but again another huge letdown is the SD card slot. I use my phone as my iPod so I need the space for my music collection.
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Google music beta. I've got an invite if you need.

abrin said:
Already polled here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284463
If you hated Sense that much I'm actually pretty surprised you haven't rooted and put on an AOSP ROM. The DINC has had an awesome development community and we've been lucky enough to have a ton of really great ROMs ported for us and we were never tied to waiting for HTC or being stuck with Sense.
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Amen. Your phone is only as smart as you are..
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Me.......,.,.

k_nivesout said:
Google music beta. I've got an invite if you need.
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I had it, used it, uninstalled it. Streaming over 3G isn't that great in spotty coverage, plus I really dislike the app and how it functions, the UI mostly.
The more I think about it though, the more I think 32GB will be enough. I'm leaning towards the Nexus but still going to wait it out. With the prices they're being sold at I don't want to make a choice that I'll end up regretting.

[Q] Should I open my new Galaxy S 2?

So I ordered this phone, it's sitting here in the box...I am coming from the Vibrant...**** gps and now no 911 calls on 2.3/cm7/miui...
Was on monthly contract expired...signed 2yr to get this phone at 333 overnighted+tax...haven't opened it yet..I guess as soon as I do, I actually sign the contract?
Only thing is I'm not too happy about spending money on a phone that has basically only 2 roms available both stock looking GB...I am so used to the beautiful look of miui, not to mention the built in backup that has failed 0 times...its so flawless, anytime I flashed a new miui variant, it took 5 minutes to get all my apps/settings/alarm back to what it was...lockscreen music controls...custom boot animations, status bars...well everything...
Reason I am debating is, when I got the vibrant home a few weeks after it came out there was like a hundred roms available...here..not the case...and I am not writing this as any kind of a knock against the devs that ARE actually working on this phone, so please don't take it that way. I just want to be sure that there are things to come for this phone. The vibrant was a horrible experience as far as updates and Sources from samsung...already I see the ATT ver of this has ICS...again ALREADY t-mo's phone is behind...will this trend continue?
Thoughts?

You don't deserve this phone. Send it back. Now!
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I agree. I think you should just go ahead and ship it to me and ill open it. Sound good?
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Send it back. You don't appreciate the phone or the devs.
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DensoYamaha41 said:
Send it back. You don't appreciate the phone or the devs.
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Did u read the whole post...I specifically said this is no way a knock on the devs that ARE actually dev. for the device...sorry If i came across bad, but I was looking for feedback from someone who has something constructive to say to my specific situation...

Send it back and put the 333 and your time into learning some of this and then you won't have to wait...you could contribute.
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Is this phone going to have all the devs and rom's the vibrant had? Maybe not. A lot of people supported the vibrant and there were not as many phone choices. Android phones have expanded with more choices so the devs are more spread out. Does this phone have good roms? Yes, yes it does. And I bet more to come. Should you open your phone? Probably not since usually every time someone post something like this they turn out to be rom and dev bashers and trolls. Trade it for an amaze if your in doubt. Or appreciate what is here and have fun.
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First of all guyz, lay off.. He's not being a mcdouche he's just really worried!
I was too bro.. I came to this phone from the nexus s and at first I was like.. Wtf?? 4 roms? No ics? This was about 2 weeks ago. After spending some time with beastmod though, there is no more looking back.. It's beautiful, blazing fast.. Battery will rape the galaxy s battery.
Keep in mind that this phone is only a few months old so things will pick up. There is a cm9 in the works and an miui rom as well... Unless you have way to get a galaxy nexus, this is the phone to have.. Do yourself a favor and open that box!

Your contract and buyers remorse period starts when fedex/ups drops it at your door not when you open your phone.

I Actually on tmobile USA you can return the phone within 14 days of getting it
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Actually on tmobile USA you can return the phone within 14 days of getting it
Edit: even if you open it up believe

Coming from the Evo 3D forums to here all I see are POS's and rude people.
But to be honest I would wait until you can get it for cheaper if you really really want it.
$333 is A LOT, they had the whiter version for $99 on contract a day or two ago.
As for the dev for the phone it gets better, when I got the GSM e3d it had nothing....after a month it had a great amount of tweaks and roms

look, if you are on t-mobile you basically have two options unless you want to buy a gsm unlocked phone such as the nexus. Amaze or GSII neither have ICS. We have a cm dev with an alpha cm7 and is working on cm9. Does amaze have that? I prefer sense over touchwiz but use go launcher and don't see much touchwiz anyway. How many roms do you need? I had an evo 4g before this which has a crapload of roms but really you had sense, aosp cm based, miui.
You can wait for the next phone but when will that be? next month? spring? summer?

Mrcojocaru said:
First of all guyz, lay off.. He's not being a mcdouche he's just really worried!
I was too bro.. I came to this phone from the nexus s and at first I was like.. Wtf?? 4 roms? No ics? This was about 2 weeks ago. After spending some time with beastmod though, there is no more looking back.. It's beautiful, blazing fast.. Battery will rape the galaxy s battery.
Keep in mind that this phone is only a few months old so things will pick up. There is a cm9 in the works and an miui rom as well... Unless you have way to get a galaxy nexus, this is the phone to have.. Do yourself a favor and open that box!
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Thx...glad u actually read what I wrote...to say I don't appreciate the development team is bull****...again I've had the vibrant for a long time and have had every rom u can imagine ....so to say I don't appreciate the devs is ignorant...I am aware thing will pick up...I was mainly worried that sources will come out for every carrier but tmo like on the vibrant and ill be stick with non working parts of the phone due to the tmo Samsung practice of doing business....thanks guys ill opener er up...sure ill love it...
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There's actually 4.5 roms here, you have stock(and the updated stock), cm7, juggernaut, beastmod, and a half working miui build.
On the nexus s you have vanilla android, cm7(vanilla android though it's definitely the best vanilla android), ICS(vanilla android) and miui.
Looks fairly even to me...any touchwiz roms on the Nexus S? Where's the real variety?

accordex said:
Thx...glad u actually read what I wrote...to say I don't appreciate the development team is bull****...again I've had the vibrant for a long time and have had every rom u can imagine ....so to say I don't appreciate the devs is ignorant...I am aware thing will pick up...I was mainly worried that sources will come out for every carrier but tmo like on the vibrant and ill be stick with non working parts of the phone due to the tmo Samsung practice of doing business....thanks guys ill opener er up...sure ill love it...
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Yeah there are some drama dudes in here for sure! I understand your concerns.. But I'm not aware of any phones with a better combination of good support and hardware Besides that blasted nexus.. Don't know why it's only on Vaerizon.
Btw, I noticed you live in kent.. Is that kent, wa?

You should leave it in the box until it becomes valueless

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There's actually 4.5 roms here, you have stock(and the updated stock), cm7, juggernaut, beastmod, and a half working miui build.
On the nexus s you have vanilla android, cm7(vanilla android though it's definitely the best vanilla android), ICS(vanilla android) and miui.
Looks fairly even to me...any touchwiz roms on the Nexus S? Where's the real variety?
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I just checked and they have almost 10 just on the first page. They have ics and a full miui rom.. So that's hardly even

Mrcojocaru said:
Yeah there are some drama dudes in here for sure! I understand your concerns.. But I'm not aware of any phones with a better combination of good support and hardware Besides that blasted nexus.. Don't know why it's only on Vaerizon.
Btw, I noticed you live in kent.. Is that kent, wa?
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Yup. There are some "drama " dudes. Like the OP.
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Well, I think you should return it, i wish i could return mine ( bought a month ago, $570)
for monthly4g $30 plan. First because the screen and lines really piss me off, and i think me buying a vibrant would of have been a better choice and upgrading my pc with the rest of the money. I'm 15 so $570 was alot of savings. If you work i guess buying it off contract and getting monthly4g wouldnt be much a loss as you would have no contract.
Also, the roms here piss me off to, and accessories available and how the colors, build quality is higher on my old $200 prepaid phone.
Edit: Also, coming from the Optimus V roms, I had alot more roms and even miui on there, just stock upgraded here.

Hey, guys. He was looking for opinions, not a lynch mob. Stop going on the offensive because some people have the gall to give a little criticism toward the phone you have - it makes the community seem worse in everyone else's eye. This isn't 4chan, and there's no need for such rude behavior.

Sense on the Nitro

Hey guys! I just picked up my Nitro last night and so far I love it, at least the device itself. Thing is, I love the Sense 3.0 UI on the Vivid. Is there any way to port the complete HTC UI over to the Nitro to completely replace the Nitro UI? Maybe I will ultimately switch over to the HTC if I can't port the UI, but the LG device is superior in so many ways I thought I'd see if it is possible.
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It's probably possible, unfortunately we still struggling with CWM recovery to port in, once that's done, then hopefully we get some custom roms, not until then.

This is an awesome phone...i just hope some talented devs take an interest. If you're one of them, [email protected], thanks! Thanks for the response!
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What I really want is their weather screen that appears when u wake the phone up. I wish there's an app for it.

Beautiful widgets has sense looking widgets and weather effects, free download on Getjar I think.
Sense isn't going to be on this phone, unless someone is really dedicated to spending some time on something that would not be very popular. Majority of people want more stock Android.
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@flyguy74: You never know, i have seen things like this pop up before. someone might have/get a real hard on for it.
@Made2Last: ya might want to be a little more generic... try "Sense probably isn't going to be on this phone, unless someone is really dedicated to spending some time on something that might not be very popular. IMHO, Majority of people want more stock Android.
from the way you posted it, you came across as the definitive standard for everyone's opinon and shot the whole idea down. Just providing constructive criticism mate, not starting a flame war!

I don't understand why people don't like Sense. IMO it's the most beautiful interface on Android platform.

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I don't understand why people don't like Sense. IMO it's the most beautiful interface on Android platform.
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Played with stock Ice Cream Sandwich yet?
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Made2Last said:
Played with stock Ice Cream Sandwich yet?
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No, I haven't, but what I've seen so far - light blue on black, aka "tron-like" - is not my cup of tea either.

Made2Last said:
Screw you!
If you want Sense you should buy an HTC phone. If HTC doesn't have a phone you like, wait a few months and chances are one will be available lol
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I am not really a fan of HTC phones. Sure the metal shells and all that is fine, but when you put a phone in metal and drop it you will break your phone everytime. Metal bends once and doesn't flex back, but plastic has more give and recovers easier.
Not to mention out of the three LTE devices right now for ATT, the Vivid is the worst. Heaviest, smallest battery, bulkiest, and it doesn't even fit the "HTC" style.
But that is my opinion.

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I don't understand why people don't like Sense. IMO it's the most beautiful interface on Android platform.
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I had an Inspire and the first thing I wanted to do was remove Sense. The functionality is nice and it looks ok, but my main problems with it are that it takes a lot of memory and with Sense (or any manufacturer customization) it changes the way certain parts of the interface look and ultimately limits your ability to customize. I think all of the manufacturers should have a way to disable their interface. That way if you like it you can use it and if you don't you can turn it off. People wouldn't be in such a hurry to install custom roms if you could.

Don't worry. If you can't fully go to HTC Sense, there are a few good HTC phones on AT&T. If you ask me, I had the Nitro for a few days and didn't enjoy it, I've got CWM successfully ported to it and made a Custom ROM.
The phone gets old after you learn there's not much you can do with it.
Its a piece of crap to me and has no potential of staying alive. But of you decide you want an AWESOME LG phone, come join us at the Thrill. We soon will have 2 ICS ROMs on our way........
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flyguy74 said:
Hey guys! I just picked up my Nitro last night and so far I love it, at least the device itself. Thing is, I love the Sense 3.0 UI on the Vivid. Is there any way to port the complete HTC UI over to the Nitro to completely replace the Nitro UI? Maybe I will ultimately switch over to the HTC if I can't port the UI, but the LG device is superior in so many ways I thought I'd see if it is possible.
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rydeN- said:
Don't worry. If you can't fully go to HTC Sense, there are a few good HTC phones on AT&T. If you ask me, I had the Nitro for a few days and didn't enjoy it, I've got CWM successfully ported to it and made a Custom ROM.
The phone gets old after you learn there's not much you can do with it.
Its a piece of crap to me and has no potential of staying alive. But of you decide you want an AWESOME LG phone, come join us at the Thrill. We soon will have 2 ICS ROMs on our way........
Consider it
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Its funny that you mention that you ported CWM and also created a custom ROM for the Nitro since you have ignored all of our requests and PMs to share the knowledge of how to port CWM to our phones. Are you willing to share your work?

rydeN- said:
Don't worry. If you can't fully go to HTC Sense, there are a few good HTC phones on AT&T. If you ask me, I had the Nitro for a few days and didn't enjoy it, I've got CWM successfully ported to it and made a Custom ROM.
The phone gets old after you learn there's not much you can do with it.
Its a piece of crap to me and has no potential of staying alive. But of you decide you want an AWESOME LG phone, come join us at the Thrill. We soon will have 2 ICS ROMs on our way........
Consider it
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Oh really, a working CWM AND a custom ROM Eh? So you so special I see, having something nobody else can achieve. Either you're a Guru of some sort or you're just an awful liar. If you did achieve them, show us the proof, but I think I know what your answer will be, "Didn't take any screenshots or pictures, and now they're all wiped and flashed back to stock since I had to return it".
Oh n btw, weren't you the one who suggested one of the members here to do something in one of the partitions, only to get him bricked? And after that you just disappeared without even trying to help?

dbjungle said:
I had an Inspire and the first thing I wanted to do was remove Sense. The functionality is nice and it looks ok, but my main problems with it are that it takes a lot of memory and with Sense (or any manufacturer customization) it changes the way certain parts of the interface look and ultimately limits your ability to customize.
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I have Inspire as well and after 9 month of heavy usage, installed lots of crap on it, it still runs smooth as brand new. I don't know why memory usage is so important for you, but I never ever had any problem with it nor ever it ran out of memory... The only reason I don't use it, is because no front camera (well and crappy back camera too), weak processor.
I can't comment on customization, cause I'm 100% satisfied with default look/settings...
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@rydeN- I installed Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on Nitro and now playing Crysis 2
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Oh n btw, weren't you the one who suggested one of the members here to do something in one of the partitions, only to get him bricked? And after that you just disappeared without even trying to help?
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I believe after someone attempted follow his suggestions and bricked their phone he said that he warned everyone not to do that, and according to him nobody listened to him, resulting the brick...

pokechapp said:
I am not really a fan of HTC phones. Sure the metal shells and all that is fine, but when you put a phone in metal and drop it you will break your phone everytime. Metal bends once and doesn't flex back, but plastic has more give and recovers easier.
Not to mention out of the three LTE devices right now for ATT, the Vivid is the worst. Heaviest, smallest battery, bulkiest, and it doesn't even fit the "HTC" style.
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1. Like a few grams heavier makes that much of a difference, go to the gym sometime -.-
2. The battery life is amazing and lasts all day with moderate-heavy usage.
3. Have you seen the EVO 4G? This phone looks very similar but much better.
Those are my opinions, you should atleast the the phone, it speaks for itself.
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I love my Inspire / Desire HD. I don't have a problem with Sense as a launcher as much as I have a problem with the customized user interface. Large status bar, separate e-mail program and calendar etc. I think plain Android has some pretty good solutions for all of this. I think anything that can be easily switched out like the Sense launcher or LG Home launcher is A-OK.
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Coming from an Evo 3D, I can say there are aspects of Sense that I miss. I really miss the Sense 3.0 lockscreen ring, as well as the gallery and phone apps. But those are things that can easily be fixed by third party programs such as Dialer One, Widget Locker, and QuickPic. But I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the UI to come to this phone. It requires massive framework changes to do so, unfortunately.

I'm not saying anything wrong but 1) youi posted in the wrong section and 2) your asking for huge request that take week's and month's when there's only 3active developers in ur section.

moved to general - this isn't development