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Contacts / Edit before dialing a phone number

Hi everyone... I am new to the PPC world... being just recently swatch from my Treo600 to a new XDA2s, I am having a little difficulty getting used to the Microsoft way of doing things in PPC2003... I am just wondering is there anyone who can help me or point me to the right direction where I can get some external program that can help me from going insane... here's my problem... I usually keep a huge contact list with all my customer, supplier, co-worker, family and friends contact all in my PDA... so the usual way for me to make a phone call is to search it from the contact list... but here's my problem, I travel alot with my job and depending on my current location, I have to edit the number in my contact before I dial the number... in my old palm, I can simply edit the number before I dial that number (there's a funtion on my palm that allows you to edit before call... so it allows me to edit the number without physically changing the number in my contact list)... I am just wondering can PPC do that? Or is there any program in PPC that will allow me to do that? As far as I can see... in PPC, as soon as I have search for a contact and then I click on his or her number with my stylist... it will automatically dial... I can not edit it before I dial... the only way I can edit it before I dial is to physically edit the contacts... which is very annoying as I sync my contacts with my exchange server, I don't wanna to have to have all my contact get mess up with different area code and dialling code from different country... anyone know how can I solve this problem? Thanks for your help in advance... I very much appriciate all of your advice in advance... Peter

I think the most straightforwards solution here is to store all of your numbers in the international dialling format; that way, wherever you are, your device will place the call correctly
For example - if I had a contact in Glasgow, UK, it would be stored as +44141xxxxxxx (+44 for UK, 141 for Glasgow and the remaining seven digits as the local number)
In my experience whenever I have been abroad, any calls to any of my stored numbers are placed correctly first time by either my SmartPhone or PPC.
If you're problem is regarding a slightly different issue then please expand on your problem by detailing what you mean by "modifying" your contact before you dial.

My problem is a little bit more complicated I think... I already has most number stored in the international dialing format... but my problem is that, depending on my location, I have to dial a certian set of numbers in front of the phone number to be dial in order for me to save on long distance and roaming... for example, while I am roaming in Mainland China if I want to dial home in Hong Kong with my mobile... normally, I will dial 0085226****88 but that will cost me like USD2 per minute... but if I dial with a prefix of 17909 (hence I will type in: 179090085226****88) then my per minute charge will now be something like USD0.10 per minute... which is a huge saving especially when I make roaming and long distance call all the time... the same thing in Hong Kong, if I dial 1666 before I dial long distance, I will get a much higher savings over regular long distance... my problem is that I can not possibly store all of these information for all the locations that I am going to be in, each places that I am going to be in, have a different sets of number... so is there any intellegent way to add additional numbers in front of the number stored in the contacts before it is being dialed in pocket pc? I know on my old palm... I can solve this problem in two ways... 1) I can set a certain dialing prefix before the system dial any number (normally I leave that blank, as I prefer edit before dial function)... I can use this prefix function but it will require me to change the prefix when I am at a different location but it is a workable solutions... is there something like that in PPC? 2) The second way to solve this was the edit before dialing function on the palm... I just click on the number, it allows me to edit the number temporary before it is automatically paste onto the phone software and before the phone dials it...
Anyway, I know this is very complicated and it is a very rare issues thats probably just affecting me or a very small number of users... but it will be great if there's some simple solutions to this... but I think this problem is mainly due to the lack of flexiblilty in the contact list rather then the function of the phone itself! :O) Anyway, thank you very much for your help and suggestions again... very much appriciate it :O) Peter

Try if this works
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Can you please post the link again? It doesn't work :O) Thanks for your help :O) What kind of program is it? :O)

here's the link
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you got it all wrong
... if you ask me: your approach is wrong. Here are the basics. Windows XP, for instance and Outlook, that is the source of the contacts (and phone numbers and other details that are entered), stores phone numbers in this 'international' format:
country code (MS has a list of countries and codes of its own)
are code (another, separate field) and
number
If you respect the fields provided by Outlook then you get a number generated by Outlook that looks like this:
+381 (064) 6185250
THIS is the 'correct' international format recognised by Microsoft Phone Dialer (well not actually MS but Active Voice, but that is a completely different issue)
My point is that +448704364673 is NOT a correct international phormat, because MS cannot differentiate between the international country code and long distance (area code) and therefore the phone dialer cannot parse the numbers correctly.
NOW, how to get the system to know WHERE you are and should it use the area code when dialing or you are in the area your friend is, or you want to call a toll free number that is in 'another' area, or you are dialing a client abroad etc. Well, there is the 'Dialing Rules' settings! THERE you create a profile (home, office, abroad etc.) and provide the area code for the dialer to differentiate...
This is all well with the Windows XP/Outlook 2002+ I know well, BUT when it comes to PPC... sorry, I have the same problem...>
FACTS:
fact no. 1: Outlook separates phone numbers in groups of>
country code
long distance code (area code)
number
fact no. 2: phone numbers entered this way are stored in a format>
+381 (064) 6185250
fact no. 2: Microsoft Phone Dialer recognises this number and dials correctly
via a voice modem... (headset or speaker/mike required)
Question: what hapens when contacts entered this way into Outlook are sunchronized with the
Pocket PC (Windows Mobile 5.0)?
Answer : all contact's numbers are entered into the Contacts list in the 'correct' format.
(the same format with the bracket, as is noted in PC Outlook)
My findings: the problem arrises when you use your mobile capable Pocket PC
(i.e. the super cool Qtek 9000) and try to dial someone on to his mobile or office phone that are on another
area code...
the Pocket PC, or Windows Mobile 'Phone dialer' dials EXACTLY
as the number is entered in the above mentioned format
(the mobile operator recognises the + at the beggining of the number, but
does not understand the spaces and the brackets!!! and offcourse
the mobile operator returns an error voice message that a wrong number has been dialed!
What am I to do?
Can I find/download/install a proper phone dialer (i.e. MS Phone Dialer) that comes with Windows?
Phone Dialer 1.5
Developed for Microsoft by Active Voice
http://www.activevoice.com/dialer
bottom line is that CISCO systems aquired this Phone Dialer in 2001 and Active Voice discontinued developing/supporting whit app. (link on the Active Voice site is outdated and no support on MS site, as well)
(please do not post solutions as: "you should reformat your number entries etc. because I have 800+ contacts and counting...)
P.S. what I gathered is that this is not device related it is just OS and app related. I had the same problem with my previous Nokia phone... (I did not solve. Actually I thought I will solve with this device...)
I've set the Dialing Rules with my country code and area code (Mobile etc.) So, I don't have a clue what am I doung wrong

[APP] groove ip google VOIP with sprint number!!

Hey guys I’ve been looking for a good VoIP caller for my phone that uses my sprint number for a while now, and I finally found one and I would like to share it with everyone
It’s called groove ip
click up ^^ here for the market link
It is a paid app, I found it on the market and I believe it wasn’t any more than 5 dollars.
set up:
I integrated Google voice on my account keeping my sprint number
I then downloaded Google voice on my phone and set it all up.
Then I downloaded groove ip and signed in.
you have options on when to use groove ip.
i have it auto start and set to ask when placing a call.
there is no battery drain when on standby.
obviously it uses some battery when placing or receiving calls
ive used it for a few days now, and i love it.
texts also work with the google voice app
Now you can use my phone even if you don’t have service as long as there is wifi !!

Yeah I like , since it allows you to use either your google voice or sprint number
I use my google choice to hand out to people to save my incoming minutes, and telemarketers lol

Ive had Groove Ip for a while and works great. I just switched back to Sprint but when i tried integrating my sprint number with google voice text messages would only go to the GV app and not directly to the phone. Or in some cases it would go to both, Calling worked fine.

dabezt1 said:
Ive had Groove Ip for a while and works great. I just switched back to Sprint but when i tried integrating my sprint number with google voice text messages would only go to the GV app and not directly to the phone. Or in some cases it would go to both, Calling worked fine.
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You can change that setting in google voice settings from your browser. Log into google voice, click the gear in the top right corner, click voice settings. Then you just need to check the box under your GV integrated number that says "Receive text messages on this phone"

I like my google number better then my sprint number. I was able to get a local number; xxx-xxx-name, name being my first name.
Thumbs up for GrooveIP, been using it for a while.

Groove IP totally disappeared from Market w/my new$5!
Groove IP totally disappeared from the face of the Earth today(Android Market). I just paid $4.99 for the App two days ago and there gone. I know there not a fly by night app cause I have been hearing good things bout since my WinMo days. Is this want they do when they're updating the App? Is this normal or has me and many other been hood-winked??

[Q] Good texting app?

Are there any good SMS/texting apps for kindle fire/android that DON'T require the use of a cell number? I've only found one so far called Text+ in the kindle store. It works by assigning your account with a random phone number. Works pretty good for sending/receiving plain text from cell phones. But it doesn't allow you to choose what area code your number comes from, and it doesn't handle pics/video very well at all.
My KF is rooted now and about to have the google apps installed, so I was just wondering if there was a good app out there that doesn't require using your cellphone number.

Google Voice can do this for you. You will probably need to give Google Voice a phone or cell number to begin with, but you can remove that number after you are done setting it up. All of your texts will be coming from a phone number, but it will be the new Google Voice number that you sign up for. I always text from my computer or tablet using Google Voice.

tedr108 said:
Google Voice can do this for you.
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Nice thx, I'll check it out!

Text+ should let you change your area code just fine. Just use your one free number change.

RazorChrist said:
Are there any good SMS/texting apps for kindle fire/android that DON'T require the use of a cell number? I've only found one so far called Text+ in the kindle store. It works by assigning your account with a random phone number. Works pretty good for sending/receiving plain text from cell phones. But it doesn't allow you to choose what area code your number comes from, and it doesn't handle pics/video very well at all.
My KF is rooted now and about to have the google apps installed, so I was just wondering if there was a good app out there that doesn't require using your cellphone number.
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I've been using Evernote. It let's you read your notes from any device and uses Google voice, but I haven't tried that yet. More than I need but seems to work ok so far.

tedr108 said:
Google Voice can do this for you. You will probably need to give Google Voice a phone or cell number to begin with, but you can remove that number after you are done setting it up. All of your texts will be coming from a phone number, but it will be the new Google Voice number that you sign up for. I always text from my computer or tablet using Google Voice.
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GOOGLE voice indirectly charges your phone number per text if you have a limited text plan such as 200 texts per month on your cell plan. Each google text counts as one because it runs it through your data plan on your cell phone, provided that's the number you used.

iphonedownload said:
GOOGLE voice indirectly charges your phone number per text if you have a limited text plan such as 200 texts per month on your cell plan. Each google text counts as one because it runs it through your data plan on your cell phone, provided that's the number you used.
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So what does it do if you don't use a cell number to set it up with? Just not allow the text?

Track/Trace Google Server Number

Hey Everyone,
I know a lot of you have the issue with Google voice not showing the correct number. However my request is slightly different. I live in Nova Scotia. and set up google voice while in the states last month. I used it quite a bit while I was down there. Since being home I have attempted to use it, and it does connect find, have my local number verified and everything. When I got my bill last month the numbers were all routed via a toronto number. So i have added that to my "Fav10"
Do you know if there is any app/way to have the number that google voice connects to "show" on my phone? It appears that some Dialers do show this number however mine currently doesn't.
I just want to be able to see this so I can ensure I don't get any long distance charges when I use google voice
Any suggestions you may have would be great.
Thanks

[Q] Use of Google Voice outside the US

Hi everyone,
I just activated my Google Voice account using a SIP and a local US number. However I can't seem to find any use for it. Could anyone tell me what uses GV has outside the US. It didn't let me use my Australian mobile number and I can't make calls to local numbers. The only thing I've found is that if I call the local US number it rings my phone. Has anyone else had any success activating their non US numbers? Any other use case scenarios you could suggest for my 'crippled' account?