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I'm still new to this device. I'm having issues figuring out which kernels go to which version of GB and ICS.
Which Kernels will work on EL29 only?
Which ones will work on ICS and GB (EL29)
Why are kernels and Recovery mixed together? Why not make it simple to understand and locate?
EL29 Kernel ver 1.3.3 GB only - Example. Now I know I can't use this on ICS, only version EL29 of GB. Oh and it's a Kernel.
Not a recoveryIcsv13.3..3.3kerneldotninerwtfz0rz.tar.zip. That makes it confusing.
Anyone able to offer any clarity or an decoder ring so that I may understand this better?
If want to try a new kernel for EL29 GB, I can't because I have not farking clue if I'm getting one with a recovery, if it's GB or ICS only etc.
If I want to try an ICS kernel, but use it on GB, I'm lost because I thought they weren't compatible but people are apparently doing it.
Also, recoveries. "Don't use hitman" seems to be the theme. Along with Touch CWM being another issue.
Rogue Recovery is hitman? or hitman is hitman?
While this phone is superior to the Evo3D, at least the development wasn't a greek VCR manual from 1928.
Zzzz
sounds like you need to do a lot more reading before you mess with this phone.
This Forum was always for Developers, not for Newbies, so its organized with that in mind..
there are other forums you may want to visit as well, where they cater more to novices; or, just do the smart thing, and don't mess with your electronic devices unless you are 99.99% sure you know what you are doing
Read and read and then read some more.....Samsung puts recovery in kernel nothing we can do about that ....most kernels will have a recovery in them ..these leaks are different right now...they are using ics 3.0 kernels on ics but not on GB ....the people you have seen are taking the radio fb21 etc .... Read and be safe don't be a brick
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wase4711 said:
sounds like you need to do a lot more reading before you mess with this phone.
This Forum was always for Developers, not for Newbies, so its organized with that in mind..
there are other forums you may want to visit as well, where they cater more to novices; or, just do the smart thing, and don't mess with your electronic devices unless you are 99.99% sure you know what you are doing
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+1 This is a dev website. Go over to Android central or rootzwiki if you have questions like this...and ask for Bubby (sorry i couldn't resist...lol)
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You all basically told me I'm dumb.
lol. k.
not at all, man...we've all been where you are at, and have realized that until we had the knowledge to be able to tweak our phones properly, we had to read, learn, and, read some more.
Isn't it better to know this stuff BEFORE you do something to break your phone?
I mean, you wouldn't want a surgeon to operate on you until he was sure he knew what he was doing, would you?
Its no different with this stuff; you'll be much happier if you build your knowledge about this thing before you go messing with it.
Its no reflection of your intelligence, its just a statement of fact about your current abilities as they pertain to this phone..
You may be a Mensa for all we know!!
If you are going to respond to a post already, answer the fing questions. You are already putting the effort in of typing. This is the best site for this **** don't tell him to go somewhere where there more ppl like him who do not know what hey are talking about. Always with this elitist sh*t.
well, since you seem to be a know it all, why don't YOU answer them?
at what point during my post did I indicate I know it all?
All the stock and stock repacked GB kernels can be mix/matched between the different stock GB releases. They will NOT boot for an ICS ROM.
All the stock and stock repacked ICS kernels can be mix/matched between the different stock ICS releases. They will NOT boot for a GB ROM.
By "work" I mean they boot and data works. Beyond that, you'd have to experiment to see if what you care about works to your expectations. In general things will work, but I obviously don't test everything, and the combination Samsung/Sprint tests is matched kernels and ROMs.
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If you are going to respond to a post already, answer the fing questions. You are already putting the effort in of typing. This is the best site for this **** don't tell him to go somewhere where there more ppl like him who do not know what hey are talking about. Always with this elitist sh*t.
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at what point during my post did I indicate I know it all?
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Your smart ass reply above is where..
and, this site is NOT for noobies to break in their teeth on development
I don't care if you agree or not; if you feel you want to answer his questions, then do itl otherwise STFU..
I'm buying this phone today. Coming from a NS4G. Now, I'm no noob when it comes to rooting/flashing/modding...however...the development for this device and the way you have to go about doing things with it are waaaaaay different. And I will agree with OP: it is confusing reading through some of this stuff, even for people with experience. But I also agree with some of the others: don't root or go beyond that until you have a good understanding of what you are doing.
As XDA has been very good to me I can say that the Nexus crowd is way more helpful to noobs, apparently.
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HareyCarey said:
I'm buying this phone today. Coming from a NS4G. Now, I'm no noob when it comes to rooting/flashing/modding...however...the development for this device and the way you have to go about doing things with it are waaaaaay different. And I will agree with OP: it is confusing reading through some of this stuff, even for people with experience. But I also agree with some of the others: don't root or go beyond that until you have a good understanding of what you are doing.
As XDA has been very good to me I can say that the Nexus crowd is way more helpful to noobs, apparently.
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its really only different if you are flashing LEAKED, non official roms..
The problem is that too many noobs with no idea what they are doing, don't want to spend anytime learning what they are doing, and hear about these ics roms, and just gotta have them..Then, they start flashing crap that they have no idea about, brick their phones, they post stuff all over the place, begging for someone to rescue them RIGHT NOW...
Its like getting behind the wheel of a car, with out taking drivers ed, or practicing, only bad things are going to happen if you do that..
There are tons of helpful folks here, with hundreds of "thanks", and thousands of posts, so obviously, there is a ton of cooperation and help going on here..
It just gets old, really fast, when 20 people ask the same question about a leaked, not even beta rom; and, to make it worse, the answer is usually a few posts ahead of theirs, or in the OP..
Too many people feel this sense of entitlement here lately, and, for those of us who are always helping, always offering our assistance, it gets pretty old sometimes..
Obviously, you know what YOU are doing, and, you at least took the time to get a basic understanding of your phone..plus, you've obviously read through these threads, and realize that it is a bit different to flash stuff on this phone.
Thats more than quite a few of the noobs here have taken the time to do..
Some people rely on others before they rely on their selves. That isn't always so bad, but I know it gets old. I probably won't mess with my Galaxy until I find exactly the ROM I want with everything working and I understand Odin a little better...the NS4G was sooooo simple...it's like they were begging you to root it. It was like get fastboot and adb then type a few things and boom, it's done. This is a bit more complicated and there isn't just a recovery you flash and leave on your phone to flash everything else(as far as I know)
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HareyCarey said:
Some people rely on others before they rely on their selves. That isn't always so bad, but I know it gets old. I probably won't mess with my Galaxy until I find exactly the ROM I want with everything working and I understand Odin a little better...the NS4G was sooooo simple...it's like they were begging you to root it. It was like get fastboot and adb then type a few things and boom, it's done. This is a bit more complicated and there isn't just a recovery you flash and leave on your phone to flash everything else(as far as I know)
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well, actually there is; there are actually 2 different ones, depending if you are using a "released, el29" type of rom, or one of the "leaked" ICS type roms..
The conventional roms all have recoveries baked into them, so its simple to go into recovery, and flash other stuff
the ICS leaks are different than that, and can be a pain to flash back and forth
My friends with Nexus phones all agree with you on how much easier it is to flash stuff on their phones; I guess its all in what you get used to!
You'll love this phone, that I guarantee you!
wase4711 said:
Your smart ass reply above is where..
and, this site is NOT for noobies to break in their teeth on development
I don't care if you agree or not; if you feel you want to answer his questions, then do itl otherwise STFU..
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I believe you started with the smart ass remarks to the op.
wase4711 said:
STFU..
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take your own advice if you have nothing to contribute.
PS. This site is also not for TOOLS...explain yourself!
good luck getting help from anyone here,
adding you to my douchebag list...
VoX_XDA said:
I'm still new to this device. I'm having issues figuring out which kernels go to which version of GB and ICS.
Which Kernels will work on EL29 only?
Which ones will work on ICS and GB (EL29)
Why are kernels and Recovery mixed together? Why not make it simple to understand and locate?
EL29 Kernel ver 1.3.3 GB only - Example. Now I know I can't use this on ICS, only version EL29 of GB. Oh and it's a Kernel.
Not a recoveryIcsv13.3..3.3kerneldotninerwtfz0rz.tar.zip. That makes it confusing.
Anyone able to offer any clarity or an decoder ring so that I may understand this better?
If want to try a new kernel for EL29 GB, I can't because I have not farking clue if I'm getting one with a recovery, if it's GB or ICS only etc.
If I want to try an ICS kernel, but use it on GB, I'm lost because I thought they weren't compatible but people are apparently doing it.
Also, recoveries. "Don't use hitman" seems to be the theme. Along with Touch CWM being another issue.
Rogue Recovery is hitman? or hitman is hitman?
While this phone is superior to the Evo3D, at least the development wasn't a greek VCR manual from 1928.
Zzzz
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sfhub said:
All the stock and stock repacked GB kernels can be mix/matched between the different stock GB releases. They will NOT boot for an ICS ROM.
All the stock and stock repacked ICS kernels can be mix/matched between the different stock ICS releases. They will NOT boot for a GB ROM.
By "work" I mean they boot and data works. Beyond that, you'd have to experiment to see if what you care about works to your expectations. In general things will work, but I obviously don't test everything, and the combination Samsung/Sprint tests is matched kernels and ROMs.
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Rogue Recovery is the recovery made and used by Team Rogue. Hitman Kernel is a kernel that Team Rogue put out with CWM Touch. That kernel is perfectly fine to use with any GB rom. The big issue is using Rom Manager and flashing a recovery from there, thats a big nono unless you like bricks.
Most kernel threads (i believe all of them actually) state wether they are Gingerbread or Ice Cream Sandwich, either in the title or within the first 3 posts.
Like everyone says, read. True true read and you'll learn but how much he learn if all he reads is "READ NOOB"? I dont know everything but if you have questions feel free to pm me and I'll try to help you as best I can.
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steindog99 said:
+1 This is a dev website. Go over to Android central or rootzwiki if you have questions like this...and ask for Bubby (sorry i couldn't resist...lol)
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This is a community website, you don't have to be a dev to be on here or to mod your phone. How many members actually contribute by developing? 8%? That being said, you really do have to put in the reading/learning time. When you know what you're doing then you can ask specific questions for help that can be answered. Just my 2cents
Im just gonna say even for experienced modders/devs who have been doing this for a while (4+ years for me) this phone is quite confusing at first, i started hacking palm, treo family then pre, then moved to android with an intercrap i mean intercept, then the og evo, and now the et4g and the first day i was in this forum i was scratching my head like a lost kid looking at a chinese subway map. the setup of this phone in particular and the "codenames" are wayyyyyy different than the evo so i was lost for a few hours til i read thru a few ops and familiarized myself with all the new terms, but then again i have years of experince with phone modding and 2 decades experience with linux and windows coding and it was still like my first day of latin class with this phone having had a samsung device previously(intercept) did help with odin and such as it was similar to louziffers hacked swupdater for the intercept but if i was coming strictly from the evo i think id still be lost trying to root this phone
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I am very new to the concept of rooting and flashing ROMS. Haven't flashed any kernels yet (confused about that). I flashed a couple of Calkulin's ROMs on my Epic 4G Touch and the notifications are being troublesome. I know that E4GT v1.0 is not stable. Is there ANY other ROM that is perfectly stable and offers wifi tethering (ICS ROM preferred).
Thanks a bunch!
This question was so important you had to ask it twice? Anyway, there is a thread like this everyday. Same answer for all.... It's user preference. Just because I like something doesn't mean you will
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tkemack said:
This question was so important you had to ask it twice? Anyway, there is a thread like this everyday. Same answer for all.... It's user preference. Just because I like something doesn't mean you will
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It'd get deleted from General section (sorry I am new), which is why I reposted it here.
I really don't care about the cosmetics. The only thing I want is all the features working properly, and have wifi tethering and good battery life. Any ROMs that do these?
Thanks!
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It'd get deleted from General section (sorry I am new), which is why I reposted it here.
I really don't care about the cosmetics. The only thing I want is all the features working properly, and have wifi tethering and good battery life. Any ROMs that do these?
Thanks!
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Well most likely your gonna wanna stay away from ICS builds as it's not official and other experience different battery life, but if you want it I suggest mijjz ICS Blend, he keeps it supported greatly. As for a GB rom I suggest either calkulins e4gt rom or blazer rom 4.0 (themed like ics). Both are extremely stable, and calkulins rom includes a battery saver script for great batter life.
dshah37 said:
It'd get deleted from General section (sorry I am new), which is why I reposted it here.
I really don't care about the cosmetics. The only thing I want is all the features working properly, and have wifi tethering and good battery life. Any ROMs that do these?
Thanks!
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If you want ALL features working, you will need to go with a stock rom, and it wont be ICS cause there isnt an official release (notifications issue is an ICS issue, not the custom rom's).
If you want wifi tethering, stock wont work for you. So I would recommend you look at the gingerbread roms. Caulkin's el29 is a good one. Not sure it has tethering though.
There are apps you can buy that will get you tethering, so maybe stock gingerbread + a paid app will meet your needs.
Hope that helps.
dshah37 said:
I am very new to the concept of rooting and flashing ROMS. Haven't flashed any kernels yet (confused about that). I flashed a couple of Calkulin's ROMs on my Epic 4G Touch and the notifications are being troublesome. I know that E4GT v1.0 is not stable. Is there ANY other ROM that is perfectly stable and offers wifi tethering (ICS ROM preferred).
Thanks a bunch!
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I read:
"very new to the concept of rooting and flashing ROMS"
and
"Haven't flashed any kernels yet (confused about that)"
And think "You should Not Be Flashing ANYthing ICS based, at All!"
You could be headed straight to hardbrickland, one way ticket.
Like mentioned in the two previous posts, I would stay away from anything ICS based right now, not only because they have a few issues, at best, but mostly because of the bricks people are getting when playing around with them while not readoing direction Very Carefully and not being familiar with flashing techniques on this phone. If you are going to play with them, be Very Familiar with ODIN and sfhubs OCs, Know Your Kernals, Read Every Damn Thing about the restore process, watch all of QBKing's videos on flashing/restoring re: the ICS stuff, read the sticky thread in general "How To Not Brick our E4GT"...
Like many people have mentioned throughout the threads recent, ICS is nice, but it being unstable many people, even experienced flashoholics, are returning to GB (read as: EL29 stock restore by sfhub) for stability until an official release.
kingdazy said:
I read:
"very new to the concept of rooting and flashing ROMS"
and
"Haven't flashed any kernels yet (confused about that)"
And think "You should Not Be Flashing ANYthing ICS based, at All!"
You could be headed straight to hardbrickland, one way ticket.
Like mentioned in the two previous posts, I would stay away from anything ICS based right now, not only because they have a few issues, at best, but mostly because of the bricks people are getting when playing around with them while not readoing direction Very Carefully and not being familiar with flashing techniques on this phone. If you are going to play with them, be Very Familiar with ODIN and sfhubs OCs, Know Your Kernals, Read Every Damn Thing about the restore process, watch all of QBKing's videos on flashing/restoring re: the ICS stuff, read the sticky thread in general "How To Not Brick our E4GT"...
Like many people have mentioned throughout the threads recent, ICS is nice, but it being unstable many people, even experienced flashoholics, are returning to GB (read as: EL29 stock restore by sfhub) for stability until an official release.
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Will get back to GB. THANKS A LOT for your help bro.
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Will get back to GB. THANKS A LOT for your help bro.
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Good choice Odin back to stock and in the future try and not ask the same questions countless others have asked at least be original and always do your homework before flashing.... This is serious business up in herrrre....LOL
Rookies Beware - good luck guy
Yup, if you need help read my guide for flashing to and from ics to gb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
Loving Calkulin's E4GT 2 v1.2 ICS FC18 Tweaked - give it a shot. has built in hotspot hack and looks great.
Without a doubt aokp .....freaking pink unicorns beeches
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Epix4G said:
Without a doubt aokp .....freaking pink unicorns beeches
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Ha ha gotta love it, AOKP is tits
I am using venum ice ICS and I really like it.
whats up
Sorry to jump in. Using wicked sensation rom it is awesome. It real stable everything works
Great. If you havent tried it you really should.
Really can't believe you asked this all of them are the best
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Can't go wrong with wicked sensations or Blu Kuban both my favorite ROM's for the epic touch.
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It's like asking "what is the best beer?"
Look at the thread rating, read the comments for bugs and flash several till you find one that meets your needs.
But man... you better do a lot of reading first and you would see how these threads are frowned upon.
Hello, everyone!
I'm getting my ET4G tomorrow. I have been reading up so I can be familiar with the device.
I've had an Epic 4g and I loved the development for it. Since then I have had Evo 4g, Evo 3D, and the photon. The development in all of them weren't as fluid as my good ol' Samsung.
So I'm back for round two with the ET.
I am trying to get familiar with everything, so if you could point me towards important/interesting threads, that would be great.
I mostly want to know what is going on with ICS
There are so many ICS roms that I'm lost (Photon only has 1 CM9 port)
Is there anywhere that I can read the difference between the leaks and the cm9 port, which are best, the bugs.
So yeah, looking forward to some good reading suggestions, I will keep browsing.
Just wanted to say hi, I recognize you from some of the many xda communities I have been apart of. Looking forward to some of the roms from the developers I knew and loved lol.
Thank you for reading, and post or send me a PM if you'd like.
Fortunately for you everything works like it did on the Epic with Odin, etc. If you choose to flash any of the ICS leak ROMs please read up because the recovery isn't 100% yet and you can brick if you don't take the safe route. Just remember that Odin is your best friend like it was on the Epic but even that can't rescue you if you get the data partition error from ICS recoveries. Feel free to PM me with any questions you have
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JohnCorleone said:
Fortunately for you everything works like it did on the Epic with Odin, etc. If you choose to flash any of the ICS leak ROMs please read up because the recovery isn't 100% yet and you can brick if you don't take the safe route. Just remember that Odin is your best friend like it was on the Epic but even that can't rescue you if you get the data partition error from ICS recoveries. Feel free to PM me with any questions you have
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I used to have that issue on my epic. But it was always fixable (usually it was because I used the samsung usb) until one day when it just went black and never came back lol
MIJJz's "the goodness" rom is amazing. Just be careful of the recovery issue using ICS rom's. I had to download mobile odin today just to be safe.
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I used to have that issue on my epic. But it was always fixable (usually it was because I used the samsung usb) until one day when it just went black and never came back lol
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One big difference I have noticed is that modems are flashable from recovery. Once you are up and running on ICS you can easily switch between modems and kernels. The dicey part is going from ICS back to GB or going from one ICS ROM to another. The only guaranteed safe route is to Odin or sfhub one click back to Gingerbread and go from there. All of the Gingerbread ROMs are totally dialed in. You may have more of an adventure finding the right ICS ROM right now because everything is so new
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Welcome to a great phone, and a smallish, but quickly growing, tightknit community here! We have a set of Great devs, and (mostly) mature, helpful members, and all very excited about where things are headed for this device.
You've already been answered by one of our most active members, super helpful guy, very knowledgeable.
I would get to know a few threads here, since you are likely somewhat familiar with ODIN, and obviously flashing concepts in general.
If you are feeling the ICS bug, read up on recoveries, and JC mentioned, it can be a dicey risk, if done improperly, you can get a permhardbirck: How Not To Brick Your E4GT
Where to keep up on ICS leaks, Samgung ICS testing, etc: ICS for Epic Touch!!! Now on FC24. Sadly, there is no actual "change log", but if you took the time to read that whole mess, you'll get it. And if you search throught the dev sect, you see all the leaks, repackaged by Calk and sfhub, and if you read them through, you can get an idea of current bugs/issues. Although, you'll quickly see that while some bugs seem to be consistent for all, YMMV.
I would highly recommend that you think about upgrading your modem, regardless of what you do with ROM flashing. The LoS issue that was a problem with this phone on release has been fixed, but the newer modems have Great improvements with GPS/aGPS. (for ... most people? for many it's night and day...)
Further, check out qbkings videos, everything you need to know, about everything. ;-)
Good luck!.
Make sfhub and qbking77 ur best friend lol
What he said. Follow qbking77's YouTube how-to videos and you're pretty much guaranteed to never brick your device (I'm certain he's done a review/how-to-install for most, if not all ROMs for this device).
Welcome aboard the crazy train, you're really gonna enjoy the ride.
Congrats on the new phone!
I third the suggestion of getting to know sfhub and qbking as well as Calkulin, Steady Hawkin, agat and others you'll pick up on along the way.
I would suggest staying away from anything ICS until you get more familiar with your E4GT.
well I loved ice on the photon except for not having 4g, and it looks like it is much further along here, I will probably be running pics by the weekend lol, thanks for all the guidance
Don't worry if you have half a clue how to follow directions/flash then you will be ok.
Had a Photon for like a week when it came out. Loved it, but the development for it seemed like it was going NO WHERE lol. This phone is MUCH different.
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Hello friends,
Just upgraded from the evo 4g through Craigslist & going to get the Evo LTE for my often travels to Texas.
I have done a few hours of reading and one thing I can't grasp is what is the dominate rom for our S2s?
I only really want root for backup & wifi hotspot. I would prefer to make sure I have no issues with gps or Bluetooth as well.
[*]What is the most stable setup?
[*]Most curated or updated lovingly?
[*]Any big drawbacks to your suggestion?
I appreciate the knowledge!
@IdeaJason
Gingerbread or ICS?
This should be posted in Q/A, but, that's irreleavnt...
In my opinion, the most stable ROMs are the stock Samsung builds. Stable is the key word. It (the EL29 Gingerbread ROM) is the most widely-available build, installed on thousands of active devices. If there were problems with it, we'd know/the problems would be out there. This is the "official" ROM for the phone.
There are a lot of ROMs for you to play with. Personally, I love all of Calkulin's ROMs, all extremely speedy and robust. Stable as well.
I currently have the FE07 ICS ROM, but that's because I'm an Android nerd. It has it's bugs, but it's an official Samsung leak.
All in all, just play it safe. Obviously, things like CM9 or Codename Android are still in Alpha builds, so they are not what you're looking for.
Sfhub uploads the One-Click ROM/Modem/Kernel install files - these kick ass. He has them for all builds.
Sorry if this post was a little vague, I'm in a hurry to work.
There's no such thing as a dominant rom for any popular device here on xda, because there are so many awesome developers making stuff for it. Also, development now is strong enough that bluetooth and gps are working on pretty much any rom unless otherwise stated. General rule of thumb to finding popular/updated roms is to look at when the thread for the rom was started, how many views/replies has been made in the thread, and when the rom was last updated. After that, you can determine for yourself.
I agree there is no dominiate rom. Each rom has its selling points. All in All all roms we have are awesome. This kind of thread will only lead to flaming so lets not open that can of worms.
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Hi my name is Larry..... Hi Larry.....and I am a flashaholic, blazer ROM is my ROM of choice lol ohhhhh yeah
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thanks
Thanks all for your replies.
I'm not looking to start a flame war at all, just trying to save myself a ton of tinker time before going on a trip.
I have everything rooted from my Viewsonic Gtab to my old EVO and they both had bugs that affected my performance on the road.
I want stable but I also want root backup & hotspot. So I know I can't use the Samsung stuff. I would prefer ICS if it is stable but ginger is fine if it the only option.
I'm just looking for opinions. Even ones that are unpopular if they are worthy.
(Sucks changing phones. I invested so much time learning to root & all the different roms that when you change its like going to a new OS.)
Thanks again all who have & will post.
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I would prefer ICS if it is stable but ginger is fine if it the only option.
I have told several people the same thing and like I said I have tried everything, but blazer has all the functionality and no quirks and great battery life that you are looking for. IMO, just from my experience stay away from ICS until source code is released. I am not for sure but it seems like all the devs are just trying to make the most out of a good situation with the leaks right now but once they get something solid they will be able to make ICS just as good as their gingerbread roms. Shout out to all the devs for all your hard work I envy your skill. Thank you
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I just purchased a new to me SPH-D710. I need some name/compatibility clarifications.
I see that both the SPH-D710 and the I9100 seem to both be called by the Galaxy S2 name.
It looks like the chipset and cpu are the same on the D710, and the I9000. Are they close enough that they both use the same roms?
I also see that the D700 and the D710 are called by the Epic 4g name. Is there a easy way to identify which kind of rom I am looking at? It looks like the D710s are referred to as E4GT most often. Is there something else I should look for?
When I go to pick out my new rom and related things what should I look for to help avoid bricking my new toy?
Is there a thread that talks about this somewhere, which I have missed?
Thanks.
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I just purchased a new to me SPH-D710. I need some name/compatibility clarifications.
I see that both the SPH-D710 and the I9100 seem to both be called by the Galaxy S2 name.
It looks like the chipset and cpu are the same on the D710, and the I9000. Are they close enough that they both use the same roms?
I also see that the D700 and the D710 are called by the Epic 4g name. Is there a easy way to identify which kind of rom I am looking at? It looks like the D710s are referred to as E4GT most often. Is there something else I should look for?
When I go to pick out my new rom and related things what should I look for to help avoid bricking my new toy?
Is there a thread that talks about this somewhere, which I have missed?
Thanks.
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unless you want a fancy paper weight, never use roms from other phones. They have different model numbers and are under different forum threads for a reason
NO no NO no No no NO noooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Onle use roms, kernels, recovery etc made for this specific phone. D710, Epic 4G Touch, Sprint Galaxy S2
Please read the stickys and many other threads here before flashing anything. Also if there are directions on how to install a rom they are there for a reason.
Hey wiz, just stick with the "Epic Touch" forums and threads.
The key word is "Touch", that's what distinguishes your phone from the other variants. :thumbup:
Be a real wizard and read as much as possible in the "development" thread. :thumbup:
Pp.:beer::thumbup:
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Pancho is right on. Become a pro by reading the threads, esp the dev. Thread, both android and original. Those guys(and gals) in there are freaking geniuses with what they've done with this phone. Read up, and you'll find if you pay attn, it's very hard to actually hard brick this puppy, as long as you stick to the E4GT roms. Happy flashing!
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Thanked, beered, for the paperweight comment. Gotta chuckle outta me!
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Read the stickies, stay in the sprint epic 4g touch forums, DO NOT I repeat DO NOT flash anything for any device other than the sprint/boost/virgin galaxy s2/epic 4g touch/e4gt/sph-d710 any other model and you have a new doorstop/paper weight/clay pigeon for skeet shooting, etc. Read, read, read, when you think you got it read some more, then read it all again. Recovery is packed in the kernel in this device so before you do anything get a copy of chris41g's el26+cwm5 recovery/kernel in both tar and zip formats, you'll be using it often so keep em on your PC and SD card, go ahead and put em both in your dropbox/box accounts too.
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Is the boost Mobile sgsII the same as the e4gt? Everything I read says yes but I'm having a hard time distinguishing when I should heed to the "only for sprint" or brick warnings.
Trying to help a friend out and don't know much about the phone myself. It is apparently rooted already. This is the info I have on hand. Would like to get a jb aosp build working on it if I can
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Is the boost Mobile sgsII the same as the e4gt? Everything I read says yes but I'm having a hard time distinguishing when I should heed to the "only for sprint" or brick warnings.
Trying to help a friend out and don't know much about the phone myself. It is apparently rooted already. This is the info I have on hand. Would like to get a jb aosp build working on it if I can
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Yes the only difference is the mmsc/mms apn's everything else is identical. If you use a sprint rom you need to edit the mmsc/mms apns to get picture messaging (MMS) functioning and you're good to go. There may even be a zip for boost that will set the APNs for you, but I'm nkt sure if anyone's made one yet for the et4g
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Evil is exactly right. I have a boost galaxy s2. It's exactly the same, sph-d710, just has bst on the end which stands for boost. All E4GT roms in here will work just fine. Just get your MSL, edit mmsc url to mm.myboostmobile.com and life will be grand. Search, read, read, some more. But whatever you do don't flash the i9000 or epic 4g roms!
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Thank you both for your time. I'm still reading. I read not to use the recovery to flash just use Odin. Correct? Seems pointless to have a custom recovery and not use it. Recovery is packaged with the kernel I understand so I have to make sure it's e4gt compatible not necessarily boost specific since the partitions are the same I believe. Is there a thread I can get specifics on flashing? Thanks again. This is new territory for me so I have a bit of reading to do as always
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Thank you both for your time. I'm still reading. I read not to use the recovery to flash just use Odin. Correct? Seems pointless to have a custom recovery and not use it. Recovery is packaged with the kernel I understand so I have to make sure it's e4gt compatible not necessarily boost specific since the partitions are the same I believe. Is there a thread I can get specifics on flashing? Thanks again. This is new territory for me so I have a bit of reading to do as always
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The screenshot shows you're running agat's kernel, so it's definitely rooted. This is MY opinion only. I only flash through custom recovery when the install calls for it. For me, I flash a lot of mods, tweaks, etc, just to get unique, customized "feels.". Cwm is perfect for that. Alot of custom ROMs come with some type of custom recovery, you are correct about that. However, the jb roms that are out so not, because the source hasn't been released yet. So that may be what you've been reading. Agat has a custom recovery but from my experience it's hit or miss, and shouldn't be used to restore or flash roms, obit mods and tweaks. Every E4GT rom out there will flash to the boost variant, just know you'll have to change the mmsc url as discussed before ifs it's a sprint rom. All the roms also have specific instructions on how to flash them. If it says use a stock kernel, you can't go wrong with Chris41g's EL26 stock cwm kernel. It's safe and you shouldn't run the risk of bricking. Just flash it through odin, pull the battery, reboot into recovery, wipe cache and dalvik, flash rom, and you should be golden. Again, read the install instructions on the dev's thread for that specific rom. These guys are top notch, and won't steer you wrong. Good luck, never stop reading! Let me know how it goes.
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Thank you very much. I never stop reading. This is some new learning for me. A friend had his friend root the phone and now it's running rough he says. I have little experience with CDMA and no experience with Odin or boost Mobile. The guy who rooted it for him told him to unroot it all he had to do was factory data reset. I don't have to tell you why I'm shocked he even got it rooted in the first place. I have to pick up the pieces now and fix it. Didn't see any flashing procedure on carbon ROM op. I'll look again. I got sent through my research to a kernel repository and everything said sprint e4gt only. I'm guessing that is not true and I can ignore it as long as it is an e4gt. Not sure of the process of flashing jb but I'll figure it out. Are the jb builds stable on this device? Just out of curiosity. I have a nexus 4 so I have no idea. I'll continue reading. Thanks again for all the guidance here
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Thank you very much. I never stop reading. This is some new learning for me. A friend had his friend root the phone and now it's running rough he says. I have little experience with CDMA and no experience with Odin or boost Mobile. The guy who rooted it for him told him to unroot it all he had to do was factory data reset. I don't have to tell you why I'm shocked he even got it rooted in the first place. I have to pick up the pieces now and fix it. Didn't see any flashing procedure on carbon ROM op. I'll look again. I got sent through my research to a kernel repository and everything said sprint e4gt only. I'm guessing that is not true and I can ignore it as long as it is an e4gt. Not sure of the process of flashing jb but I'll figure it out. Are the jb builds stable on this device? Just out of curiosity. I have a nexus 4 so I have no idea. I'll continue reading. Thanks again for all the guidance here
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I am certainly no expert, but what I have figured out through trial and error, it's that jb roms can be a bit tricky to flash at the moment, simply because the source isn't out yet and the pros here haven't been able to work their magic as thoroughly as say, an ics or gb ROM. My advice, start slow. Flash an "easy" very stable Rom like Calkulin E4GT or Vemum's epic venum rom. There are a ton out there, those are just a couple that I really enjoy, and are a breeze to flash. Once you get that done, and have picked up the pieces from the shady rooting that your friend had done, then you can do a good nandroid backup, and tinker to your heart's content with some of the jb roms. I'm currently running Shadow_God's Jellyverse 1.0 and it is super smooth. Have limited knowledge but am happy to help. And another thing, the repository was probably rwilco12's. Save that to your favorites. You'll use that regularly. And yes, all of his E4GT modems, kernels, everything, works on boost. Fyi, boost is on sprints network. Hope this helps
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Thanks yet again. I was thinking the same thing about choice of ROMs. I'm sure I could figure or how to flash it fine but it might not be stable enough for someone who is not here at xda. I'm certainly no noob to android, rooting or customizing at all but he lacks the knowledge I have gained over time. I think he would be better off with the ICS build. I will try the one you enjoy as I'm sure he will enjoy it as well. Thanks again for everything. :thumbup:
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Thanks yet again. I was thinking the same thing about choice of ROMs. I'm sure I could figure or how to flash it fine but it might not be stable enough for someone who is not here at xda. I'm certainly no noob to android, rooting or customizing at all but he lacks the knowledge I have gained over time. I think he would be better off with the ICS build. I will try the one you enjoy as I'm sure he will enjoy it as well. Thanks again for everything. :thumbup:
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If he's not accustomed to ROMs, the most stable for me has been EL29. There are several really good ones on here, but personally I really like the epic venum, xplod xe(but make sure you read thoroughly, that I've can be tricky), and the Blu Kuban, but they are all really smooth and solid. For pure, simple, functionality, you can't go wrong with Calkulin's either. Good luck! Glad to help!
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I think I saw a venum build that looked interesting. May try that one out first. I read that mobile Odin isn't optimized for this phone. Have you tried it? Seems like that would make life easier. Do kernels for this phone work like other phones in the area of say over clocking or under volting? I got a lot of reading to do.
At least I'm comfortable with the boost aspect of it now. That was the part that was most confusing. All the handset specific parts I'll learn pretty quickly
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Disregard last couple of questions. Answered myself reading through a couple ROM threads.
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I think I saw a venum build that looked interesting. May try that one out first. I read that mobile Odin isn't optimized for this phone. Have you tried it? Seems like that would make life easier. Do kernels for this phone work like other phones in the area of say over clocking or under volting? I got a lot of reading to do.
At least I'm comfortable with the boost aspect of it now. That was the part that was most confusing. All the handset specific parts I'll learn pretty quickly
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The venum ROMs are all very solid. Team Venum are awesome developers and themers. I particularly like the epic venum, but I morphed some stuff over from Team Nocturnal's xplod xe ROM. I have used Mobile Odin on this phone, as have alot of folks on here. Personally, my flashing method of choice is cwm. Agat makes some great ones, but with the EL29, I actually flashed Team Rogue's gunslinger kernel so I could overclock(that answered the other part of your question). Yes, it can be done. I used setcpu myself, but it's all about personal taste. There are tons of mods and tweaks for a lot of the ROMs out there. I flash all of them through cwm, just because that is what I'm most comfortable with. Plus in one shot I can wipe, do a backup, flash stock cwm if needed, and then flash the mod/tweak. But I've read plenty where guys on here use Mobile Odin. Oh, and I just read Carbon ROM's thread. I wouldn't flash that to your buddy's phone yet if I were you. From the sound of it, it's still in beta, and being tested. Stick to the solid, confirmed, stable stuff for starters. Hope that helps! :beer:
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I was thinking the same thing. If it was my phone I would have no problem with beta testing and helping with further development. Seeing as it's not and he might have problems until I see him again (could be a week or 2) I'll stick with what is stable and easy to work with. From the screenshot he sent me that I posted earlier it seems as though that kernel has since been updated so I guess I'll start there and go with an easy build he can work with.
Time to start the downloading and figuring out Odin and recovery to be ready when I see him. Thanks again for all your help. HTC and nexus seem easier to work with in a way. Just new things to learn and broaden my knowledge of Android
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I was thinking the same thing. If it was my phone I would have no problem with beta testing and helping with further development. Seeing as it's not and he might have problems until I see him again (could be a week or 2) I'll stick with what is stable and easy to work with. From the screenshot he sent me that I posted earlier it seems as though that kernel has since been updated so I guess I'll start there and go with an easy build he can work with.
Time to start the downloading and figuring out Odin and recovery to be ready when I see him. Thanks again for all your help. HTC and nexus seem easier to work with in a way. Just new things to learn and broaden my knowledge of Android
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Good luck with everything. Glad I could help. If he has agat, you shouldn't need Odin since agat Wii have a custom recovery built. Just load the rom to his sd card, boot into recovery, wipe cache and dalvik, flash the rom as per the instruction and you should be good. Or use agat cwm to flash a.safe el build kernel. Chris41g's el29 is a great one. Good luck! Let me know if you have any issues.
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Thanks. Will report back when I see him and get it done. Should be by next weekend
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