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[Q] create contacts only in one directory

Hi,
I have my contacts stored in Exchange.
I have - obviously - also a MOTOBLUR-Account that Motorola forced on me upon activation that I do not intend to use and a google-Account for the market.
Now, when I create a new contact on my defy, I can not choose wether to create it in MOTOBLUR or Exchange or have it in my google account, it is automatically created in all three and all three sets of data are joined together.
So as I only want to have the Exchange contact, everytime I create a new contact, I do have to un-join the contacts and delete the MOTOBLUR and google contact manually.
That is in my eyes a mayor design flaw.
I do NOT want my phone to store my data in some suspicious cloud service that has been forced upon me in the first place.
Is there a way to create a contact specifically in the Exchange and NOT in Motoblur / google?
Or would I have to use a different contact manager app? Any recommendations then?
That also allows me to query the global adress book of Exchange (which the standard app apparently can't).
I'd be grateful for any tipps and help,
southy

I've been bothered by this issue too. It would be the most intuitive to be able to select in which account(s) a contact should be created at the time it is created.
But there is a different way to accomplish similar, but it's a global setting. In Settings->Accounts you can specify which items (contacts, calendar, e-mail) are to be synched with a given account. Well, for all BUT the MotoBlur account ;(, and because it's a global setting I have not yet examined the full ramification of it, and it's a kludge; what if one would like to synch some of the contacts with all accounts, but others with just one or two, but it's at least something.
BTW, I have not tried other paid (some are quite expensive) Exchange clients, but the free ones don't come even close to the Email app that's included on the Defy. If you find one that may be worth spending money, let us know.

Hi,
thanks for your feedback, that way I can at least disable the google-Account completely (which is only configured for the market access).
That leaves motoblur.
Regarding the Exchange clients: Yes, I would actually be willing to pay for one, but have yet not found one that really satisfies me.
I have tested Touchdown (from nitrodesk) for some time now but didn't buy it:
In general it was pretty good, there's just one problem: There is no way to deactivate notifications (new mail) at nights. As I use my mobile as alarm clock, I can't turn the sound completely off and so it tends to wake me up with new mail at night.
That's really annoying.
Actually it's pretty strange that they didn't implement something that basic - as there are very unusual other notification settings. The whole configuration in fact is somewhat overwhelming because sometimes you can configure the same thing on more than one location.

southy said:
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Or would I have to use a different contact manager app? Any recommendations then? That also allows me to query the global adress book of Exchange (which the standard app apparently can't).
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Maybe because I'm on the T-Mo USA 2.2.1 ROM, but in my Email app, when I'm entering letters into the <To> field, all matching names from the Exchange Address Book are being dynamically displayed. Not the same as browsing all of the Address Book and choosing one address, but good enough for me (I work in a relatively small organization). Doesn't yours do that?

Hi,
thanks for your reply,
I don't use the standard mail client any more. I stopped using it rather soon after I bought the Defy.
I just tried to figure out why, but sorry, I can't remember. But I remember that it was a rather important reason, because I started trying TouchDown as first alternative client and TD is such a pain to configure that it took me days.
I must have had a damn good reason to stick to trying.
But you are aware that there is a difference between personal contacts I store in exchange (which are synced with the mobile) and the global adress book of Exchange?
The global adress book is the complete dictionary of a company, AFAIK normally connected to the Active Directory-Accounts of the employees, which is centrally managed.
You can not sync it to your device, you can just search in it and pick a result.
Could it be you mixed those up?
Thanks anyway,
southy

southy said:
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But you are aware that there is a difference between personal contacts I store in exchange (which are synced with the mobile) and the global adress book of Exchange?
The global adress book is the complete dictionary of a company, AFAIK normally connected to the Active Directory-Accounts of the employees, which is centrally managed.
You can not sync it to your device, you can just search in it and pick a result.
Could it be you mixed those up?
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You are welcome, and no, no mixup. In the <To> field, if I press the <search> icon, it gives me the list of my contacts (stored locally on the phone); but, if I start typing into the field, the Global Address Book (on the Exchange Server) is dynamically searched and displayed as I type.

Hi Mars,
thanks for clearing this up and sorry I suspected you to mix things up.
Good to hear the stock app can use the global adress book - I never tried that before switching to another client.
However I guess I might completely revert back to the original app soon in order to get rid of all alternative clients - I tried TD and wasn't convinced, now I got Moxier installed and suddenly my contacts don't sync anymore - no idea why.
It seems I should just stick with the preinstalled stuff even though it's not good.
Or perhaps get a blackberry.
ups. Did I really say that?

Touchdown is brilliant - been using it for long time. the BEST!
With reference to the original quesition; when you create a contact you CAN chose which cateogry it should go in. In contacts, chose settings and uncheck the cateogry you do NOT want the account to go in to. This way you can uncheck google (or multiple google accounts). When you create a contact it will not be assinged to a google category and therefore not sync with online google contacts
Of course touchdown keeps its contacts seprate but the above is very usful for your own personal contacts. I have all sorts of sync going on and am very confident that ONLY the info i want on the internet goes to the internet.
Motoblur: I dont use it - never have. You canbypass this at setup time.
Ref sync: worth playing with settings > accounts and also contacts > settings - very useful

Hi jeanluc,
that's interesting - I just realised i had never actually created a contact out of TD, but always out of the stock "contact search" app.
Sorry for judging too quick.
However, after 20 mins of using TD contacts, I can't say I like it.
but whatever. I just tried generating a new contact and it worked and got synced to exchange.
But when I open the stock contact app, curiously enough, the contact has not been present for ~30minutes - apaprently TD maintains a second adressbook apart from the builtin which has only been synced later.
Well I seem to have lost the overview what syncs to what here...
But back to the point, you are completely correct, when I generate the contact out of TD, it only is being created in Exchange and nowhere else.
However - and please, please forgive such ignorance - I have just tried that and find it so very un-intuitive that I will keep on searching for a decent contact app.
This is my comments after only 15 minutes of trying TD contact:
Problems with creating a contact:
- the adress fields are not labeled. where goes the street, where the city, where the postcode?
Problems in TD contact in general:
- seperate contact database apart from the built in
- no pictures of contacts are being displayed
- search function not as quick reachable as stock apps
But there's also a plus:
- searching in global adress book (Exchange) works and even returns a phone number, not only the e-mail.
one last thing:
Ref sync: worth playing with settings > accounts and also contacts > settings - very useful
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"contacts -> settings": I am searching for such a settings dialogue the whole time - but I can't find it (to check how and when the stock android contacts sync to my exchange - as this is apparently a seperate thing apart from TD sync).
But I can't find those settings. I only find "settings -> accounts" but there I can only define the user credentials, not the sync process (frequency, manual trigger,...)
Can you point me to the correct place, please?
Thanks!

Settings for sync of built-in adressbook with Exchange:
found it!
Overview:
If you just want to sync contacs (& calendar) because maybe you do not use the stock mail client for Exchange, you need to:
1. settings -> accounts -> <your corporate account> -> uncheck "e-mail"
2. messages -> message settings -> e-mail -> mail delivery
Yes, it sounds strange to configure the adressbook sync in "messages" as I did deactivate that account for e-mail before, but apparently that's the way it is...

Maybe you should flash Orange of Finnish rom, that doesn't have blur registration at all?

southy said:
Settings for sync of built-in adressbook with Exchange:
found it!
Overview:
If you just want to sync contacs (& calendar) because maybe you do not use the stock mail client for Exchange, you need to:
1. settings -> accounts -> <your corporate account> -> uncheck "e-mail"
2. messages -> message settings -> e-mail -> mail delivery
Yes, it sounds strange to configure the adressbook sync in "messages" as I did deactivate that account for e-mail before, but apparently that's the way it is...
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Hi Southy
I dont actually create contats in TD as these are work contats and am happy for them to be pushed down from outlook/exchange which Im using constantly
I love TD - it does everytihng that I need
I also Android contacts for personal information and manage to keep that isolated from the internet.
I sync my personal calendar wth internet (google) as it doenst contain anything confidential but i suppose if you wanted to you could stop that at the calendar level but still allow another google calendar to sync - that way you view both google calendars on the phone but only one syncs (for this you need to enable calendar sync in settings>accounts but disable calendar sync for the specific calendar in the calendar application
Note: Worth rememering that a lot of sync software (missing sync, TD etc) will create an account on the phone which is accessible via settings>accounts. Always worth checkign whats created here and what functionality it provides as far as modifying sync is concertned
NOTE1: Are allyour questions answered now or are you still waiting for something?

HTC One X email clinet

Hey
Just converted from Iphone. Today I setup my HTC one X and have few questions. I like the HTC One X stock email client but what I fail to understand that why when I search mails it only search emails which currently resides in my HTC One X phone and doesn't give me option to search on server, an option which I had in my Iphone. This lack of search feature is literally annoying me as sometime I had to search emails which are very old and search on server feature comes handy at occasions.
Note: I have setup sync download type: by number of mails and the number is setup to 40 emails.
I did try K9 mail but it doesn't search either on server. Am I doing some mistake. Is there any way to sort this issue?
Best wishes,
Z

I'm interested too... Would be like to know how to search email on server and how to look up to Exchange Global Address (or email address in Public folder)
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Hello, make sure you sync "all folders" and set the current folder to "all folders" and the search will surely be more accurate.
But, if it doesn't work why don't you use the dedicated app ? Gmail or Hotmail for example ...
The app on the HOX is just a "simple" synced app, in my opinion, not a true mail app like you had on your iphone which was surely more like a "web mail" so that it was always connected to the server. The HTC ( android ? ) mail app is more a way to be alert on new mails than a "full content" mail app, like thunderbird or other apps for PCs.
You surely don't want your 5000+ mails on your phone or even old joined files which takes lots of room.
Another option is to import other mails in your gmail and use the gmail app.
I tried on my gmail and it looks like it searches on all mails.
Try'n'see

Thanks DanRZ for your feedback. I get your point about HOX email client as simply sync application. The whole idea of using HOX client was to have one stop integrated experience for emails rather than accessing different email accounts through different application.You probably are right in pointing out that dedicated email app like gmail app on HOX will resolve the problem but what about mails residing on other private networks like emails from my work or university. I will still not be able to search old emails from these accounts and my work and university certainly has no dedicated email app that could do that either.
Your point of importing them to gmail sounds promising but I already have thousands of emails on my gmail account and I don't want to clutter it more by importing it through gmail. Plus due to reason of confidentiality, I am not allowed to import my work emails to gmail account
In short, I am stuck. Is there any paid well professional application that could offer similar features as Iphone email client use to offer?
One more question: When HOX client or gmail app store emails on the phone? Are they stored on the 2 gb application space or it is stored on 25 gb space available on the phone?
Best wishes,
Z

The mail app DOES search the server. The what it does NOT do is search the body of the messages.. Don't know why but that's just how HTC did it.
Unfortunately there really isn't a 3rd party client that does proper search AND can sync more than one activesync account...
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Thanks ewok666 for your response. When searching I clicked 'option' (top right hand side) and selected sender, to and subject fields and then gave the keyword that was the person's name whose email I was searching, I also tried giving full email address as well. But it only returned results that were residing in my phone (i.e. 40 messages that were synced) and there was no option to further search on server as one see it in Iphone. If your point is right that it does search on the server them am I doing mistake, in this case could you please guide me. I would be really thankful to you.
Best wishes,
Z

zaask said:
Thanks ewok666 for your response. When searching I clicked 'option' (top right hand side) and selected sender, to and subject fields and then gave the keyword that was the person's name whose email I was searching, I also tried giving full email address as well. But it only returned results that were residing in my phone (i.e. 40 messages that were synced) and there was no option to further search on server as one see it in Iphone. If your point is right that it does search on the server them am I doing mistake, in this case could you please guide me. I would be really thankful to you.
Best wishes,
Z
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Sorry this has taken a while...are you trying to search an Exchange server? I don't know what other servers (if any) support server search. For me (using Exchange 2007 and 2010), as soon as I enter the search string I get some results and on the bottom I get "Search Server".

ewok666 said:
Sorry this has taken a while...are you trying to search an Exchange server? I don't know what other servers (if any) support server search. For me (using Exchange 2007 and 2010), as soon as I enter the search string I get some results and on the bottom I get "Search Server".
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got the "search server" option too when connected to lotus traveler with default HOX email client.

Thanks for a reply. I have one email setup on exchange server and I found the search on server option as you mentioned but other accounts like my university email and gmail which uses IMAP protocol don't perform search on server or give that option, though they used to give it when I was using Iphone.

zaask said:
Thanks for a reply. I have one email setup on exchange server and I found the search on server option as you mentioned but other accounts like my university email and gmail which uses IMAP protocol don't perform search on server or give that option, though they used to give it when I was using Iphone.
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I have been using HTC phones since I switched from Windows Mobile 6 to Android. Whenever I needed to get any mail older than 2 weeks, I would have to go to the browser and search. I am not a fan of using the dedicated apps because the mail client seems like a one-stop-shop for aggregating all emails. I was surprised when I recently found that the iPhone email client does search the server.
I am rooted and decided to try a vanilla version of Android for sometime. I noticed that the stock Android email client does search the server for emails not on the phone. Let me see if I can find a way for you to download the email client...
Eyong

Unfortunately, it looks like you can't use Google's email client independently. Sorry
Eyong

Searching Contacts in Maps or Google Search no longer works?

As the subject stated, entering ANY name (first, last) in either app doesn't work. Nothing displayed.
I have included Contact in Google Search settings, use the same Google account for both apps, but to no avail.
Can anyone assist?
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Although I have set Contacts syncing, per Google help page, I did not sync "People Details".
Anyone know if this is the reason? I don't want to start syncing this off it is not necessary, as i don't want to share my contact address outside of my Google accounts.

[Q] Email search not working

Whenever I search for something in the search bar of the email app, it insists that the word for which I am searching does not exist in either my device or on the server.
I've tested this numerous times with both my email accounts (Gmail and Outlook) and it won't acknowledge finding anything ever (including, for example, the subject line of the very first email in my account).
Is this a known problem, or am I just unlucky?

Is it risky to enter gmail password in 3rd party app

Hello, some apps such as Trello, Wrike, Project Planning, etc., require the user to enter their gmail userid and password within these app. Is it risky to do it? I don't know if such 3rd party developer could access such info as they are entered from the app.

Once they get your username and password they can do anything you can do in Gmail. They could read all of your emails and maybe even send out spam using your ID. I never give out that kind of info to anyone or app.

I agree. It's one thing if the application requests access through Google's own API whereby you are redirected to a Google login but it's another to have to enter in your login information into a 3rd party app.
I use 2-factor authentication and keep track of what applications I give access to. It's helpful to do so so that one can be made aware immediately if an unauthorized login occurs.
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Thanks. I just go a strange event called "Analogy game" on my google calendar. Don't recall entering that event. Scary! I changed my password immediately. Is that OK from now on?

Luckily Google is very helpful when it comes to security.
Here you can view every device that has accessed your account in the last 28 days. Useful to see if anyone's logged in to your account without your knowledge:
https://security.google.com/settings/security/activity?pli=1 Click on the device and hit remove to revoke access.
And here you can see which permissions every app and device has, and what they're allowed to do:
https://security.google.com/settings/security/permissions
Click on one and hit Revoke Access on the right to revoke their access to your account. (Also useful for old or missing devices) “access to basic account info” means you've logged in to the device using your Google ID.
Logging into an app via the Google Framework login (The official Google login page) grants the app access to exactly what it says on the screen when you log in. If an app says 'Basic Info', all it gets is your public Google+ profile and your email adress. (Not your inbox.) If an app says it syncs data, that's what it'll do.
Apps which display your activity, emails, calendar items etcetera require a sync between your account and the app. This means that yes, the app can see all your emails. That's the price you pay for using an app like that.
A quick lookup of Trello lists it as both an Editor's Choice and a Top Developer in Google Play. That should be safe.
Wrike only has about 1700 users. I'm not so optimistic about that one.
Not all 3rd party apps are evil. K9 mail requires your Gmail account because it's an email app and it's perfectly safe.