Itty bitty defy modded - Defy General

Minimal modded to my defy seeing it was my everyday phone. Now that I have the defy+ I'm going hands in the the defy been reading and reading now I would like input from other users.
So.....
What modes are best for the defy?
Make it faster, responsive with no lags or glitches.
I'm on cm 7.2 froyo kernel thinking bout upgrading to gb kernel. Any suggestions?
Also should add its OCD at 1000. Should i bring it up to 1100 or 1200. Is there a big difference? And what settings should I use.

Here could be a start!
And as far as I know CM7 sets your Defy's max frequency at 1GHz.

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[Q] Quadrant Standered

hello all,
i was just curious, how come my quadrant scores are always so low (mid 1100s)? i know that's not terribly low, but it is not close to where the "evo benchers" site reports that they are. currently im using the new htc kernal, only becuase i have only seen minimal performance changes with kings or netarchy.
thank you!
when Evo first came out they were only mid 500's...
depends on rom you are running also i believe, i only got 1100-1200 running Sense roms with stock HTC Kernel.
With CM Nightlies + Snap7.6 + Turbo Mode + 1.2ghz setCPU .... math, lol, i have gone as high as 2600 on quadrant.
It's just a basic benchmark and unless you have the paid version that breaks down your score it isn't really a good thing to go by.
1100 is pretty standard with the new HTC kernel and a sense rom. I run VaelPak, trimmed some extra fat, and get 1350 with stock kernel, 1500 with kingx #10. So ill stick with the stock kernel, better battery life imo.
Hey... I think this thing makes phone calls too!
After alot of work and tweaking got my EVO to its highest quandrant yet..1585 and Linpack of 33.899 MFlops.
Always a great day when one has the full freedom to R&D something they purchased with their hard earned money without being shackled.
I use snap v7.6 w/turbo activated and just got 2483 , w/linpack 37.21
f10g44 said:
hello all,
i was just curious, how come my quadrant scores are always so low (mid 1100s)? i know that's not terribly low, but it is not close to where the "evo benchers" site reports that they are. currently im using the new htc kernal, only becuase i have only seen minimal performance changes with kings or netarchy.
thank you!
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My scores are worse. I avg around 1000, usually 900something
Look a page or two down and the very helpful and patient peopele here gave my several suggestions. I haven't tried any of them yet, but I will when I have more time.
Ive gotten 2700's a few time with snap and Cyanogen 6.1 OC'd of course.

[Q] Linpack scores

Hello, I was just wondering what scores you guys tend to be getting in linpack. I am trying to figure out the fastest set up for my phone. I am currently getting 2.55 with "not so super froyo" with the 10-12-2010 kernel and my phone overclocked to 520 Mhz with the GPU overclocked as well. I also have a lot of widgets open, I am confident I could hit a solid 3 if they were not open.
I've been doing quite a bit of testing with different builds so I usually don't use a lot of widgets. With no OC I usually hit 2.6 in Linpack. OC'd to 500Mhz it is around 3.3.....
I have changed the goals of this thread... I think we should now have a benchmark of everyone's scores that way we know what is slowing them down or making them faster.
Also... for some reason I do not believe I should be almost a full Mflop slower than you when I have more of an overclock so something is definately up with my phone. Maybe with this thread I can find out what is.
I haven't noticed much change between kernel releases. My phone with no OC has consistently got 2.6-2.7 on any of the .32 kernels and fresh froyo releases (2.2 and 2.2.1)
hi
yesterday i did the benchmarking
I have hit 3.95
I'm using the latest kernal .32
overclocked via Rogue Tolls to 561 MHZ
confused...
interesting results for me are (should say yoda)
if i use stock speeds i got 1.7, with 450 got 2.0-1.9 beyond this the score keeps gettin lower and lower till linpack FC when i reach the 550... so i guess i should stick to 450mhz with donut and .25 kernel, wonder if newer kerlens can get me to ur amazing results.
How are you overclocked? CPU through kernel has some pretty funky results. Also it's more unstable that way.
Nope, i use rogue tools only, and yes using atools to oc its not a good idea, i guess its because rogue tools oc the system AFTER the fs has been mounted, instead of ocing it from beggining like atools does, and with kernel .32 having this mounting issues i guess isnt too smart to rush it even more!

[Q] CM7 OC to 768MHz?

Are there any bad things that can pop out if phone is OCed to 768MHz? Does it last shorter, can it screw battery etc..?
Thanks
It's unlikely you will 'pop out' something at 768 MHz. Some Wildfire's will not be stable at that speed, and, that is about the worst it can get, in which case, your Wildfire will lag a lot,and you will have to tone down the frequency a bit.
Battery life may take a hit, but, it wont be anything drastic again, also, as for component life, again, it may take a hit, but, even at 768, it will last till the time you are ready to retire it.
what is the recommended overclock speed, i can overclock to 729mhz and its stable no reboots etc or should i overclock to 691mhz??
Not really necessary, if your phone is not behaving abnormally at 729.
Is the difference with overclocking really that noticeable compared to stock speeds?
It's marginal. Definitely not as much as the overclock %age suggests. The only big difference will be in benchmarks.
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It's marginal. Definitely not as much as the overclock %age suggests. The only big difference will be in benchmarks.
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i just overclocked to 729MHZ its awesome, the speed is noticable , and its stable i hope its fine and doesn't take more battery life lol
got mine at 710mhz and its stable no problems at all
keep the max overclock value at 729 MHz and the minimum on at least 264 MHz.
This saves battery when phone isn't in use and the speed increase is noticeable, it's rather nippy! (certainly for texting anyway)
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Device: HTC Wildfire, 16GB Kingston micro SD
ROM: CM7
Recovery: CWM
Status: Overclocked @ 726 MHz - stable

Why is Cyanogen on Defy SO fast?

Greetings all. Allow me to introduce myself and explain my noob credentials before making my main point. I am an electronic engineer by day, and I am not a software person - assembler is as high-level as I am comfortable programming. My phone hacking credentials extend only as far as rooting and unlocking one galaxy S, and installing cyanogen 7 on a ZTE Blade, another Galaxy S and my personal Defy.
The blade was the first cyanogen install I did, and I did not find it to be spectacularly fast. However, on a 600MHz processor, was I expecting too much?
Next up was my defy. Oh my word... This is absurdly fast, as we all know. My phone scores 2100 in quadrant (for whatever that is worth - we know quadrant has its flaws).
Finally, I installed CM7 on a Galaxy S, and was marginally disappointed. Yes, it was a bit slicker than touchwiz, but not much. Quadrant of 1615, despite the significantly greater 3d capability of the SGS over the Defy.
So, some questions in my mind - Why does the Defy benefit so much, and how does it end up significantly outperforming the SGS when on paper they are pretty even with a slight advantage to the SGS - both 1GHz, both 512MB RAM, SGS has SGX540 and lower res screen (fewer pixels needing fill rate can potentially improve graphics framerates).
What it comes down to, I believe, is the RAM. The SGS has a strange memory architecture for its 512MB, with 128MB as "onedram" offering ~10GB/s speeds, required by the SGX540 and apparently solely dedicated to it. The remaining 384MB is LPDDR (1.6GB/s) and is what is available to the system (with CM7 reporting 342 total in about phone).
In contrast, the defy has 512MB LPDDR2 (3.2GB/s), which is all available to the system with dynamic allocation to the GPU when required. CM7 reports 477.
Therefore, in situations where the GPU is not being heavily used (which is most of the time for general system use) the Defy has much more and much faster memory for the system.
So it seems that the key for CM7 performance is memory speed and capacity, not necessarily processor power.
Should ICS come to the SGS with GPU-accelerated UI then I think the SGS would suddenly have a big advantage over all other single-core phones.
Quadrant Score for CM7 on the Defy is absolutly not relevant.
I should not use this as point of comparison ... not at all.
Does your Defy run slicker than your GS2 ? Does apps run faster ?
Do you have same settings on the both device ?
It is an SGS (i9000), not a GS2 (i9100).
Yes. The defy does seem to run a bit slicker and more fluidly than the SGS.
Also for me, defy + cm7 is way better then my ex-dhd....
Le_Poilu said:
Quadrant Score for CM7 on the Defy is absolutly not relevant.
I should not use this as point of comparison ... not at all.
Does your Defy run slicker than your GS2 ? Does apps run faster ?
Do you have same settings on the both device ?
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Of course it would give some insight even if it's flawed...
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LauncherPro and browser opera use gpu for its work. If you are right, sgs would benefit greatly by using those instead other cpu based.

[discussion] making the defy faster and smoother

Hello all.
I'm trying to get the most of my defy.
Currently using cyanogenmod 7, over clocked to 1.2ghz.
I have now started using the v6 supercharger script as hoping its not placebo but seems to be working a lot better. Used option 9.
Does anyone else use the v6 script and what option did you go for?
Also do you have any other tweeks for making the defy smoother or faster?
Have uploaded a screenshot of my benchmark.
V6 original thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
I'm using the latest V6 RC 3.2, with option 6 (ledded) (now I'm testing option 7), and option 13 (bulitproof launcher). I installed nitro lag nullifier. I also use kak script, and 3G turbocharge script. Overall it has big improvement, my defy is much faster and more responsive. I have only a little lag in scrolling the launcher when I use live wallpaper, btw I'm using blur launcher, and MS2Ginger 2.1 rom, overclocked to 1.2 Ghz. My scores are around 2700 - 2800.
Thanks a few things to look up.
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I'm just using CM7 with ADW launcher, the score varies from 2500 to 2940...after 4 times of benching.
Also OCed to 1.2ghz
What is V6?
nameite said:
I'm just using CM7 with ADW launcher, the score varies from 2500 to 2940...after 4 times of benching.
Also OCed to 1.2ghz
What is V6?
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copied from the v6 post
What's it do?
It makes your phone FAST... super snappy with better multitasking!
It rearranges and fixes the OOM Groupings and Priorites and lowmemorykiller values.
So basically, it's a COMPLETE MEMORY MANAGEMENT FIX!
It's the ONLY one of it's kind
NO LAUNCHER REDRAWS, faster than ever, multitasking is better... why?
Because it works with the lowmemorykiller and letting it work the way it's meant to work.
Also, because of the rearrangement, it works the same on all roms!
The problem with using minfree tweakers like AMM or AKMO is that it doesn't work the same on all roms.
Secondary apps may be in slot 3 on some roms but in slot 5 in others!
That's why you hear people comment "I tried AKMO but it didn't do anything..."
Most likely it didn't do anything because the apps weren't sitting where they were expected to be.
So fasten your seat belts and enjoy the ride!
Super Charge... Makes it impossible to kill other apps & dats the downfall
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Try also thunderbolt's script... much better than super charger v6 to me & doesn't interfere with cm7 killing app function, of long press on back button
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Anyone still using this script or the thunderbolt script on Cm.7.1.0-11-defy?
I'm trying to figure out if people see a noticeable improvement before taking the leap myself. Better synthetic scores don't really matter to me.
I may be interested too, what are the downsides of these, and is there a way of undoing it?
Sent from my 1Ghz CM7 + CM9 Defy
crakeron said:
I may be interested too, what are the downsides of these, and is there a way of undoing it?
Sent from my 1Ghz CM7 + CM9 Defy
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YEs, there is an option on the V6 to Undo the changes.
plz tell me how to install
plz tell me how to install
zorofroozo said:
Anyone still using this script or the thunderbolt script on Cm.7.1.0-11-defy?
I'm trying to figure out if people see a noticeable improvement before taking the leap myself. Better synthetic scores don't really matter to me.
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I didn't use it for a long time. But used it on a recent nightly and forgot how much it changed the phone.
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I've been using it to, and the phone does feel smoother. The nitro lagg nullier makes the difference on my defy.
(I used it in conjunction with the multitasking setting if i'm not mistaken)
It's buttery smooth on Option 6 - "Balanced."
Minimal modded to my defy seeing it was my everyday phone. Now that I have the defy+ I'm going hands in the the defy been reading and reading now I would like input from other users.
So.....
What modes are best for the defy?
Make it faster, responsive with no lags or glitches.
I'm on cm 7.2 froyo kernel thinking bout upgrading to gb kernel. Any suggestions?
kidrobot52 said:
Minimal modded to my defy seeing it was my everyday phone. Now that I have the defy+ I'm going hands in the the defy been reading and reading now I would like input from other users.
So.....
What modes are best for the defy?
Make it faster, responsive with no lags or glitches.
I'm on cm 7.2 froyo kernel thinking bout upgrading to gb kernel. Any suggestions?
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Well I will always suggest supercharger script and also kak script as it gives me great boost and reduces lag a lot.
Sent from my ICS Defy
As i have been chasing the holy grail in my Defy+ for the last weeks, i have been thru some settings and my own observation around the SuperCharger is that it totally screwed up atleast my already overclocked Defy+. I was running scores around 2400-2500 in Quadrant and after installing SC it really felt slow and a new test in Quadrant really proved what i have been feeling, the score was around 1800. Notice then that my first setting in SC was a fullblown 1000bhp setting (dont remember what the highest number is), so i thought i had shot myself in the foot and overloaded things, tuned it down to a 512bhp settings (somewhere in the middle) and did a new test, still was the same score in Quadrant. After some anger management i uninstalled it and ran a new Quadrant test, this time i scored 2200. I dont know if i managed to screw anything up in SC but thats my 2 cents of an observation.
Stock MIUI straight out of the archive gave me 26000 - 25000 on quadrant...
after installing all of my guff it naturally got lower scores, but - speed doesn't necessarily equate to smoothness...
I then went to linpack.apk which allows you to compare your scores against, well - your scores...
As I turned up the OC the ph got quicker - but not smoother (if you get my drift)...
So, on my personalized MIUI I pasted in Juwe11's ram script & Samsungs Loopysmoothness script... they helped with the smoothness I was after... (+enabling JIT in SetSvel - makes a diff)...
Now I'm running WajKIUI hybrid... battery seems to drain quicker, but it's silky smooth... speed is similar to MIUI OC'ed @ 1.2GHz...
King_Rat said:
Stock MIUI straight out of the archive gave me 26000 - 25000 on quadrant...
after installing all of my guff it naturally got lower scores, but - speed doesn't necessarily equate to smoothness...
I then went to linpack.apk which allows you to compare your scores against, well - your scores...
As I turned up the OC the ph got quicker - but not smoother (if you get my drift)...
So, on my personalized MIUI I pasted in Juwe11's ram script & Samsungs Loopysmoothness script... they helped with the smoothness I was after... (+enabling JIT in SetSvel - makes a diff)...
Now I'm running WajKIUI hybrid... battery seems to drain quicker, but it's silky smooth... speed is similar to MIUI OC'ed @ 1.2GHz...
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That must be one hell of a Defy u got there if u managed to score around 25,000 points in
Quadrant
For some reason the defy phones in some way seems to score higher than the +, god knows why.
I tried to run a Sonic the hedgehog game with my best settings it ran really smooth and the handling seemed better than ever. But more smoothness never hurt as long as it doesnt decrease speed. I rather run like that and get a better battery
Do u know if those scripts work on the +?
FlashTec80 said:
That must be one hell of a Defy u got there if u managed to score around 25,000 points in
Quadrant
For some reason the defy phones in some way seems to score higher than the +, god knows why.
I tried to run a Sonic the hedgehog game with my best settings it ran really smooth and the handling seemed better than ever. But more smoothness never hurt as long as it doesnt decrease speed. I rather run like that and get a better battery
Do u know if those scripts work on the +?
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Which Sonic game ?
Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode 1 ?
Herpderp Defy.

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