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[Q] wtf

can someone please inform me how the tmobile galaxy s phone can reach quadrant scores of 2400 and im only pushing 1200

I've hit 2700 on my Evo my penor is HUGE!

haha funny i actually seen his quad score so i know its true

I wouldn't think too much of it. Cyanogen showed that the difference between 1200 and 40 gabillion in quadrant can be something as rediculous as the filesystem. I don't put much weight in those scores when comparing different phones.
http://briefmobile.com/cyanogen-demonstrates-quadrants-flaws

ok so other then cm what other rom/kernel would reduce lag and increase speed right now im trying fresh 3.3.0.1 with king kernel #9

jjarn said:
ok so other then cm what other rom/kernel would reduce lag and increase speed right now im trying fresh 3.3.0.1 with king kernel #9
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Why don't you try installing >>Snap 7.6 kernel on a Sense ROM and then try to enable TURBO? That'll *should* get you scores beyond 2000 but I'm not sure how well it works. >>Snap kernels are designed for CM ROMs ONLY and there is no support for installing a >>Snap kernel on a Sense ROM - but I've read about others who've done it. Maybe give that a try? I haven't done it so I won't be any help but I've read about it which means maybe it'll work for you.

Dude I really don't understand why you're so concerned with Quadrant scores. It's just a number.

_MetalHead_ said:
Dude I really don't understand why you're so concerned with Quadrant scores. It's just a number.
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Well, it does ultimately represent something. But unless you can see a real difference, I wouldn't care so much.

If your phone is snappy and smooth, it shouldn't matter what score you get in Quadrant. When I was on CM6 I was scoring 2000+, on Fresh I get around 1650 and I think my Evo is running way better with Fresh than it did with CM6.

well see ive tried fresh with the kings kernel and still not gettin that high i wanna try nets kernel but not sure which one is compatible i like baked but takes too long to boot i also like fresh

Have you tried the new official kernel? It's not going to give you crazy quadrant scores but it will make your battery last a lot longer + I think the way HTC lifted the cap makes it smoother than the custom kernels. It makes the phone more useful which IMHO is more important than Quadrant scores.

Sporkman said:
WATCH OUT his e - penis just shrank 2 inches
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thanks for providing me with my new signature!

[KERNEL]1.28Ghz?!

Just wondering if anybody has tried this kernel yet? Found it over on AndroidMobileJunkie.com (Followed a link in somebody's sig here n XDA that said 1.28Ghz so naturally I was curious lol) Anyways, here's the link for the post over on AMJ. http://forum.androidmobilejunkie.com/threads/kernel-ziggy471-droid-incredible-22-oct.11/

yea ziggy's kernel. It's been in discussion in both of the Desire rom port threads. 1.28 is very rough on the processor though, and mostly unstable for a lot of people's phones (mine included), even ziggy admits it's a risky business, but he has proven it is possible.

I am so tempted to try this, but I'm afraid to fry my phone. My go big or go home mentality may make me give in. Wish there was someone who posted on the thread link

I ran it. No problems a 1.28 but really didn't use it long. Here's my Quadrant post in the Desire Z port thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8775977&postcount=168
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I'd imagine that clocking the processor that high wouldn't make much difference than say, 1.19GHz.
In fact, in plenty of ROMs I've tried, anything clocking over 1152mhz actually gives me a decrease in my quadrant scores. Not to say its not a stability issue - I'd assume that most Snapdragons actually clock higher than 998mhz, but then are reduced because that's baseline performance, anything less than 998mhz would get kicked.
I've never had a ROM crash, even running at 1.19GHz, but didn't notice any performance gains, plus, unless you just happen to get a chip that is capable of 1.28GHz no problem, it's probably near bottle-neck anyway.
And Quadrant has several variables way outside of clock speed that can pull 1800's, including just your flavor ROM.
Bottom Line: It's not worth frying your phone just for a barely-existent performance gain. If you happen to have a processor that is incapable of stability at 1.28GHz, you might fry out some transistors, then get stuck with something that freezes if you clock it over 700, let alone the 998 stock.

For me personally 1.28 is no improvement over 1.152. In fact, it gives me worse benchmarks.

sorry for repost

I gave this kernel a try and I actually prefer the newest HTC 2.6.32.17 charging time has significantly decreased battery life has increased and the performance is really responsive and smooth. My quadrant scores are nothing impressive pretty average but I would rather all of the above than a high quadrant.

I tried this kernal and my camera stopped working...

HeyItsLou said:
I gave this kernel a try and I actually prefer the newest HTC 2.6.32.17 charging time has significantly decreased battery life has increased and the performance is really responsive and smooth. My quadrant scores are nothing impressive pretty average but I would rather all of the above than a high quadrant.
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Lou hit the nail on the head. I love the .17 kernel. Im using the new guy with great performance, battery life, charging, and neat transitions. its like a new phone.

I'm using this with a vanilla froyo ROM and my battery life is amazing. Haven't noticed any freezing or any program not working.

Wow!
Thanks for all the replies guys, I think for now I'm gonna stick with the stock kernel also, I just remember back when I used to run KxK's kernels seeing great benchmarks and battery life I was always wondering if there were any faster out there lol

dimebagdan65 said:
Thanks for all the replies guys, I think for now I'm gonna stick with the stock kernel also, I just remember back when I used to run KxK's kernels seeing great benchmarks and battery life I was always wondering if there were any faster out there lol
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There's always faster, the question is will they work. lol
When I'm running the newer Sense ports, HD or Z, I can only run 1.113, no matter how much or little voltage I give it. When I'm running an older one, I can go all the way up.
As for stability at 1.28G, I need to work on the voltage more, to find the sweet spot, I just did it 'cause Jugs said one of his Bravo buds had it working, so I had to try.
I'll keep playing with it if people are still interested, otherwise, I'll just keep at the lower speeds.
Z

Just loaded up your AOSP on Ruby 1.1.4. Running great, 1600 in Quad at 1ghz. Everything seems really smooth. Are the voltages undervolted at 1ghz? Maybe you could start your own thread?

Nevermind...found it!

ziggy471 said:
There's always faster, the question is will they work. lol
When I'm running the newer Sense ports, HD or Z, I can only run 1.113, no matter how much or little voltage I give it. When I'm running an older one, I can go all the way up.
As for stability at 1.28G, I need to work on the voltage more, to find the sweet spot, I just did it 'cause Jugs said one of his Bravo buds had it working, so I had to try.
I'll keep playing with it if people are still interested, otherwise, I'll just keep at the lower speeds.
Z
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By the way, my post wasn't meant to disrespect your efforts to 1.28GHz, I'm just giving fair warning that someone could possibly burn out their phone if they jack it up all the way. When I'm ready for an upgrade, I'll probably put this thing to the max.
Thanks Ziggy

hajabooja said:
Just loaded up your AOSP on Ruby 1.1.4. Running great, 1600 in Quad at 1ghz. Everything seems really smooth. Are the voltages undervolted at 1ghz? Maybe you could start your own thread?
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What AOSP kernel??? I only see one kernel, and it references skyraider, which leads me to believe it is a sense kernel
edit: I am dumb. It is a different thread on the same site as listed above
http://forum.androidmobilejunkie.com/threads/kernel-ziggy471-droid-incredible-aosp-23-oct.24/

rmaccamr said:
By the way, my post wasn't meant to disrespect your efforts to 1.28GHz, I'm just giving fair warning that someone could possibly burn out their phone if they jack it up all the way. When I'm ready for an upgrade, I'll probably put this thing to the max.
Thanks Ziggy
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I didn't take it as such, and I agree with you fully. I prefer somewhere between 1.113 and 1.15. That's the reason I included the init script to set the max at 1.113, which I find very stable and fast, hell I'd say 1865 quad with ID's Z port isn't too shabby at 1.13.
I should be able to get 1.28 more stable with playing with the voltages, it's just that takes time, and I wasted too much this morning doing both AOSP INC and Evo kernels, so I'm worn out for awhile on kernels. I still need to fix the Evo for puertoblack, since it appears I left the debug port out, so no adb for it. lol
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[Q] What is an average quadrant score?

Please forgive me if this s somewhere else, but the search function is down I think.
I feel like my brand new evo is pretty laggy compared to what Ive seen. I have rooted and am running the newest stock kernel.
Ive tried Mik's rom and Myn's rom, they both net me an average score of 1100 on quadrant.
Am I way below where I should be? Seems like my menus are much "jerkier" than what Ive seen around.
Also, if anyone knows, what does wipe SD-EXT in recovery do?

EricSS619 said:
Please forgive me if this s somewhere else, but the search function is down I think.
I feel like my brand new evo is pretty laggy compared to what Ive seen. I have rooted and am running the newest stock kernel.
Ive tried Mik's rom and Myn's rom, they both net me an average score of 1100 on quadrant.
Am I way below where I should be? Seems like my menus are much "jerkier" than what Ive seen around.
Also, if anyone knows, what does wipe SD-EXT in recovery do?
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I would agree that 1100 is average, but you could make your phone so much faster. Download Spare parts from the market and set you transitions and windows animations too fast. This should increase your quadrant score, thought it may take two test to show a boost. Also how long gave you had your evo on its current rom. The evo is like a person, it needs time to adapt to its kernel. So when you flash a rom, be patient and give your phone a couple day (3 or 4) to get used to the kernel. Then if performance and/or battery is bad, you can pm and i can recommend the kernel i use as well as others. With my current set up, which is Myn's RLS 5 and net 4.3 cfs, but don't worry just sit on your current set up. Good luck

redsoxfan320 said:
I would agree that 1100 is average, but you could make your phone so much faster. Download Spare parts from the market and set you transitions and windows animations too fast. This should increase your quadrant score, thought it may take two test to show a boost. Also how long gave you had your evo on its current rom. The evo is like a person, it needs time to adapt to its kernel. So when you flash a rom, be patient and give your phone a couple day (3 or 4) to get used to the kernel. Then if performance and/or battery is bad, you can pm and i can recommend the kernel i use as well as others. With my current set up, which is Myn's RLS 5 and net 4.3 cfs, but don't worry just sit on your current set up. Good luck
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Thanks, I just flashed Myn's RLS 5 a few hours ago and I have been flashing like every day since I rooted. Ill give it a few days and see what happens. My girlfriend jsut got an EVO slide and I guess I just have envy since it seems so much snappier straight out of the box.
Not to mention my battery seems to die in a matter of a couple hours and hers has gone down only 30% in the last 16 hours.

EricSS619 said:
Thanks, I just flashed Myn's RLS 5 a few hours ago and I have been flashing like every day since I rooted. Ill give it a few days and see what happens. My girlfriend jsut got an EVO slide and I guess I just have envy since it seems so much snappier straight out of the box.
Not to mention my battery seems to die in a matter of a couple hours and hers has gone down only 30% in the last 16 hours.
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I recommend just leaving it on the same kernel for the weekend. Also do you use sense as in the clock and different widgets. Because i removed sense from my phone and get about 19 hours on a single charge with regular use.

redsoxfan320 said:
I recommend just leaving it on the same kernel for the weekend. Also do you use sense as in the clock and different widgets. Because i removed sense from my phone and get about 19 hours on a single charge with regular use.
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Yeah I do use sense. Not sure if Im ready to give it up yet though ><

1100 seems like an average score for an relatively "stock" rooted Evo with a custom rom. I've had my quadrant score range from 1100 to 1300 from just a custom rom. Flashing different kernels with net you different scores also. With just netarchy's 4.1.9 no havs, Fresh 3.5, no overclock netted me a score ranging from 1300-1400. Overclocking to 1.2 ghz got to 1450-1650. I'm sure I can tweak some more to squeeze more performance out of my Evo. But usually I keep my phone at stock speed with Fresh rom and I'm satisfied with its performance.
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EricSS619 said:
Yeah I do use sense. Not sure if Im ready to give it up yet though ><
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Okay because my bro has the same set up as me but gets about 4 hours less battery, because sense sucks battery life.

can anyone tell me if my numbers seem off i get about 1200-1300 quadrant and 32-33 on linpack with stock kernel and myns rls5...

EricSS619 said:
Please forgive me if this s somewhere else, but the search function is down I think.
I feel like my brand new evo is pretty laggy compared to what Ive seen. I have rooted and am running the newest stock kernel.
Ive tried Mik's rom and Myn's rom, they both net me an average score of 1100 on quadrant.
Am I way below where I should be? Seems like my menus are much "jerkier" than what Ive seen around.
Also, if anyone knows, what does wipe SD-EXT in recovery do?
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I use MIUI and average around 1600-1700 on quadrant oc'd to 1150. The ROM itself is much smoother running than pretty much every sense rom I've tried but still not perfect. That "jerkiness" is a limitation of the EVO, no matter what ROM or kernel you use it still won't be iPhone smooth.
SD-EXT is where your apps are stored when using apps2sd. So wipe SD-EXT will wipe that partition.

I went from using stock sense with a score of 1100ish... To runnin CM6 with the stock kernel and a score of 1400 ish... My 3g speed went from an average of 450kbps to above 700... Go figure
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Leedroid but what kernel

Hi all,
I've got Leedroid and would like to know how the hell people get the 3000+ scores on quadrant ?
I've used most of the roms with a lot of the kernels but the most i get is around 2500 - 2600 , i've heard that the kernel by Kamma is a good one but i'm at a loss as to which one i should use.
So if anyone could point out which one i could use for .
1. Stability.
2. Battery saving.
3. Benchmarking (without smoking my device of course)
Any answers would be appreciated.
Thanks.

dladz said:
Hi all,
I've got Leedroid and would like to know how the hell people get the 3000+ scores on quadrant ?
I've used most of the roms with a lot of the kernels but the most i get is around 2500 - 2600 , i've heard that the kernel by Kamma is a good one but i'm at a loss as to which one i should use.
So if anyone could point out which one i could use for .
1. Stability.
2. Battery saving.
3. Benchmarking (without smoking my device of course)
Any answers would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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the first thing you need to understand is quadrant is ****, it is not an acurate indication of the speed of your device, a few devs have made kernels that trick quadrant into giving it massive scores, but in reality there kernels are not the best that being said, you wont find a better kernel for stability or speed than leedroids one, it is flawless you can download it here
http://www.multiupload.com/U2ECLTRT7V

AndroHero said:
that being said, you wont find a better kernel for stability or speed than leedroids one, it is flawless you can download it here
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Have you noticed much difference between 2.0.5 and 2.0.6 kernels? The LeeDroid thread is getting very lengthy to read through these days to catch up on new updates lol!

RobSimmo said:
Have you noticed much difference between 2.0.5 and 2.0.6 kernels? The LeeDroid thread is getting very lengthy to read through these days to catch up on new updates lol!
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Yeah the new one is based on the latest kernel source, with the 1.75 libs,
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Tbh I use leedroids newest one an its really good, quadrant gets 2500 +
The device is smooth as silk, bit then again it always was.
I didn't know that quadrant was pants, I thought it was a good benchmarking tool.

Confirm that the newest kernel of Lee is the best!but in a few days he prepare a new awesome BFS kernel...

Mmm badly ****ed scheduler. My favourite.
If you want good quadrant, buy the paid app which gives higher scores than the free one. Do the I/O hack which core and lee droids use. Use Leedroid kernel at max freq, performance governor, and finally run it in airplane mode.
Follow all those steps and you will get around the 3000 score.
You should state if you use quadrant standard or advance when posting results as they do differ. Otherwise it's like comparing oranges to mandarins. They are both orange but one is always bigger.
Sent from my super slick Android device.

dr.m0x said:
Mmm badly ****ed scheduler. My favourite.
If you want good quadrant, buy the paid app which gives higher scores than the free one. Do the I/O hack which core and lee droids use. Use Leedroid kernel at max freq, performance governor, and finally run it in airplane mode.
Follow all those steps and you will get around the 3000 score.
You should state if you use quadrant standard or advance when posting results as they do differ. Otherwise it's like comparing oranges to mandarins. They are both orange but one is always bigger.
Sent from my super slick Android device.
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Yea it's just the standard version of quadrant, I thought that it would do the job.
Also i don't want to trick it or actually buy an app just so it can give me higher scores, that's not actually helping at all, i'll try the airplane mode to see if that helps, my phone is rapid anyway so it's only for my own satisfaction and to see how high i could get the score to go to.

Fastest Rom/kernel combo at the moment

any suggestions? I loved the speed and benchmarks i got from cm6/7.6 snap. Just wondering the highest quadrant scores going around right now for our beloved evo and how i can aquire the same. Im sure this has been talked about recently but thought id renew the subject. thanx!

I'm on cm7 nightly release 7 and I didn't get the same results in quadrant as I did in cm6 with snap Turbo. Right now in cm7 I get 1248 score.

quadrant changed something inside it, now it is limiting the score, or fixed the exploit that the evo used before. dunno which but scores have been slower across the board

NewZJ said:
quadrant changed something inside it, now it is limiting the score, or fixed the exploit that the evo used before. dunno which but scores have been slower across the board
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I don't put a lot in Quadrant scores, but it does kinda put a lil smile on your face when you bust the top. But I have noticed here the last week or two my scores are way lower. Sometimes lower than Evo 2.2
The best scores I ever had were with MIUI...

thunderwagn said:
I don't put a lot in Quadrant scores, but it does kinda put a lil smile on your face when you bust the top. But I have noticed here the last week or two my scores are way lower. Sometimes lower than Evo 2.2
The best scores I ever had were with MIUI...
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same here my quadrant score was at its highest with MIUI....

yeah i know it isnt worth much but it does put a nice smile on my face when i crack a high score. i remember with cm6/snap turbo 7.6 i was getting around 3000 or slightly higher, which was crazy. Now im lucky if i break the evo 2.2 one. It was just a thought, i know it doesnt mean much in the real world.

Still worthy app. Fun if nothing else I guess lol.
Give MIUI a whirl. Its got some nice speed and great battery life to boot!

Kinda the same as above. MIUI with Savage-Zen is pretty awesome scores...
However, i really dont care TOO much about scores, so i go by battery life and just responsiveness to my use.. and i am LOVING CM7 nightlies. Last one i flashed was #6 and seriously, this is the first time EVER i have had an AOSP rom as my daily driver...
give that a shot if you have CM6... i would try the Savaged-Zen 1.0 Kernel (cause i LOVE SBC) and see what you think... it really BLEW MY MIND!

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I'm on cm7 nightly release 7 and I didn't get the same results in quadrant as I did in cm6 with snap Turbo. Right now in cm7 I get 1248 score.
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Sorry if I sound dense, but are you saying CM6 is much faster than CM7? I'm not sure what the scores mean.

i used to get 1300 to 1400 with my stock rom but now cm7 build 23? nightly i get anywhere from 1500 to 1600, gonna flash the newest rom and see what happens

Add another vote for MIUI. Not only is it the fastest ROM with the highest benchmarks (which don't even matter), it also provides superior battery life and looks gorgeous.