any suggestions? I loved the speed and benchmarks i got from cm6/7.6 snap. Just wondering the highest quadrant scores going around right now for our beloved evo and how i can aquire the same. Im sure this has been talked about recently but thought id renew the subject. thanx!
I'm on cm7 nightly release 7 and I didn't get the same results in quadrant as I did in cm6 with snap Turbo. Right now in cm7 I get 1248 score.
quadrant changed something inside it, now it is limiting the score, or fixed the exploit that the evo used before. dunno which but scores have been slower across the board
NewZJ said:
quadrant changed something inside it, now it is limiting the score, or fixed the exploit that the evo used before. dunno which but scores have been slower across the board
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I don't put a lot in Quadrant scores, but it does kinda put a lil smile on your face when you bust the top. But I have noticed here the last week or two my scores are way lower. Sometimes lower than Evo 2.2
The best scores I ever had were with MIUI...
thunderwagn said:
I don't put a lot in Quadrant scores, but it does kinda put a lil smile on your face when you bust the top. But I have noticed here the last week or two my scores are way lower. Sometimes lower than Evo 2.2
The best scores I ever had were with MIUI...
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same here my quadrant score was at its highest with MIUI....
yeah i know it isnt worth much but it does put a nice smile on my face when i crack a high score. i remember with cm6/snap turbo 7.6 i was getting around 3000 or slightly higher, which was crazy. Now im lucky if i break the evo 2.2 one. It was just a thought, i know it doesnt mean much in the real world.
Still worthy app. Fun if nothing else I guess lol.
Give MIUI a whirl. Its got some nice speed and great battery life to boot!
Kinda the same as above. MIUI with Savage-Zen is pretty awesome scores...
However, i really dont care TOO much about scores, so i go by battery life and just responsiveness to my use.. and i am LOVING CM7 nightlies. Last one i flashed was #6 and seriously, this is the first time EVER i have had an AOSP rom as my daily driver...
give that a shot if you have CM6... i would try the Savaged-Zen 1.0 Kernel (cause i LOVE SBC) and see what you think... it really BLEW MY MIND!
DarkManX4lf said:
I'm on cm7 nightly release 7 and I didn't get the same results in quadrant as I did in cm6 with snap Turbo. Right now in cm7 I get 1248 score.
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Sorry if I sound dense, but are you saying CM6 is much faster than CM7? I'm not sure what the scores mean.
i used to get 1300 to 1400 with my stock rom but now cm7 build 23? nightly i get anywhere from 1500 to 1600, gonna flash the newest rom and see what happens
Add another vote for MIUI. Not only is it the fastest ROM with the highest benchmarks (which don't even matter), it also provides superior battery life and looks gorgeous.
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can someone please inform me how the tmobile galaxy s phone can reach quadrant scores of 2400 and im only pushing 1200
I've hit 2700 on my Evo my penor is HUGE!
haha funny i actually seen his quad score so i know its true
I wouldn't think too much of it. Cyanogen showed that the difference between 1200 and 40 gabillion in quadrant can be something as rediculous as the filesystem. I don't put much weight in those scores when comparing different phones.
http://briefmobile.com/cyanogen-demonstrates-quadrants-flaws
ok so other then cm what other rom/kernel would reduce lag and increase speed right now im trying fresh 3.3.0.1 with king kernel #9
jjarn said:
ok so other then cm what other rom/kernel would reduce lag and increase speed right now im trying fresh 3.3.0.1 with king kernel #9
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Why don't you try installing >>Snap 7.6 kernel on a Sense ROM and then try to enable TURBO? That'll *should* get you scores beyond 2000 but I'm not sure how well it works. >>Snap kernels are designed for CM ROMs ONLY and there is no support for installing a >>Snap kernel on a Sense ROM - but I've read about others who've done it. Maybe give that a try? I haven't done it so I won't be any help but I've read about it which means maybe it'll work for you.
Dude I really don't understand why you're so concerned with Quadrant scores. It's just a number.
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Dude I really don't understand why you're so concerned with Quadrant scores. It's just a number.
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Well, it does ultimately represent something. But unless you can see a real difference, I wouldn't care so much.
If your phone is snappy and smooth, it shouldn't matter what score you get in Quadrant. When I was on CM6 I was scoring 2000+, on Fresh I get around 1650 and I think my Evo is running way better with Fresh than it did with CM6.
well see ive tried fresh with the kings kernel and still not gettin that high i wanna try nets kernel but not sure which one is compatible i like baked but takes too long to boot i also like fresh
Have you tried the new official kernel? It's not going to give you crazy quadrant scores but it will make your battery last a lot longer + I think the way HTC lifted the cap makes it smoother than the custom kernels. It makes the phone more useful which IMHO is more important than Quadrant scores.
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thanks for providing me with my new signature!
hello all,
i was just curious, how come my quadrant scores are always so low (mid 1100s)? i know that's not terribly low, but it is not close to where the "evo benchers" site reports that they are. currently im using the new htc kernal, only becuase i have only seen minimal performance changes with kings or netarchy.
thank you!
when Evo first came out they were only mid 500's...
depends on rom you are running also i believe, i only got 1100-1200 running Sense roms with stock HTC Kernel.
With CM Nightlies + Snap7.6 + Turbo Mode + 1.2ghz setCPU .... math, lol, i have gone as high as 2600 on quadrant.
It's just a basic benchmark and unless you have the paid version that breaks down your score it isn't really a good thing to go by.
1100 is pretty standard with the new HTC kernel and a sense rom. I run VaelPak, trimmed some extra fat, and get 1350 with stock kernel, 1500 with kingx #10. So ill stick with the stock kernel, better battery life imo.
Hey... I think this thing makes phone calls too!
After alot of work and tweaking got my EVO to its highest quandrant yet..1585 and Linpack of 33.899 MFlops.
Always a great day when one has the full freedom to R&D something they purchased with their hard earned money without being shackled.
I use snap v7.6 w/turbo activated and just got 2483 , w/linpack 37.21
f10g44 said:
hello all,
i was just curious, how come my quadrant scores are always so low (mid 1100s)? i know that's not terribly low, but it is not close to where the "evo benchers" site reports that they are. currently im using the new htc kernal, only becuase i have only seen minimal performance changes with kings or netarchy.
thank you!
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My scores are worse. I avg around 1000, usually 900something
Look a page or two down and the very helpful and patient peopele here gave my several suggestions. I haven't tried any of them yet, but I will when I have more time.
Ive gotten 2700's a few time with snap and Cyanogen 6.1 OC'd of course.
Just wondering if anybody has tried this kernel yet? Found it over on AndroidMobileJunkie.com (Followed a link in somebody's sig here n XDA that said 1.28Ghz so naturally I was curious lol) Anyways, here's the link for the post over on AMJ. http://forum.androidmobilejunkie.com/threads/kernel-ziggy471-droid-incredible-22-oct.11/
yea ziggy's kernel. It's been in discussion in both of the Desire rom port threads. 1.28 is very rough on the processor though, and mostly unstable for a lot of people's phones (mine included), even ziggy admits it's a risky business, but he has proven it is possible.
I am so tempted to try this, but I'm afraid to fry my phone. My go big or go home mentality may make me give in. Wish there was someone who posted on the thread link
I ran it. No problems a 1.28 but really didn't use it long. Here's my Quadrant post in the Desire Z port thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8775977&postcount=168
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I'd imagine that clocking the processor that high wouldn't make much difference than say, 1.19GHz.
In fact, in plenty of ROMs I've tried, anything clocking over 1152mhz actually gives me a decrease in my quadrant scores. Not to say its not a stability issue - I'd assume that most Snapdragons actually clock higher than 998mhz, but then are reduced because that's baseline performance, anything less than 998mhz would get kicked.
I've never had a ROM crash, even running at 1.19GHz, but didn't notice any performance gains, plus, unless you just happen to get a chip that is capable of 1.28GHz no problem, it's probably near bottle-neck anyway.
And Quadrant has several variables way outside of clock speed that can pull 1800's, including just your flavor ROM.
Bottom Line: It's not worth frying your phone just for a barely-existent performance gain. If you happen to have a processor that is incapable of stability at 1.28GHz, you might fry out some transistors, then get stuck with something that freezes if you clock it over 700, let alone the 998 stock.
For me personally 1.28 is no improvement over 1.152. In fact, it gives me worse benchmarks.
sorry for repost
I gave this kernel a try and I actually prefer the newest HTC 2.6.32.17 charging time has significantly decreased battery life has increased and the performance is really responsive and smooth. My quadrant scores are nothing impressive pretty average but I would rather all of the above than a high quadrant.
I tried this kernal and my camera stopped working...
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I gave this kernel a try and I actually prefer the newest HTC 2.6.32.17 charging time has significantly decreased battery life has increased and the performance is really responsive and smooth. My quadrant scores are nothing impressive pretty average but I would rather all of the above than a high quadrant.
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Lou hit the nail on the head. I love the .17 kernel. Im using the new guy with great performance, battery life, charging, and neat transitions. its like a new phone.
I'm using this with a vanilla froyo ROM and my battery life is amazing. Haven't noticed any freezing or any program not working.
Wow!
Thanks for all the replies guys, I think for now I'm gonna stick with the stock kernel also, I just remember back when I used to run KxK's kernels seeing great benchmarks and battery life I was always wondering if there were any faster out there lol
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Thanks for all the replies guys, I think for now I'm gonna stick with the stock kernel also, I just remember back when I used to run KxK's kernels seeing great benchmarks and battery life I was always wondering if there were any faster out there lol
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There's always faster, the question is will they work. lol
When I'm running the newer Sense ports, HD or Z, I can only run 1.113, no matter how much or little voltage I give it. When I'm running an older one, I can go all the way up.
As for stability at 1.28G, I need to work on the voltage more, to find the sweet spot, I just did it 'cause Jugs said one of his Bravo buds had it working, so I had to try.
I'll keep playing with it if people are still interested, otherwise, I'll just keep at the lower speeds.
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Just loaded up your AOSP on Ruby 1.1.4. Running great, 1600 in Quad at 1ghz. Everything seems really smooth. Are the voltages undervolted at 1ghz? Maybe you could start your own thread?
Nevermind...found it!
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There's always faster, the question is will they work. lol
When I'm running the newer Sense ports, HD or Z, I can only run 1.113, no matter how much or little voltage I give it. When I'm running an older one, I can go all the way up.
As for stability at 1.28G, I need to work on the voltage more, to find the sweet spot, I just did it 'cause Jugs said one of his Bravo buds had it working, so I had to try.
I'll keep playing with it if people are still interested, otherwise, I'll just keep at the lower speeds.
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By the way, my post wasn't meant to disrespect your efforts to 1.28GHz, I'm just giving fair warning that someone could possibly burn out their phone if they jack it up all the way. When I'm ready for an upgrade, I'll probably put this thing to the max.
Thanks Ziggy
hajabooja said:
Just loaded up your AOSP on Ruby 1.1.4. Running great, 1600 in Quad at 1ghz. Everything seems really smooth. Are the voltages undervolted at 1ghz? Maybe you could start your own thread?
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What AOSP kernel??? I only see one kernel, and it references skyraider, which leads me to believe it is a sense kernel
edit: I am dumb. It is a different thread on the same site as listed above
http://forum.androidmobilejunkie.com/threads/kernel-ziggy471-droid-incredible-aosp-23-oct.24/
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By the way, my post wasn't meant to disrespect your efforts to 1.28GHz, I'm just giving fair warning that someone could possibly burn out their phone if they jack it up all the way. When I'm ready for an upgrade, I'll probably put this thing to the max.
Thanks Ziggy
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I didn't take it as such, and I agree with you fully. I prefer somewhere between 1.113 and 1.15. That's the reason I included the init script to set the max at 1.113, which I find very stable and fast, hell I'd say 1865 quad with ID's Z port isn't too shabby at 1.13.
I should be able to get 1.28 more stable with playing with the voltages, it's just that takes time, and I wasted too much this morning doing both AOSP INC and Evo kernels, so I'm worn out for awhile on kernels. I still need to fix the Evo for puertoblack, since it appears I left the debug port out, so no adb for it. lol
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Are we ever going to see quadrant scores like the hd2 is getting now ugh!!
A new rom has been imported to the hd2 that has it at 2800 quadrant score evo is better hardware and still at 1100-1500 whyyyy????
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Lol.
What is the benchmark going to do for you?
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What is the benchmark going to do for you?
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Then what does it mean and why does it even exist?
Where can I download this at
If you really want it, you can get CM6.0 here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/files/category/12-htc-evo/
and Snap 7.6 with Turbo here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733099
The current Snap only works with CM6.0 though which is a few versions behind, so you might as well wait though.
So the kernel is not universally compatible???
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So the kernel is not universally compatible???
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he did clearly say that it was only compatible with cm 6.0
no it is not universally compatible
the benchmark doesn't do anything for you anyway
Quadrant scores are a joke and easily manipulated, just look at CM6 with Snap Turbo. 2800 was my highest quadrant on it and speed was identical to all other roms.
Benchmark..Schmenchmark.....
The reason were all here is to improve the performance and functionality of our devices isn't it?? These scores are posted by every reviewer, manufacturers are giving us more powerful processors with each new device. Kernels and overclock tools are a staple in the dev community. How are these benchmarks not important? Sure they may not reflect the overall performance of the device in every case but if everyone viewed benchmark scores as useless data where would we be?? Not here trying to improve on them
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Quadrant scores are a joke and easily manipulated, just look at CM6 with Snap Turbo. 2800 was my highest quadrant on it and speed was identical to all other roms.
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This. Even Cyanogen stated that the quadrant scores are fudged. I read his post somewhere, it had something to do with cheating on the I/O portion of the test.
My EVO with MIUI gets around 1750 and performs as good or better than when I was scoring 2600+ with cm6 and snap turbo.
I know the Evo is an older phone but it still hold it's own and is sometimes the standard in which a benchmark has been made. I ALSO know that the quadrant score is just a placebo and not really something you go by to define your phones abilities.
That being said, I noticed on the quad test in the video area I was getting single to LOW double digit frame-rates. I didn't try this with the stock but I get the same results on Warm and on CM7. I use the quad test just for my personal use and a small ruler just to see what might have changed from Rom to Rom. The CM7 Rom on nightly 30 is fantastic but the video score is pushing out a 1000 quad score BELOW the Evo 2.2 marker. It also did the same when I tried out 26(maybe 25) so I know this is phone related somehow.
I'm not worried about speeding up the phone because it's snappy, I was more curious as to what the deal is with the video processing. Is this standard or fixable?
As you already stated Quadrant is a bit of a placebo. The bigger problem is that it is highly inaccurate with Gingergread. CM7 will get around 1000 because of this alone. This is not because of the graphics. Flash back to CM6 and rerun it, I was hitting 1700s with early Savage kernel (pre-zen-merger), the graphics scores aren't much better: the planets maxes around 45-50fps but the others rarely crack 20.
Another interesting thing I found. Run it twice. 2nd will always be higher. Might be a true score. Not sure why this is. I'm on CM7 but I did this on other ROMs.
You'll get higher scores on anything but CM7, but honestly the scores don't measure your performance.
I agree they don't and again I am not saying "why are my scores low". I am actually watching the video test and seeing FPS 9-18. I could care less what the end result is, I'll put my phone up to anyones phone in the same ballpark and I know it will blow away or hold it's own.
Is there another standalone more accurate video test?
I am coming from a Vibrant which was sick and I don't expect the same picture but 9FPS is not good for any phone.