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Both my Brother and I like the Sense UI, I am a big fan of Myn's Sense based ROM's after trying out the many other different ROM's based off CM 7, or other variants, I always come back to Sense.
Anyways been rocking Myn's RS 5 for months, my most favorite and stable ROM for me. I told my Brother he needs a good ROM, not just a standard root, he said he does have a good ROM, it's called HTC EVO 4G , meaning the stock phone, he doesn't see the point in what a sense based ROM could possibly add or do for him ?
What would you Sense ROM's guys/gals have to add or say to this ?
In my opinion, some roms might have a few tweaks in them but most of the roms that I see now are just themed stock roms.
I don't want to seem like I'm not giving credit to the devs for everything they do, but it seems like many "roms" should just be in the theme section as they are just built off some other devs work.
Zorachus said:
Both my Brother and I like the Sense UI, I am a big fan of Myn's Sense based ROM's after trying out the many other different ROM's based off CM 7, or other variants, I always come back to Sense.
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You are not alone and Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS-5 is one of my favorites and IS my favorite Sense rom.
Anyways been rocking Myn's RS 5 for months, my most favorite and stable ROM for me. I told my Brother he needs a good ROM, not just a standard root, he said he does have a good ROM, it's called HTC EVO 4G , meaning the stock phone, he doesn't see the point in what a sense based ROM could possibly add or do for him ?
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First of all, understand that his "stock phone" is Sense-based. HTC Sense comes default on the EVO 4G. Anyway, your brother seems to be totally satisfied with what he has and has no plans to switch. If that is the case, let him be. If he wasn't impressed with the classy and elegant look of Myn's rom then I doubt he'll be convinced to change from the stock Sense look....
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Been wondering the same thing....
For the most part, seems like I mine as well re-flash to stock sense. Remove whatever bloatware/etc and apply themes as I like. With maybe a kernel change.
In the end, thats all a "custom rom" is if Im not mistaken... Kernel + Themes, sometimes with a poor implementation that causes things to break.
cloud007 said:
Been wondering the same thing....
For the most part, seems like I mine as well re-flash to stock sense. Remove whatever bloatware/etc and apply themes as I like. With maybe a kernel change.
In the end, thats all a "custom rom" is if Im not mistaken... Kernel + Themes, sometimes with a poor implementation that causes things to break.
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Some roms are just themes, other roms have some tweaks to them. Usually, people use the framework from one developer and just theme it up. Some just use a stock rom and theme it up.
Its not fair to some developers to say that they have not tweaked their rom at all but just add some color and a battery percentage indicator or a splash screen.
Taking a Sense 2.0 rom from one device and porting it over to a device that came defaulted with Sense 1.0 and making it work is more than merely adding themes. Furthermore, many of the talented devs started out by merely customizing their devices to suit their personal tastes, hence the name "custom" roms. Other people liked their customization which prompted them to make it available to anyone who wanted it. Still, custom roms are not for everyone. Guys like Myn, xHAUSx, Koni, TommyTomatoe and a boatload of others are very talented at what they do and should be recognized as such...at least in my opinion...
surrealmethod said:
Some roms are just themes, other roms have some tweaks to them. Usually, people use the framework from one developer and just theme it up. Some just use a stock rom and theme it up.
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Sure, but what kinda tweaks are we talking about? Thats what Im asking more or less.
CM for instance, to me, feels like a stock AOSP rom with their custom Kernel. They obviously did a good bit more by customizing the kernel n such, but as I said before... I could just flash their kernel + use whatever themes I want, no?
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Its not fair to some developers to say that they have not tweaked their rom at all but just add some color and a battery percentage indicator or a splash screen.
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My understanding is that battery indicator, boot animations, etc fall into the theme category.
Stock vs Rooted:
Rooted ROMs are optimized.
Better A2SD functionality.
Better battery life.
FREE WIFI TETHERING!
No bloatware.
Ability to theme.
Ability to do a LOT more things with your phone. Change lockscreens etc.
Ability to get full HDMI mirroring.
Sense vs AOSP:
AOSP is usually faster as Sense takes up space.
Sense has better widgets.
AOSP + 3rd party launcher like Launcher Pro + Beautiful widgets can give you the same things as Sense with a performance gain.
Landscape functionality for homescreens
Sense is a launcher. There are launcher replacements such as LauncherPro, ADW, and SPB Shell 3D. LauncherPro and ADW are more a lot faster than HTC is. LauncherPro has widgets for calendar and Friends which is similar to Sense. Beautiful widgets can give you a Sense like clock and weather animations.
sekigah84 said:
Stock vs Rooted:
Rooted ROMs are optimized.
Better A2SD functionality.
Better battery life.
FREE WIFI TETHERING!
No bloatware.
Ability to theme.
Ability to do a LOT more things with your phone. Change lockscreens etc.
Ability to get full HDMI mirroring.
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Are the roms optimized or is the Kenerel optimized? That was my original question . Thus far, roms feel like UI packages with a kernel of the devs choice.
If Im not mistaken... battery life would be dependent on the Kernel, not the rom.
Stock vs Rooted was never a question. Im running Warm2.2 atm and considering going back to Rooted Stock (as the OPs brother has done).
As my Stock will be rooted, I wont have bloatware. I will be able to theme, mirror HDMI, change lockscreens/bootanimations,etc
Sense vs AOSP:
AOSP is usually faster as Sense takes up space.
Sense has better widgets.
AOSP + 3rd party launcher like Launcher Pro + Beautiful widgets can give you the same things as Sense with a performance gain.
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CM7 RC3 is the only AOSP rom I used. Used it for a week then moved back to a sense rom. My main gripes with it were the lousy Dialer, Widgets, and I dont really care for the camera UI either. However someone in IRC pointed me to the GO Dialer, in turn I found Go Weather, Go SMS, Go Launcher... these have all solved most of my gripes, with the exception of the Dialer. CM7 RC3 also seemed to be rather batter hungry and always had an annoying notification about dialing *28 for voicemail when I had none.
Aside from this, don't AOSP roms also lack some core functionality that Sense roms have? I don't remember the specifics, but IIRC, no HDMI, many lack 4G, etc.
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Taking a Sense 2.0 rom from one device and porting it over to a device that came defaulted with Sense 1.0 and making it work is more than merely adding themes. Furthermore, many of the talented devs started out by merely customizing their devices to suit their personal tastes, hence the name "custom" roms. Other people liked their customization which prompted them made it available to anyone who wanted it. Still, custom roms are not for everyone. Guys like Myn, xHAUSx, Koni, TommyTomatoe and a boatload of others are very talented at what they do and should be recognized as such...at least in my opinion...
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Good post, I agree
dougjamal said:
Taking a Sense 2.0 rom from one device and porting it over to a device that came defaulted with Sense 1.0 and making it work is more than merely adding themes. Furthermore, many of the talented devs started out by merely customizing their devices to suit their personal tastes, hence the name "custom" roms. Other people liked their customization which prompted them to make it available to anyone who wanted it. Still, custom roms are not for everyone. Guys like Myn, xHAUSx, Koni, TommyTomatoe and a boatload of others are very talented at what they do and should be recognized as such...at least in my opinion...
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I also totally agree with this. It should also be noted that along with an upgraded sense, some of these other ROMs give you an update to Gingerbread. Just something else to take into consideration when it comes to reasons for switching ROMs.
cloud007 said:
Are the roms optimized or is the Kenerel optimized? That was my original question . Thus far, roms feel like UI packages with a kernel of the devs choice.
If Im not mistaken... battery life would be dependent on the Kernel, not the rom.
Stock vs Rooted was never a question. Im running Warm2.2 atm and considering going back to Rooted Stock (as the OPs brother has done).
As my Stock will be rooted, I wont have bloatware. I will be able to theme, mirror HDMI, change lockscreens/bootanimations,etc
Sense vs AOSP:
AOSP is usually faster as Sense takes up space.
Sense has better widgets.
AOSP + 3rd party launcher like Launcher Pro + Beautiful widgets can give you the same things as Sense with a performance gain.
Landscape functionality for homescreens
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CM7 RC3 is the only AOSP rom I used. Used it for a week then moved back to a sense rom. My main gripes with it were the lousy Dialer, Widgets, and I dont really care for the camera UI either. However someone in IRC pointed me to the GO Dialer, in turn I found Go Weather, Go SMS, Go Launcher... these have all solved most of my gripes, with the exception of the Dialer. CM7 RC3 also seemed to be rather batter hungry and always had an annoying notification about dialing *28 for voicemail when I had none.
Aside from this, don't AOSP roms also lack some core functionality that Sense roms have? I don't remember the specifics, but IIRC, no HDMI, many lack 4G, etc.[/QUOTE]
In the past yes. I was on a sense based ROM for awhile but constantly switched between that and CM. Finally when CM7 reverse engineered 4G and HDMI, I've been rocking that out like it's going out of style. I just love how speedy and responsive it is. Thought honestly, in my opinion, if you put enough widgets and crap on the home screens like there are in Sense based ROMs the speed will even out. Just from what I've experienced though.
Ok, so I am a sammy freak, been leeching the boards for a while now, but just signed up in the past day, but throughout all of my research and queries I am unable to find a rom that is Tablet UI based on Touchwiz but could incorporate the Paranoid Android DPI density solution.
I know of the Hydra Rom, but not sure if the above can be added to it....
SO...., My real question is there anyone/anyway to compile something of this sort with ICS framework?
I really just want to get the TW SII or SIII music player, mms on a tablet, but AOKP/AOSP and CM9 do not support.
If I am crazy just say so!
It's a pretty basic question that I haven't been able to find an answer for.
I really like the Samsung/TouchWiz Dialer/Contacts compared to the AOSP Dialer/Contacts, as it feels more "at home" coming from an iPhone, plus it has tons of nice features.
So my question is, is it possible to replace the Dialer/Contacts on an AOSP ROM with the Samsung one? It's the only thing keeping me from fully switching to an AOSP ROM, because it's way too basic for a light phone call user like myself.
Bump, noone has any idea?
I have a hunch that it's probably tied to some Samsung frameworks so it may not be possible.
In a word, no. All of the Samsung apps require the TouchWiz framework which is obviously absent in the AOSP builds.
Your best bet would be to find a stock based ROM that you like. Why use AOSP if you like most of what TouchWiz is offering?
I was trying to say the opposite actually. I like everything about AOSP ROMs better except for the Dialer/Contacts, which is very featureless.
The closest things I've been able to find are TouchPal Contacts and exDialer, so I may consider switching at some point.
Ah I see. There are definitely a few places where the TouchWiz apps excel. For me, that would be the calendar. It was a little cluttered but far more functional. As for the dialer and contacts, I never really use them all that much, so I'm not missing much there. The slide to talk/text was nice, but I dialed from contacts so rarely that I always forgot which direction was which.
Your Answer might lie here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728308
I hated the messaging and calendar app in touch wiz, so doing this allows me to keep some touch wiz and other go pure google
Its_Dave said:
Your Answer might lie here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728308
I hated the messaging and calendar app in touch wiz, so doing this allows me to keep some touch wiz and other go pure google
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Not quite. Replacing the TouchWiz apps with the default ones works because the framework is present. Going the other way does not work, since all of the TouchWiz apps depend on the TouchWiz framework which is obviously absent in the AOSP/AOKP builds.
Ahh Blah, I miss read, sorry about that.
any new good news about doing so ? I relly miss my big buttons dialer from samsung rom at ASOP
Hey guys, sorry to noob it up.
I'm currently on an OG Epic running toadlife's final build of CleanGB. I'm due for an upgrade, and I'm considering the S3. It's been a while since I've tinkered with my phone because it runs so well, and I enjoy Toad's approach as it aligns well with how I think my phone should look and function. My ideal feature set is:
- Touchwiz JB based, because it's already optimized for the hardware. In my limited experience, ROMs based on the manufacturer source seem to have longer battery life, better stability, and a full feature set that already works. Things like:
- Stock camera (yes, with the silent mod)
- Sprint VVM
- Hotspot
- Customizable toggles.
-Minimal or no theming. Theming seems to be the quickest way to make the phone feel tacky and fragmented. I love the look of stock AOSP ICS and JB, the same way I enjoy a minimalist Gingerbread. Things like the AOSP dialer, SMS, lockscreen, keyboard, and icons seem to pull it together and make it look excellent.
- Blacked out or inverted apps like AOSP SMS, Gmail, Youtube, etc... looks cool, doesn't require any crazy theming, and saves some juice on that screen.
I was bummed to find out that the Foxhound ROM is only built for the international version, as I think it fits the bill of what I'd be looking for. Can anyone recommend a ROM based on these criteria? And yes, I know I don't have much to contribute as an end-user. I still think this community's a great place to hang out and get the most use out of these phones. Thanks guys.
I like blazer Rom
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Can't go wrong with either freeza's fre3 or clark44's FreeGS3 ROM.
From what I have seen what you want does not exist. The closest is either run CM10.1 (pretty stable feels like a daily rom until you find a bug) or run one of the stock based roms with ICS theme but it doesnt feel very complete IMO.
I have been looking for the same thing you are. I even found the foxhound rom today but like you said its not on US versions.
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Hey guys, sorry to noob it up.
I'm currently on an OG Epic running toadlife's final build of CleanGB. I'm due for an upgrade, and I'm considering the S3. It's been a while since I've tinkered with my phone because it runs so well, and I enjoy Toad's approach as it aligns well with how I think my phone should look and function. My ideal feature set is:
- Touchwiz JB based, because it's already optimized for the hardware. In my limited experience, ROMs based on the manufacturer source seem to have longer battery life, better stability, and a full feature set that already works. Things like:
- Stock camera (yes, with the silent mod)
- Sprint VVM
- Hotspot
- Customizable toggles.
-Minimal or no theming. Theming seems to be the quickest way to make the phone feel tacky and fragmented. I love the look of stock AOSP ICS and JB, the same way I enjoy a minimalist Gingerbread. Things like the AOSP dialer, SMS, lockscreen, keyboard, and icons seem to pull it together and make it look excellent.
- Blacked out or inverted apps like AOSP SMS, Gmail, Youtube, etc... looks cool, doesn't require any crazy theming, and saves some juice on that screen.
I was bummed to find out that the Foxhound ROM is only built for the international version, as I think it fits the bill of what I'd be looking for. Can anyone recommend a ROM based on these criteria? And yes, I know I don't have much to contribute as an end-user. I still think this community's a great place to hang out and get the most use out of these phones. Thanks guys.
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Your coming from the OG epic... So why not try The Peoples Rom.. Several launcher choices (Aroma installer) overall can have it how you want it. There is also a full out Edition.. (The Fat Ass Cartmen edition By Naddict) Either i recommend.. Specially if your familiar with Kennyglass123's OG epic work. Same great taste, Less Filling! Best thing you can do, is cruise through the threads see if something gets your attention. And custimization on those roms above.. Visit Morphology Thread by Romnpit.
Morphology: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968724
The People's Rom (Original) : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013463
The People's Rom (Fat Ass Cartman Edition): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013463
DISCLAIMER: Please see original thread for above links for thanks to those who did the difficult task of creating these wonderful master pieces.
Since getting my Note 2, I've only stuck with Touchwiz-based ROMS, but I really like the stock Android experience and I'm wondering what I'd be losing by moving to an AOSP-based rom.
Obviously, most of the pen features would be gone, but with apps like GMD SPen Control, third-party note taking apps, third-party multi-window and way better launchers (I use Nova now anyways)... what extra stuff do I loose that I might regret? I use the camera a lot on this phone, and even with about 6 third-party camera apps that I've purchased, I still like the Samsung stock camera app.
So before I jump, have any of you moved to a stock rom and regretted it? Why?
Camera isn't as good - slower to focus, burst mode isn't as good.
I rarely use S-pen, so can't really comment on that.
Most keyboards out there don't have a separate number row - there is a hacked version of the Google keyboard on here though.
Can't really think of much else - about the only thing I actually miss is call recording. If you take the plunge, I think SOKP is a very good place to start. Great customisations, good support.
In my experience AOSP roms have a little worse battery life than touchwiz.Elsewise there isn't really much to lose.
If you have a bit of trouble making up your mind you use Devil kernel dual boot.
This way you can have both AOSP 4.4 and Touchwiz 4.3 (no official 4.4 yet).
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Damn. I guess ill be sticking with a touchwiz rom. Looks like I'll loose more than I'll gain. Thanks for the replies.
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yeah I alwasys seem to come back to the TW roms ... I like the pen features alot...
and with custom 4.4 TW rom coming very soon for t0lte (n7105) I will be very happy.
vanilla kitkat roms are very nice otherwise.
I think you also lose HDMI out and you have to format your sdcard to FAT32.
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