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Hello everyone,
HTC is about to release the official Android 2.1 Rom.
I would like to ask whether I can still root the HTC Hero if I upgrade to that official Rom.
Any comments are welcome. Thankyou very much.
Most definitely not. Wait for a rooted version of the rom here on XDA.
This was discussed before. You cannot. But it will not take more than 10 minutes for 'hackers' to change the official update so you can still have your root on the exact same day as it comes out. At least, this is what they promised.
prodygee said:
This was discussed before. You cannot. But it will not take more than 10 minutes for 'hackers' to change the official update so you can still have your root on the exact same day as it comes out. At least, this is what they promised.
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Will the hacked version be the same as the official HTC one, but with root access? or will we have missing things and things that don't work (like some of the current 2.1 roms )
You won't be missing anything .
mrbubba999 said:
Will the hacked version be the same as the official HTC one, but with root access? or will we have missing things and things that don't work (like some of the current 2.1 roms )
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the current 2.1 roms are only missing things (although barely anything at all) because they are either based on leaks or based on roms from other devices.
Once the official 2.1 comes out there will be loads of official but rooted roms available, all that will be done is to preserve the root access nothing else will be changed.
Lennyuk said:
the current 2.1 roms are only missing things (although barely anything at all) because they are either based on leaks or based on roms from other devices.
Once the official 2.1 comes out there will be loads of official but rooted roms available, all that will be done is to preserve the root access nothing else will be changed.
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A proper, up-to-date GSM HERO kernel would be nice.. that's what we are missing the most now
Run the RUU, DON'T confirm flashing, search for update.zip or rom.zip in your temp folder, unzip, add/replace su to /system/bin, add superuser.apk to /system/app, rezip, sign, flash.
You might need to add the appropriate certificate to /system/etc/security.
It's as easy as that.
current 2.1 roms are not really useable
Lennyuk said:
the current 2.1 roms are only missing things (although barely anything at all) because they are either based on leaks or based on roms from other devices.
Once the official 2.1 comes out there will be loads of official but rooted roms available, all that will be done is to preserve the root access nothing else will be changed.
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Well if that is true I am growing less excited about 2.1's official release because in general I am VERY unimpressed by 2.1 for Hero. Ive tried almost all cook's roms, and every one of them starts off perky and becomes VERY sluggish after a few days... to the point that I cannot even answer a call sometimes because the phone rings and rings and is not responding to my pressing the Left key or dragging the lock screen bar down to answer. Very frustrating and a bit scary to imagine the current crop of Roms are close to the release version.
My current rom is my favourite but just missed a call from my wife this afternoon...REALLY annoying considering the phone had been in my pocket doing nothing for hours!
Mark.
' missed a call from my wife this afternoon'.... thats WHY i have the roms... hehehe
Ian_4614 said:
' missed a call from my wife this afternoon'.... thats WHY i have the roms... hehehe
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yeah yeah, but *most* the time i acutally DO want the phone to be able to pick up!
ive had to restrain myself from slamming it against the wall sometimes...
Does the stock roms not have the answer lag then? Flashed to a custom Rom pretty much same day I got the phone so Im not sure
livegod said:
yeah yeah, but *most* the time i acutally DO want the phone to be able to pick up!
ive had to restrain myself from slamming it against the wall sometimes...
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That really is your own fault. You can't judge 2.1 for Hero by the unofficial ported ROMs from other devices and hardware bases and then go on complain about the fact that they aren't up to par since they can't be up to par.
They're hacks, attempts at trying to get a working 2.1 built as best they can until HTC releases a fully functional and optimised build for the Hero.
If you can't deal with that, then get back on a MoDaCo ROM based on the official 1.5 firmware and wait for an official rooted 2.1 ROM.
wait for modaco 4!
the current 2.1 roms are only missing things (although barely anything at all) because they are either based on leaks or based on roms from other devi
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Well if that is true I am growing less excited about 2.1's official release because in general I am VERY unimpressed by 2.1 for Hero. Ive tried almost all cook's roms, and every one of them starts off perky and becomes VERY sluggish after a few days... to the point that I cannot even answer a call sometimes because the phone rings and rings and is not responding to my pressing the Left key or dragging the lock screen bar down to answer. Very frustrating and a bit scary to imagine the current crop of Roms are close to the release version.
My current rom is my favourite but just missed a call from my wife this afternoon...REALLY annoying considering the phone had been in my pocket doing nothing for hours!
Mark.
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have you not tried restarting the phone every once In a while?
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i have that same issue, its rediculously frustrating. are you using the BeHero rom? i have so many problems its untrue. it hangs all the time, keyboard sticks whilst typing and apps take ages to load as well as not being able to abswer calls properly
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By the way..
I am using ChapaTop<?> or something like that ROM its in French language.. you can change the rom language after you set up..
so why i use this rom?
its base on Legend
got eclair lockscreen!!
Roise
fast quite fast. <not to an extent of that Villain5.2>
the rom zip file is only 85+mb which means after you install you can ample mobile phone space
want to download already?
http://www.multiupload.com/S33R1MO1O2
the installation steps are the same as normal ones.
NANDROID
FULL WIPE
FLASH
BOOT
ENJOY.
It's a good time to be a desire owner these days.
The roms just keeps popping out day after another.
Question is, which one is the fastest, most stable, best one?
I think a poll is in place.
Please only vote if you've actually tried them all.
ROM Links:
InsertCoin: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940
RCMix S: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988570
Ace/Vision S: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1018843
Also, if you found one not listed here, please elaborate.
And I think replying to this thread with your personal reviews of your favorite one with pro's and con's against the others would be appreciated too.
Happy flashing!
Tried 2 of them robo and Baadnewz v similar but TBH no video camera,no trackball wake then none of them is the ****
InsertCoin v1 was running very sweet for me but for some reason updated versions caused problems,probably my fault couldn't be bothered with a full wipe currently using RCMix Sv08 very happy with that apart from the 2 points mentioned above and the lack of a menu function to swap from 2G to 3G easily signal,GPS,battery life all great compass i think borked but i never use it
I selected the rcmix S, because for now it's the only one I tested, and what I can say is that it is really fast for normal use. Compared to version rcmixHD
For other ROMs, they seem to be all good as each other. The developers follow the well updated and are listening to users. The user feedback at speed and bug are equivalent for all roms.
You guys did a great job! Thank you for all your work for our small desires.
ziggy1001 said:
Tried 2 of them robo and Baadnewz v similar but TBH no video camera,no trackball wake then none of them is the ****
InsertCoin v1 was running very sweet for me but for some reason updated versions caused problems,probably my fault couldn't be bothered with a full wipe currently using RCMix Sv08 very happy with that apart from the 2 points mentioned above and the lack of a menu function to swap from 2G to 3G easily signal,GPS,battery life all great compass i think borked but i never use it
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Camera is fixed in both, lag is fixed in insertcoint.
There are solutions for both roms to get the extra settings working in quick menu. (use search in thread)
There are solutions for both roms to get trackballwake(guides, search in threads).
-video rec. still down
-compas still down
anyhow, my 2 cents.. their both great! I picked insertcoin, not alot of difference between the 2 roms.. but in time that will change imo..
but for now, both very viable! havent tried ace & vision roms yet
In general I agree on:
skippy68220 said:
You guys did a great job! Thank you for all your work for our small desires.
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Srkineo said:
There are solutions for both roms to get trackballwake(guides, search in threads).
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Interesting i have home& menu wake working but not reliably, but didn't see any options for trackball, looks like i'll have to spend even more time searching XDA
Srkineo said:
Camera is fixed in both, lag is fixed in insertcoint.
There are solutions for both roms to get the extra settings working in quick menu. (use search in thread)
There are solutions for both roms to get trackballwake(guides, search in threads).
-video rec. still down
-compas still down
anyhow, my 2 cents.. their both great! I picked insertcoin, not alot of difference between the 2 roms.. but in time that will change imo..
but for now, both very viable! havent tried ace & vision roms yet
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Yes, as you noticed there are almost no differences in our roms, what i can see when i diff the roms is that only thing changed is the ril and some apps removed from insertcoin... so i dont know what is causing lag in my rom :/ strange... should be the same... It can be the plurk which he removed and i still have in my rom (possible memory leak in that app), i will check that when i come back from my vacation, now i am working on A2SD version of v08.
have a nice day everyone
robocik said:
Yes, as you noticed there are almost no differences in our roms, what i can see when i diff the roms is that only thing changed is the ril and some apps removed from insertcoin... so i dont know what is causing lag in my rom :/ strange... should be the same... It can be the plurk which he removed and i still have in my rom (possible memory leak in that app), i will check that when i come back from my vacation, now i am working on A2SD version of v08.
have a nice day everyone
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well i don't know where the lag appears, i changed the rils, modded init.rc, changed all wpa related files with the ones from gb leak in an effort to fix some wifi problems, i removed some files, fonts, and moved lib_s to /system/lib.
Problem with my roms later than v01 is flash player 10.2, problem that is also on my froyo roms. and i have no clue how to fix it, thou in robo's roms the problem doesnt exists, plurk i removed from v04 so users should tell if that did the trick or not.
And as mentioned before, robocik did the hard - porting - hacking part. without this we wouldn't have a sense 2.1 rom.
btw, anyone have a clue why compass is acting strange? not that i ever use it, but some users need it
Hmmm its too difficult to compare 3 roms...coz me n baadnewz using same base even features is 100% same...only difference between tweaking n optimization...
But my vote for RCmixS coz robo is the first person who port sense 2.1 Rom...
Sent From Nokia 3310...!!!
If you look at the SuperDuperAwesomeROM v0.3 by eddyOS isn't that 2.33 Gb with an earlier version of Sense but made for the Desire, not a port and people say compass doesn't work, so maybe HTC cockup?
baadnewz said:
well i don't know where the lag appears, i changed the rils, modded init.rc, changed all wpa related files with the ones from gb leak in an effort to fix some wifi problems, i removed some files, fonts, and moved lib_s to /system/lib.
Problem with my roms later than v01 is flash player 10.2, problem that is also on my froyo roms. and i have no clue how to fix it, thou in robo's roms the problem doesnt exists, plurk i removed from v04 so users should tell if that did the trick or not.
And as mentioned before, robocik did the hard - porting - hacking part. without this we wouldn't have a sense 2.1 rom.
btw, anyone have a clue why compass is acting strange? not that i ever use it, but some users need it
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try to take my flash player and libs... uploading my A2SD rom, i have changed some flash stuff, we'll see if it helps for the users... have not tried it myself yet.
my users are reporting some calling issues, is that caused by the ril? i am using the one from the leaked rom... i think anyway hehe dont remember anymore.
need to run now. A2SD+ is on the way up.
ziggy1001 said:
If you look at the SuperDuperAwesomeROM v0.3 by eddyOS isn't that 2.33 Gb with an earlier version of Sense but made for the Desire, not a port and people say compass doesn't work, so maybe HTC cockup?
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if the compass problem is in the bravo leak then yes is a problem from HTC. But again the leak is a TEST Build so problems are expected.
robocik said:
try to take my flash player and libs... uploading my A2SD rom, i have changed some flash stuff, we'll see if it helps for the users... have not tried it myself yet.
my users are reporting some calling issues, is that caused by the ril? i am using the one from the leaked rom... i think anyway hehe dont remember anymore.
need to run now. A2SD+ is on the way up.
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i took them in v04 /lib/plugins but still nogo, will keep investigating but same as you I'm on vacation with my family. After Easter I'll have more time
I think its leedroid 2.3.3
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I think its leedroid 2.3.3
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read the thread question before posting ****! btw currently running insertcoin S v04, no problems at all, removed plurk and stocks, also thinking about removing peep but I don't know how will this affect the UI(friendswidget for example). Peep is also using a lot of memory.
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read the thread question before posting ****! btw currently running insertcoin S v04, no problems at all, removed plurk and stocks, also thinking about removing peep but I don't know how will this affect the UI(friendswidget for example). Peep is also using a lot of memory.
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if u remove peep, friend stream will stll work but it will show only facebook updates
would like to vote for
RC-MIX
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InsertCoin as both of them feel very good in allday work situation
gave my vote to I-Coin cause i used it longer but now im on RCmix V8 and think i will stay there (top)
thx to Robo for making new STUFF available for our/my Desire
i couldnt find any way to get trackballwake on gb sense roms,i searched a lot.
Would someone plz be so nice to show where to get a flashable zip for it.
Why don't you three musketeers join forces to focus on just one bad ass rom?
I experienced slowdowns when I flashed the vorkmod of rcmix s 0.7, no slowdowns anymore after going back to the original rcmix s. I suspect it's some of these extra modules added (undervolt or a different governor)
btw my compass works quite well
Is anyone having problems with autobrightness (ie brightness suddenly going up and down again?)
oh my vote goes to robocik for now
On insertcoin, the WiFi randomly disconnects when the signal is low. Does this happen on other ROMs?
325i. said:
On insertcoin, the WiFi randomly disconnects when the signal is low. Does this happen on other ROMs?
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the wi-fi problem on insertcoin seems to be fixed now. check you wi-fi sleep policy. but i seem to have a little problem. from the day i got my desire i used switchpro widget. i use it now also but now i can't make the flashlight work(the flash doesn't turn on). does anyone know a fix for this problem?
hi all
I finally decided to give some new life to my HTC Desire, rooted it, S-OFFed it as well and after long search for most suitable ROM for me, flashed Cool Droid v3 Bravo on it.
ROM looks great and works fine, but it has only one big issue (so far) - I cannot turn on data roaming, it is turned off by default and tweaked to stay that way. As a noob, obviously I cannot post this question in specific thread about that ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1279016 so I have to ask here:
is there any fix for it, an advice or procedure how to change the script (I figured out that it's just a line in build.prop file but it doesn't allows me to change it). I'm not scared to tinker with it as long as it's not too complicated and makes sense.
I need it because I live in Europe, travel a lot and I use national roaming very often.
Please if anyone can help me, because this issue is a dealbreaker for me with this ROM and I'd hate that.
Thanks in advance
PS: the screenshot shows how the setting stays no matter what option I choose
Install a rom that hasnt got a lot of Verizon stuff in it.
I would, if I can find fast, stable and reliable ROM, based on GB and preferably with Sense on it.
I'm not into flashing new ROM every few days and trying out every custom ROM out there, I just need my phone to work well within its capabilities as I travel a lot and use it for work.
I guess that this data roaming issue shouldn't be too complicated to solve, it's a piece of cake for every developer...
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I would, if I can find fast, stable and reliable ROM, based on GB and preferably with Sense on it.
I'm not into flashing new ROM every few days and trying out every custom ROM out there, I just need my phone to work well within its capabilities as I travel a lot and use it for work.
I guess that this data roaming issue shouldn't be too complicated to solve, it's a piece of cake for every developer...
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Runnymede AIO v6.0.4.3 stable is probably as close as u will come.
hmm.. I'll check it out, thanks
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Runnymede AIO v6.0.4.3 stable is probably as close as u will come.
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well, I flashed this rom and been testing it last few days. It has pretty much all that I need but I find it quite heavy on my device. Too many times it slows down, lags and freezes, especially when running games and apps that need syncing. Also, quite a lot FCs. Battery drain is also significant.
I'm not sure where exactly the problem is, it just gets stuck with black screen and only notification bar is visible.
Any advice where to look at? Might it be kernel, radio or CPU issue?
thanks
A tip for ya when flashing that rom. When u first install it from recovery and reboot, when it boots past bootanimation and gets to the lockring.... Leave it settle for 15-20 mins, dont unlock. Then after 15-20 mins unlock then reboot. Then no force close, sounds mad but its true. U could try a different kernal, Droidzone has a few good 1s for sense 3.5 roms and also in settings/RCMix tweaks, u can fix permissions there, try that, it sometimes fixes force close. Im using Aurora v6 special edition, its android 2.3.5 and sense 3 and not 1 problem so far, great rom infact. Saying that, Runnymede aio s.e is my personal favourite sense 3.5 and never had any problems with it, but letting it settle for 15-20 mins is a must.
About the radio.... What do u have? Lastest is recommended.
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Runnymede AIO V6.0.4.3 SE is freezing
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A tip for ya when flashing that rom. When u first install it from recovery and reboot, when it boots past bootanimation and gets to the lockring.... Leave it settle for 15-20 mins, dont unlock. Then after 15-20 mins unlock then reboot. Then no force close, sounds mad but its true. U could try a different kernal, Droidzone has a few good 1s for sense 3.5 roms and also in settings/RCMix tweaks, u can fix permissions there, try that, it sometimes fixes force close. Im using Aurora v6 special edition, its android 2.3.5 and sense 3 and not 1 problem so far, great rom infact. Saying that, Runnymede aio s.e is my personal favourite sense 3.5 and never had any problems with it, but letting it settle for 15-20 mins is a must.
About the radio.... What do u have? Lastest is recommended.
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I followed that flashing procedure pretty much, I was gentle and easy going right after flashing it, not rushing anything, left it to settle (maybe not 20 mins) and rebooted it again. Actually, FCs are not such a big issue like freezing. Usually 1fc comes on 5 freezes. My radio is 5.11.05.27, I haven't touched it since rooting the phone with Revolutionary. I kinda hesitate to flash it, I don't want to brick my device because I'm not sure about the right procedure.
As my name says, I'm just an ordinary noob, not too experienced with all this.
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Did u do a full wipe before flashing.
Runnymede AIO V6.0.4.3 SE is freezing
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Did u do a full wipe before flashing.
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I did a full wipe, formatting and partitioning SD card from the scratch (fat32 partition included), 4ext is 1GB... I did all following developer's recommended procedure step by step. SD card is brand new SanDisk 8 GB, class 6.
It works well after reboot, but after a while, as soon as several apps are opened, it lags and hangs heavily, making the phone unusable.
I'm not sure does it matter, but I moved all movable apps to "phone storage", except those that have widgets that I use. Yet, the phone still freezes even when using non-movable apps.
I'd flash it again right now but I get messed up contacts list every time because not all my contacts are on google and I have 1000+ in total, so after every restore I get many duplicates and triplicates, so I'd really like a solution that doesn't include another flashing.
Here is a better tip. Don't use sense 3+ if you want reliability. I recommend cool bravo s, but change the kernel.
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Here is a better tip. Don't use sense 3+ if you want reliability. I recommend cool bravo s, but change the kernel.
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Iv no problems at all, using sense 3.0 right now, 1 of the best roms iv ever used.
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Iv no problems at all, using sense 3.0 right now, 1 of the best roms iv ever used.
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So your telling me that you have no fcs, no lags, especially when receiving a call, no battery drains? Do you use your phone? I'm not trying to be rude or anything, I really want to know, because every sense 3+ rom I had wasn't 100%. Which rom are you using right now?
Runnymede AIO V6.0.4.3 SE is freezing
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So your telling me that you have no fcs, no lags, especially when receiving a call, no battery drains? Do you use your phone? I'm not trying to be rude or anything, I really want to know, because every sense 3+ rom I had wasn't 100%. Which rom are you using right now?
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I'd like to stick with this rom.. I do have lags but not when receiving a call, that's why I suppose that I just have to do some detailed tweaking and that's where I need help as I'm not experienced with it. FCs are actually not so bad, pretty much the same as I had them on my stock froyo so I can live with that. Battery drain is there though, but I've been using the phone intensively since flashing RM AIO, trying to set it up.
Can maybe someone post here proper radio/kernel/CPU settings please?
My device is amoled version, with 5.11.05.27 radio and 2.6.35.10 [email protected] #11 kernel
CPU settings are untouched after flashing the rom, so they are "default".
thanks
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So your telling me that you have no fcs, no lags, especially when receiving a call, no battery drains? Do you use your phone? I'm not trying to be rude or anything, I really want to know, because every sense 3+ rom I had wasn't 100%. Which rom are you using right now?
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Aurora v6 special edition. No lag, no fc, battery is great, obviously its not as good as AOSP. And yes i use my phone, im using it now writing this
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Aurora v6 special edition. No lag, no fc, battery is great, obviously its not as good as AOSP. And yes i use my phone, im using it now writing this
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How long have you been using it?
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How long have you been using it?
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Lol not long but plan on sticking with it. Im using a Droidzone kernal, OC set to min 245 and max 998 Smartassv2 and cpu set to the same with ondemand. Like i dont play games on my phone, i just use it for phone calls msgs and internet (usuall stuff) i charged it to 100% yesterday and iv now still 53% which is pretty good going.
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Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !
Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!
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Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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Task Killer is not the issue, as I only installed it the other day .. The condition was same before as well ..
d_gkal said:
i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!
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I dont think it will make any difference .. I've tried many different ROMs, and its always the same condition with all ... Sometimes my phone become *so* unresponsive that I just feel like smashing it on the ground ! (When I really get upset!)
Also, on another note, when I open Advanced Task Killer, it shows me the amount of free RAM on the top .. Most of the times this value is between 60 MB ~ 100 MB, and sometimes between 100 MB ~ 140 MB .. If never seen this value go above 135 MB or so ... And Desire Z is supposed to have 512 MB of RAM
just full wipe and reflash the rom
d_gkal said:
just full wipe and reflash the rom
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If I do that, it will initially be fast .. Even if I install all my apps on the first day, it will still be okay in terms of speed ... But give it a week, it eventually becomes slow .. very slow! .. And the odd thing is, during this week, I don't necessary install/uninstall anything .. the phone just ****s itself in somehow ... And then from then on, it remains slow, no matter what ...
I open Google Maps, takes like 15 seconds to open .. takes another 60 seconds to go to Google Navigation, and then further lags after that ..
Basically there's a lag in *everything* !
Is there a way I can see what is slowing down the phone ?!
Also, is it true or not whether an older phone, such as Desire Z, can or cannot handle a relatively newer Android version ROM ? Maybe this is why the latest Android versions are NOT officially available for phones many times, because the manufacturer knows the device cannot handle that newer Android version ?
If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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ahmadka said:
Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !
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i had a play with elitemod ics the other day & it was defiantly slower than the GB version... it was using more or less double the ram which i suspect is the real problem.....
Yes its true the newer versions are more hungry. We touched on it in one of the andromadus threads recently. I believe the issue to be the cpu. The nexus s has the same amount of ram as us and although its not as good on there as the gnex, its still good. Having bumped my lower cpu limit a notch, its much better. I also tried a few upper limits and found that 1200 to be best as it suffers with animation under that.
But then all dz's are different. Stay on your rom and bump up the lower limits a few clicks and let us know what you think.
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I've noticed the slowdowns happening with negligible CPU load and no memory constraints. I suspect a problem with the kernel. At the times it happens, the phone seems to be just doing *nothing*.
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If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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Is there any other thing I can try apart from logcat ? I installed Watchdog a few hours ago, but so far it hasn't reported anything out of the way ..
What does have ext partitions do ? How does that speed up the OS ?
Also, I'm probably going to be re-flashing another ROM soon, so please suggest me a ROM ... I'm looking for maximum longterm stability and responsiveness here, so even if a ROM isn't the newest or the most feature-filled, I can still try it out ..
And what is Superwipe (read it in another thread) ?
Normally, when I restore stuff after installing a ROM, I download a fresh copy of the app from the Store, and only restore the app's data using titanium .. is this okay ?
For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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I'm assuming you're referring to this thread: http://www.forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187
Well this is the ROM I'm currently using, which I flashed about 2 months ago, which is giving me all these performance issues ..
I went through the first few pages, but I didn't find any instructions on 4EXT ... The only thing I found was in the OP's FAQ in the start, which said that you should apply ext by downloading 4ext from Play Store, if you get lags ..
Anywhere else I can look ?
Look in general section, somewhere in the first page I posted a thread called dzhboot on g2 or something to that extent, one of the first few posts I eplain how to flash 4ext recovery.
One of the fastest roms I have used is elitemod cm7, maybe try that
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I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.
Ext4 worked really well for me to speed up my phone.. I highly recommend it.
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I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.
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It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.
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It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.
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i superwipe, and i've been flashing roms since the g1. I am not seeing any particular process hogging resources. this current jb beta is pretty good but still get some lagging at random.
if that were the case I would love to try and find out what it is.
it seems to me that a minority of users report lags in rom threads and are dismissed without ever really getting to the root of the problem.
I would really like to try and get to the bottom of it. I am going to move to ext4 but if there are other troubleshooting steps to take I am all ears.
Ext4 alone will make a huge difference, and most of the rest of the slow downs will be do to apps/running services which can be seen with a logcat what is continually trying to use cpu resources
If only a minority report slowdowns then either that minority has a different idea of how the phone should run/ they use the phone in a completley different way/ or have different settings and apps then most have.
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Hello!
I have noticed a weird bug with my phone - phone will go unresponsive after day or so of work. Sometimes the screen will lit, but the phone will be VERY slow, to the state of being unusable. Sometimes the display will not even turno on when I press the power button. Anyway, I have to remove the battery to restart it.
Last time I saw such behaviour, it was my Kindle3, and it was weird power drain issue.
Has anyone had this issue before? I searched the ROM threads and nothing. The phone was bought and used in Europe (BG).This phone is more than 2 years old , hardware problem is a possibility, too
Please report if you know something. Advice me how to log these issues, too?
In general the phone becomes like that when free RAM goes below 80 MB. I've seen this on many AOSP ROMs like you said. I don't remember if it happens on Sense ROMs too, but Sense is quite slow anyway. I usually fix it by clearing out all apps in the Recent apps list.
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Any automated solution to it, then?
I mean, something like close all running user apps, clear cash and RAM and so on. I know that task killers claim to do it, but they are more trouble than help!
Can anyone suggest something tired and working? I cant upgrade to 4.1 cos I need BT
Not that I know of. You can try enabling 'Don't keep activities' in Settings>Developer options. That will leave your RAM free, but it'll take longer for each app to open because it clears it from RAM each time you exit the app. So it'll affect multitasking too. Alternatively, you can try to reduce the number of background processes in the corresponding option. In my opinion none of these solutions are worth it. Just swipe away all the recent apps whenever your phone slows down.
You can use the codefireX 4.1.2 periodicals if you want a fully working 4.1 JB ROM. Development has stopped for it because the dev synergye is now developing 4.2.1, but the last SR5 version is very stable, and everything works including Bluetooth. You can even enable a 'kill all' button in the recent apps panel to clear all the apps at once.
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Not that I know of. You can try enabling 'Don't keep activities' in Settings>Developer options. That will leave your RAM free, but it'll take longer for each app to open because it clears it from RAM each time you exit the app. So it'll affect multitasking too. Alternatively, you can try to reduce the number of background processes in the corresponding option. In my opinion none of these solutions are worth it. Just swipe away all the recent apps whenever your phone slows down.
You can use the codefireX 4.1.2 periodicals if you want a fully working 4.1 JB ROM. Development has stopped for it because the dev synergye is now developing 4.2.1, but the last SR5 version is very stable, and everything works including Bluetooth. You can even enable a 'kill all' button in the recent apps panel to clear all the apps at once.
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4.1.2 has an issue with the speaker phone. I usually have to drive around the city and have to talk during that time, so I rely on BT and speakerphone. I will limit the number of processes and give it a try. If everything else fails, I can go back to CNM7(UGLY!! but STABLE!!!), and wait for BT to be fixed.
It seems that the phone will fall back to default option for number of activities kept every time I reboot it, any way to fix that?
Oh yeah it had that issue. You can also try ViperDHD ROM if you're okay with HTC Sense or go back to CM7 like you said.
Another ROM option is aospX from the HTC Inspire 4G forum. It's a great AOSP ICS ROM and BT has no issues on it as far as I know.
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Oh yeah it had that issue. You can also try ViperDHD ROM if you're okay with HTC Sense or go back to CM7 like you said.
Another ROM option is aospX from the HTC Inspire 4G forum. It's a great AOSP ICS ROM and BT has no issues on it as far as I know.
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AOSP 4.0 is not an option, phone going on strike. I love the aospx ROM, but it is kind of annoying to have to restart when you need to call a client or something in a huury
I will try and go de-sense with Viper, probably, not many options left. I am not happy at all with Sense, dont know why I bought OneX anyway. To be honest, if I see press release about Nexus4 32GB I will sell it and keep DHD as a backup. I still have to use two phones for two months, and will sill what will happen. Till then, I will have to bit the bullet and live with either sense or CNM 7
Thank you for the support!!! Have a happy new
PS trying to limit the number of processes does not work
Happy new year to you too.
I've never used the limit number of background processes option before, so no clue about that.
I see in your signature you're waiting for official CyanogenMod (CM is the acronym ) for your One X. It's already there - http://get.cm/?device=endeavoru
Right now there are only nightlies though, but you can still use them as they're quite stable. A milestone release and a stable version should be out soon also. One X is a great phone and works brilliantly with AOSP, except the camera. The Sense camera image quality may be better (don't know till you try, I haven't experimented with it too much). Also, if you do flash CM/any AOSP ROM for your One X, use it with the NCX kernel. I've heard it gives the best battery life.
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Happy new year to you too.
I've never used the limit number of background processes option before, so no clue about that.
I see in your signature you're waiting for official CyanogenMod (CM is the acronym ) for your One X. It's already there - http://get.cm/?device=endeavoru
Right now there are only nightlies though, but you can still use them as they're quite stable. A milestone release and a stable version should be out soon also. One X is a great phone and works brilliantly with AOSP, except the camera. The Sense camera image quality may be better (don't know till you try, I haven't experimented with it too much). Also, if you do flash CM/any AOSP ROM for your One X, use it with the NCX kernel. I've heard it gives the best battery life.
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I will wait till something is marked stable at at least MR I have a phone to trouble my sleep with, and this is the DHD. I need one to be solid as rock. I already have 4.1 on One X, so everything I need to run on it runs, but I have a lot of unneeded HTC stuff under the cover running.
It's a pity that nexus is not around here, and the expected prise is going to be round 550 euro! It is not just overpriced, this is a [email protected]#ing robbery!