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Arc is slow and laggy

Actually Im really fascinated about the design and the screen of my arc. But hey my Arc is slower than my desire. Few days ago I just received the update. This increased the speed a little bit. But in my opionion for a mobile device with a cpu of over 1ghz its definetly not fast and smooth enough. And I dont have many apps installed. Ihave the feeling the longer I use my Arc the slower it becomes. I think SE already noticed this. Why else should they release and Arc S (Speed). I hope the announced update in october will solve the laggy and speed problem. What do you think? Am I overacting or do you have the same opionion like me?

There is a blurb about frequent system software re-installs on the PC companion support page, I wonder why they would put that up there, yes it is occasionally laggy like X10. Arc is feature rich but sometimes I want speed. It runs fast after a fresh install but it slows down as you install apps. Also widgets slow it down...

Because the 1ghz processors are becoming difficult to get hold of..?
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Where exactly do you see this lag? And how is Arc slower than Desire? I know the default launcher from SE is laggy but I don't think it is that much. Even better when I switch to ADW Launcher EX there is no lag at all.

1. When I am switching between pages on the homescreen. Its very laggy.
2. When I am going back from an application to the homescreen I can really see how the SE-Launcher builds the bottom dock bar up. It needs 1-2 seconds till I can use my phone.
3. Im using the app SwipePad for multitasking. Sometimes I cant switch to the right app cause its to slow and the app menu is not build up properly

Use Launcher Pro or another launcher, problem solved.
One of my mates had a Desire and has a Desire Z now. He said once, wow, that thing is fast when I used my Arc at that time. And now with 2.3.4 it's even faster
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Thanks for the advice. Now. I'm using launcher pro. Faster definitely. But when I'm switching from standby to homescreen I still have a leak. When the homescreen with all the widgets is finally loaded then it's fine. Normal phenomenon?
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Finally I wiped my phone. Reinstalled almost everything. Now its really fast.

ST4YSTR0NG said:
Where exactly do you see this lag? And how is Arc slower than Desire? I know the default launcher from SE is laggy but I don't think it is that much. Even better when I switch to ADW Launcher EX there is no lag at all.
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Tried ADWLauncher EX for a week, it everything went slow. No problems with SE's default launcher, and it's not bad either.

[Q] [Supernova Rom] Lag while surfing the web using WiFi

Supernova is a fantastic rom and with the recent 2.4 version, there hasn't been any freezes or reboots! swiping the screens and rearranging it (used to lag badly) and using it daily has really been a breeze without any major lags.
However I realise that there is a slight lag whenever I turn on the wifi and use the web/market. It seems to me that there is a glitch with wifi usage. Comparing the Desire to LG optimus one, it seems that the Desire is much slower than LG while opening the market, browsing the web etc.
Is there a way to solve the problem? like a kernel that I should install over? I am sure the Desire is capable of much better performance!
Thanks in advance!

does anyone know of a possible solution?

Already checked supernova thread for such a problem?

checked, but there wasnt really an answer.. what I tried was flashing a new kernel but it caused the Desire to lag even more.. I've reflashed the rom, now the only lag is when wifi is turned on, internet, market, whatsapp etc. these applications will start to lag.. especially web browsing.
If anyone knows of a possible solution, do point me in the right direction, thanks!

I have the same lag issue with the market mainly. Lately dolphin hd has also been a bit slow but I couldn't call it a general WiFi problem. Maybe an other version of android market would be better?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

From my experience with Supernova, you must have good sd card for smooth running this ROM.
I had much lags with class 4 sd card. With class 6 sd card it was much better but still not smooth as I wanted to be. It is excellent ROM but had no luck with it.
I'll stick to AOSP roms

hfirfiris said:
I have the same lag issue with the market mainly. Lately dolphin hd has also been a bit slow but I couldn't call it a general WiFi problem. Maybe an other version of android market would be better?
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Have you tried installing another version? There was only the either the new or old market provided for flashing. I'm using the older version (which should be faster) but sadly no luck with it. It lags worse than a lower-spec LG phone.
With the default web browser I guess the lag became obvious after a period of usage. When I compared the loading time, the Desire simply took ages to finish loading.

Nidzo80 said:
From my experience with Supernova, you must have good sd card for smooth running this ROM.
I had much lags with class 4 sd card. With class 6 sd card it was much better but still not smooth as I wanted to be. It is excellent ROM but had no luck with it.
I'll stick to AOSP roms
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I changed to a class 4 sandisk for the ROM. It is a fantastic ROM I guess and I would prefer the HTC sense. However, seeing how smooth other phones are, I guess I need to get a ROM that runs smoothly and yet gives unlimited storage.
Do you have any recommended ROM out there? Either that or I'm hoping there will be a new updated supernova which can make Desire perfect

I still keep my attention on further development of Supernova.
Well I can recommend you my current ROM, Redux 2. It is fast and stable. In combination with dalvik2sd script it gives you decent ammount of internal memory.
I have 101 app installed and still 30mb of free memory. I am satisfied.
Sent from my Redux 2 Desire

Popiah said:
Supernova is a fantastic rom and with the recent 2.4 version, there hasn't been any freezes or reboots! swiping the screens and rearranging it (used to lag badly) and using it daily has really been a breeze without any major lags.
However I realise that there is a slight lag whenever I turn on the wifi and use the web/market. It seems to me that there is a glitch with wifi usage. Comparing the Desire to LG optimus one, it seems that the Desire is much slower than LG while opening the market, browsing the web etc.
Is there a way to solve the problem? like a kernel that I should install over? I am sure the Desire is capable of much better performance!
Thanks in advance!
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Very similar problem of yours, I can connect to my WiFi, however, it frequently disconnects and change to my mobile network... Didn't happen before when I was using the official Rom... I am now using the latest 2.4.0.1version, I thought the WiFi issue should have been fixed in this version??? Need help~ this is the only problem of this fantastic Rom!!!!

[Q] Most stable and fluid ROM?

My HTC Desire is currently unrooted (I had it rooted once, but it started crashing all the time and the battery drainage was awfull..) but especially the limited capability of installing apps is getting on my nerves.
Since I ain't felling like trying around for weeks, I'd like to hear your opinion on which rom ist the most stable and fluid one.
So, my question is now, which rom is right now the most stable and fast?
From the looks I really liked the MIUI ROM I tried, but I also liked the cyanogen mod one.
Additionally: Is it usefull to change the kernel? If yes, which one and how am I supposed to do it?
-Nascor

Any ROM that is small, and fits into the internal memory.
Obviously if the ROM needs an ext partition it will be much slower.
So basically any AOSP ROM will satisfy you. (CM7, Oxygen, MIUI, dGB etc.)

k3lcior said:
Any ROM that is small, and fits into the internal memory.
Obviously if the ROM needs an ext partition it will be much slower.
So basically any AOSP ROM will satisfy you. (CM7, Oxygen, MIUI, dGB etc.)
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what do you mean by that, just ROMs which need an ext partition for "themselves" or also ones, which use it for apps?
Also, CM7 and MIUI started crashing pretty occasionally and often after a time...

Nascor said:
what do you mean by that, just ROMs which need an ext partition for "themselves" or also ones, which use it for apps?
Also, CM7 and MIUI started crashing pretty occasionally and often after a time...
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#1 Yes ROM's which use SD Card to store apps/system files will be always slower no matter what.
#2 Never had issues with either one so cant really help you, when does it happen?

Check out Mokee OS!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1680577

k3lcior said:
#1 Yes ROM's which use SD Card to store apps/system files will be always slower no matter what.
#2 Never had issues with either one so cant really help you, when does it happen?
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well, but that's the main reason for flashing, on the stock ROM I'm just able to have really few apps installed until the internal memory is full.
The crashes where most times completly random. Sometimes it just rebooted in my pocked, another time it froze on the lockscreen, and then it froze while using it. And after some time I got stock in a bootloop (on both ROMs)
piotras1230 said:
Check out Mokee OS!
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1680577
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I like the overall look, does it run smooth and stable?

k3lcior said:
#1 Yes ROM's which use SD Card to store apps/system files will be always slower no matter what.
#2 Never had issues with either one so cant really help you, when does it happen?
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Using sd-ext doesn't mean that you'll get slower rom, as long as you have sd card with higher speed (class 6 or 10). You can try CM 7.2.0.1 from Proz0r's thread (with int2sd support) no difference with stock version trust me.

nlooooo said:
Using sd-ext doesn't mean that you'll get slower rom, as long as you have sd card with higher speed (class 6 or 10). You can try CM 7.2.0.1 from Proz0r's thread (with int2sd support) no difference with stock version trust me.
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Keep fooling yourself, tested all a2sd scripts with Class 4, 6 and 10 SD Cards.

k3lcior said:
Keep fooling yourself, tested all a2sd scripts with Class 4, 6 and 10 SD Cards.
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And what's the proof that you're right?
I've been using some scripts for a long time and I can tell you that if you're using right scripts on right way everything is perfect.
Sent from my HTC Desire using flashes and thunders

nlooooo said:
And what's the proof that you're right?
I've been using some scripts for a long time and I can tell you that if you're using right scripts on right way everything is perfect.
Sent from my HTC Desire using flashes and thunders
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Yeah, then make a video when you're opening large application.
First with the app on internal memory, and then with the app+dalvik+data on SD and lets see.

k3lcior said:
Yeah, then make a video when you're opening large application.
First with the app on internal memory, and then with the app+dalvik+data on SD and lets see.
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Have you ever tried a2sdx script by Amarulz and int2sd method by Proz0r?
Sent from my HTC Desire using flashes and thunders

So I should probably add: Which A2SD script or whatever should I use? The internal memory for apps is much too less...
Beside that, here are a few ROMs I looked into, what do you think, which one will fit my needs best (fast&stable)?
SUPERNOVA XTREME OFFICIAL
MARANGE MIUI
MOKEE OS
Oxygen ZM
Nikez Lente

Supernova if you want Sense, Oxygen if you prefer AOSP.

k3lcior said:
Supernova if you want Sense, Oxygen if you prefer AOSP.
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isn't oxygen a bit outdated now.

ryanraven said:
isn't oxygen a bit outdated now.
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Go with OxyZM1.2 or MildWild v4.3, both Oxygen based and very smooth n stable
Sent from my HTC Desire

got OxyZM1.2 right now, I like it so far...just 2 quick questions:
How can I move whole apps to the ext4 partition on my SD card? I'm running pretty low on memory again...just like 30MB left...
I can also backup the login data of the stock email programm, so I don't have to reenter everything every time I install a new ROM, can't I?
by the way, what's the difference from OxyZM to MildWild?
Thanks for the answers till yet!

Hi,
My experience so far is very limited but:
CM7 is bullet proof, but my experience with using the app S2E to expand internal storage was variable.
One the one hand, you can just install anything you like and not worry about space (within reason)
Downside is after a few months use it was laggy as hell. It was taking 5 seconds to open up swiftkey.
Now, I've since tried the following:
BCM, a version of CM9/ICS for Desire. It's ludicrously fast and comes with a very nice built in script for using the sd card second partition as internal space.
It's still laggy, BUT I've now learnt how to align partitions correctly and that my SD card is badly aligned.
I've got the 4EXT recovery so once I've backed it all up I can re-partition the card correctly and see how much that improves things.
BCM's a2sd script (called Mounts2SD) also allows you to disable writing file times, good speed up from that too, I use it on my desktop PC's SSD.
So far though, BCM is chomping my poor battery, even when idle.
BCM benches about 50% faster than CM7 on AnTuTu (3000 vs 2000)
It's noticeably smoother for UI interactions, my one 3D game (Monopoly) it also noticeably smoother (higher frame rate)
So, I've got to now fix the battery drain and repartition the card and then my good old Desire is all good.
There's also something called Supercharger V6 which bodes well, unless all it's tweaks are already in CM7/9/BCM.
J.

not alot between the 2 really. download attached file and put on ur sdcard, boot into recovery and flash it (install from sdcard) this will give ya more space

RoboJ1M said:
Hi,
My experience so far is very limited but:
CM7 is bullet proof, but my experience with using the app S2E to expand internal storage was variable.
One the one hand, you can just install anything you like and not worry about space (within reason)
Downside is after a few months use it was laggy as hell. It was taking 5 seconds to open up swiftkey.
Now, I've since tried the following:
BCM, a version of CM9/ICS for Desire. It's ludicrously fast and comes with a very nice built in script for using the sd card second partition as internal space.
It's still laggy, BUT I've now learnt how to align partitions correctly and that my SD card is badly aligned.
I've got the 4EXT recovery so once I've backed it all up I can re-partition the card correctly and see how much that improves things.
BCM's a2sd script (called Mounts2SD) also allows you to disable writing file times, good speed up from that too, I use it on my desktop PC's SSD.
So far though, BCM is chomping my poor battery, even when idle.
BCM benches about 50% faster than CM7 on AnTuTu (3000 vs 2000)
It's noticeably smoother for UI interactions, my one 3D game (Monopoly) it also noticeably smoother (higher frame rate)
So, I've got to now fix the battery drain and repartition the card and then my good old Desire is all good.
There's also something called Supercharger V6 which bodes well, unless all it's tweaks are already in CM7/9/BCM.
J.
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hes looking for most stable rom lol also antutu scores are pointless and mean jack s*** imho

Benchmark scores mean nothing, just a bunch of useless information that are not right. Usually all roms that I used and had big scores on benchmark apps were running much slower then the ones with lower scores. As you all can see and try roms with swap support get much higher scores but doesn't run nor smoother nor better.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app

Most of stock ROMs are laggy. GB/ICS

Like title say I have a problem with all stock based ROMs. Most of them are laggy in games and in launcher too (but in launcher is not that heavy). I have suspicious that is issue of my phone because people say that for them is ROM lagless. It's interesting because CM9 is nearly lagless but in all GB/ICS stock based ROMs i experince lags with/without overclock. Any ideas what's wrong with my phone?
Sorry for my bad english

Jecmenn said:
Like title say I have a problem with all stock based ROMs. Most of them are laggy in games and in launcher too (but in launcher is not that heavy). I have suspicious that is issue of my phone because people say that for them is ROM lagless. It's interesting because CM9 is nearly lagless but in all GB/ICS stock based ROMs i experince lags with/without overclock. Any ideas what's wrong with my phone?
Sorry for my bad english
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I dont think its your phone,its the apps that you install like facebook,line etc..and new roms are with adrenobooster and this mod is sometimes couse lag too.try to delete them.
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I have tried adrenobooster 3 times on three different roms, all getting severe lag. Although I appreciate the devs work I found adrenobooster to be a massive hit to performance.

masteril said:
I dont think its your phone,its the apps that you install like facebook,line etc..and new roms are with adrenobooster and this mod is sometimes couse lag too.try to delete them.
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Yes i have installed apps like Facebook etc. but i'm using greenify (on ICS of course). It's the app that freeze apps like facebook so no RAM eating from them. In GB is different but still with those apps i have about 180 MB RAM free. I deleted AdrenoBooster and performance is little bit better but not good. Mystery is that when i use CM9 based ROMs lags are gone.
ozzmanj1 said:
I have tried adrenobooster 3 times on three different roms, all getting severe lag. Although I appreciate the devs work I found adrenobooster to be a massive hit to performance.
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Adreno booster is really great think but not for me. Yeah in some apps is really big performance boost but in others there's huge performance downgrade. So i think that for me is better living without AdrenoBooster
Sorry for my bad english

ozzmanj1 said:
I have tried adrenobooster 3 times on three different roms, all getting severe lag. Although I appreciate the devs work I found adrenobooster to be a massive hit to performance.
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Try to use version 0.2 using it now instead of 0.6 and no lag so far
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masteril said:
Try to use version 0.2 using it now instead of 0.6 and no lag so far
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Ok I'll give it a try. Thanks

Jecmenn said:
Like title say I have a problem with all stock based ROMs. Most of them are laggy in games and in launcher too (but in launcher is not that heavy). I have suspicious that is issue of my phone because people say that for them is ROM lagless. It's interesting because CM9 is nearly lagless but in all GB/ICS stock based ROMs i experince lags with/without overclock. Any ideas what's wrong with my phone?
Sorry for my bad english
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The best so far that I stuck on using is Xperia Nxt 1.3 by Kris dee. I've tried lots of ROM and I think this is the most stable yet beautiful. Flexible also because you can install facebook, timescape, twitter, battery widgets, maps, walkman, by your choice. Can't wait to the next update. I have lots of applications that I installed now but still no lag and still 110mb free on phone memory.

berdugo said:
The best so far that I stuck on using is Xperia Nxt 1.3 by Kris dee. I've tried lots of ROM and I think this is the most stable yet beautiful. Flexible also because you can install facebook, timescape, twitter, battery widgets, maps, walkman, by your choice. Can't wait to the next update. I have lots of applications that I installed now but still no lag and still 110mb free on phone memory.
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that's what i'm saying when i recommend a rom then it's nxt 1.3.
also for me it's the best, stable as stock, all the special features like quick panels and walkman in lockscreen, the "good" clock app from other sony phones (with timer and stop watch). it never let me down and the battery life in combination with the good old doomkernel seems also unbeatable.
used it over 6 months - then i tried a lot of other roms. now i'm back again.

konstruktor said:
that's what i'm saying when i recommend a rom then it's nxt 1.3.
also for me it's the best, stable as stock, all the special features like quick panels and walkman in lockscreen, the "good" clock app from other sony phones (with timer and stop watch). it never let me down and the battery life in combination with the good old doomkernel seems also unbeatable.
used it over 6 months - then i tried a lot of other roms. now i'm back again.
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Some custom ROMS are just for your eyes only. Just to tell your friends you got ICS or JB even your phone is 2011 model. The thing with those ROMS is they remove the Sony UI which is I believe the most professional looking UI on androids than Samsung/LG/Moto/Htc. Some ROMS will even remove the functionality of the gaming pad of the xperia play. We bought the PLAY for that reason. For "GAMING" ....

[Q] Which ROM? Or back to Stock for a fast phone

Hello
I have enjoyed having djolivier's JB ROM in my phone. But it is still so much slower than Stock. I need to be able to dial, text and search straight away. I have a class 10 SD, I'm using Int2Ext+ I don't have a lot of apps, I only partitioned 512MB to try and speed it up.
I upgraded to get the Gmail App with Primary Inbox etc. but Gmail is so slow I hardly use it
Do I need to go back to stock with Link2SD? Or Stock with Int2Ext+? Or is there a ROM out there that is really actually so fast that the app opens when you touch it - not 5 or 25 laggy seconds later?
This may not be the correct place for this - but I don't get straight answers on other sections of the forum.
Thanks in advance for your answers.
Chris

Hello. First of all I have to tell you that in my oppinion, the Wildfire S hardware is a bit weak, so you can't avoid the 5 laggy seconds for an app to open... But, I 'll tell you which roms are the fastest for me.
1. Stock. This is what I use. I like its performance, but I dislike it visually. I use a Sense 4 theme and live with it.
2. CM9. I my oppinion the fastest custom rom until now. It lacks one thing: Video recording. Someone could talk about the laggy video playback but Henry_01 modified some lib files in his MIUI port, and video playback is working there. So I replaced the libs in CM9 and it worked too. So If you don't care about video recording you can use this one.
3. JDevs upcoming update seems a lot promising to me, and this is what I'm waiting for to replace stock.
As for the scripts, in terms of speed:
Link2sd > int2ext+ >int2ext
I use stock android 2.3.5 Sense 2.1 with Link2sd.
This is what I think is the best, until now.
edit: I forgot the Cyanogenmod 10.1 by OWL project, it's good and fast too. But in my opinion cm9 is better, in terms of performance.

polfrank said:
As for the scripts, in terms of speed:
Link2sd > int2ext+ >int2ext
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Thanks so much for your response. One follow up question. You're saying Link2SD is the best for speed? When I installed a JB rom without int2ext there was not enough memory to even start installing apps..... did I do something wrong? I don't want to go back to the days of uninstalling apps so I can update the ones with large memory etc.
Chris

ChrisChorlton said:
Thanks so much for your response. One follow up question. You're saying Link2SD is the best for speed? When I installed a JB rom without int2ext there was not enough memory to even start installing apps..... did I do something wrong? I don't want to go back to the days of uninstalling apps so I can update the ones with large memory etc.
Chris
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I'm glad to help
You 're right. Link2sd worked succesfully only on GB and ICS for me too. You didn't do anything wrong, so use only int2ext(+) with JB.....

polfrank said:
Hello. First of all I have to tell you that in my oppinion, the Wildfire S hardware is a bit weak, so you can't avoid the 5 laggy seconds for an app to open... But, I 'll tell you which roms are the fastest for me.
1. Stock. This is what I use. I like its performance, but I dislike it visually. I use a Sense 4 theme and live with it.
2. CM9. I my oppinion the fastest custom rom until now. It lacks one thing: Video recording. Someone could talk about the laggy video playback but Henry_01 modified some lib files in his MIUI port, and video playback is working there. So I replaced the libs in CM9 and it worked too. So If you don't care about video recording you can use this one.
3. JDevs upcoming update seems a lot promising to me, and this is what I'm waiting for to replace stock.
As for the scripts, in terms of speed:
Link2sd > int2ext+ >int2ext
I use stock android 2.3.5 Sense 2.1 with Link2sd.
This is what I think is the best, until now.
edit: I forgot the Cyanogenmod 10.1 by OWL project, it's good and fast too. But in my opinion cm9 is better, in terms of performance.
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Would you mind linking to which CM9 ROM you would suggest? Trying to breathe some life into my phone again.

Grorbabrag said:
Would you mind linking to which CM9 ROM you would suggest? Trying to breathe some life into my phone again.
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For me this is the best CM9 rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245617&highlight=slimsandwich
As it is, it has 2 bugs: no camera recording and slightly buggy video playback. If you want, I can fix the video playback and provide it to you tomorrow.
Although, I would suggest that you wait for the next big project by the owl team, based on android 4.2.2.
edit: Better use this link to SlimSandwich, as here, in xda it's not the latest version posted: https://teamblueridge.org/projects/files/
Rom > Marvel > Slimsandwich-marvel
Or tell me to give it to you with working libs for video playback.

Thanks for the info. The problem with owls project is that WiFi tethering is and has been broken for a long time and I hardly see them fixing it. I'll try out slimsandwich. I'm mainly looking for a fast, responsive ROM, not many features.
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Best ROM thread. Closed