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Powermat adapter

Hey guys I received the evo adder from powermat today. It is one of the first production adapters for the evo, it works great and is the same size as the factory battery cover. I will post some pics as soon as I get home. Engadget doesn't even have pics of this, you will be the first to see it.
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Where did you get it?
It doesn't seem to be listed on the powermat website.
Thanks

way badass, i can't wait til it's released.
I love powermats. I haven't had the priveledge of owning one yet, but i really want one.

What would be epic win is they release one that works with the Seidio 3500 battery. I would be so all over that.

The powermat seems to be really expensive and not worth the money right now..... maybe until it drops in price.... but still nice to see that they have something for the evo.

thats awesome how can I get me one of those?
can you do a side view? does that micro usb thing get in the way or is it annoying?

any pics of it on the phone?

Its not on the web site because its not released to the public yet, its going to be a couple months before it does. I will post some pics with it on my phone tomorrow morning. Unfortunately the micro plug does get in the way of an aftermarket case, as of now thats the only way to charge the battery, but, I do know they are testing a modified battery that has charging contacts on top of it to hopefully eliminate the micro usb dongle. Other than the dongle sticking from the bottom it is exactly the same profile as the factory back.
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Does this work with a case on the phone?

thacounty said:
Does this work with a case on the phone?
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See my post above.......
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Glad to see that powermat is joining on.
I have LOVED using the palm touchstone chargers at home, work, and car.
One concern for me would be price. If the powermat is $100 and the case back is $40, that is tooo much for a singular setup IMO.

I recently got a powermat as a gift for my birthday. I've been waiting for an EVO door/case charging adapter. When does this come out and what is the price range going to be? I'm ready to buy one of these bad boys right now.

Released in the next month our two, can't release anymore info or photos, got my ass chewed for what I put here already. Sorry guys, will release more info and pics when I can.
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skantman69 said:
Its not on the web site because its not released to the public yet, its going to be a couple months before it does. I will post some pics with it on my phone tomorrow morning. Unfortunately the micro plug does get in the way of an aftermarket case, as of now thats the only way to charge the battery, but, I do know they are testing a modified battery that has charging contacts on top of it to hopefully eliminate the micro usb dongle. Other than the dongle sticking from the bottom it is exactly the same profile as the factory back.
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Cool. The dongle is the only thing blocking the case? I was actually thinking the case might inhibit it from charging though. Maybe not?

A closer look
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good article, I still beat them to it....the dongle is a pain in the arse because aftermarket cases will not fit...i modded my body glove case with my dremel tool and it fits. right now thats the only way around. who knows maybe they will release their own case that fits with the adapter installed, just maybe.

does the "dongle" actually block the micro usb, or does it have a pass through?

skantman69 said:
Released in the next month our two, can't release anymore info or photos, got my ass chewed for what I put here already. Sorry guys, will release more info and pics when I can.
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If you can contact powermat, please let them know that their battery door needs a raised lip to protect the camera lens.
That small addition would make the product 89% better (the only reason I'm using a case right now is to protect the lens.)
Here's an example of what it may look like:

[HMOD]Wireless Charging for home and on the go

This has already been done for the EVO 4g using Palm Touchstone capable scraps but I want to take it to another level. Since i'm not much of a programmer I can add to the community in this way.
Please let me know how many of you are interested in this. I'm going to put up full walk throughs as I move along but I will also sell some off (in the marketplace) for those that don't want to go through the hassle. I'm going to start ordering parts and building mock-ups and doing some design work during slow downs at work. I'll have a donation link up eventually if any one wants to help cover the initial costs.
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CURRENT DEVELOPMENT STAGE: 1- INDUCTIVE CASE RESEARCH, see #1​
PLEASE KEEP AN EYE ON THIS POST (general updates) AND POST#3 (useful links and eventually tutorial)
:good:KEEP DISCUSSION AROUND THE FOLLOWING DESIGN INTENTIONS/ ABOVE DEVELOPMENT STAGE:good:
Design Intents are as follows:
1) A case for housing the inductive coil/wiring
This just requires compatible cases with necessary clearance for the inductive coil and wiring to the male micro usb. Cases with oversized bumpers would be best since they will keep drops from damaging the micro usb plug that will be sticking out of the bottom of the phone. This may not be ideal so if anyone is decent and making plastic molds maybe we could come up with an attachment to a case.
2)NO Hard wiring inside/to the phone
This involves using low profile male mirco USB type B connectors, like this, and mounting and wiring to the case. This will keep your plug always covered and keep you from trying to charge your phone with both inductive and regular usb to the wall/pc. The main design issue here is protecting the male connector to the phone. Suggest usb connectors, wiring, how to boost the amperage, does the palm pre coil protect from over voltage, etc.
3)A car kit.
I will start with my car, A nissan sentra SR, for the car kit. Others are encouraged to come up/share your solutions as well! This should be a hard wired solution using the palm pre/pixi round touchstone dock. Kind of like a dash mount. I think the magnet should hold the phone ok being that my car isn't one of the most powerful things on the planet but for you hot rodders out there keep that possible issue in mind.
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Current Progress: CASE​Alright I have the cases in hand! I got three of them in the mail and will be tearing these apart this weekend. The pucks (touchstone bases) should be here sometime next week.
I'm also looking at the following cases
Ballistic
Ballistic 2
Clear S Case
The ballistic I am hoping will give clearance for the micro usb. They will be a bit heavier though... we'll see.
I going to order 2 cases for starters, what should they be?
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Useful Links and Resources
Useful Links and Resources
This post will provide you with the knowledge necessary to learn what you need to complete this project. Any helpful links your share in this thread will be copied here.
General Info
What is Electromagnetic Induction? - HERE
A little about wireless power distribution - HERE
Other Mod References
ManiacMagic's E4GT Soldered Inductive Mod - HERE
darrenf's from android central Soldered - HERE
(thanks DaisyPlucksta for the links)
Helpful Videos
qianqinde's how-to for International GS2 (soldered) - HERE thank's rwilco12

Regarding the thread, this would be hardware development which i believe belongs in the general section. As for the idea, it seems like as long as its not too bulky most users wouldn't mind if it extended battery life substantially like 24 hours or more. Could make you rich with over 9.million sgsIII owners. But Im pretty sure there are already many types of chargers on the market so unless i missed something perhaps you should submit this to a patent office so no one steals the idea or design. Just my two cents dinner no one else has posted. But ya not software development so I would move three thread before you get flamed too bad.

No flaming allowed.
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Maybe in accessories? Good luck. Sound fun. I might be interested once your done.
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abw0046 said:
This has already been done for the EVO 4g using Palm Touchstone capable scraps but I want to take it to another level. Since i'm not much of a programmer I can add to the community in this way.
Design Intents are as follows:
1) A case based solution, the ET4G is too damn thin!
This is just require compatible cases with necessary clearance and materials
that are least obstructive to the magnetic field.
2)NO Hard wiring inside/to the phone
This involves ordering male mirco USB type B connectors and mounting and wiring to the case. This will keep your plug always covered and keep you from trying to charge your phone with both inductive and regular usb to the wall/pc. The only issue here is protecting the male connector to the phone. I've some ideas for this but will be very dependent on the case we use.
3)A car kit.
I will start with my car, A nissan sentra SR, for the car kit. This will be a hard wired solution using the palm pre/pixi round touchstone dock. Kind of like a dash mount. I think the magnet should hold the phone ok being that my car isn't one of the most powerful things on the planet but for you hot rodders I'll keep that possible issue in mind.
Please let me know how many of you are interested in this. I'm going to put up full walk throughs as I move along but I will also sell some off for those that don't want to go through the hassle (is that ok on here? or do i need to set up donations?). Either way let me know because I'm going to start order parts and doing some design work during slow downs at work.
Thoughts? Concerns?
Oh and if you have other devices you would like this type of solution for I'm cool with that. Just ask and we'll work through it!
OH man... here we go!
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I'm game! I tried doing it myself but I could only find the one spot on the USB plug to hook up to. I opted but to do it because there was some massive dismantling and soldering I would've had to do. I've still got the parts ready for when someone smarter than me figures out an easier way to do it though!

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Technically, he is developing something. Just not code.
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great idea. i have 4 touchstones kicking around. would love to be able to use them.

Technically, this IS "development"
Anyway, I would be interested in this myself. Seems like a great idea. I'm pretty handy & I have a welder/soldering station at my job. Would be happy to help out.
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I would pay money for this...
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This sounds very cool. And technically this is development. Just not software related. So I don't see where else this could go.
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abw0046 said:
This has already been done for the EVO 4g using Palm Touchstone capable scraps but I want to take it to another level. Since i'm not much of a programmer I can add to the community in this way.
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Please let me know how many of you are interested in this. I'm going to put up full walk throughs as I move along but I will also sell some off for those that don't want to go through the hassle (is that ok on here? or do i need to set up donations?). Either way let me know because I'm going to start order parts and doing some design work during slow downs at work.
Thoughts? Concerns?
Oh and if you have other devices you would like this type of solution for I'm cool with that. Just ask and we'll work through it!
OH man... here we go!
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Just a thought.
What would be the charging time using touchstone/conductive charging; or in other words, what would be the output voltage/current provided to the phone. It takes a while on regular chargers to charge the phone compared to HTC phones.

haha I actually did this too my I500. Literally car kit and everything. Even had it play music through Bluetooth. except I hated cases on that phone so I hardwired it. looked so much sexier. But the case is easier. Built like that too just didn't have the car cradle
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Technically, he is developing something. Just not code.
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True

How much would this be for a car charger and home charger wireless
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I have 2 palm touchstones, 2 old fried pre & pre2, and 2 phone backs for the touchstone charger to integrate with the phone..
I would absolutely love to know how to integrate the "guts" of the battery cover with the needed parts into the e4gt innards to make the wireless charger .. but I'm not sure how yet.. :/ I will keep reading and post here if I get it working..
I assume that the physical connection is totally possible but the OS will most likely need to be able to control voltage and jazz so I'm not sure what would be needed for that part..
sj
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Thanks for all the interest and offers for assistance. Being that its my friend's birthday as well as my own on top of fathers day weekend I won't start any design research until Monday.
I have ordered some parts which should be here late next week. I am still trying to find a source for some type B micro USB plugs. Guess I'll shoud stop throwing away those electronic component magazines. I did a quick search and found some but they were $6.50 each with $10 shipping. If any of you have a source for these let me know. Hell you can send me spare cables and I'll deconstruct them if I have to, but that's not very fun.
When I get on my PC I'll add a poll to see where you all would like this topic to be. Then I'll ask you how do I move it
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Lets do it!
I actually got the touchstone and pre back and ripped out the inductive charging circuit just for this (I actually got it for my evo, but I upgraded before I had the chance to follow the evo guide). I'm excited for this!
Anyway - some heads up - the E4GT is MUCH heavier and bigger than the pre. Don't expect it to stay firmly attached. It will stay okay, but you need a really thin back face of the case. You may also try replacing the thin magnets with thicker rare earths. I actually got it under the stock cover okay, and that worked decently, but no good way to attach it. That's where I quit (after thinking about soldering to the board, but not having a good place on the USB connector without taking the phone all of the way apart. I also didn't fins another point on the board to solder to (like the charging circuit), although I'm sure it's there somewhere.
Also, you need to mount the inductive charging circuit a little low because the phone is so long that it will hit the table and not mount properly if you put it in the middle. Furthermore, be ware that if you add a connector to the USB port, this will exacerbate this problem, perhaps to the point of requiring landscape or stronger magnets.
The USB connector you want are available at a number of places. Ebay has some cheap micro usb adapters (including right angle) that you might play with. If you just want the connector itself, it will likely be more expensive, but I suggest checking mouser or digikey.
Good luck! This will be AWESOME!
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Whoa! Just got curious enough to do a quick google search. You may want to czech these out real quick:
Soldering route: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451684
again: http://forums.androidcentral.com/ep...c-4g-touch-stone-mod-details-lots-photos.html

DaisyPlucksta said:
I actually got the touchstone and pre back and ripped out the inductive charging circuit just for this (I actually got it for my evo, but I upgraded before I had the chance to follow the evo guide). I'm excited for this!
Anyway - some heads up - the E4GT is MUCH heavier and bigger than the pre. Don't expect it to stay firmly attached. It will stay okay, but you need a really thin back face of the case. You may also try replacing the thin magnets with thicker rare earths. I actually got it under the stock cover okay, and that worked decently, but no good way to attach it. That's where I quit (after thinking about soldering to the board, but not having a good place on the USB connector without taking the phone all of the way apart. I also didn't fins another point on the board to solder to (like the charging circuit), although I'm sure it's there somewhere.
Also, you need to mount the inductive charging circuit a little low because the phone is so long that it will hit the table and not mount properly if you put it in the middle. Furthermore, be ware that if you add a connector to the USB port, this will exacerbate this problem, perhaps to the point of requiring landscape or stronger magnets.
The USB connector you want are available at a number of places. Ebay has some cheap micro usb adapters (including right angle) that you might play with. If you just want the connector itself, it will likely be more expensive, but I suggest checking mouser or digikey.
Good luck! This will be AWESOME!
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Whoa! Just got curious enough to do a quick google search. You may want to czech these out real quick:
Soldering route: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451684
again: http://forums.androidcentral.com/ep...c-4g-touch-stone-mod-details-lots-photos.html
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Awesome find DP! Looks extremely promising! I will see if I can get it working as soon as I have the time.. hopefully sometime this week
sj
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Mobile stands, without charging function.

Hi XDA,
I'm searching a mobile stand for my cellphone for when I'm at the office. I dislike a docking station because I do not need to charge it whilst at the office. When I'm searching ebay i only get this ugly cheap plastics one.
Does somebody know a more premium stand ?

You can get the Samsung official dock with spare battery charger and just don't use the spare battery charger.

Wont fit my commuter case
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anyone?

http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/desk-genie-non-slip-charging-desk-stand-p22432.htm
Was sceptical myself about the phone staying put but it does work nicely.

KONNET iCrado Neo.
Go google it cos i'm new so i still can't post links. No experience with it, but looks good. Has a hole at the bottom so if you want to charge it with a cable it can be done.

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KONNET iCrado Neo.
Go google it cos i'm new so i still can't post links. No experience with it, but looks good. Has a hole at the bottom so if you want to charge it with a cable it can be done.
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You sir are a pro. Exactly what im looking for!
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I use the bracketron.com mobile dock. Its made I guess for a dash, and uses the same sticky material as that other mount, its just not so big and its adjustable, I also use it to hold my 8" tablet, and it works perfectly. I paid $20USD for mine, so U can find it pretty cheap.
ive attached some pics of it on my desk. I cant post links yet, but you should be able to google it if you are curious.

Wireless Charging Mod?

So I saw a post on the XDA
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/simple-wireless-charging-mod-for-the-galaxy-note-ii/
and was wondering if such mod could be done on our Desire HD.
I also saw this video about the SGS which is a bit more challengeing to do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ga4N_Ih9GE
It would be pretty cool to have this mod so if anyone knows if and how this could be done please write here about it
Note that they are using the Palm Pre back cover and chargeing dock which are pretty cheap.
Also a note to the moderators: I didn't know where to put this thread so could you please place it in the right category if I made a mistake.

It looks like he just hacked in a wireless charging module from another device. It seems Like a lot of work though to just have it charge from a specified platform. If it charged from wall outlet while using in hand, that would be cool. Pretty clever either way though. If you know how to sauder and are comftortable with hardware it seems fairly straight forward. Too bad the desire/inspire is much more of a pain to take apart.
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Yeah I know that the procedure itself is pretty straight forward but the real question is would it fit inside the DHD body?

Monster Watts Wireless Charging Kits for Gs3

Just found this as i was reading on the wireless charging the new S4 is supposed to get...
Apparently this company as of today is selling three options for wireless chargers for the gs3.
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/samsung-galaxy-s3-gets-3-wireless-charging-options.
for 45$ ill give it a try and i get to keep my otterbox...

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Just found this as i was reading on the wireless charging the new S4 is supposed to get...
Apparently this company as of today is selling three options for wireless chargers for the gs3.
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/samsung-galaxy-s3-gets-3-wireless-charging-options.
for 45$ ill give it a try and i get to keep my otterbox...
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Very cool. I wonder what the charging pad looks like.
Also, while this will fit under your otterbox I don't know if it will actually charge it through it. Worth the $45 though!

for 45$ and a drop in solution i am willing to try and test it...

This looks like a damn good price tbh. $68 for a receiver and charger is cheaper than any qi combo that I know of currently.
The bonus is that it's also Qi technology so even if you change your s3 out, you should be able to get another phone that has qi tech in it or even modify that charging pad to work on other electronic devices (with some copper tape/wire)

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This looks like a damn good price tbh. $68 for a receiver and charger is cheaper than any qi combo that I know of currently.
The bonus is that it's also Qi technology so even if you change your s3 out, you should be able to get another phone that has qi tech in it or even modify that charging pad to work on other electronic devices (with some copper tape/wire)
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Thats exactly what i was thinking.. The odd fact that i just so happend to find this today and apparently it just went live today i am pretty excited to snag it at this price.
But As im sure the capabilities to wirelessly charge are inevitably going to be included in future phones it isnt like this tech is likely going to be easily replaced. And it also seems like Samsung is going to abandon using our phones tech as wireless charging.. or at least thats what i gathered from thsi article..
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/11/samsung_s4/

the thing w/ samsung and wireless charging is that they really have no idea who the hell they're really going to back. Yes, Samsung co-founded A4WP, but they're also member of Qi's group as well.
To me, it just looks like they're sitting on the fence and waiting to see who will come out as the standard before going all in. I also don't think Samsung will build it into the phone itself due to its current ambivalence on the 2 standards and most likely leave it open like the s3 and note 2.
While the article talks about a4wp having a few cm of range, he also did not mention that a newer revision of Qi offers up to 4cm of range as well (last I checked).
I don't care much for too much range for wireless charging, just enough so that any non-ferrous case will charge regardless of thickness. I have a Qi set and it has so far worked with the ballisitc SG (although it Can get picky, but that's due to the fact that I also modified the charger to be at a 45 degree angle and the case's bottom lip [on the hard plastic side] curved up a little for no reason)

mputtr said:
the thing w/ samsung and wireless charging is that they really have no idea who the hell they're really going to back. Yes, Samsung co-founded A4WP, but they're also member of Qi's group as well.
To me, it just looks like they're sitting on the fence and waiting to see who will come out as the standard before going all in. I also don't think Samsung will build it into the phone itself due to its current ambivalence on the 2 standards and most likely leave it open like the s3 and note 2.
While the article talks about a4wp having a few cm of range, he also did not mention that a newer revision of Qi offers up to 4cm of range as well (last I checked).
I don't care much for too much range for wireless charging, just enough so that any non-ferrous case will charge regardless of thickness. I have a Qi set and it has so far worked with the ballisitc SG (although it Can get picky, but that's due to the fact that I also modified the charger to be at a 45 degree angle and the case's bottom lip [on the hard plastic side] curved up a little for no reason)
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Right that much i understand...
I was holding out for the wireless charging where i didnt need to have it directly on the base. and every few months i search around for a viable option.
So far, since my free time is limited, this seems like the best all in one solution that doesnt require me to change my case, and its a good price.

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Right that much i understand...
I was holding out for the wireless charging where i didnt need to have it directly on the base. and every few months i search around for a viable option.
So far, since my free time is limited, this seems like the best all in one solution that doesnt require me to change my case, and its a good price.
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in you case it seems to be a cheaper and more reliable solution imo.
all in all, it's a good find. although I should've ask if it affects nfc as well..
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The stealth one, and the one built into a battery cover can be found on a different site for only about $15.

this one comes with a charger as well.. which would cost 50-60 usd more. so it's a good deal.
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Well.. I bought mine for $47.90 with the charger and receiver, so if your willing to spend just another $2 then you can get that with less of the wait.

that's great. any link for others who might be interested?
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Hm.. I like how there is radio silence as soon as there is a mention of link to provide proof.....

I wonder if the smart one works with those thin protective cases?

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that's great. any link for others who might be interested?
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What do you mean link for others? i ordered mine the day i posted.

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What do you mean link for others? i ordered mine the day i posted.
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That was for Tenchuboy, not you.
He claimed he got a set that was cheaper and all that, so I asked a link so he can prove it. So far, complete silence from him.

OOOhhhhhhh....
i got it. i know i could make a set with the palm pixie stuff, i priced it out on amazon and total with a charging dock its like 20$... but i dont have the time to. im only actually home about 3 days a month. id rather be lazy..

Just an FYI i got my wireless charging kit from this company and it works great. Its a small device that attaches to the back of the stock battery. Its very small and it fits perfectly, very small buldge from the device but the back case fits on fine and my otterbox fits it perfectly.
the best part, it works with the stock otterbox. there were no issues with wireless charging whatsoever.

How is this one any different than any of the other wireless IQ receiver pads & chargers for the s3?
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That it works with all variants, doesnt require you to change out your battery door, although they offer a solution for it, and its pad and reciever for 40$