We should be able to completely analyze the EMMC now and get our full 4GB storage back, right? What's stopping us?
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We should be able to completely analyze the EMMC now and get our full 4GB storage back, right? What's stopping us?
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i was just thinkin the same thing while i was at work.
My guess is whats stopping you is the dependancy on people who know what they are doing. What is stopping them is their own personal interests. 1.whatever GB is way more than enough storage than most need so i would say....
1. Further exploration for understanding of this device
2. Stable easy to install recovery w/o buggies
3. ROM'S
Root just happened ,those of us that are in need of these very generouse and intelligent people should just be patient and see what goodies they have in store when they get around to it ;-)
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I'm entirely patient to HAVE it, but it would be good to have a least a brief confirmation that the 4GB storage is actually there and will ultimately be accessible.
I wonder this because I'm thinking about the possibility of eventually putting MeeGo in the G2. No reason not to; it's got all the speed and RAM necessary. I think it would come down to a question of internal storage.
Not to bust the OP's chops or anything, its actually 3.7 GB.... and im guessing you can account for atleast 700 MB for ROM and recovery stuff....
So USER accessible should be around 2.9 GB? Correct me If i'm wrong....
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Not to bust the OP's chops or anything, its actually 3.7 GB.... and im guessing you can account for atleast 700 MB for ROM and recovery stuff....
So USER accessible should be around 2.9 GB? Correct me If i'm wrong....
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negative. on stock rom after data reset, i only started with 1.9Gigs. everytime. thats is a far cry from the 4GB advertixed. plus i dont think recovery images are that large.
can you access the emmc chip thru root explorer after S-off perm#?
i believe someone was saying that this is just a bug in the hardware, reporting the wrong size - unrelated to S-ON.
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i believe someone was saying that this is just a bug in the hardware, reporting the wrong size - unrelated to S-ON.
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really. interesting. i'll put money on a dev coming up with a way to patch it.
Hello!
New Arc S owner here, coming from a HTC Desire.
One nice feature we had available for the Desire was changing the MTD partition sizes, either presets coming with HBOOT images, or custom ones, using a modification of Firerat's patch:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806321
Now, after removing all SE bloatware from the ROM I flashed, I'm left with over 200MB on /system, and 90MB on /cache, and I'm sure a lot of people are in the same position.
It's a shame seeing all that free space go to waste, if you ask me
So... Does anyone know if / how we could get custom MTD partition sizes on the Arc, as well?
I browsed through the threads in the Development section, but couldn't find anything relevant. I'm afraid I don't have the necessary skills to do this, but maybe some devs will be willing to look into it.
Thanks!
That would be very useful! As you said, 200 MB on system and 90 MB on cache is a very big waste of space.
cezarL said:
Hello!
New Arc S owner here, coming from a HTC Desire.
One nice feature we had available for the Desire was changing the MTD partition sizes, either presets coming with HBOOT images, or custom ones, using a modification of Firerat's patch:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806321
Now, after removing all SE bloatware from the ROM I flashed, I'm left with over 200MB on /system, and 90MB on /cache, and I'm sure a lot of people are in the same position.
It's a shame seeing all that free space go to waste, if you ask me
So... Does anyone know if / how we could get custom MTD partition sizes on the Arc, as well?
I browsed through the threads in the Development section, but couldn't find anything relevant. I'm afraid I don't have the necessary skills to do this, but maybe some devs will be willing to look into it.
Thanks!
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i just tried my g1's customMTD 1.5.9, it acted like it worked, but the partition sizes didn't change.
maybe its cuz we don't have a real recovery partition. arc's ICS cwm is built inside its kernel/boot i think
A cursory warning that this rom has A2sd installed; so, one will definately want to format their sd card [and particularly /sd-ext] correctly. I recommend [for this rom] ext2 on /sd-ext not over 1.5 gigs, no swap, whatevers left or you prefer to set for fat32. Also, though written in, you might want to dl and install A2SDGUI from market; link to guide for it and Links2SD found later in thread.
This is a rebuilt nandroid backup from dsixda's Android Kitchen. Be sure to do a nandroid and do NOT flash this on any other model wildfire s [A510c ONLY]. 2.3.4 as is stock to US Cellular, added everything including busybox, A2SD, and su, If any devs would like to pull it apart and meld your kernel in, go for it. Again, make nandroid. Should have full HTC sense 2.1. Download Link2SD from market for some space savings, and don't say I didn't warn you to nandroid [three times].
Also, as with any new rom installation. I recommend doing the following in your recovery: a factory reset [which wipes your data and cache] and advanced clear dalvik cache. If you do those two things, you usually don't have any transference issues; Superwipe is also a good alternative primer for wiping.
Code:
Android OS version : 2.3.4
Device : marvelc
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Rooted (Superuser.apk + su) : YES
Rooted (unsecured boot.img) : YES
BusyBox installed : YES
BusyBox run-parts support : YES
Apps2SD (Apps to EXT) enabled : YES
/data/app enabled : NO
Custom boot animation allowed : NO
Nano text editor installed : NO
Bash shell support : YES
/system/framework is deodexed : NO
/system/app is deodexed : NO
radio.img found : NO
ROM will wipe all data : NO
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Changelog:
12-13-11 got contribution of
Oldest nandroid PoGoP had (made shortly after root)
built from that.
Known Issues:
Friendstream only has HTC Twitter - no other choices
This is how it came stock; I tried to fix it, but will have to port another sense to get it right.
Thanks
So many I can't remember them all.
eoghan2t7 - for his work developing s-off [w/o xtc clip]
GotsOJ - for being the first to document his s-off experience (was very helpful).
alquez - for his work on the Unoffical CWM Recovery and port of CyanogenMod [which is where I'll be spending some development time next (kernel editing)]
dsixda - of course for his kitchen
jikantaru - lots of sense development for the Euro-side of this phone
simonsimons34 - for making Superwipe marvelc edition, once supplied w/ idea and src links
PoGoP - for contribution of files and being first tester
Works on Virgin Mobile as well
Although this will have US Cellular branding (and apps). So far everything I've tried works on VM USA too. These guys got HTC FM Radio and WiFi hotspot native and not as gunked up. Still need to test some stuff, but so far its nice. This Rom as my other one does not include radio.img; which, is probably why it works.
Rob
Tested network,sms,mms,fm radio, WiFi (and hotspot)... All working. Amended OP.
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This Rom as my other one does not include radio.img; which, is probably why it works.
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so does this mean that I could potentially use the other custom roms around here and just not include the radio.img file?
on a side note apart from what I just asked, any way to include data2sd with this rom so that you could use one of the sd card partitions for internal storage?? Similar to how [ROM]Wildfire S -JikantaruROM XE™|Sense2.1|DATA2SD|HighQuality & Performance 10-30-11 uses data2sd.
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so does this mean that I could potentially use the other custom roms around here and just not include the radio.img file?
on a side note apart from what I just asked, any way to include data2sd with this rom so that you could use one of the sd card partitions for internal storage?? Similar to how [ROM]Wildfire S -JikantaruROM XE™|Sense2.1|DATA2SD|HighQuality & Performance 10-30-11 uses data2sd.
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Probably could. Apps2sd does the same thing for me; Just download a app like Link2sd, let it flash the script [according to the partitioning of your personal sd card], reboot and voila... All apps and dalvik vm can be moved to sdcard.
Most of the other custom roms are written for GSM phones and most marvelc flashers have reported wifi, data, bt, etc not working [major flaws]. You can get calling if you backup your APN info [APN backup & restore - app on market] but no data... you won't keep the rom(s) longer than to test it... no PRL data etc [important for us CDMAers ]. Short answer... not yet. I know of one dev universalizing his rom... but as of this writing, not yet. Only mine and simonsimon's roms work for marvelc as of this writing.
Rob
yea, I'm already using link2sd, but after moving everything possible, or linking everything possible, it still only leaves me with like 20mb of internal storage. with the rom I mentioned earlier, using data2sd, it would basically install the rom directly to the sd card, and use the 2nd partition as the "internal" storage. making the internal storage around 700+mb available.
There's this one gps app that I am dying to try, just to see how good it is myself, but it tells me that theres no room to install the maps This is after the app itself is moved to the sd card, and with about 20mb available. That's part of the reason I would like to have data2sd on this device.
At least that's what I have discovered so far, btw, im still a n00b to android phones. so im not totally up to date on all the diff apps and what they all do, so please correct me if i am at a wrong assumption.
noted
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yea, I'm already using link2sd, but after moving everything possible, or linking everything possible, it still only leaves me with like 20mb of internal storage. with the rom I mentioned earlier, using data2sd, it would basically install the rom directly to the sd card, and use the 2nd partition as the "internal" storage. making the internal storage around 700+mb available.
There's this one gps app that I am dying to try, just to see how good it is myself, but it tells me that theres no room to install the maps This is after the app itself is moved to the sd card, and with about 20mb available. That's part of the reason I would like to have data2sd on this device.
At least that's what I have discovered so far, btw, im still a n00b to android phones. so im not totally up to date on all the diff apps and what they all do, so please correct me if i am at a wrong assumption.
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Don't like Google Maps eh? I have a hard time justifying adding (or even trying) an app over 10mb... Google's apk limit I think is 25mb for the market. That being said, I am working on a custom marvelc rom that I will release with option for Apps2sd or data2sd etc. flashable zip mods and release the rom without them. [this would mean your practice would be full wipe, install rom zip, install [your choice of mod] zip, etc. I might even look into this guy that wrote some roms for the G2 ILWT or something like that... he had a lil text script you could modify...[makes it all one command]. Either way, it will be a new thread when I release the custom rom. Won't be immediate either; I'm 40 and move like a turtle. I am shooting for a release before Christmas though. [looking at everything inc. compiling 2.3.5 kernel and seeing if I can get that running on our cdma's, possible sense porting [true 3.0 if it works], etc.]
The best system file size scenario you will see is with an AOSP rom [like CyanogenMod]. A couple devs are working on those type roms for the marvelc (simon[2] and alquez). I'll assist where I can, but stay out of their way. Alas, I catch myself rambling yet again.
Looked over Data2sd... It basically uses your sd card as your data partition, but most prefer DarkTremor's A2sd still. Just hard to get rolling sometimes. I did post a mini-guide on it over on the VM USA stock rom thread here.
i know this device is sort of "old hat" i have a question, the rom from this OP works well on uscc wildfire s (cdma) one thing i dont understand is how come the rom reflects "virgin mobile" carrier brand on lockscreen, and notification pull down, also in settings/network/operator name...
will someone please explain this to me.
i do not see much uscc support for this device, rightfully so. i have yet to flash a rom for a510c that reflects the uscc official "get your phone back to stock roms" am i missing something?
Well there was a uscc dev early in the game, but to answer your question, the rom probably touched my phone. I know you guys have had an update.. as has vm usa and metro. Unfortunately, going back and updating.. their could be a possibility of ten different hboots (for the three carriers, that I know of [original, htc unlock, update1, [update2-only metropcs]]). Also, the newest ones aren't as easily hackable. For uscc there would be three possible hboots, and these provide a base. If you would like to get back to stock entirely, use football's RUU. I paid for and he agreed to release these for all marvelc carriers. Otherwise, I could do something now without it touching my phone Early on, had no RUU and little way to test otherwise.
Rob
PS Thank you for letting me know. And your post counts toward interest. So far, the guy [Pogop] who shared his nandroid has pm'd me.. but I guaged interest as low; and thus match my priority for uscc specific development. But you've raised it from a 1 to a 2 If it gets to 10 it gets done right then.. but I got a list of tasks. Sadly those under 5, I have not been able to make time for despite my best efforts. If any other uscc users would like Team Blueridge attention, now would be the time to chime in with a +1
Sent from my HTC_A510c using Tapatalk 2
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Well there was a uscc dev early in the game, but to answer your question, the rom probably touched my phone. I know you guys have had an update.. as has vm usa and metro. Unfortunately, going back and updating.. their could be a possibility of ten different hboots (for the three carriers, that I know of [original, htc unlock, update1, [update2-only metropcs]]). Also, the newest ones aren't as easily hackable. For uscc there would be three possible hboots, and these provide a base. If you would like to get back to stock entirely, use football's RUU. I paid for and he agreed to release these for all marvelc carriers. Otherwise, I could do something now without it touching my phone Early on, had no RUU and little way to test otherwise.
Rob
PS Thank you for letting me know. And your post counts toward interest. So far, the guy [Pogop] who shared his nandroid has pm'd me.. but I guaged interest as low; and thus match my priority for uscc specific development. But you've raised it from a 1 to a 2 If it gets to 10 it gets done right then.. but I got a list of tasks. Sadly those under 5, I have not been able to make time for despite my best efforts. If any other uscc users would like Team Blueridge attention, now would be the time to chime in with a +1
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thanks for the reply back :good: i do see that you have other things going on, would like too +1 again... was thinking that perhaps you might be able to not touch the rom? its definitely a uscc rom. nandroid BU would be sweet.
Works with US Cellular A6230 Wildfire S
This ROM is working great on my US Cellular A6230 HTC Wildfire S
Nice to back to fully working ROM.. cannot find any customs that work with my model :/
Thanks very much chap..
errr... hold up....
Hold up a sec... I don't seem to be able to install market apps from Google Play...When I try the phone reboots and I get a Tell HTC notice.. anything I should know? Is there any control over Apps2SD ?
US CELLULAR WILDFIRE S a6230 Marvel C Everyting seems to work great otherwise
Fixed! Was my own fault regarding the market apps, figured it out...
safe to install OTA System Updates?
Hello,
This question refers to this ROM which I installed a week ago...
I have flashed this great, stable Stock Rom to work with my Marvelc Wildfire s, which took me forver to find and I'm very happy with. However, I have now got a notification stuck on the bar telling me there is a System Update available. My first question is; IS IT SAFE TO INSTALL THE OTA UPDATE OVER MY CURRENT ROOTED ROM? If so, is there anything I should know prior to doing that?
My second related question is; If it is not safe to install the update, or uneccessary, unimportant or just a plain nuisance, how do I get rid of the notification that will not clear and prevent them from appearing in the future?
Thanks in advance for your help!
I don't think you can update it, you don't have the original HTC recovery that came on your phone anymore...if you don't want that message to pop up go to settings-->about phone--> and somewhere in there there's an option to turn the update checker off. sorry I don't know the exact menus I've been using cyanogen since august.
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demi_fiend said:
I don't think you can update it, you don't have the original HTC recovery that came on your phone anymore...if you don't want that message to pop up go to settings-->about phone--> and somewhere in there there's an option to turn the update checker off. sorry I don't know the exact menus I've been using cyanogen since august.
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Hmmmm... can't find the option to turn off update checker anywhere... like it doesn't exist.... ?? strange isn't it?
it says "check for updates"
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I know this is prob a pita.. But there is an old VM USA thread that answers disabling the updater. Should be same or similar for uscc rom. If you have trouble finding it, I'll look up and link post (in thread)
Rob
demi_fiend said:
it says "check for updates"
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I know this is prob a pita.. But there is an old VM USA thread that answers disabling the updater. Should be same or similar for uscc rom. If you have trouble finding it, I'll look up and link post (in thread)
Rob
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demi_friend... I do NOT have that option...
insink71... If you could find that link regarding disabling the updater I would be very grateful, it's the only downside to this ROM I have...
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gryffon said:
demi_friend... I do NOT have that option...
insink71... If you could find that link regarding disabling the updater I would be very grateful, it's the only downside to this ROM I have...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26340613&postcount=132
Thanks!
insink71 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26340613&postcount=132
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That link did the job great! You know I tried searching for that yesterday using keywords "ota, notices and updates" but never got that result... strange that....
Anyway, thanks Rob, I did what was instructed with no issues, hopefully it prevents those stinky updates. I don't know why I would want to update anything while I have everything just how I like it.
You may want to add "Working with the US Cellular A6230" to your description as I know many folk are looking for a 'working' rom...
Cheers!
no more USC logo on boot...
Hey... I fiddled a bit more with this and got a few apps loaded and working great... still no problems with this ROM...
Fixed OTA Updates as per insink17's instructions...
Have excellent, phone,data,gps,sms,mms etc...
removed or froze much of the remaining sytem apps that were chewing up battery/ram...
added some nice live wallpapers...
and best of all, got rid of the US Cellular bootanimationimage and can now add any boot animation I like! (Have a smart little glowing Droid on startup at present... cool!)
Thumbs Up!
Ok I am sure this has been posted here many times. The OS for the wildfire s is one big piece of crap to say the least. I want to install a custom OS that will allow me to put apps and games on the sd card instead of the internal memory. I would just like to be in full control of the OS of which I am not now. What is the simplest and best way to achieve this. I have read several things but not exactly sure what to do. I would like to know what the best software to use that also has a good tutorial for it as well. My wife has had this htc wildfire for just over a month and the internal storage full has been on for weeks. This must be one of the most poorly designed phones I have ever seen. It has all kinds of crap on the phone that my wife will never use. I was also curious as to what software would be could to view the internal memory of the phone with my pc, or can you even do this with the standard OS installed on the phone. I would greatly appreciate any helpful input concerning my questions and thank you kindly.
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Ok I am sure this has been posted here many times. The OS for the wildfire s is one big piece of crap to say the least. I want to install a custom OS that will allow me to put apps and games on the sd card instead of the internal memory. I would just like to be in full control of the OS of which I am not now. What is the simplest and best way to achieve this. I have read several things but not exactly sure what to do. I would like to know what the best software to use that also has a good tutorial for it as well. My wife has had this htc wildfire for just over a month and the internal storage full has been on for weeks. This must be one of the most poorly designed phones I have ever seen. It has all kinds of crap on the phone that my wife will never use. I was also curious as to what software would be could to view the internal memory of the phone with my pc, or can you even do this with the standard OS installed on the phone. I would greatly appreciate any helpful input concerning my questions and thank you kindly.
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Read the index thread...All you need to know is there.
I suggest the following topics:
-XTC Clip your phone if it's GSM
-How to S-OFF CDMA phones
-How to root your phone and install custom Clockwork recovery
-Using DATA2SD, DATA2WHATEVER, APPS2SD, or my favorite LINKS2SD
-How to custom partition your internal memory
-Installing CM7.2 Nightly builds
That should get you going.
Thank you very much sir. Looks like I have quite a bit of reading ahead of me before I will be attempting anything. LOL
d33ps1x said:
Read the index thread...All you need to know is there.
I suggest the following topics:
-XTC Clip your phone if it's GSM
-How to S-OFF CDMA phones
-How to root your phone and install custom Clockwork recovery
-Using DATA2SD, DATA2WHATEVER, APPS2SD, or my favorite LINKS2SD
-How to custom partition your internal memory
-Installing CM7.2 Nightly builds
That should get you going.
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Hi,
I wanted to ask you how it is possible to do the custom partition of the internal memory. I did with my ZTE Blade but now I would like to do it aslo with Wildfire S but I did not find any tutorial how to do it with this phone. Could you please send me the link how to do it or to post a tutorial? I was trying to find it but either Im blind or its just nowhere.
Thank you
Hi,
I've done a search and apologies I can't find the answer to this one.
I'm running the excellent Android Revolution 6.3.1 ROM.
How do I change the size of the installed System ROM partition versus the Internal partition (the latter is where you install apps that aren't stored on your SD card)?
If the procedure differs depending on ROM just let me know - then I'll be happy to re-post in the Android Revolution Development thread.
I really need to do this. I've plenty of space on the System ROM partition as I've uninstalled system apps I didn't want, such as HTC's weather stuff (prefer Beautiful Widgets for weather). However, I'm running low on my Internal phone's space and microSD card.
It's appreciated I can just convert an app to be stored on the System ROM partition; but doing so means my Titanium backup procedure won't be as efficient. I could explain what I mean but hopefully that's not necessary!
I'll be sure to thank any reply.
Cheers.
I don't think there's a way, and even if there is, it's too dangerous...
very possible, but also not so easy. it has been done and is used on desire and wildfire, and they call it custom mtd partitions. it contains 2 scripts you flash through recovery and requires full phone format except 4 sd. DO NOT FLASH THOSE ON DHD, im pretty sure it will mess something up. the scripts should be modded to work with dhd. i have no idea how to do that
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233340&highlight=custom+mtd
Thank you both.
I'm really surprised this isn't something that's done to the point the clever people have created a tool for the DHD. I mean, everyone who uses custom ROMs tweaks things and will find themselves removing unnecessary system apks.
I'm guessing it's not terribly easy because the partition allocation is perhaps set by the hboot version, and the scripts above maybe mod that. I may throw this question to the Android Revolution thread.
Cheers again, and if anyone has any suggestions please fire away!
maybe because dhd has a pretty large internal storage already...
another thing is that sense roms use up most of system partition and its not worth the hussle to add 100-150 mb to 1.2 gb. a bit different story if you go aosp
It's not impossible. The point is the risk is to big, messing with partitions is one of the easiest ways to brick your phone, and DHD already has quite enough of storage space...
if im not mistaken bricking is unlikely because you dont touch hboot or radio. i was using this on wildfire and it worked great. the risk as far as i can understand is loosing your partition info resulting in complete data loss(internal). could be wrong though...
Remember CWM 3.0.2.6? If you tried to format an sd-ext partition with it, an error in the code made it modify internal partitions and bricked many phones... If something goes wrong you can't reason with your device "don't mess up my hboot, only system and data", they are still on the same memory chip...
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not in detail, but i do remember the problem with cwm, but not ehat it was.
i didnt say it is impossible, but unlikely. and maybe im under the influence of all the "bricks" from failed rooting with aahk. a lot of people just doesnt seem to understand what brick means.
and about them being on the same chip, doesnt really matter too much because your not reffering to phisical but logical adresess. if you can explain to me a bit more about those things id be really grateful, cause its allways nice to learn something new.
i do agree that playing with lower level stuff such as this increases the risk of bricking if you dont know exactly what you are doing or make mistakes. thats why i dont mess with it myself.
original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7061471
I'm not an expert on this, I'm just posting my opinions based on mine and other people's experience.
Once I made a horrible mistake of using the built-in Windows partitioning tool for some partition resizing. End result: Partitions overlaping, luckily no data loss, but un-mountable/invisible, managed to get my data out with linux, and even that wasn't easy. However, the OP from the thread you posted says that it can't really go wrong, and even if it does, it's fixable with fastboot, can't argue with that, I guess he knows what he's doing. I quite possibly could be wrong, and unfortunately, don't have time right now to research this, but I think that hboot is on the same memory chip as the other partitions, which leads to the partition table being there also, so if you mess up the partition table, you may end up not being able to boot to hboot, therefore bricking your phone.
Once again, this is my understanding of things, if you have time to do some research to confirm it or prove me wrong, please post it here, I'd like to widen mu knowledge too.
Thanks gain everyone for your input. It's a bit disappointing there's been no tool made to do this with our phone or for a particular ROM, but I can't complain since I wouldn't know how to do it myself!
I guess no one saw the need for it, but we got a nice little discussion going on right here. Do some research, jump in, and maybe some day you will make it yourself...
to be honest i didnt read the thread carefully, i only skimmed through since i dont need extra space. what i was saying was only my understanding of things and what o remembered from using it on my wildfire. but, if i remembered correctly, in the thread i posted, op also says that theoretically it should work on multiple devices because the script reads the needed info from the phone. and to clarify on the spot, nobody should try this based on my sometimes inacurate memory. from the learning point of wiew, im interested in learning and thats why i post (or read) here might give it a shot one day when im bored, but first i need to read that thread carefully to better understand how and what it does