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Hi, I have the desire, and well I'm board with it, I want to mess around with different roms like miui, gingerbread extra. But I don't understand, please could someone help me with some of my questions? Thank :
1) What are the chances of breaking it through rooting, and what could happen, and would should you do it it does happen?
2) what does bricked mean, and is there away of unbricking?
1) what do you do if a bad rom breaks?
1.5) what are the chances of things going wrong?
2) Can you have more than one rom installed at a time, and switch between them, a bit like you can with launchers, and uses the same apps and data on those roms?
2.5) Is unrevoked the best way to root?
3) I you can have more than one rom, can you have a gingerbread rom, side loaded with a froyo from?
4) How do you switch between the roms?
5)Does rooting affect battery life?
6) Using unrevoked, is there anyway to unroot?
7) where do you find roms, and does the rom manager in the market allow you to install them without flashing?
8)Is there a good htc sense hd or gingerbread rom that works well?
9) With different roms increase the speed of the device, like the n1 is faster than the desire, yet they have the same hardware?
I know that a lot of questions but i am really nervousness about this and I can't seem to find todate answerers to these questions. If someone could help me with these questions I would be very great full, as I want to get more our of my device. Thanks ( I know there are a lot of rooting threads, but I really need to find out as much as i can before I undergo this, I love my desire too much to allow it to break when there was something that i could have done)
There is a remote chance (0.00000001%) of anything going wrong as long as you follow the steps to the rooting process and S-Off. If you become bricked then there is a topic on how to unbrick.
Easiest and best way to root is to using unrevoked 3.32. Make sure you download the HBoot drivers from their website. After rooting, it is also good to make your device S-Off'd. Your able to flash HBoot templates to change partition sizes and also change the splash and remove system apps and so on.
You can only have 1 rom installed at a time. You have to flash roms as well, that's how you install them and other zip files through the recovery. If a rom breaks, you can just flash it again. Installing a rom takes 5 mins, if that really.
You find roms in the Android Dev section. You can use Rom Manager but you have to pay or something.
You can have a fast rom or a "slower" rom. It depends on how it's been built and stuff but also the kernel can help to speed things up. (Speed isn't always the answer). There is no best or crappiest rom either. It's best to test many out for yourself.
Battery life again depends on the rom and the kernel.
Things To Download
To root a device
To S-Off your device
Roms and alsort of other nice things
Hope this helps you out.
Thanks very much , but do you need to install "S-Off" as I don't quite understand what it does, and which one to download and how to install it. Thanks
You don't need to install S-Off after a root. S-Off just allows you to do more things like uninstall system apps, change the splash screen, change the HBoot (not quite sure what else). If your not going to be doing them sort of things then stay away from it.
When you root, the unrevoked utility roots it and changes the recovery to ClockworkMod 2.5.1.8. That recovery allows you to boot into it and install roms through it. It has a menu and you use your optical tracker to navigate through them. That is how you install different roms.
With the roms, you need to see which one you like. I've been through almost all of them and I have one I stick to now. I can't say which is the best, that's for you to decide. The Gingerbread roms are Android 2.3 and I THINK, emphasis on the THINK, that the rest of the roms are Android 2.2.
I think at first your like, oh what if I mess things up and stuff but you won't if you follow instructions. When I first did it, I completely messed up and couldn't even boot into a rom at all and was wondering how to sort it out. I got there in the end but still. I also forgot to mention, if you want the stock rom back, you can install one of the RUU's. It will wipe everything and you will have to root again, but you will have stock.
Thanks very much , when change roms will you lose all of your apps, and data?
Yes. When your changing roms, you have to erase all data. It is a must and everything will go, apps, user data including texts and contacts, EVERYTHING!!!.
Thanks so much for all your help, i'm going to do it now, and use cyanogen mod 7 or 6.x. Thanks again
No worries. If you get stuck, just message me or something.
Completely IGNORE S-OFF if you're a n00b, it shouldn't be recommended to anyone who:
1. Doesn't know what it is
2. Doesn't actually need it
Concentrate on rooting and running a custom ROM first
Not actually true. When I S-Off'd my Desire, I didn't have a bloody clue, other than it disables all security, what it was. You eventually learn things like I did and read a little more. S-Off is a great tool to have on your phone because it gives you all the more freedom to do what ever you want with your device. I will say for all the "n00bs" out there that if you are S-Off'ing then please read it all carefully, unlike me because I could have messed it all up.
You were lucky - better to learn first, do second
I saw recently a wiped imei which made me cautious
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Thanks for all you help, I have rooted and now have a custom rom (cm 6.1). Thanks
EddyOS said:
Completely IGNORE S-OFF if you're a n00b
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I would add that if you're a n00b, don't even try to get your device rooted!
Lothaen said:
I saw recently a wiped imei which made me cautious
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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I would ask if that's even possbile. Apparently it is.
Delete the efs storage without a backup... doh
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I had a stock Desire and wouldn't move from it. Then the niggles in the current build just annoyed me enough to actually go down the root route (see what I did there? )
So I rooted and after a few mishaps along the way (make backups of everything, phone and SD card, especially if you partition it!) I am very happy with my Ginger Villain ROM. A few things still niggle (Me avatar in texts blank, phone reboots randomly to name a few), but its not as bad as it used to be. I can live without Sense as well surprisingly enough.
I also did the same for a friend, and stuck them on LeeDroid 2.3d and as they are technically challenged, it works for them sweet as.
stringent said:
I had a stock Desire and wouldn't move from it. Then the niggles in the current build just annoyed me enough to actually go down the root route (see what I did there? )
So I rooted and after a few mishaps along the way (make backups of everything, phone and SD card, especially if you partition it!) I am very happy with my Ginger Villain ROM. A few things still niggle (Me avatar in texts blank, phone reboots randomly to name a few), but its not as bad as it used to be. I can live without Sense as well surprisingly enough.
I also did the same for a friend, and stuck them on LeeDroid 2.3d and as they are technically challenged, it works for them sweet as.
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Haha that made me laugh. As for your contact icon of yourself, you need to add yourself. Your own number and name and then you can add a picture. Yes it is annoying a little because Android natively doesn't have like a "contact card" for yourself.
Rooting and S-Off is the best thing I did by far
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Haha that made me laugh. As for your contact icon of yourself, you need to add yourself. Your own number and name and then you can add a picture. Yes it is annoying a little because Android natively doesn't have like a "contact card" for yourself.
Rooting and S-Off is the best thing I did by far
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bump creates a contact card for yourself...
right at the top of the phonebook called 'My Contact Card'
Lothaen said:
bump creates a contact card for yourself...
right at the top of the phonebook called 'My Contact Card'
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Odd, I don't have that, I had it in the Sense UI, not on the stock Ginger Villain ROM, unless I am missing something ...
Hello everyone , i was symbian user and used to helloox the phone an do alot of stuff to the phone , but now when i tried to hack (or you guys call it root) the phone then i come across words i dont get , well i want to root my phone and get some things i want to have like make installations directly on the card , get good scores in quadrant (i get 1025) but i want better numbers but still use the htc sense on my phone please help me i dont get this whole thing here , thanks in advance and sorry if this is a wrong thread , i have desire v2.2 , just turned android a week ago and love it
Everything you need to do is here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
Dont attempt it unless you understand it do lots of reading.
If you want better quadrant scores use photoshop (or paint).
The rooting process is pretty well explained in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814381
From that point on try searching, it's all been mentioned before.
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AnasNazeer said:
Hello everyone , i was symbian user and used to helloox the phone an do alot of stuff to the phone , but now when i tried to hack (or you guys call it root) the phone then i come across words i dont get , well i want to root my phone and get some things i want to have like make installations directly on the card , get good scores in quadrant (i get 1025) but i want better numbers but still use the htc sense on my phone please help me i dont get this whole thing here , thanks in advance and sorry if this is a wrong thread , i have desire v2.2 , just turned android a week ago and love it
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If you want a nice ROM with Sense I can recommend the LeeDroid ROMs as speedy and stable.
What i found was that Sense was fun for a while but I ended up putting new launchers over the top anyway ....
If you dont mind losing Sense and fancy Gingerbread ROM then im currently using Ginger Villain. Its very impressive and very stable
Redux ROm for the Win
When I got my first Desire, I left it at stock and was still impressed with everything it could do. After a while I decided to root it as I was curious about all of the ROMs available.
I played with various ROMs like LeeDroid, Oxygen, GingerVillain and accidentally stumbled across one called Redux.
I put it on and have not changed since (actually I tried the Villain_au rom for 1/2 an hour, then restored Redux).
My advice would be to root your device, create a Nandroid backup via the recovery boot, then experiment with the various ROMs until you are happy with one. All of the info you need is available through this site, you just need to read a bit.
A word of advice, for the most part, perform a full wipe of the phone with each new ROM. It makes things easier and less things "break".
When you have rooted your phone, make "Titanium Backup" your new friend along with SMS backup tools.
I know enough to be dangerous in terms of rooting and ROMs now, and everything I have learnt so far came from this site.
Hope this helps.
OK, your new to Android.
Actually Desire is also my first Android phone and I have been using it for about 8 months.
What I did until now is first to get use with my phone with its original condition during the first month and also learning if there are more things I could do with my phone, here I found out what is and how to root my Desire.
After about a month, I decided to root my phone because I had problems with the very limited memory for apps installation.
I was confuse which ROM should I use after rooting since I also want better and new ROMs...someone told me about the LeeDroid and I also agreed to use it since LeeDroid is quite similar to the stock ROM but of course with additional functionalities.
Than the flashing-virus got me...and...I flashed many ROMs (RCmixHD, DeFrost, MIUI, RCs Z, etc.) until I decided to settle with BaadNewz 1.3 (now InsertCoin 2.0.1).
S-Off and other more advance things got picked up on the way till now.
All of the knowledge about my Desire came from this incredible Forum and its members...so..search, read and ask to people here...
Here is a start from me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
alright i have decided to install oxygen rom cuz its simple and fast and very good as told by the droid guys here , im waiting for my 32gb card to arrive and then install the rom (for partition of 4gb for internal memory) , thanks everyone now the mods can lock this thread
Its not adviced to use ext partition bigger than 1.5gb (market problems)... you would never used it anyways...
1GB is absolutely enough for ext3/4 partition... you can install apps on SD card anyway. ;-)
yea most advanced users and devs would recommend 1gig was the perfect amount of room. anything more then 1.5 gigs will give you issues
alright thanks guys for the advice , today i will go through the reading and understanding stuff then apply it tomorrow
i have orange phone and there are two orange roms to downgrade me phone (unroved says its too new to root) one is orange ch-fr and other is orange ch . which one should i use
Just use orange ch
Hi all,
I used to be on here all the time with my Windows 6 phone, but have been using Android for the last 18 months and have been extremely pleased - so no need to come on here!
Now, though, like many people no doubt I have become frustrated by the lack of space for apps on my Desire!
My ONLY requirement is to have more space for apps; I have no particular wish to change anything else, as I am more than happy; Soooo, which is the best way for me to go? Do I need to root and flash a custom ROM? Or is there a way of achieving what I want more simply? I should say I have used Apps2sd etc, and I am still short.
Any advice welcome!
Stuart
Check this out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Flashing_Guide_-_Android
You will need to root and flash a custom ROM - to get A2SD or Data2ext working.
Then you'll have a lot of space on your Desire.
You'll need to install a ROM with A2SD or Data++ this will extend the internal memory to the SD card.
THIS tells you how to do everything.
First off, yep, I used the search but nothing did quite match the question I have...
Now, one of the main reasons I want to root my phone for, is, that I don't have (even nearly) enough space for the apps I want to use.
1. I saw a ROM floating around here which is enabling the complete installation of applications to the sd card, is this possible with every ROM or just with this specific one?
And:
2 .On the current stock ROM there already is an App2SD function, but I haven't got enough space anyway, does this improve with root access?
The second reason I want to root my Desire is, that I'd like to have 2.3 instead of 2.2, because of some features that were added.
One, actually minor but anyway, more reason for rooting for me is, that I can have a different theme (I'm getting bored of the stock one...)
3. Are this and the first one enough reasons to root your phone? Is it worth it?
Then, some more general questions about rooting:
4. I saw a few tutorials out there, which are "noob proved", is it really that simple? (I'm not complete idiot in terms of technical things, but I haven't got much expirience with android...)
5. I also saw that it is possible to "brick" your device, does this just happen when you do something completly wrong, or is it just random? How "high" is the chance of bricking your device?
6. After you rooted your device, can you "switch" ROMs quite easily or is it a kind of harder process each time?
7. Im not soo familiar with android, as I mentioned before, so, does android write the SMS and so on to the SIM card or are they saved internal? Are they getting lost while rooting?
And now over to some more personal questions:
8. What application or advantage did you root your phone for?
9. Which root apps are really making it worth rooting?
I'd be really thankfull if you could help me with this, and I appreciate each answer!
Best regards
P.S.: Sorry for my kinda bad english, but I'm not quite often using it....
1. You are talking about a feature named a2sd. If a rom supports it, it will be listed in its feature list. To use it, you have to follow the given instructions for partitioning sd card for a2sd in the roms corresponding thread.
2. That's not a2sd, it's the "froyo-style app2sd". The difference is, with the froyo one you can only move the application to sd card if the developer programmed the app for it. With a2sd, all apps you install will be automatically moved to a special partition on your sd card, namely sd-ext. You don't have and must not do anything.
You can already download gingerbread from htcdev.com:
http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
3. Rooting gives you many advantages. Most important things are you can backup your apps/settings and your rom, and you can flash custom roms.
4. Of course they are. That's why they named like this.
5. If you follow all guides carefully and don't do something silly, imho the chance the phone bricks is not higher than an untouched stops working.
6. It's very easy. You do it from recovery, where you can backup your previous rom.
7. Yep, but you have to it with an extra program like sms backup & restore:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore&feature=search_result
8. Flash custom roms, backup and restore apps/rom -> better and so awesome desire experience.
9. Most important one is imho titanium backup:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup&feature=search_result
i recently rooted and then unrooted and then rooted and s-off my desire trust me reading the instructions makes its sound more difficult than it is. just read carefully dont take shortcuts and ull be ok.
i rooted as i ran low on space also i like the fact i can delete system apps as i dnt use them.
you can use themes.
there are roms with data2sd or data2whatever, better than app2sd.
just read thru ask some questions of people.they will help u out. boobkmark the pages u want to use i always forget and then can never find the advice again!!!
once ur rooted used unrevoked for that. you can swap roms like there ur socks!! i and many others on here im sure swapped roms hourly let alone daily , u need to see which one fits u the best.
this is just what i no from my very limited experience others on here are much more in the know!
good luck
Use this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
If you follow it exactly you should not brick your phone
Switching roms is easy as long as you read the requirements for each rom, which are usually found within the first two posts on the rom thread
If you use cyanogenmod rom you can use the s2e app from market to move apps to your sd card, imho this is a very easy way to implement app2sd, I'm using this, I have heaps of apps installed and still have plenty of space left
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Read some noob guides you need more knowledge
Thank you very much for the answers!
I downloaded all of the files needed and backed up SMS and contact information and tomorrow I'll root my phone (got more time and patience....).
Just one more quick question: I bought my phone unbranded (on Amazon), so I don't need to make a "gold card", am I right?
Nascor said:
Thank you very much for the answers!
I downloaded all of the files needed and backed up SMS and contact information and tomorrow I'll root my phone (got more time and patience....).
Just one more quick question: I bought my phone unbranded (on Amazon), so I don't need to make a "gold card", am I right?
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You are right. But if I were you, I would made one even so, just in case.
hey guys
I've been looking for an answer for this question for 5 hours but wasn't able to understand what the next step should be.
My Story (not necessary)
I've successfully rooted my HTC Desire (which was a pain because I had to downgrade my phone first and root it with unrevoked on Ubuntu 10.04). I thought the latest version would be supported, actually it didn't change anything! (well it's rooted now after all...)
I was looking for the best method to update the Desire without loosing root. After hours spent on google looking for an answer
I wanted to know:
The best method to update an HTC Desire without loosing root. As far as I understand gingerbread was the 2.3 release and Froyo all the earlier releases.
Where do I get it?
How do I install it?
thanks in advance!!
ps: All methods from 2009 and 2010 wouldn't work for me.
my specs:
Firmware Version: 2.1-update1
Baseband Version: 32.41.00.32U_4.08.00.09
Kernel Version: 2.6.29-0cfb9f166
[email protected] #1
Build number: 1.21.405.2 CL174215 release-keys
Software number: 1.21.405.2
Update using a custom ROM (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=628 for all the threads containing these ROMs, and a how to). I use sebastiaan15's Runnymede AIO which is a Gingerbread with HTC Sense 3.5 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315961) but there are plenty of others on there, depending on what you want. You will keep root, as the Custom ROM will be rooted.
thanks for your quick answer! it really helped me getting a good overview!
still I have one more question:
that means that every custom rom is rooted?
thethodi said:
thanks for your quick answer! it really helped me getting a good overview!
still I have one more question:
that means that every custom rom is rooted?
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Yes, they are rooted.
thethodi said:
thanks for your quick answer! it really helped me getting a good overview!
still I have one more question:
that means that every custom rom is rooted?
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I suppose technically it would be possible for a Custom ROM to not be rooted, but there aren't any that I am aware of, or have ever installed, and I can't see why a dev would produce a non-rooted ROM.
I'd recommend 4ext recovery (install it via the market), so you can take a full ROM backup. That way if you don't like a Custom ROM that you flash, you can just revert back to exactly where you were beforehand. Even if the new ROM won't boot, you can just boot into recovery and restore.
Also, a good idea to use Titanium to do a backup, so that you can then restore your user apps when you're on your new ROM. DON'T restore system when swapping from one ROM to another, or it may very well mess up your new ROM.
Hope that helps. I went through all this, and had all these sorts of questions a couple of months ago, so happy to help you work through it.
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I suppose technically it would be possible for a Custom ROM to not be rooted, but there aren't any that I am aware of, or have ever installed, and I can't see why a dev would produce a non-rooted ROM.
I'd recommend 4ext recovery (install it via the market), so you can take a full ROM backup. That way if you don't like a Custom ROM that you flash, you can just revert back to exactly where you were beforehand. Even if the new ROM won't boot, you can just boot into recovery and restore.
Also, a good idea to use Titanium to do a backup, so that you can then restore your user apps when you're on your new ROM. DON'T restore system when swapping from one ROM to another, or it may very well mess up your new ROM.
Hope that helps. I went through all this, and had all these sorts of questions a couple of months ago, so happy to help you work through it.
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wow thanks, when I first watched the introduction video I thought I wouldn't get that much and awesome help here
There is still a question bothering me:
Concerning SD formatting, there are some guides which say that it is possible to create "virtual ram" by adding a linux swap partition at the end of the sd card, is that actually true? or does that also depend on the rom?
does that really help? (I know that having an ext4,3,2,1 depends on the rom and is used for app2sd)
thanks so much for helping me guys!!
thethodi said:
wow thanks, when I first watched the introduction video I thought I wouldn't get that much and awesome help here
There is still a question bothering me:
Concerning SD formatting, there are some guides which say that it is possible to create "virtual ram" by adding a linux swap partition at the end of the sd card, is that actually true? or does that also depend on the rom?
does that really help? (I know that having an ext4,3,2,1 depends on the rom and is used for app2sd)
thanks so much for helping me guys!!
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You need to have a swap partition with some ROMs (swap partition is not the same as ext partition!). Select ROMs you like the most and read the first posts really carefully. All usefull info are there! Once you have selected the ROM you want to install, prepare your card accordingly, flash the ROM and ENJOY!
thethodi said:
wow thanks, when I first watched the introduction video I thought I wouldn't get that much and awesome help here
There is still a question bothering me:
Concerning SD formatting, there are some guides which say that it is possible to create "virtual ram" by adding a linux swap partition at the end of the sd card, is that actually true? or does that also depend on the rom?
does that really help? (I know that having an ext4,3,2,1 depends on the rom and is used for app2sd)
thanks so much for helping me guys!!
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Hi, I've not found I'd ever need any extra RAM, so I've never bothered with a ROM that needs it. In my humble and limited experience I've not seen any that need a swap partition. An ext partition on the other hand is very useful, as you can install more apps. My sdcard for all 4 ROMs that I often use (Seb15's Runnymede, CM7, Stock Froyo and ICS Beta) just has a 1Gb ext4 partition (for apps2sd) and the rest fat32.