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[Q] Battery lifetime on official OTA Froyo ROM release?

Hi
Any news on how long battery last on the new official release?
Im currently on Pays ROM, and battery last between 24-48 h, with 3g and wifi turned on and daily use of phone, sms and browsing.
Just tried some ROMs that didnt even last a whole day

In 3 hours I have nearly used 50% of battery and that is with 3 short phone calls.
System, cell standby, wifi and phone idle account for 80% usage. Was using a different froyo rom before putting oem one on and did not have this type of drain.
Also not using an app killer as people have been saying that the system can handle the apps, that has not been the case and will install again.

My battery drain has been up massively since I went to 2.2 with the OpenDesire ROM. Phone standby takes most of it. What's causing such excessive usage? Even on the official ROM now :-/
What ROM's are you guys getting best battery with?

You should post on which ROMs you have the battery drain...

I have had massive battery drain on all ROMs until I started using the rooted 2.2 OTA. I would have to charge my phone twice every day but now it's great, I have 65 percent left after a full day of heavy use.
Edit: tried almost every FroYo ROM before this.
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markuz85 said:
I have had massive battery drain on all ROMs until I started using the rooted 2.2 OTA. I would have to charge my phone twice every day but now it's great, I have 65 percent left after a full day of heavy use.
Edit: tried almost every FroYo ROM before this.
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what ROM is great?

markuz85 said:
I have had massive battery drain on all ROMs until I started using the rooted 2.2 OTA. I would have to charge my phone twice every day but now it's great, I have 65 percent left after a full day of heavy use.
Edit: tried almost every FroYo ROM before this.
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Which rooted 2.2 OTA are you talking about? Link pls.

markuz85 said:
I have had massive battery drain on all ROMs until I started using the rooted 2.2 OTA. I would have to charge my phone twice every day but now it's great, I have 65 percent left after a full day of heavy use.
Edit: tried almost every FroYo ROM before this.
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Which ROM are you using? I can't decide which one to download
Battery life is also my only problem with this otherwise amazing phone

Maybe it's the rom/radio combination!?

I had PaysDesire v2.3 before installing the OTA 2.2. The battery with PaysDesire with average use went from 100% to like 60% in 12 hours. With the latest one, i lost 8% in 2 hours but with over average usage. Testing the camera, installing apps, setting up things...
That is why I am still not convinced that the battery sucks on 2.2 and I will wait few days (until the shine wears off, as Coldplay would say) before bringing my final decision.

discohero11 said:
Which rooted 2.2 OTA are you talking about? Link pls.
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Nekromantik said:
what ROM is great?
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The one from ieftm.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741663
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markuz85 said:
The one from ieftm.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741663
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i have also been using this rom and found the battery to be great been using it on and off through the day.
wifi tether, engadget web browsing, email couple of calls texts. i work in a phone shop so i use my phone to demo so it has been ran through it paces.

ljesh said:
I had PaysDesire v2.3 before installing the OTA 2.2. The battery with PaysDesire with average use went from 100% to like 60% in 12 hours. With the latest one, i lost 8% in 2 hours but with over average usage. Testing the camera, installing apps, setting up things...
That is why I am still not convinced that the battery sucks on 2.2 and I will wait few days (until the shine wears off, as Coldplay would say) before bringing my final decision.
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yep ,I now about
you use OTA officiall not ruted

Doesn't you guys' phones' display use most of the battery? For me it's at least 70% of the battery usage.
With SetCpu I use about 1% battery on standby, but as soon as I use it, it drains battery like crazy, even though the brightness is set to 25%...

I am using this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
I took it off charge at 7 a.m. an have used it quite heavily today and the battery is still at 50% so I am pleased.

8 Hours and im on 68 %
2 Hours 3D Gaming and browsing 1 Hour.SmS/Few Calls between.
Official 2.2 Froyo ROM.
Wait for Kernel Sources and i think Battery Drain will fall and fall =)

markuz85 said:
The one from ieftm.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741663
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I'll second that. Definitely getting better battery performance on ieftm's ROM than any of the 2.2 ROM's I've used before including Neophytes's, DeVillain, and various others. I've also got much more memory too.
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you win the prize for the 1000th desire user posting in the wrong section. The moderators are probably going to win their 100th prize for not moving threads/warning people. And we'll just end up with the 10th thread about battery life scattered in every place.
that aside, no rom or os version has changed a fig for me about battery. It's still good in reasonable terms.

jamieyates79 said:
I'll second that. Definitely getting better battery performance on ieftm's ROM than any of the 2.2 ROM's I've used before including Neophytes's, DeVillain, and various others. I've also got much more memory too.
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+1.i am getting really good battery performance on this ROM.
but from my experience even from WinMO you will never find a single ROM on which people would agre on 100% that is good or bad.everyone is getting different results.everyone has different apps instaled,using different combination of services (push mail,wi fi,3G...).
Someone will always claim good battery life and others will say it is crap.this is really about testing what works for you the best.
Sorry for my english guys...

When i have a good connection then my battery is ok. After 16 hours i have still 12%. If my connection is bad (i'm in a building) so it search for connection and lost it again i see the battery drain and my battery is empty after few hours...
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[Q] Question before buying a new desire

I have decided to buy a new Desire phone.I read on many forums that battery backup on Desire is very very bad.I need this phone for gaming atleast 1 hour a day.Whether there are any tricks to increase the battery or the battery backup has no problem?

Desire's battery consumption isn't so good, but to play 1 hour a day, is ok even with stock roms.
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What is the standby time if i give a full charge?

If you're not using it could be around 5 days.
With moderate use 2 days.
Heavy usage 24h.
Sent with smoke signals.

I think with heavy usage phone working 24 hours is not too bad.Tell me what will be the battery life with the following usage:
1.5 hours gaming,1 hour browsing,1 hour music,45 minutes running apps and always running a live wallpaper.

Probably around 24-36 hours.

Is a bit impossibile to know how your battery will "live" with this usage, because not all apps have the same battery drain... so, we can only imagine...
Live wallpapers use a lot of battery, wi-fi drain is more than 2g/3g network drain... i think that using MIUI or AOSP rom, with this usage, you can stay 24h without recharge... with stock roms 12-16 hours maximum...
Sorry if my english isn't perfect

k3lcior said:
Probably around 24-36 hours.
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Agree, around 36 hours.

And also,Can it run latest games without any lag?I need a phone with this budget.I selected Motorola Defy and this one.Which is better?

both are good devices...

ShotMe said:
both are good devices...
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But select anyone from those two.

From these two Desire, but in this price range there is also Samsung Galaxy S which is slightly better from hardware point of view but i would get Desire anyways.

Galaxy S's price is higher in our country.120$ more than these phones.I need a good phone in 340$-360$ price range.And what about HTC Google Nexus One and Sony Ericsson Xperia mini pro?

How to reduce battery drain while using rom?

Hi. Battery drain in sleep mode is really good. Around 0.5 % an hour. But when using 3g internet, battery drain is massive, around 3% per minute. My friend was using his iPhone with similar usage to mine, his drained from 75% to 50%, mine drained from 73% to 20%!
I have brightness on low, GPS and Bluetooth off, and I am using radio 26.13.04.19 which is one that I have found to be good and reliable. Is there anyway to reduce my drain? It's way too much right now. Thank you!
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3% per minute while screen is off means your phone isn't going into sleep mode.
I guess there's an app that keeps your 3G modem active.

Dlog said:
3% per minute while screen is off means your phone isn't going into sleep mode.
I guess there's an app that keeps your 3G modem active.
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No, I think you misunderstand. 3% per minute while using my phone (ie: when screen is on). Like I said, when screen is off, drain is only 0.5% per hour.

Try to switch to EDGE, I had it too before. The drain was caused by a bad and cell tower signal. By switching to EDGE the signal went better, same as the battery drain. Only uses 3G if you're signal/reception is good(above 3 bars).

you can turn off Wifi GPS BT and of course the screen brightness .
iyou need to activate sleep mode beacuse when in this mode you almost dont have battery drain ....

guandms said:
you can turn off Wifi GPS BT and of course the screen brightness .
iyou need to activate sleep mode beacuse when in this mode you almost dont have battery drain ....
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You read before you answer? He said BT, gps and WiFi are turned off and brightness is low.
Which Rom are you using?
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Try different ROM or keep RADIO with corresponding RIL.
Im on Coredroid and battery life is good.

shino82 said:
You read before you answer? He said BT, gps and WiFi are turned off and brightness is low.
Which Rom are you using?
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Currently using IceColdSandwhich
dzuva said:
Try different ROM or keep RADIO with corresponding RIL.
Im on Coredroid and battery life is good.
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I've tried loads of different roms, I don't think that the ROM is the problem.
I'm not using a sense rom right now, so RIL doesn't matter.

Jesus. I just spent 1 minute on facebook and had 4% battery drain! Using mobile network (getting 3 bars of 3g signal). Why does android have to do this to me. I'm jealous of iphone battery life

2-3% per minute during 3g session is pretty normal ,even I am having the same drain ,I have spent months and tried all the tricks in the book (uv script ,reduce CPU speed)to reduce the drain all my efforts have gone down the drain I think we have to live up with this sort of drain...
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Did you make a full wipe before installing custom rom? I would do it then install another time. Afterward change your radio version and have a look at your battery behaviour.
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IceColdSandwich gives me the best battery life Ive ever had.
Just to make sure, is your battery old? Maybe like a year old?

i agree.
i've given up trying to solve my batt issues. i've got icecoldsandwich 6.1. BT,GPS and WIFI is always on. cellular data is on WCDMA preffered. under volted, under clocked and even low vibration mod. screen brightness is at 10%. still drains at 3% per min when using the data. i've got a brand new battery from HTC service centre during this time and it doesnt help. i even started to think that my charging circuit was screwed up :|
got really paranoid..
but i guess the battery drain is pretty normal given the battery capacity

There are some build.prop tweaks that you could try. Related to sleep mode and hsdpa power collapse. Look through this page and add whichever are network and battery saving related (mentioned). Look through your current /system/build.prop and only add what isn't already there. If it's already there, just change the values.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227269
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Schimmel81 said:
Did you make a full wipe before installing custom rom? I would do it then install another time. Afterward change your radio version and have a look at your battery behaviour.
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Yeah I did a full wipe and I've used loads of different batteries
kush4u123 said:
IceColdSandwich gives me the best battery life Ive ever had.
Just to make sure, is your battery old? Maybe like a year old?
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Yeah, I've had my phone for a year, and I'm still using the original battery. It's just unfair that iPhone users get such great battery
sashank said:
There are some build.prop tweaks that you could try. Related to sleep mode and hsdpa power collapse. Look through this page and add whichever are network and battery saving related (mentioned). Look through your current /system/build.prop and only add what isn't already there. If it's already there, just change the values.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227269
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Thanks! I will try some of these.

To save my battery I have started to use Tasker, this is a profile manager. For example You can set up your phone to switch On Data and sync your apps every 30 min or more, instead of have it On all the time. There is a lot of options to set up your phone. For me it is working great and it helped me to lower daily battery drain. You can find other Profile Managers on Google Shop.
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g.zielin said:
To save my battery I have started to use Tasker, this is a profile manager. For example You can set up your phone to switch On Data and sync your apps every 30 min or more, instead of have it On all the time. There is a lot of options to set up your phone. For me it is working great and it helped me to lower daily battery drain. You can find other Profile Managers on Google Shop.
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That doesn't help with the 3% per minute while awake.
And switching data on every 30 minutes often means that you can forget using apps like whatsapp and viber. Most of the time people rely on messages arriving shortly after they were sent.
Image your boyfriend/girlfriend sitting outside in the car and texting you "hurry up! we need to go!!" and you get that message 30 minutes later....
And consider using Llama....it's mostly the same as tasker but free

There is an app called battery calibration that can help with battery life. It helped me

Have compared battery drain with different radios? Some radios I have tried give better signal with higher drain. The M2 one I am using now gives a nice balance but it may differ for depending on your location/reception.

Lewelynn said:
Have compared battery drain with different radios? Some radios I have tried give better signal with higher drain. The M2 one I am using now gives a nice balance but it may differ for depending on your location/reception.
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Yeah, tried many different radios. Been using quite an old M2 one and it seems okay.

How long does your battery last...

...and do you have any pro tips on how you make it last longer.
I get aprox. 9 hours out of my phone with heavy use all day, 806 Max, performance governor with an irc client running and my email fetching from about 5 accounts every 5 min. With Facebook and twitter running in the background.
I personally think that is pretty awesome battery life.
Running Roboto lab build, cm9 alpha 3 core and using the XPSS (extreme power saving service) option
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3-4 hours on hardcore gaming

some 5-6 hours.

One day.Using it for browsing, few calls and few messages.
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benjamingwynn said:
...and do you have any pro tips on how you make it last longer.
I get aprox. 9 hours out of my phone with heavy use all day, 806 Max, performance governor with an irc client running and my email fetching from about 5 accounts every 5 min. With Facebook and twitter running in the background.
I personally think that is pretty awesome battery life.
Running Roboto lab build, cm9 alpha 3 core and using the XPSS (extreme power saving service) option
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This is Awesome. If i Make My phone works as u my battery will die in 3 hrs. Feels Like ROBOT build is going to be a big hit among WFS users. Waiting for it. Keep it up And best of luck.:good:

I must charge my wildfire every night.
Cyanogenmod 7.2 with 806mhz overclocked and synching Facebook and emails every hour.
Nearly the hole day I'm at wireless LAN. Mobile internet takes to much battery life.
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Depends on what I'm doing. If I play games from when its 100 percent charged to 15 percent that's honestly maybe an hour and a half 2 hours if I'm lucky. But I used to use juice defender it helps noticeably.
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4 days minimal use (only calls) 24 hours with browsing and stuff and around 12 when im playig around with the phone games and shtuff. And can anyone link info for roboto. it got my interest but cant seem to find any info.
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OK I take that back I just tested to see how long my battery would last playing a game and it barely lasted am hour from 100% to 25%. I'm pretty shocked and irritated. I think I definitely need a new battery or a new from that's not in beta still, but not too many rooms out there for CD a wfs.
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OMG my battery life is awful since the update to 2.3.5 im having to charge it twice a day and thats using Juice Defender aswell, i use it a lot but only for twitter, messages and Whatsapp, i never play games on it.
i used to be able to go a full day on a charge but that was on the Original 2.3.3 rom
How can i check the health of my battery ?

Running Modpunk's CM9alpha3, 10 hours, cpu set at 805-245, screen at 50%, no 3G, no wifi, only sms.
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battery
48+ hours
on [personal] custom tweaked kernel & rom
I will share one day; right now a lil surprised I was kicked from WFSDEV team w/o notice or provocation... So, the struggle is where you learn anyway.
Rob

A day up to two days on hc miui. I always turn of data when I dont use it.
I hope miui v4 wont be worse.
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Henry_01 said:
A day up to two days on hc miui. I always turn of data when I dont use it.
I hope miui v4 wont be worse.
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Honestly, you are the smartest dev left on that team...
So, I will share.. radio eats up battery and display does.. so, I don't check my emails frequently.. in fact have network off most of the time.. operate on wifi and sip when needed, gps never used.. display at a minimum with a fairly quick timeout.. power saving features in kernel, undervolted and underclocked more and more as battery expires.
Wouldn't release a rom like I use to the general public bc most would consider the stuff I disabled as broken, but I only allow what I use, when I use it... Currently trying to eek 72 hrs out of this lil phone Not gonna make it on this try though.
Rob
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I think ben is talking about heavy use , not leaving your Phone under your bed for two days. Lol
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After I calibrated my wifes WFS it lasts more than 3 days up to a week if there is no usage. Before the calibration she had to charge it every day.
Check Play for "Battery Calibration" and download the app. Charge your phone to 100% and then run the app. Worked great on her WFS and I will see on mine soon.
Of course Sense was mostly disabled/removed and here are no useless widgets for social networks running. Wifi-Off, GPS-Off

which is the best spare battery for wfs. any one using ?
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I used the battery calibration too at the end of the day I have about 40% left with normal use ( a lot of calls a few sms some 3g browsing) I have the lite version of Wildchild gps off data on only when I need it
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CatOnAndroid said:
After I calibrated my wifes WFS it lasts more than 3 days up to a week if there is no usage. Before the calibration she had to charge it every day.
Check Play for "Battery Calibration" and download the app. Charge your phone to 100% and then run the app. Worked great on her WFS and I will see on mine soon.
Of course Sense was mostly disabled/removed and here are no useless widgets for social networks running. Wifi-Off, GPS-Off
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:O
I could probably get that much if I don't touch my phone! Otherwise, a day or day depending on the amount of usage.
Btw, Ben, any chance of us seeing that Roboto ROM soon?

abhi8569 said:
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I use the battery of my broken HTC-Explorer. Its exactly the same model. So the original one can stay in the tray for a while.

[Q] What is the typical battery life on a stock/unrooted One?

First off, I would like to say that I have searched several times for this answer to no avail.
I just came from a Maxx HD (XT926) which obviously had phenomenal battery life. So I'm not terribly surprised by the reduced battery life moving to the One. However, I'm currently only getting about 8 hours off of the charger with 2.5 hours screen time. Via GSam, there do not appear to be any terrible wake locks or rampant apps running in the background. I typically observe a wake time of +/- 10 minutes from my screen on time.
My typical usage right now is some heavy texting, light Facebook browsing, a GroupMe thread, and that's about it.
System settings are generally screen brightness on one bar (from the notification pull down, not sure what the actual percentage is), wifi/bluetooth/gps OFF, NFC and mobile data on all the time.
I have disabled the location via wifi options, so that's not currently a factor either.
What is the typical off charger and screen time for you folks? I love the phone, but a bit frustrated with the ~10% per hour battery drain at idle...
Thanks in advance for any input!

unrooted this seems to be the norm. there's a slew of VZW bloat apps that will check to see if you are using them once an a while, also blink feed refreshing often will have this impact.
right now on rooted Ecliptic rom i can get about 12 hours up time with 3.5 hours screen and still have 45% battery left. This is mainly on 4g some WiFi. this a 4.4 rom and has the options to turn things off the stock system cant like blinkfeed.
-wait till the offical comes out ( rummored to be at the end of this month) it should help-

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unrooted this seems to be the norm. there's a slew of VZW bloat apps that will check to see if you are using them once an a while, also blink feed refreshing often will have this impact.
right now on rooted Ecliptic rom i can get about 12 hours up time with 3.5 hours screen and still have 45% battery left. This is mainly on 4g some WiFi. this a 4.4 rom and has the options to turn things off the stock system cant like blinkfeed.
-wait till the offical comes out ( rummored to be at the end of this month) it should help-
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Thanks, Synisterwolf.
That definitely helps put to bed some of the concerns I was having.
I'm definitely not opposed to rooting, but if I remember correctly, build 2.10.605.1 doesn't yet have an exploit, correct?
Again, thanks for the input.

That seems low to me, even for stock. Granted I debloated even when I was running stock, since I was rooted. I was getting closer to 3.75 hours of screen time for that amount of time off charger. But like I said, I was debloated.
Edit: I also don't use NFC, so that was off too. Not sure how much NFC affects the battery, as I've never really used it on any phone I've had.

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That seems low to me, even for stock. Granted I debloated even when I was running stock, since I was rooted. I was getting closer to 3.75 hours of screen time for that amount of time off charger. But like I said, I was debloated.
Edit: I also don't use NFC, so that was off too. Not sure how much NFC affects the battery, as I've never really used it on any phone I've had.
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there are a lot of things that can make the battery not last. i know the bloat the try to see ya is one of them
@ op no exploit as of yet. but on 4.4 you can go settngs > apps > all apps and click the ones you want to disable. its almost like uninstalling them for the non rooted devices.

I think there's a disable option option in 4.3 as well, so I'll give that a try.
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Completely stock, bloatware disabled. 2.5 hours screen on 14 hours heavy use.
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Ouch... I'm way off then.
Has anyone compiled a list of safely disabled bloatware for these? Or is it kind of trial and error?
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Stock won't let you disable anything that can cause issues, as far as I know.
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Awesome. Now hopefully there's less chance for me to bork my phone.
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With the help of Green Power Premium, my phone lasts 14 hours with moderate use and 8 hours with constant/heavy use. I don't use NFC or Bluetooth and turn off gps when I'm not using Google Maps. Honestly this phone is a god send coming from an Incredible 4G LTE
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You can range between 8 and 16 unrooted stock. Depends on the use age and what you use. I do know with viper ROM and elemental x kernel its has superior deep sleep and hardly uses the battery at all. To give you an example of stock and other ROMs/ kernels I use to get about 14 while at work and finish with about 14% battery life at the end of my 12 hr shift. With my current setup I can go the 14 hr run and have between 75 to 65 percent battery life left and this is with sync active for mail Facebook and so on. So that's just an example of stock vs rooted.
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Dark Jedi said:
You can range between 8 and 16 unrooted stock. Depends on the use age and what you use. I do know with viper ROM and elemental x kernel its has superior deep sleep and hardly uses the battery at all. To give you an example of stock and other ROMs/ kernels I use to get about 14 while at work and finish with about 14% battery life at the end of my 12 hr shift. With my current setup I can go the 14 hr run and have between 75 to 65 percent battery life left and this is with sync active for mail Facebook and so on. So that's just an example of stock vs rooted.
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With moderate use I drain about 40-50% of the battery throughout a 15 hour day. I'm running a battery saving script though which disables 2 minutes after screen off for cellular and 7 for wifi with interval updates. I also disabled a bunch of permissions for apps that I know I'll never need but for apps I frequent. On average I use my GPS for about 20-30 minutes of the day playing Ingress.
If I'm at work I only lose about 35% battery throughout the entire day. I only send/receive a total of about 100 text a day, and don't game other than Ingress. Very light Facebook use, browsing, and such.
Unrooted/Stock

Those usage times are pretty good for stock. I would be happy with anything over 12 hours right now.
I did notice bit better battery life after freezing/disabling some of the stock bloatware, but now I'm trying out an old fallback: JuiceDefender.
So far, it seems to be helping substantially (although it obviously only helps during idle times as it shuts off mobile data until the screen is on/unlocked), but I'll wait until I've had a full cycle before passing any final judgement.

run this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
for 2 days and it will start controlling things in the background based off of how you use your phone. It will manage gps, wifi, data and not allow apps that you don't use regularly run in the background.

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run this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
for 2 days and it will start controlling things in the background based off of how you use your phone. It will manage gps, wifi, data and not allow apps that you don't use regularly run in the background.
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I had heard of this app, never installed it till now though. Would you suggest ditching the JuiceDefender app, or leave it running in conjunction with Battery Guru?

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I had heard of this app, never installed it till now though. Would you suggest ditching the JuiceDefender app, or leave it running in conjunction with Battery Guru?
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I would try just that and see if it helps. It just monitors your usage for the first 48 hours so if you are running other battery savers it might not work as well.
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I'm totally stock and I regularly get 30 or more hours of battery. And I don't just keep my phone on the desk all day. I get 3.5-4 hours screen on time. 10% drain when not using your phone seems like an awful lot.
I have everything off that I don't need or use. That's pretty much it. I'm also on WiFi pretty much all the time too at home and at work. Don't know if that has anything to do with it
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Yeah, WiFi doesn't kill the battery nearly as much as the CDMA/LTE radio does. Unfortunately, I have both poor signal, AND lack of WiFi at work. Haha. Oh well.
30/3.5 would be fantastic. I'm jealous.
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So question, where are you finding these screen on numbers? I looked under battery and the usage part shows apps but not screen on. The graph shows when the screen is on at what point during the day but no durations are given.