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so, i've got way too much time on my hands and was looking for a brushed aluminum style back cover to match our cameras online. I could find nothing. i started looking into the process of melting aluminum, which is surprisingly easy, as is creating the brushed effect. as of right now i currently have my back cover pushed into some drywall mud (no modeling clay) and drying so that i can form the second half of my mold. just thought i would inform you guys of my insanity!
TL;DR : trying to make an aluminum back cover from scratch.

extravillager said:
so, i've got way too much time on my hands and was looking for a brushed aluminum style back cover to match our cameras online. I could find nothing. i started looking into the process of melting aluminum, which is surprisingly easy, as is creating the brushed effect. as of right now i currently have my back cover pushed into some drywall mud (no modeling clay) and drying so that i can form the second half of my mold. just thought i would inform you guys of my insanity!
TL;DR : trying to make an aluminum back cover from scratch.
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I wonder how that will work as far as cooling is concerned. Post some pics when you've got it all set.

dbjungle said:
I wonder how that will work as far as cooling is concerned. Post some pics when you've got it all set.
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I think antenna reception would be a bigger concern. Still, I would totally plunk down some cash to buy one, if you figure out how to do something easily repeatable...

Keep us posted, this sounds like a really cool idea!

i'll definitely let you guys know how it goes. good to know people care because it will keep me from stopping half-way through. haha. i'll probably do most of it this weekend. the drywall mud was pretty dumb, im probably going to use a greensand mold and see what i can do with that. ill just do the dividing line along the back of the back cover.

the bad news: greensand is hard as hell to find at stores or anything
good news: i have scrap aluminum, and i can borrow my girlfriend's dad's propane torch. i went out and bought plaster of paris tonight. Going to set up the mold tomorrow morning and once it is hardened i can start the process of melting+pouring+setting the aluminum in the mold.
turns out walmart sells plaster of paris in a big purple box covered in flowers, which made it somewhat difficult to find considering nobody there knew what it was....

bottom half of the mold is set and drying. here's hoping i can get it back out. haha.

Looks like it might be kinda hard making sure the holes for the speaker are cut out properly!

i made sure the plaster got far enough into the holes to make an imprint, but not far enough to seal the back to the mold.

extravillager said:
i made sure the plaster got far enough into the holes to make an imprint, but not far enough to seal the back to the mold.
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thats good! Do you have a dremel or something else to smoothen out edges? Molds typically create a lot of extra garbage on the side that needs to be cut off... Your using aluminum right?
If yours comes out good and doesnt hinder the signal quality too bad, i think i might do the same

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thats good! Do you have a dremel or something else to smoothen out edges? Molds typically create a lot of extra garbage on the side that needs to be cut off... Your using aluminum right?
If yours comes out good and doesnt hinder the signal quality too bad, i think i might do the same
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yeah, i've got plenty of tools and scrap aluminum. depending on how well it turns out/how it affects the phone i may offer to sell them to people on here.
that isnt to say that buying one will be the only way to get one. I will be sure to post a full and detailed tutorial when i am finished for anyone adventurous enough to attempt it.

No to be a pessimist but did you notice that there is something on the original cover that seems to be taped in the cover? I figure an antenna?
How will you do it?
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I've noticed no difference in signal quality with the back cover removed so I don't think the back cover's antenna helps a whole lot lol.
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stemalo said:
No to be a pessimist but did you notice that there is something on the original cover that seems to be taped in the cover? I figure an antenna?
How will you do it?
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i've been without a back cover while it is setting for about a day now and haven't noticed any adverse effects.

bottom mold is done, and looking pretty good besides a few air bubbles that i need to fill.

You may want to look at the back cover a little more closely. The warning message to not scratch the sheet makes me think the back cover also helps to serve as an antenna possibly??? Not sure, but it seems odd to have the warning.

About the sticker being an antennae, that never crossed my mind. For some reason I always assumed it was something to distribute heat away from the battery.
Both possibilities seem very plausible though.

schwin97 said:
You may want to look at the back cover a little more closely. The warning message to not scratch the sheet makes me think the back cover also helps to serve as an antenna possibly??? Not sure, but it seems odd to have the warning.
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it crossed my mind. however, like i said earlier, i was using the phone without a back for over a day and a half and didnt notice any adverse side effects (aside from the battery falling out.)

schwin97 said:
You may want to look at the back cover a little more closely. The warning message to not scratch the sheet makes me think the back cover also helps to serve as an antenna possibly??? Not sure, but it seems odd to have the warning.
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I think thats for NFC

nfc would be nice. How do we use it if its there?
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Painting Completed-Finished Results

I know there are forums out there that talks about painting the Nexus Housing, but I want instructions that shows that the paint won't rub off, chip, and crack.
Have anyone found instructions that has flawless results that last if done right???

Doubt you'll find such a guarantee as nothing lasts for ever.....

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Doubt you'll find such a guarantee as nothing lasts for ever.....
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True. But I didn't say forever. I said that last.
And by last I mean at least a year. Ice only dropped the phone once between my 7 months. So I'm pretty confident I won't drop it again.

Dragn4rce said:
I know there are forums out there that talks about painting the Nexus Housing, but I want instructions that shows that the paint won't rub off, chip, and crack.
Have anyone found instructions that has flawless results that last if done right???
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Mask properly.
Sand liberally, but not abusively.
Primer optional.
Paint lightly to prevent running.
Multiple layers. Let set in between.
Allow plenty of time to dry.
Use a dust free environment. I recommend rigging a couple CPU fans near it pointing away.
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Mask properly.
Sand liberally, but not abusively.
Primer optional.
Paint lightly to prevent running.
Multiple layers. Let set in between.
Allow plenty of time to dry.
Use a dust free environment. I recommend rigging a couple CPU fans near it pointing away.
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You forgot the oven bake drying or somethin...

Jubomime said:
Mask properly.
Sand liberally, but not abusively.
Primer optional.
Paint lightly to prevent running.
Multiple layers. Let set in between.
Allow plenty of time to dry.
Use a dust free environment. I recommend rigging a couple CPU fans near it pointing away.
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What brand of paint so you recommend for this job???
Don't say of my choosing. I want ur opinion of what would do well for this kind of use.

SysAdmNj said:
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That step is that between which one???

You can also use a paint that has the primer built in but again it is optional. Its not like your painting an orange wall white . Anyways I did I used rustoleum also the key is to LET IT DRY between applications. And do not do multiple applications because it will take forever to dry and u do not have forever as u need ur phone. Beside u only need 4 to 5 light coats. Distribute evenly good luck

sarni84 said:
You can also use a paint that has the primer built in but again it is optional. Its not like your painting an orange wall white . Anyways I did I used rustoleum also the key is to LET IT DRY between applications. And do not do multiple applications because it will take forever to dry and u do not have forever as u need ur phone. Beside u only need 4 to 5 light coats. Distribute evenly good luck
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Thanks.
So you've painted ur phone??? How is it holding up??? And how long have it been???
My dad keeps saying I'm gonna fu×k up and that it will chip no matter what and I'm like, "challenge accepted.:sly:"

A chip is a chip.. but how bad it looks after the chip will depend on how thick the paint is. Considering the material you're painting, I would go with a paint specific for plastics. Try a hobby store that has a good model car section.
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But to be perfectly honest, if you're asking us for painting advice then you probably aren't pro. That means there's a good chance your dad is right. My advice is don't do it. But if you do, mask the **** out of it.
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Don't listen to him (your dad) and so far no chips and everything looks good its been about 3 weeks also. Anyways be careful when taking volume and power rockers off they are easy tho and for the gold pogo pins there is a black bar that goes over them work on each end and pry the bar up it will have a hole on each end. Then when the black bar is off u will see three individual pogo pins u have to stick something against them from outside (like pushing them inward) then they will fallout out. Tape off everything that is important. And remember this will prolly void your warranty so u should grab an extra grey housing and battery cover (if u decide to paint that). I personally am getting the white housing and white battery door I get bored quick

Jubomime said:
A chip is a chip.. but how bad it looks after the chip will depend on how thick the paint is. Considering the material you're painting, I would go with a paint specific for plastics. Try a hobby store that has a good model car section.
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Alright. Thanks for that.

I have a dumb question, how come the paint doesn't chip of a car easily if you paint a fiber glass part.
My dad has a bumper and it came white and got it painted black and not a single chip.

sarni84 said:
Don't listen to him (your dad) and so far no chips and everything looks good its been about 3 weeks also. Anyways be careful when taking volume and power rockers off they are easy tho and for the gold pogo pins there is a black bar that goes over them work on each end and pry the bar up it will have a hole on each end. Then when the black bar is off u will see three individual pogo pins u have to stick something against them from outside (like pushing them inward) then they will fallout out. Tape off everything that is important. And remember this will prolly void your warranty so u should grab an extra grey housing and battery cover (if u decide to paint that). I personally am getting the white housing and white battery door I get bored quick
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Yeah I'm gonna buy a new one before doing this and use the old one as my test since it has dings and scratches on it.

sarni84 said:
I personally am getting the white housing and white battery door I get bored quick
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I have the Verizon i515 version.
The only thing available is the white door.
Damn those sellers!!!!! Selling stuff half way.

Vinyl dye bonds directly to plastic, dries in minutes, and won't chip or scratch away. Just 2-3 light coats is all you need for good coverage. The only limitation is that you don't have much choice in the color or finishes.

earlyberd said:
Vinyl dye bonds directly to plastic, dries in minutes, and won't chip or scratch away. Just 2-3 light coats is all you need for good coverage. The only limitation is that you don't have much choice in the color or finishes.
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Love that word. Bond.

Jubomime said:
But to be perfectly honest, if you're asking us for painting advice then you probably aren't pro. That means there's a good chance your dad is right. My advice is don't do it. But if you do, mask the **** out of it.
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I know how to paint.
Just don't know what to do with a housing that gonna be rubbed against my skin and pants.

Dragn4rce said:
Love that word. Bond.
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It's a good word for what vinyl dye does. I've been using it for years when painting game controllers and have never had it wear off.

How to replace just the glass lens on the at&t galaxy s3

Pretty much all you need in the title. I wanted to know how to do this mainly because it's cheaper then buying a lCD digitizer combo and because I can't find a guide anywhere else. Any tips and tricks on how to do this should be well appreciated and any guides. Thanks in andVance for anyone's help.
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Backslash10 said:
Pretty much all you need in the title. I wanted to know how to do this mainly because it's cheaper then buying a lCD digitizer combo and because I can't find a guide anywhere else. Any tips and tricks on how to do this should be well appreciated and any guides. Thanks in andVance for anyone's help.
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I also have a cracked the screen, What my search result has come up with is the cost to replace the screen is ~$200CDN. Can you please keep me posted on what path you would be taking, might just follow

Replacing the glass from the actual screen is very hard and would require tons of technical know-how because the two are fused together.
Not recommended, even by experts.

Well I know it's extremely hard but I'm mainly looking for advise about it is all it decently help people out here.
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Backslash10 said:
Well I know it's extremely hard but I'm mainly looking for advise about it is all it decently help people out here.
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it's not possible to do. period.

Really I thought I could be done but took a lot of waiting and just the right heat and pressure.
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dLo GSR said:
it's not possible to do. period.
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Nice
Op
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1904554

it is very possible I have done 4 of them already...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1890708

dLo GSR said:
it's not possible to do. period.
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hahahah.....owned, should really atleast attempt to find out if what you are saying has any evidence to support it, or rebut it

dLo GSR said:
it's not possible to do. period.
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I've heard its possible, just EXTREMELY difficult to manage.. I wouldn't.

Its entirely possible, as the multiple video's have shown. Although i haven't done it to the SGS3 yet, i will be soon. Cracked my lens the other day, replacement in the mail. I have also changed the screen's on several iphones (at my job) which us a similar method of gluing. It is made to be difficult by design...to keep people from attempting it and opting to send it in for repair. Of course when you do this, through samsung anyways, you are being charged for the entire led assembly and not just the lens.

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Its entirely possible, as the multiple video's have shown. Although i haven't done it to the SGS3 yet, i will be soon. Cracked my lens the other day, replacement in the mail. I have also changed the screen's on several iphones (at my job) which us a similar method of gluing. It is made to be difficult by design...to keep people from attempting it and opting to send it in for repair. Of course when you do this, through samsung anyways, you are being charged for the entire led assembly and not just the lens.
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Good to hear you did it at your job with iphones. Any idea what glue they use to bond the glass to the digitizer? I have searched and searched and cannot find anything. I have done several S3 so far and this is the one ingredient lacking for a complete repair. In terms of what it feels like while removing the old glue; it seems to be silicone based the way it comes up, you can roll it into little balls, it's is tacky and has that rubbery consistency.

Unfortunately, no idea what adhesive they use. Personally i would attempt what YellowGTO did first and simply heat the existing glue and see how it holds. Normally this should be enough to do the job, as you can imagine the stuff if pretty tacky. Especially if the lens fits as tightly as his in the video, its doubtful it will fall out even with the slightest remaining glue. If for whatever reason there isn't enough to firmly hold the screen in place i've used small dabs of liquid tape where necessary, or the thin 3M double sided tape would work also i suppose. In this case i usually wrap the device in a towel or shirt or whatever you have laying around and set something with some decent weight on top of it, screen side down on a flat surface, overnight to give the adhesive time to setup properly.

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Unfortunately, no idea what adhesive they use. Personally i would attempt what YellowGTO did first and simply heat the existing glue and see how it holds. Normally this should be enough to do the job, as you can imagine the stuff if pretty tacky. Especially if the lens fits as tightly as his in the video, its doubtful it will fall out even with the slightest remaining glue. If for whatever reason there isn't enough to firmly hold the screen in place i've used small dabs of liquid tape where necessary, or the thin 3M double sided tape would work also i suppose. In this case i usually wrap the device in a towel or shirt or whatever you have laying around and set something with some decent weight on top of it, screen side down on a flat surface, overnight to give the adhesive time to setup properly.
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Sure the outer frame is enough in most cases to hold it on, thats fine. But there is a side effect once all the glue is removed off the digitizer. There will a micro gap between the 2 when the original glue is removed. If you press the new glass hard enough, ( for example cleaning fingerprints like I often do against my shirt ) and it touches the digitizer, the phone freezes. You must then power off the screen, sleep button and then press power again to bring it up and then it will work again. Seems to be a recalibration process going on.
Maybe these 2 posts should be merged and I would certainly read the post below. Much more good info here on the subject...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33056057#post33056057

Yea, i've been following several threads about lens replacement, even before i busted mine (jinxed myself?). I'd much rather have to deal with a 15 second reboot over possibly damaging the LED or worse using an adhesive that may not be transparent. I can live with the air gap, or even the 'invisible' smudges on my personal device...although if i were going to do this for profit obviously that would be unacceptable. 20 dollars and an hour of my time vs 200+ for the whole assembly or 125 for an insurance deductable..i can overlook imprefections . It would be interesting to find out exactly what substance they are using though.
EDIT - Just for SnG's i googled 'mobile screen glue' and this was the first result. http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/523467689/Optical_Clear_Adhesive_for_touch_screen.html?s=p
While i'm sure its not the only product out there for this purpose, if this is any indication it won't come cheap..

dntesinfrno said:
Yea, i've been following several threads about lens replacement, even before i busted mine (jinxed myself?). I'd much rather have to deal with a 15 second reboot over possibly damaging the LED or worse using an adhesive that may not be transparent. I can live with the air gap, or even the 'invisible' smudges on my personal device...although if i were going to do this for profit obviously that would be unacceptable. 20 dollars and an hour of my time vs 200+ for the whole assembly or 125 for an insurance deductable..i can overlook imprefections . It would be interesting to find out exactly what substance they are using though.
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Agreed it would be nice to find out what type of glue.
The phone breaks so easy i am surprised I have not heard of a Class Action Lawsuit... :silly:

here are instructions on replacing just the glass/screen
[HOW TO] [TUTORIAL] S3 Replace Cracked Glass Screen w/ YouTube Video
i replaced my screen took me about 50 mins with 2 people

XeoNoX said:
here are instructions on replacing just the glass/screen
[HOW TO] [TUTORIAL] S3 Replace Cracked Glass Screen w/ YouTube Video
i replaced my screen took me about 50 mins with 2 people
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Very very nice!! :thumbup::thumbup:
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marcustaz said:
Very very nice!! :thumbup::thumbup:
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JUst did an even EASIER replacement for a cracked camera lens. I purchased this part from ebay :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Blue-Housin.../271099346918?ssPageName=ADME:L:eek:C:US:3160
1) Turn phone off
2) Take off battery cover
3) Remove battery, SIM card, and SD Card
4) remove about 8 screws to remove the middle back place.
5) Remove middle back place carefully (There are still tabs holding it secure)
6) Place new middle back in place
7) Screw down
8) Replace battery, SIM card, and SD card
9) Replace battery cover
10) Power up phone!!
Took all of 10 minutes total. Flawless fix on my AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 3

Gentlemen and OP please update your original post to include this video. This is NOT to promote myself but from all the comments and feedback everyone has stated it is the most detailed and informative on You Tube on the glass replacement procedure. I also have separate videos on shattered glass replacement. Thanks and good luck.

My Note 2 got bent???

I know this might sound wired but ya the title says it all!!!
I woke up in the morning i felt that the note is slightly bent as in its raised on the left hand side of the phone!!
I have a bad habit of keeping the note 2 next to me while sleeping so i must've rolled on top of it last night!!
Is it possible for it to happen in the first place???
Or may be keeping in my pocket of tight pants and riding the bike can do that to my note 2??
I'm shocked!! Its been hardly 15 days since i bought it!!

Bunny2rock said:
I know this might sound wired but ya the title says it all!!!
I woke up in the morning i felt that the note is slightly bent as in its raised on the left hand side of the phone!!
I have a bad habit of keeping the note 2 next to me while sleeping so i must've rolled on top of it last night!!
Is it possible for it to happen in the first place???
Or may be keeping in my pocket of tight pants and riding the bike can do that to my note 2??
I'm shocked!! Its been hardly 15 days since i bought it!!
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well this seems impossible as though the phone make is plastic it cant bent if you have rolled on top as the mattress is soft enough to protect the impact or rather it could have broken due to body pressure and to the contrary i have been carrying the phone in my jeans riding my bike to for the last 3 months and no issues whatsoever.
can you post screen of the bent position

I'm calling shenanigans.
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lyall29 said:
I'm calling shenanigans.
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Im taking pic with different cams but that slight bent is not visible in those pics so thats why wasnt responding buddy!! anyways I ll try something in order to show my note

N2 is a big phone, I carry mine in my pocket too, but I try to keep it safe from bending. Its a fact that its easy to bend such a big and long phone but riding a bicycle and bending it is a bit weird, we are waiting for pictures and further posting from you. And if thats true, try to use your warranty and get a new one? You might get lucky!
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Is it really bent.... than thats one in a million production. Sounds weird thou...

I've seen videos of product testing for the GN2, and one test involved twisting the phone. It always returned to its original shape, and the twist was quite severe. You'd need a lot of force to bend this phone beyond the yield point and I'm not sure you can reach it by rolling over it on a bed. Check the battery, if you haven't already, maybe it's defective, bulging out and bending the phone in the process.
I've also carried my phone in different pockets on my bike since I got it, 1-2 months after it came out. I even fell on it once when my front wheel slipped on a patch of ice. There is a slight ripple in the glass now, only noticeable at a sharp angle, but I don't know if it's from my fall or just a manufacturing issue. Either way, I'm quite impressed with the phone's durability. If falling ass-first on it on the hard icy pavement didn't break it, I'm sure rolling over it in bed wouldn't either. I'd check it thoroughly to be certain that they couldn't blame me for damaging it and send it to warranty.

It doesn't make sense because the front panel which basically made of hardened glass shouldn't bend. If anything any stress beyond its limit will end up breaking it. Anyways, try getting a clear shot otherwise people will have a hard time believing you.
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bushako said:
It doesn't make sense because the front panel which basically made of hardened glass shouldn't bend. If anything any stress beyond its limit will end up breaking it. Anyways, try getting a clear shot otherwise people will have a hard time believing you.
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Exactly.
I would think that the only way to bend a glass panel would be to use an extreme amount of heat, like a torch. You would have to heat up the glass until glows red, and then bend the it. I just googled "how to bend glass" and here is a link for anyone interested, http://m.wikihow.com/Bend-Glass
You could possibly flex it, but it should snap right back into its original shape. Besides, the rest of the phone is a fairly flexible plastic.
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lyall29 said:
Exactly.
I would think that the only way to bend a glass panel would be to use an extreme amount of heat, like a torch. You would have to heat up the glass until glows red, and then bend the it. I just googled "how to bend glass" and here is a link for anyone interested, http://m.wikihow.com/Bend-Glass
You could possibly flex it, but it should snap right back into its original shape. Besides, the rest of the phone is a fairly flexible plastic.
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Well there you have it. Obviously he was riding his bike on the sun!
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adytum said:
Well there you have it. Obviously he was riding his bike on the sun!
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LOL!! ROFL!!!
I got my note 2 replaced!!! Lucky Me!!! The service center was arguing that its a slight bend so no problem sir!! I went mad and shouted at the tip of my voice spoke to the GM of my city!! Got a new Phone!!:laugh::laugh::laugh::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::angel:

Bunny2rock said:
LOL!! ROFL!!!
I got my note 2 replaced!!! Lucky Me!!! The service center was arguing that its a slight bend so no problem sir!! I went mad and shouted at the tip of my voice spoke to the GM of my city!! Got a new Phone!!:laugh::laugh::laugh::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::angel:
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Oh Yeah! So they agreed there's a slight bend.... u got a sharp eye yeah. That's good!

Xperia z compact left side slightly misaligned?

Hi, I just got the phone yesterday and right away I noticed that the left side of the aluminum framing is a little off?
It's hard to notice but if everybody can please take a moment and look at the left side, where the magnetic charging port, does that section tend to extrude a little more than the rest of the frame? Compare that part to the port flaps on top from an angle and you should see that the charging port section is extruding a little more ?
Thanks for your time and replies.
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hmm, 50 views and nobody replied, does that mean nobody is having the same problem? just a defective unit ?

There is in other z1c devices too. Not all. Don't worry, I don't think it is a defect. Everything works as it should including magnetic charger and water resistance!

So in some devices, they aluminum frames are perfectly aligned while others are not and it's not considered a defect? I don't quite follow the logic here. Anybody else has a slight misalignment? It's not major but on an angle you can tell that the Magnetic charging port is slightly different compared to the flaps on top.
sachilleas said:
There is in other z1c devices too. Not all. Don't worry, I don't think it is a defect. Everything works as it should including magnetic charger and water resistance!
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A picture equals 1000 words .. why not you take a picture with that iPhone you have and post it here so I can actually understand what misalignment are you talking about ?

Lusterboi said:
So in some devices, they aluminum frames are perfectly aligned while others are not and it's not considered a defect? I don't quite follow the logic here. Anybody else has a slight misalignment? It's not major but on an angle you can tell that the Magnetic charging port is slightly different compared to the flaps on top.
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I'm sorry if my answer didn't please you but behaving that way doesn't help. Not only you didn't even thank me for my answer but you are also aggressive questioning my logic. Bye bye.

attached you will find a photo example. its hard to tell from the picture i posted but at least you'll know where to look.
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A picture equals 1000 words .. why not you take a picture with that iPhone you have and post it here so I can actually understand what misalignment are you talking about ?
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sachilleas said:
I'm sorry if my answer didn't please you but behaving that way doesn't help. Not only you didn't even thank me for my answer but you are also aggressive questioning my logic. Bye bye.
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Have I offended you in anyway? In my post, I wasn't refering to your logic that I didn't follow, I'm referring to Sony. If there are obvious units out there with perfect alignment and some that aren't perfect, Sony should refer to those as defective units and issue a recall to fix it, no? It's a premium device after all. Didnt mean to offend you if i did, I'm sorry.

Lusterboi said:
its hard to tell from the picture i posted
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So post one that highlights what you're talking about, i.e face on.

I don't have the phone with me at work today, but those of you who have the phone with you, maybe you can pick it up and view it a little. The frame where the magnetic charging port sits, seems to protrude a little more than the frame near the flap areas.
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So post one that highlights what you're talking about, i.e face on.
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Lusterboi said:
I don't have the phone with me at work today, but those of you who have the phone with you, maybe you can pick it up and view it a little. The frame where the magnetic charging port sits, seems to protrude a little more than the frame near the flap areas.
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If I stare at mine hard enough, I think I can see the part around the charger protruding slightly more than above and below it. But the difference is very small and not noticeable unless you're looking for it.

This is mine .. I do not see the misalignment you have highlighted in your picture ...

ro_explorer said:
This is mine .. I do not see the misalignment you have highlighted in your picture ...
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Look at angle from slightly bottom up, it's very minimum but once you find it, you can tell that the flap areas are more indented than the magnetic charging ports. I saw it last night once I got the phone. Try to turn the phone a little while you're looking at it, if the phone is sitting down on the table its very hard to tell. You have to be holding it and looking at the frame while moving the phone around. I just need to make sure that it'ts not a defective unit and that's how these phones were made. If not I'll return the phone for a replacement. All else with the phone is fine though. I'll also stop by a local store later to check out the z1 and z1s to see if they have the same problem.

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If I stare at mine hard enough, I think I can see the part around the charger protruding slightly more than above and below it. But the difference is very small and not noticeable unless you're looking for it.
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yup, exactly what I saw. it is minimum and hardly noticeable. but once i see it, i cannot ignore it.

Your OCD it's way bigger than mine...
To be honest I don't really care about such "misalignment". If you don't see it or means it's not there, right?
// sent from my phone //

ro_explorer said:
Your OCD it's way bigger than mine...
To be honest I don't really care about such "misalignment". If you don't see it or means it's not there, right?
// sent from my phone //
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okay here are the updated photos that i took. notice that on the left side, its not completely straight because of the extra protruding from the magnetic charger port.

I was kidding earlier with the OCD .
To be honest, I do not see anything wrong in the pictures. Maybe I really can not see it. You need to get right the reflections in order to evidentiate such think in a photo.
Bottom line: if YOU do not like it, go ahead and exchange it or return it. Anyway, the small, fine details, that you are looking after, will not be at the level of an iPhone. That's a fact.

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okay here are the updated photos that i took. notice that on the left side, its not completely straight because of the extra protruding from the magnetic charger port.
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I don't see anything either in those photos.
To be sure that you're not just seeing an optical illusion from the reflections of the changing surface along that edge, why not just take a ruler to it and measure? Or place on a piece of paper and trace an outline? Does it wobble if you rest it on that edge?
You'll never be certain if you just rely on your eyes.

This is mine.

Lusterboi said:
okay here are the updated photos that i took. notice that on the left side, its not completely straight because of the extra protruding from the magnetic charger port.
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The way you've applied your screen protector would be more annoying. Lay the left side on a flat surface and that will highlight it more, but to me it looks like the protective plastic is giving the illusion that it is.