I would like to have new Htc task manerger/File Manerger on my wildfire I have seen it on description of roms such as No Limits and NextSense Revoulotion
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Sayem Ahmed
Next sense and No limit Roms are still experimental... task managers in those roms may not work well in those roms itself since those roms itself are not functional mostly... Try searching for Task manager in Market.. hopefully you may find what you want...
advanced task killer from market is pretty standard. but CM7 already has minfree values set quite aggressivly which is basically an internal task killer that terminates apps not in use for a set period of time. so really you dont need a task killer for everyday use. only to kill persistent apps every now and again.
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I am a noob when it comes to android phones so anything will help! I have been told and pretty sure I read something about task killers being bad for your android phone??? Is this true? I currently use Advanced Task Manager free. Is this a good task manager? If not does anyone know of one thats better. I tried to search the forumn but was unable to find anything on this subject...I'm probably just searching wrong. Any knowledge will help!
Try searching the Q&A forum
Don't use task killers is the bottom line.
Use Google search to find out about google and task killers.
avoid them like the plague
Not. It's stepping on Androids toes. If you really need a kill an app (froze or its just using a lot of battery), you can do it in Android itself in Applications.
i noticed i acctually get more battery life with out a task killer, android will close out programs as it needs the memory any way so have had better performance with out it. the Sprint rep actually installed mine on my phone when i bought it so was suprised to learn all this at first but has long sense proven true
Been using Advanced Task Manager since I had my G1 and have not noticed any negative effects. The browser alone takes up a considerable amount of interal memory and does not close on exit. Task managers are good as long as you know how to use them and exclude system applications or user apps that you want to stay running like widgets and such. They may not improve battery life that much, but they help free up internal memory. However, if you're running a Froyo rom, they're pretty much useless until the app devs update the way they work. Froyo doesnt allow them to kill the app, just background data.
Here's some pretty clear literature on why you absolutely do not need them.
While I agree that a task killer is not needed it is not bad. I mean using one wont cause damage to your phone or anything. Some people get better battery with one and some get better battery without. I just avoid task killers because I had a bad experience. I use my phone as an alarm and one day it did not go off because I had killed the clock app. Ofcourse you can use a task killer and not have this problem by setting apps to ignore but after several weeks of not using it I noticed my battery is not better or worse so to each his own.
BTW I also used advanced task manager and thats a perfectly good task manager if you do decide to keep using it.
Best thing you can do is install and use it for a couple days to see if you like it. I have used one since my Droid and would not consider uninstalling. I notice an immediate improvement in the smoothness of my phone while using, and a noticeable choppiness when not using. Your mileage may vary, but I would give it a shot for yourself vs. just listening to others opinions.
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While I agree that a task killer is not needed it is not bad. I mean using one wont cause damage to your phone or anything.
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If you kill a task and free up memory, Android just fills up that memory again with a program of its own choosing. If it needs the memory, it intelligently pulls programs out of memory on its own.
Which task killer actually works for CM7 Stable Release?... I can't find one.
Thats because task killers died in android 2.1! Your phone is smart enough to know what to close, what to keep open, and what processes to keep in memory. Try tasker and see if that's something you could use.
Hi there.
Is there any difference between the Task Manager (Gingerbread) and those Task Killers out there? Its similar isn't it? As it will kill run applications.
I notice that many are advising not to use Task Killers as it will drain your battery even more.
Thanks.
superstick1 said:
I notice that many are advising not to use Task Killers as it will drain your battery even more.
Thanks.
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your right, its pointless using task killers.. android has a built it task killer where if certain apps use a certain amount of memory when idle are "killed"
and yes they use more resources/battery than they gain
superstick1 said:
Hi there.
Is there any difference between the Task Manager (Gingerbread) and those Task Killers out there? Its similar isn't it? As it will kill run applications.
I notice that many are advising not to use Task Killers as it will drain your battery even more.
Thanks.
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Wee meet again lol...
U have a lot of doubts !
True...task killers are not recommended for versions of android upper than eclair 2.1... Because froyo already has good tark manager tweaked in sistem features.... This manager knows which proccess of the sistem or apk's must to close...
The task killer apks are generics and kills everything including process necesarys for correct function of the android OS...
IN ADition... Task killers provokes that the system has better performance and more free RAM...but its not good for battery..
Manager included its specific and equilibrated...
Task killers are not good for 2.2 or 2.3...
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You can browse for task killers threads in the browse.. its a common question
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Hmm ok. I guess I have a rough idea now. The Task Manager is designed to kill the unnecessary ones. Hence saving memory and space?
On the other hand, Task Killers out there are designed to kill ALL applications. Both necessary and unnecessary applications (hence consuming more battery as it needs to restart the whole process again).
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hence saving memory and space?
On the other hand, task killers out there are designed to kill all applications. Both necessary and unnecessary applications (hence consuming more battery as it needs to restart the whole process again).
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good conclussion and soo exact..
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Wee meet again lol...
U have a lot of doubts !
True...task killers are not recommended for versions of android upper than eclair 2.1... Because froyo already has good tark manager tweaked in sistem features.... This manager knows which proccess of the sistem or apk's must to close...
The task killer apks are generics and kills everything including process necesarys for correct function of the android OS...
IN ADition... Task killers provokes that the system has better performance and more free RAM...but its not good for battery..
Manager included its specific and equilibrated...
Task killers are not good for 2.2 or 2.3...
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Hmm ok. I guess I have a rough idea now. The Task Manager is designed to kill the unnecessary ones. Hence saving memory and space?
On the other hand, Task Killers out there are designed to kill ALL applications. Both necessary and unnecessary applications (hence consuming more battery as it needs to restart the whole process again).
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ei @super! i found a very very interesting thread about your question in Xda with graphicals, several explanations etc... i was read it and i think that its cool to understand the TASK MANAGEMENT OF LINUX/ANDROID:
[FAQ] Why You Shouldn't Be Using a Task Killer with Android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1080666
I had to take my phone back today because of bad battery life, as it was not going for four hours without needing a charge. This phone was only two weeks old.
The manager in the 3 store in the uk would not even entertain me because i did not have a task manager installed and said for me to get any kind of warranty i should use a task manager first then come back to the store.
What happened next was a full blown argument and at the end i demanded to speak to the area manager on the phone.
Long story short, I got my phone changed and before I left I showed her the way to kill running apps on gingerbread.
These store reps are clueless.
Quick question, using a task killer with Cmod7 has the same effects as using it with froyo (faster battery draining, instability etc.) or it's safe to use? I noticed that running apps (those in the background and useless) makes my wildfire lag, but when i close some of them (that really shouldn't have any reason to stay open) it starts again to run smoothly...
So, should i or should i not install a task killer?
I personally use a task killer, I don't set it to autokill and just use it to help manually kill apps that I don't need in the background.
I couldn't cope without one.
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I don't use one, I have 180+ free MB on my wildfire on CM7 (not using that many apps or widgets).
I would not advice to use one, but if your wildfire lags than you can perhaps indeed close an app now or then (as I did when i was back on stock ROM and it bacame laggy sometimes). Make sure it's an app that is not used by any other program (like a game or so) and that doesn't matter if closed or not
what you must understand is that Android does not use memory (RAM) like a PC does, keeping apps "open" in the background is actually a good thing, as they can be opened a lot quicker, and "full" memory does not slow the phone down as Android has pretty good task managing abilities of it's own, and does not need any help or intervention. Using task killers will only slow down your phone, cause issues, and give you worse battery life. The best thing you can do to your phone is to not install a task killer.
I understand how it works, but disagree slightly with what your saying..........
I have always used advanced task killer pro, like I said not set to auto kill.
I have never had any issues with battery or my system slowing because of it and I have used it on just about every rom there is, the reason I use it is after a while I'd say a few hours using my phone it starts to slow because of all the apps laying dormant in the background and I don't feel the built on model deals with them like I personally would. So instead of using the built in android task manager which does take a while if there's a lot of apps there that don't need to be using task killer is much quicker to close all the useless ones. I think if it was set to autokill it may cause problems with some apps and battery but used wisely it keeps my system flowing nice and smooth.
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Well, thnx guys for the replays, I guess I'll not install a task killer, but in doubt, I'll continue to kill obsolete and not necessary processes when lagging..
Hi All,
I switched my Desire to Desire Z recently. I think Desire Z is a really good phone but I have an issue what really makes me crazy. I want to use only two programs all day long in same time. The first is Opera mini, the second is Adobe acrobat reader. Usually I read pdf while I'm waiting for the web browser so I switch between these two tasks. But the task killer of 2.3.3 android is really intolerant on Desire Z (much more intolerant than the 2.2 on Desire). Sometimes it gives 30 mins to the background task to kill, sometimes one sec is enough to kill (on Desire with 2.2, the task killer gives 1-5 hours to the background tasks before it kills them. I used the same programs on Desire).
The reported free RAM is ~150 MB based on Settings/running services and ~75 MB free based on Zbox task manager (when Opera and PDF reader are still in the memory). I don't really understand the differences but the essence is that I have enough free RAM. Of course there are no unnecessary programs, services, widgets, auto task killers running. I just want to run two bloody programs in the same time. Is this a too big expectation? I'm accustomed to the multitasking operation systems since my Amiga 500 so this task killer system is a real pain in my ass now. I'm looking for an application what protects my main tasks from the task killer of the Androd OS but I haven't find yet. Do anyone has a solution for my problem? The protected task switch on task killers (for example Zbox's task killer) protects only from it's own task killer but not the task killer of the OS. Sense is a main thing why I bought HTC phones so "find a ROM what gives you more free RAM" is also not an option. (And I DO have free RAM .
Thanks for the help: Chris
Chris_mi said:
Hi All,
I switched my Desire to Desire Z recently. I think Desire Z is a really good phone but I have an issue what really makes me crazy. I want to use only two programs all day long in same time. The first is Opera mini, the second is Adobe acrobat reader. Usually I read pdf while I'm waiting for the web browser so I switch between these two tasks. But the task killer of 2.3.3 android is really intolerant on Desire Z (much more intolerant than the 2.2 on Desire). Sometimes it gives 30 mins to the background task to kill, sometimes one sec is enough to kill (on Desire with 2.2, the task killer gives 1-5 hours to the background tasks before it kills them. I used the same programs on Desire).
The reported free RAM is ~150 MB based on Settings/running services and ~75 MB free based on Zbox task manager (when Opera and PDF reader are still in the memory). I don't really understand the differences but the essence is that I have enough free RAM. Of course there are no unnecessary programs, services, widgets, auto task killers running. I just want to run two bloody programs in the same time. Is this a too big expectation? I'm accustomed to the multitasking operation systems since my Amiga 500 so this task killer system is a real pain in my ass now. I'm looking for an application what protects my main tasks from the task killer of the Androd OS but I haven't find yet. Do anyone has a solution for my problem? The protected task switch on task killers (for example Zbox's task killer) protects only from it's own task killer but not the task killer of the OS. Sense is a main thing why I bought HTC phones so "find a ROM what gives you more free RAM" is also not an option. (And I DO have free RAM .
Thanks for the help: Chris
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Autokiller Memory Manager is exactly what you need to use those two programs at the same time. Download it for free on the Market and read the FAQ and documentation about the advanced settings. This is single handidly the best app for getting your phone to behave the way you want in regards to memory management. Hope this helps!
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Autokiller Memory Manager is exactly what you need to use those two programs at the same time. Download it for free on the Market and read the FAQ and documentation about the advanced settings. This is single handidly the best app for getting your phone to behave the way you want in regards to memory management. Hope this helps!
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Hi,
Thanks for the quick reply. You mean AutoKiller Memory Optimizer I guess (no AutoKiller Memory Manager in the market). That oom (out of memory) priority could help. Unfortunatelly my phone has Gingerbread and not rooted so this oom settings doesn't work. So the next step is to find an easy to use and safe Desire Z root stuff.
Thanks a lot again!
Chris
Hi. You shouldn't be using a task killer. Android manages applications better than you can or a task killer can.
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Right, you should not be using a task killer, but may I ask what rom you are running?
Try using v6 Supercharger
Cimer said:
Right, you should not be using a task killer, but may I ask what rom you are running?
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The way I'm reading this, he's not using a third-party task killer. He's complaining that Android memory management is killing the tasks he wants to keep running.
Hi,
Yes, you're right. I'm not using task killers, my problem is with the Android memory maneger. I'm using stock 2.3.3 ROM and would'nt like to switch to a cooked ROM.
Chris
burtcom said:
The way I'm reading this, he's not using a third-party task killer. He's complaining that Android memory management is killing the tasks he wants to keep running.
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android has its own task manager... and from what I've learned the built in task manager learns from the user... when did you buy the phone? how long do you have it? if its not long, here's an idea:
try charging the phone over night while checking the "keep screen on while charging", go to the acrobat, let it open and leave it as it is all night, and be sure NOT to turn off the screen...
the task manager notices how much time you spent opening this app, and eventually will put it as high priority...
also do this with the browser
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Hi,
I bought this phone about two weeks ago. I'm a little bit sceptic about this solution but this idea is amazingly elegant so I have to try .
Thanks for the help: Chris
Riro Zizo said:
android has its own task manager... and from what I've learned the built in task manager learns from the user... when did you buy the phone? how long do you have it? if its not long, here's an idea:
try charging the phone over night while checking the "keep screen on while charging", go to the acrobat, let it open and leave it as it is all night, and be sure NOT to turn off the screen...
the task manager notices how much time you spent opening this app, and eventually will put it as high priority...
also do this with the browser
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Have a look into enabling SWAP. Makes my stock ROM run really smooth.
You'll need a rooted phone, a custom kernel (I use Unity V9) and to repartition your SD card with Clockworkmod (Update to latest before use)
Unity Kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1121937
SWAP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1323447
Craig