Which task killer actually works for CM7 Stable Release?... I can't find one.
Thats because task killers died in android 2.1! Your phone is smart enough to know what to close, what to keep open, and what processes to keep in memory. Try tasker and see if that's something you could use.
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So I upgraded to 2.2 with the downloadable rom yesterday and was wondering what is going on with the Task killers. I read on some of the comments for the app that on 2.2 task killers are not needed for some reason or another, can anyone confirm??
zackhow said:
So I upgraded to 2.2 with the downloadable rom yesterday and was wondering what is going on with the Task killers. I read on some of the comments for the app that on 2.2 task killers are not needed for some reason or another, can anyone confirm??
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Task killers were never needed and can actually do more harm than good. Plenty of information on that floating all over the net and here on the forums. With Froyo, they are definitely not needed, as it has improved memory management, which means it is better at figuring out what tasks to leave running and which ones to kill. Just let Android take care of tasks for you. If you do a factory reset and don't install a task killer, reboot every so often instead, you will see a great performance boost on any version of Android and better battery life. Task killers generally do nothing for battery life, as most tasks aren't using battery, only memory. The only time that tasks use battery most times is when they are actively accessing your location or using data. So just limit what apps can do those things in the background through their settings and you'll get great battery life without screwing up your system.
I guess I never really tested how my battery did without the task killer seeing how that was one of the first apps I got. I will agree that if i restarted my phone I saw a little performance/battery boost. Thanks for the tips, gonna remove the app.
Now I agree with superlinkx but DAMN if Sprint bloatware apps aren't up constantly on their own and running. Now i'm not talking about the basic stuff but Sprint Navigation (big one...try leaving Google Maps open and see what it does to your battery) plus a few of the others. I know it's cute to say Task Killers are irrelevant in Android...but I think that applies to Stock Android more so than a HTC Sense Android. I have a task killer setup to auto-kill safe all the sprint stuff when the screen is turned. I noticed a big jump in battery performance. Just my .02 though, every phone seems to be a bit different.
So ever since i did the OTA 2.2 it keeps running more apps in the background. I have my ATK set up "Crazy" and shut apps down when screen is off. But i cant keep it above 180ish. Is there something im missing??
Yeah, task managers don't work in Froyo! Lol! Little known fact. Basically, the Android team got tired of the abuse of task killers and made them defunct. They'll stop processes, but they just restart. You never needed one, and with Froyo, it has better memory management and other things that completely negate any benefit task killers might have brought. To stop a malfunctioning app, use the built in task manager. Settings>Applications>Manage Applications and go to the running apps tab. Select the app you want to manage and hit Force Stop.
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Wish it would just fully stop. Well Im gonna do it (root) when someine has it available for 2.2
I uses taj killers and noticed some slowing now that I have gotten rid of the task killer I have had better battery life and better speeds. Just let Android manage your apps and quit closing apps that don't need to be closed. Closing an app through a task killer will do some damage just like you should not force close an app on a computer unless it locks up on you.
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you can run a task preventer (I like "autostarts") to keep those apps from even starting in the first place.
Also if you want to have the system kill tasks more aggressively you can scale up the lowmemkiller. You can do this manually by echoing whatever values you want to the lowmemkiller file (more on that if you want to know) or there are apps that will do it for you. I don't know which on the market will do it, I run damagecontrol and DConfig has a lowmemkiller adjustment
I know after 2.2 Android completely handles task processing and task killers have no real affect, since the apps start right back up.
Does this differ with gingerbread? When I have task running in the background and my memory is only 144mb free, I hit the kill all on my task manager and I get 270mb. That 270mb slowly returns back to the 140's without me doing anything.
What is the best way to manage memory with gingerbread? Does Auto Killer Memory optimizer have any impact?
Ideas and Suggestions?
I have my phone and specs on my signature.
I recommend not using a task killer unless you absolutely have to. Android runs different than windows. And having full RAM is actually ok. It kills off process to make room for the new anyway. Android 2.3 is much better about handling processes than previous versions too.
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Don't use a task killer unless you have a misbehaving app. Android handles everything else just fine by itself.
There's no reason to use a task killer, especially with an Incredible since it has a lot of RAM. I used to use MinFreeManager with 2.3 on my OG Droid but that was because it had half the ram of the Inc and would kill off something as soon as it got pushed to the background. In Android (and linux/unix) free ram != good
Thanks for all the replies guys, much appreciated.
Ha sense 3.0 comes with a task manager
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so wait, i'm not supposed to use advanced task killer w/ CM7 + incredikernel??
i was led to believe thats the first thing i should install...
donkeykong0 said:
so wait, i'm not supposed to use advanced task killer w/ CM7 + incredikernel??
i was led to believe thats the first thing i should install...
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There's not really any reason too, with gingerbread and froyo, android will automatically end tasks to free up memory if its needed. And since you're running cm7, you don't have any bloatware (which is usually what people are trying to deal with with task killers).
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Hi All,
I switched my Desire to Desire Z recently. I think Desire Z is a really good phone but I have an issue what really makes me crazy. I want to use only two programs all day long in same time. The first is Opera mini, the second is Adobe acrobat reader. Usually I read pdf while I'm waiting for the web browser so I switch between these two tasks. But the task killer of 2.3.3 android is really intolerant on Desire Z (much more intolerant than the 2.2 on Desire). Sometimes it gives 30 mins to the background task to kill, sometimes one sec is enough to kill (on Desire with 2.2, the task killer gives 1-5 hours to the background tasks before it kills them. I used the same programs on Desire).
The reported free RAM is ~150 MB based on Settings/running services and ~75 MB free based on Zbox task manager (when Opera and PDF reader are still in the memory). I don't really understand the differences but the essence is that I have enough free RAM. Of course there are no unnecessary programs, services, widgets, auto task killers running. I just want to run two bloody programs in the same time. Is this a too big expectation? I'm accustomed to the multitasking operation systems since my Amiga 500 so this task killer system is a real pain in my ass now. I'm looking for an application what protects my main tasks from the task killer of the Androd OS but I haven't find yet. Do anyone has a solution for my problem? The protected task switch on task killers (for example Zbox's task killer) protects only from it's own task killer but not the task killer of the OS. Sense is a main thing why I bought HTC phones so "find a ROM what gives you more free RAM" is also not an option. (And I DO have free RAM .
Thanks for the help: Chris
Chris_mi said:
Hi All,
I switched my Desire to Desire Z recently. I think Desire Z is a really good phone but I have an issue what really makes me crazy. I want to use only two programs all day long in same time. The first is Opera mini, the second is Adobe acrobat reader. Usually I read pdf while I'm waiting for the web browser so I switch between these two tasks. But the task killer of 2.3.3 android is really intolerant on Desire Z (much more intolerant than the 2.2 on Desire). Sometimes it gives 30 mins to the background task to kill, sometimes one sec is enough to kill (on Desire with 2.2, the task killer gives 1-5 hours to the background tasks before it kills them. I used the same programs on Desire).
The reported free RAM is ~150 MB based on Settings/running services and ~75 MB free based on Zbox task manager (when Opera and PDF reader are still in the memory). I don't really understand the differences but the essence is that I have enough free RAM. Of course there are no unnecessary programs, services, widgets, auto task killers running. I just want to run two bloody programs in the same time. Is this a too big expectation? I'm accustomed to the multitasking operation systems since my Amiga 500 so this task killer system is a real pain in my ass now. I'm looking for an application what protects my main tasks from the task killer of the Androd OS but I haven't find yet. Do anyone has a solution for my problem? The protected task switch on task killers (for example Zbox's task killer) protects only from it's own task killer but not the task killer of the OS. Sense is a main thing why I bought HTC phones so "find a ROM what gives you more free RAM" is also not an option. (And I DO have free RAM .
Thanks for the help: Chris
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Autokiller Memory Manager is exactly what you need to use those two programs at the same time. Download it for free on the Market and read the FAQ and documentation about the advanced settings. This is single handidly the best app for getting your phone to behave the way you want in regards to memory management. Hope this helps!
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G1ForFun said:
Autokiller Memory Manager is exactly what you need to use those two programs at the same time. Download it for free on the Market and read the FAQ and documentation about the advanced settings. This is single handidly the best app for getting your phone to behave the way you want in regards to memory management. Hope this helps!
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Hi,
Thanks for the quick reply. You mean AutoKiller Memory Optimizer I guess (no AutoKiller Memory Manager in the market). That oom (out of memory) priority could help. Unfortunatelly my phone has Gingerbread and not rooted so this oom settings doesn't work. So the next step is to find an easy to use and safe Desire Z root stuff.
Thanks a lot again!
Chris
Hi. You shouldn't be using a task killer. Android manages applications better than you can or a task killer can.
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Right, you should not be using a task killer, but may I ask what rom you are running?
Try using v6 Supercharger
Cimer said:
Right, you should not be using a task killer, but may I ask what rom you are running?
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The way I'm reading this, he's not using a third-party task killer. He's complaining that Android memory management is killing the tasks he wants to keep running.
Hi,
Yes, you're right. I'm not using task killers, my problem is with the Android memory maneger. I'm using stock 2.3.3 ROM and would'nt like to switch to a cooked ROM.
Chris
burtcom said:
The way I'm reading this, he's not using a third-party task killer. He's complaining that Android memory management is killing the tasks he wants to keep running.
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android has its own task manager... and from what I've learned the built in task manager learns from the user... when did you buy the phone? how long do you have it? if its not long, here's an idea:
try charging the phone over night while checking the "keep screen on while charging", go to the acrobat, let it open and leave it as it is all night, and be sure NOT to turn off the screen...
the task manager notices how much time you spent opening this app, and eventually will put it as high priority...
also do this with the browser
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btw... justin bieber sucks
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Hi,
I bought this phone about two weeks ago. I'm a little bit sceptic about this solution but this idea is amazingly elegant so I have to try .
Thanks for the help: Chris
Riro Zizo said:
android has its own task manager... and from what I've learned the built in task manager learns from the user... when did you buy the phone? how long do you have it? if its not long, here's an idea:
try charging the phone over night while checking the "keep screen on while charging", go to the acrobat, let it open and leave it as it is all night, and be sure NOT to turn off the screen...
the task manager notices how much time you spent opening this app, and eventually will put it as high priority...
also do this with the browser
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sent from a phone... 'nuf said
btw... justin bieber sucks
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Have a look into enabling SWAP. Makes my stock ROM run really smooth.
You'll need a rooted phone, a custom kernel (I use Unity V9) and to repartition your SD card with Clockworkmod (Update to latest before use)
Unity Kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1121937
SWAP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1323447
Craig
I would like to have new Htc task manerger/File Manerger on my wildfire I have seen it on description of roms such as No Limits and NextSense Revoulotion
Thanks
Sayem Ahmed
Next sense and No limit Roms are still experimental... task managers in those roms may not work well in those roms itself since those roms itself are not functional mostly... Try searching for Task manager in Market.. hopefully you may find what you want...
advanced task killer from market is pretty standard. but CM7 already has minfree values set quite aggressivly which is basically an internal task killer that terminates apps not in use for a set period of time. so really you dont need a task killer for everyday use. only to kill persistent apps every now and again.