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Sensless or Stock Android

Hey guys I have been doing quite a bit of searching through the forums and still have a couple questions about custom roms and rooting. Forgive the noobness but the droid incredible is my first android device and I only recently got it.
1. My first question is what is the simplest way (rom + root I assume) to get a stock version of android on my incredible? Also what rom would you recommend (I have seen a pretty big list but know nothing about them)?
2. What is the difference, if any, between a kernel and a rom? Ive seen both words used a lot and have seen kernels that are stock and roms that are as well. Which would I use between the two?
I know these questions may be dumb but I have been searching for a couple days and have gone through hundreds of threads trying to find the definitive answer (there were some benefits though, I use launcher pro and the droid x's keyboard now) any help would be appreciated.

1. You are right in assuming that the quickest (and only) way to get a stock version of Android on your phone is to root your phone and install a custom recovery that will allow you to flash a rom. It is not really possible for me to recommend a rom because rom's are all about personal preference and my preference may be different from yours. That being said, if you are interested in stock Android, check out Cyanogenmod. The biggest thing right now is that for the Incredible, Cyanogenmod is the only true stock Android that is compiled from AOSP (Android Open Source Project) however it is still in its early stages for our device, so it's still buggy. The other roms are modified versions of our stock sense rom, so some of the roms are modified to have the bulkier parts of of the Sense UI removed, but it is still a Sense rom.
2. I'm not going to profess to be extremely in the know about kernels, but a kernel is the go-between for the hardware and the os/applications. If you want to learn more about kernels, you can read the wikipedia page about kernels found here. Basically what you need to know is that the rom is the operating system, so if you wanted to change the OS such as from Sense to Vanilla Android, you would flash a rom. If you wanted to change the way the system runs, such as if you want your processor to be overclocked or undervolted, you would flash a kernel.
Hope this helps.

That answered everything! Thanks for the reply and I will keep checking the forums for stock roms that seem stable!

Nexus One ROM?

Is it possible to run the Nexus One ROM on the Desire? I like to use the stock Android experience, and OpenDesire used to provide this but all of the tweaks from Cyanogen mod is changing that.

The simple answer is no. It has to be ported to use on the desire.

I like to think that the cm-mod changes are for the better, but you could eventually use an older version of opendesire, if you used to like it I prefer sense roms myself, but there is several different versions of the aosp compiled roms, have you tried all of them?

Thanks for the replies guys. Good to know.
I've only tried one or two AOSP ROM's - I'll keep trying Any suggestions?

Not really the only other option will probably be to start compiling your own rom for the desire trying to get the completely stock experience, but that requires some skills neither you nor i have i believe

MIUI ROM for my Desire

Hi Folks,
sneaking around all the Forums and Threads about HTC-Desire I came to the conclusion that I urgently need a new ROM on my smartphone. OK, to be honest, it is more-or-less because off this permanent message that my memory is running low.
So I started to gain knowledge about 'root', 'S-Off', 'HBoot', 'Recovery' and all that stuff. It took a while by I managed to 'root' my Desire without any issue.
Bye the way I learned a complete new language and had to jump between several threads to understand all these abbreviations.
Now I struggle with myself as I am not able to decide on which ROM to choose. My favorites are MIUI and Oxygen. But, what confuses me most are the different versions of each ROM. Yes, I read all the threads of most every single ROM but that made the decision not easier.
Is there someone around who can provide some experience with MIUI and/or Oxygen ROMs.
What I really looking for is a nice looking, state-of-the-art, stable and fast ROM as I am not of that kind to flash updates every day.
Did I ever mentioned that my grandchild is laughing at me, so please help me proof that even someone not familiar with all that new stuff will be able to flash a new ROM.
Cheers !!

My suggestion for MIUI is this one:
http://miuiandroid.com/community/threads/archived-miui-versions-desire-gb.16551/
It's stock version from MIUI England, without many modifications. You can also check out on MIUI Germany site.
In my signature you have something I made that's based on CM7 with just a few mods.

I'm using the MIUI ROM too, the response I get is way faster than the stock HTC rom. Although it's a shame that development stopped at GB (I really want the scrollable widget in ICS), but some of the guys here are working on ICS/JB ports, might jump onto one of those when they mature.

[Q] Sense 4.0

Are there any dinc roms that have Sense 4.0?
Or is there a way to find and add Sense 4.0 to my current rom?

AntiStache said:
Are there any dinc roms that have Sense 4.0?
Or is there a way to find and add Sense 4.0 to my current rom?
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There is one for the DInc. It's not very far along and got abandoned months ago. It's called Luxe. It doesn't have working WiFi. Data works I think and phone calls. Not sure how much more tho. I think sdcard kinda works and sound may or may not. The link is on the 3rd page of the development forums.
Adding Sense 4.0 to your current ROM will be next to impossible. It's better to port a Sense 4.0 from a different device to your device.

tiny4579 said:
There is one for the DInc. It's not very far along and got abandoned months ago. It's called Luxe. It doesn't have working WiFi. Data works I think and phone calls. Not sure how much more tho. I think sdcard kinda works and sound may or may not. The link is on the 3rd page of the development forums.
Adding Sense 4.0 to your current ROM will be next to impossible. It's better to port a Sense 4.0 from a different device to your device.
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How would I go about doing that?
I'm not familiar with coding and only use ROMs posted here.

AntiStache said:
How would I go about doing that?
I'm not familiar with coding and only use ROMs posted here.
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Take my advice. Don't try it. I should have said impossible. Once you add the sense 4.0 framework and replace the older framework, your device will not boot then there's a lot of replacing and edits going on. If you check that thread over for LUXE, I think that's the best place to start as it's a bootable Sense 4.0 ROM for the DInc.

tiny4579 said:
Take my advice. Don't try it. I should have said impossible. Once you add the sense 4.0 framework and replace the older framework, your device will not boot then there's a lot of replacing and edits going on. If you check that thread over for LUXE, I think that's the best place to start as it's a bootable Sense 4.0 ROM for the DInc.
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LUXE ROM link is down. Any way to get a copy? thanks

Which of the sense 8 roms is near to stock ?!

Hi, i was thinking to downloaded one of the sense 8 roms, since im a bit bored with stock rom, but i need your suggestions, cuz im not going to try all of them , so which one you guys think I should try ? :fingers-crossed:

What do you mean by "near to stock"? Sense 8 doesn't exist for this device, its ported from the HTC 10. So taking it literally, none of the Sense 8 ROMs for the M8 are anything close to stock. Aside from that, the ROM threads are mostly pretty clear on what mods (in addition to porting Sense 8) have been applied. As its not clear what you want or don't want; it may be best for you to just read the threads and decide for yourself what to flash.