First of all i'm sorry to post more questions about rooting but it seems like no one cares about some problems... i searched so many times on xda and even google advanced search
I have the r800 xperia play...I've been using it for couple of months so i have a lot of apps n stuff. I am running the newest 4.0.A update and i love it but i read i cant flash to 2.3.2,root it with gingerbread then update to 4.0.A cuz its not OTA
so i thought i could do it the unlocking bootloader way but i have a lot of questions so lets start...
-Is there a way to be rooted in 4.0.A,and if there is...do i need a rom or what?
-If I root my phone will i loose all my app data(this is the most important part,i dont want to loose all my perfect games in cut the rope and games like modern combat which have incredibly hard levels)
-When my phone is rooted...will i be able to update it to 2.3.4 and the Ice Cream Sandwich next year,or i would have to load custom roms
-I also noticed that when i uninstall a free app from my phone it disappears from the My Apps tab in The Market so what am i supposed to do if the root wipes all my apps? Write all 60+ of them on a peace of paper?
Contacts and stuff dont worry me
First off i dont have an unlocked bootloader but i will answer what i can.
1. Someone with an unlocked bootloader will have answer this one but im sure you can.
2. If you unlock your bootloader your phone will be wiped. The only way you would have kept root and all your apps is if your are on 2.3.3 (with a locked bootloader) and are waiting for the xloud update over ota (like i am) But since you have already updated to 4.0.A if you reflashed to 2.3.2 > rooted > ota to 2.3.3 (and wait like me) you will still loose all your apps (since you had to reflash). Best you can hope for is backing up your apps data with titanium backup pro or my backup pro. Then once you are rooted on an unlocked bootloader (or if you have reflashed 2.3.2 > rooted > ota to 2.3.3 with root) you can reinstall the app data.
3. If you unlock the bootloader you can still get updates but you cannot get them from OTA, PC Companion or SEUS (it will brick your phone) you will have to go the development section and a user who has got 2.3.4 (when its out) will post an update package you can use.
4. I have used App List Backup from the market. It saves all your market apps in a list so you can just redownload them and you still get updates e.t.c. Only works with market apps no 3rd party ones. Or even MyAppsList just to create a txt of app names.
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First off i dont have an unlocked bootloader but i will answer what i can.
1. Someone with an unlocked bootloader will have answer this one but im sure you can.
2. If you unlock your bootloader your phone will be wiped. The only way you would have kept root and all your apps is if your are on 2.3.3 (with a locked bootloader) and are waiting for the xloud update over ota (like i am) But since you have already updated to 4.0.A if you reflashed to 2.3.2 > rooted > ota to 2.3.3 (and wait like me) you will still loose all your apps (since you had to reflash). Best you can hope for is backing up your apps data with titanium backup pro or my backup pro. Then once you are rooted on an unlocked bootloader (or if you have reflashed 2.3.2 > rooted > ota to 2.3.3 with root) you can reinstall the app data.
3. If you unlock the bootloader you can still get updates but you cannot get them from OTA, PC Companion or SEUS (it will brick your phone) you will have to go the development section and a user who has got 2.3.4 (when its out) will post an update package you can use.
4. I have used App List Backup from the market. It saves all your market apps in a list so you can just redownload them and you still get updates e.t.c. Only works with market apps no 3rd party ones.
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Thats what I feared...but doesnt titanium backup require root? Maybe i misread it somewhere and its stuck in my head
LOL yeah sorry my bad. Indeed it does. I think mybackup pro works without root but im not sure if it is 100% reliable. Either way you are gonna have to either loose all your data or gamble saving your app data with my backup pro since rooting on anything after 2.3.2 (with a locked bootloader) does not work.
MyBackup requires root to backup app data I mean hasn't anyone figured out how to save their data...seems to me nobody cares about it
Anyways,provided that somehow i magically manage to save it i would still have to wait for OTA. Any ideas where i can check daily when the update will be available?
lol sigh... something is wrong with me today. I stoped reading as soon i a saw
MyBackup and MyBackup Pro will work on all Android mobile devices, regardless if they have root access or not.
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NOTE: Backup of Data/setting of applications can only be supported if you have a rooted phone, or if the application integrates with us.
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Sorry bout that bud. Probably got your hopes up for nothing I think the arc got their ota update a few weeks after it appeared on SEUS/Pc Companion but who knows its totally up to SE. I dont even think all the countries have got the ota yet for the arc.
You can root without unlocking the bootloader as far as I remember. I believe I used SuperOneClick for it.
What is this guy at post #7 talking about? http://forums.androidcentral.com/general-help-how/63387-backup-application-data.html
Nope
zerojay said:
You can root without unlocking the bootloader as far as I remember. I believe I used SuperOneClick for it.
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That was patched up in 2.3.2 so it doesnt work
Fokezy said:
What is this guy at post #7 talking about? http://forums.androidcentral.com/general-help-how/63387-backup-application-data.html
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I believe that basic Android - unthemed, untouched - does regular backups to Google. Basically, it will backup your app data and your list of apps. When you wipe a phone and log back in, it'll restore the apps and data automatically.
I noticed this myself when I was on my Samsung Galaxy S Captivate. The first time I installed Cyanogenmod 7 on it, it restored a ton of apps on my phone. The touchwiz framework for the Captivate doesn't allow it by default, I believe.
I have not seen this work on the Xperia Play.
Well...if it works on other phones it can work on any other phone running it...right?
I guess someone would have to extract the feature and somehow make an apk
I don't think it's quite that simple. It's most likely completely removed from the framework, so there's no readding an APK.
More info: http://code.google.com/android/backup/index.html
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I don't think it's quite that simple. It's most likely completely removed from the framework, so there's no readding an APK.
More info: http://code.google.com/android/backup/index.html
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I dont really know...but why would SE do that...i mean its just extra work limiting something?
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I dont really know...but why would SE do that...i mean its just extra work limiting something?
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What your talking about was a feature of froyo, google removed it with gingerbread.
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My hopes are being buried deeper and deeper... Ok how about this,that data must exist somewhere on the phones memory right? So if the apps themselves can access and change it,why can't another app or say a computer? Tell me why that won't work...
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My hopes are being buried deeper and deeper... Ok how about this,that data must exist somewhere on the phones memory right? So if the apps themselves can access and change it,why can't another app or say a computer? Tell me why that won't work...
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because the app has the permission to do it, an unrooted user, does not have access to /data/data
Ok this is the last thing i had in mind...SE had some sort of backup app for the arc and it was ported to other xperia phones but whenever i would try to download it from their official page it would show me random html all over the page and now i lost the link..
But when i think about it... SE couldn't do it without root so...it probably just saves something else. Anyway can i root it with unlocked bootloader without loosing data?
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Ok this is the last thing i had in mind...SE had some sort of backup app for the arc and it was ported to other xperia phones but whenever i would try to download it from their official page it would show me random html all over the page and now i lost the link..
But when i think about it... SE couldn't do it without root so...it probably just saves something else. Anyway can i root it with unlocked bootloader without loosing data?
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Your phone gets wiped when you unlock your bootloader but you can downgrade to a rootable version of android using flashtool without loosing data you can then make a backup, unlock bootloader, flash latest firmware, restore backup
Oh yea...That recovery thing?
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Your phone gets wiped when you unlock your bootloader but you can downgrade to a rootable version of android using flashtool without loosing data you can then make a backup, unlock bootloader, flash latest firmware, restore backup
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Well my original plan was to downgrade do 2.3.2,Gingerbreak and wait for 4.0.A to hit OTA but Mozza2k11 said it would wipe my data
Today I was checking and it showed me update was available
So i downloaded it over air , then it went through some steps and then rebooted and then gave me an error saying software won't update.
I donot have unlocked bootloader only a rooted phone.
I am current on 2.3.3 and have LT15i with rogers
Help ?
Did you remove any bloatware? That could caus problems with updates...
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The only real explanation to this would be that you removed some of the bloatware that you couldn't uninstall without rooting (e.g. through Titanium Backup).
mine can connect perfectly... Maybe you delete some bloatware that makes your arc too hard to connect to PC?
So I just bought a Play today and have been wondering if i should go ahead with an update to the latest version or if I should root and do something cool. I'm not really sure what to do and looking for suggestions.
Thanks,
Kris
Root it using gingerbreak first, then update it on the phone itself. That way you can have newer software, and still be rooted. Being rooted is definitely nice, if anything it gives you access to some pretty nifty apps on the market that require root to work.
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Root it using gingerbreak first, then update it on the phone itself. That way you can have newer software, and still be rooted. Being rooted is definitely nice, if anything it gives you access to some pretty nifty apps on the market that require root to work.
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Thanks although when I go to software update on the phone it says it cannt connect to the network. I'm connected to wifi and browsing and market work. I'm guessing if I used the SE software on the pc it would not allow me to root or would not save the root?
Or do i need to root first for the software update to work?
Thanks in advance,
Kris
What version are you using? R800a, r800i, or r800x.
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I wouldnt know >_< how do i find out?
NVM its R800i
EDIT: Just rooted the Play, now to try and get the on phone software update to work I guess.
EDIT2: Yea it still says searching for update and then cannont connect to the network.
EDIT3: Well i updated using the PC and it removed SuperUser so... i'm guessing no more root. I dont wanan run the gingerbreak again incase ti messes up and bricks or something.
If you want a do-over, go to this thread.
Hi guys im a complete noob to all of this mobile rooting so ive got alot of questions and as all the other threads i read make no sense to me i thought i would just create a new 1 so here goes.
I got a new xperia play r800i on tmobile it currently has android 2.3.2 and build version 3.0.A.2.184, i wanted to update to the new version to get the new features like xloud, themes etc but after 4 days of arguing between tmobile and sonyericsson tmobile have now said the update is not available so i have decided to just look at debranding or rooting the handset ( not sure what ones what or if there the same )
i have looked at so many different websites so many posts and a failed attempt at using the davinciteam option thanks to paypal not letting me pay, ive come to the conclusion i have no idea what todo or who to ask. can somebody give me a simple way of getting this fone debranded so i can update to the 4.0.A.2.368 to get the new features and remove the stuff tmobile put on there. i see something about gingerbreak but when i start reading about it i just get confused and frustrated.can somebody seriously help me here.
Go to wotanserver.com. Register for a new account (its free). Download the drivers and client software. Install drivers and open wontanserver software. Sign in and follow directions. Choose r800i 2.3.2 (3.0.a.??184 or something). Now download gingerbreak. 1.2( search forum or google) to your computer and unzip. Now connect phone to computer and drag gingerbreak to xperia play storage. On phone go to market and download and install "explorer". Open explorer and find sdcard/gingerbreak.apk and click on it. Now install and open. In gingerbreak press root and wait 5-10 mins until it reboots. Now go to settings/phone/system update. Only update Over-The-Air or else you'll lose root with pc companion/se updater. Enjoy your rooted r800i 2.3.3
P.S. Dont remove system apps unless you aren't going to update again 2.3.4. Use titanium to backup/ freeze apps you dont want to see in phone. Beware of what apps to do this to.
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With reflashing there is the obvious risks involved what would you say the success rate is and simplicity todo this the way you have explained to me and would this effect future official updates. Sorry to be a pain but you can understand my precautions I hope. Thanks again.
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Excellent such a simple process todo thanks for your help appreciate it.
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100% success rate. To do official updates. Unfreeze or restore system apps with titanium backup and update ota only. You'll keep root and have the latest firmware
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The 4.4.4 update has been out for months now, and it's still not rolled out to my phone. Is there any way to force the update - either triggering the OTA update or manually installing the file - without having to unlock the bootloader or root the phone?
You can download from xda ftf file with 4.4.4 for central europe or generic de and flash with flashtool. After that you will have newest rom and locked bootloader and no root. Everythink is here on forum + tutorials how to etc.
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The 4.4.4 update has been out for months now, and it's still not rolled out to my phone. Is there any way to force the update - either triggering the OTA update or manually installing the file - without having to unlock the bootloader or root the phone?
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1. Use Sony update service pro and it usually gets update a lot faster(I've used it one time when I was with Xperia S and really faster to get OTA). You will need an account to login but there are some free accounts available on net, just Google it.
2. OTA files should work but hardly to get one, so a no go.
3. Flash the 4.4.4 via flashtool. This can be done immediately.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-z1-compact/help/lb757-how-to-update-to-rooted-108-t2822957/post54297393#post54297393
Run my guide #5 only step3 to step12, no need to go through the whole guide. However, in step4 after installed Sony pc companion(probably you already installed it) remember to backup everything with Sony pc companion first.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
Since you don't have root and can't run Titanium backup. I would also recommend you to use Helium App instead to backup all apps and apps's data. Helium works much like Titanium without root. Remember to copy the backup data to your computer after backup the phone.