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Does anybody know if HTC have got in plans to update Sense to the same level as it is on Desire HD? Some of the functions are so handy. I would just love to have them on my handset.
yes, desire will be the only one that will get an update. maybe in time desire hd hits the market
Are you just speculating or is that confirmed?
ch1lko said:
yes, desire will be the only one that will get an update. maybe in time desire hd hits the market
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thats absolute rubish, htc never updates its ui, for older devices .......
AndroHero said:
thats absolute rubish, htc never updates its ui, for older devices .......
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In fact they do. Just remember the Diamond2 or the TouchPro2 which both got WinMob 6.5 and Sense 2.5... but im pretty sure (just a feeling) that they wont deliver the new Sense to the Desire....
elburna said:
In fact they do. Just remember the Diamond2 or the TouchPro2 which both got WinMob 6.5 and Sense 2.5... but im pretty sure (just a feeling) that they wont deliver the new Sense to the Desire....
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no they didnt, they go winmo 6.5 but only got sence 2.1, sence 2.5 is exclusive to the HD2
unless htc have said so themselves, i really doubt they would go through the time and effort to update one of their older devices.
don't get me wrong i'd love it if they did, but from experience, i really doubt it.
"Older devices"?? I got my desire 3 months ago, a top of the line phone, a flagship. A trully want to belive that they are going to update the desire, but i cant say for sure if they do. But i hope.....
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Anyone know when the Desire is considered an older device? I'm sure it'll continue to be manufactured and sold for a while now - not everyone wants a big phone or a keyboard. Am assuming a new Desire replacement won't be out until next spring.
actually your wrong here, i'm glad someone brought it up so i looked it up
HTC did upgrade both the diamond 2 and touchpro2 to sense 2.5
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=249&cat=2&dl_id=912
http://www.jayceooi.com/2010/03/20/download-rom-version-2-53-405-5-upgrade-for-htc-touch-diamond2/\
i wish htc did the same for my diamond 1, i wanted the topaz TouchFLO so badly but it never happened (officially and it was very hard for the community to port)
waw this makes me hopeful if we keep nagging about it we will get it, especially since they don't offer desire 2 yet (3.7 without keyboard) i want a stock new sense experience on my desire, i don't like heavily customized roms
GrenW said:
Anyone know when the Desire is considered an older device? I'm sure it'll continue to be manufactured and sold for a while now - not everyone wants a big phone or a keyboard. Am assuming a new Desire replacement won't be out until next spring.
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AndroHero said:
no they didnt, they go winmo 6.5 but only got sence 2.1, sence 2.5 is exclusive to the HD2
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Ups your right. My girlfriends diamond2 i had here recently, was equipped with a custom ROM. Nevermind...
Diamond 2 did receive the HD2 sense officially, look it up
hamdir said:
actually your wrong here, i'm glad someone brought it up so i looked it up
HTC did upgrade both the diamond 2 and touchpro2 to sense 2.5
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=249&cat=2&dl_id=912
http://www.jayceooi.com/2010/03/20/download-rom-version-2-53-405-5-upgrade-for-htc-touch-diamond2/\
i wish htc did the same for my diamond 1, i wanted the topaz TouchFLO so badly but it never happened (officially and it was very hard for the community to port)
waw this makes me hopeful if we keep nagging about it we will get it, especially since they don't offer desire 2 yet (3.7 without keyboard) i want a stock new sense experience on my desire, i don't like heavily customized roms
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right when the topaz came out it had touchflo 3d 2.1 after the update they got sence 2.1 ........ sence 2.5 is the one where you can put the big shortcuts on the homescreen, neither the diamond 2 or touch pro 2 has that officially
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its considered an older fone when a new fone with a better cpu comes out lol
AndroHero said:
right when the topaz came out it had touchflo 3d 2.1 after the update they got sence 2.1 ........ sence 2.5 is the one where you can put the big shortcuts on the homescreen, neither the diamond 2 or touch pro 2 has that officially
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did you even check the link....update 2.53 gives you sense 2.5
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did you even check the link....update 2.53 gives you sense 2.5
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i just did it now you are right smart arse
yes, from experience the desire is now considered as an old phone, and if you think otherwise then you haven't been with HTC for long enough to know better.
when i bought the HTC HD2 i was really happy with it, updates were coming from everywhere. then, the desire was released, end of updates for the HD2.
the desire has been out for about 6 months now, several newer devices have been released the desire itself has been updated into 2 new handsets, and many more are yet to come, how long will htc support the desire?
google the HTC glacier, planned to have dual-core processors/gingerbread etc and is due in about 3 months, htc have more things to deal with than the desire.
don't think for a second i don't like the desire, i've had it for 6 months and i love it, best phone i've ever used and will continue using it for the next year, but many people know that htc aren't too good support wise and it wouldn't surprise me if we see the support for our beloved device stop.
i was as skeptical and i was sure we won't get it, especially still burned from diamond days
but having learned today diamond 2 and touchpro 2 did actually receive the HD2 sense, i'm really surprised i think we should give it a chance
HD2 was outdated software wise maybe because windows mobile 6 reached the end of its life? and we still don't know maybe it will receive windows 7
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yes, from experience the desire is now considered as an old phone, and if you think otherwise then you haven't been with HTC for long enough to know better.
when i bought the HTC HD2 i was really happy with it, updates were coming from everywhere. then, the desire was released, end of updates for the HD2.
the desire has been out for about 6 months now, several newer devices have been released the desire itself has been updated into 2 new handsets, and many more are yet to come, how long will htc support the desire?
google the HTC glacier, planned to have dual-core processors/gingerbread etc and is due in about 3 months, htc have more things to deal with than the desire.
don't think for a second i don't like the desire, i've had it for 6 months and i love it, best phone i've ever used and will continue using it for the next year, but many people know that htc aren't too good support wise and it wouldn't surprise me if we see the support for our beloved device stop.
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the htc glacier is going to be t-mobile only tho isnt it? aparantly htc and t-mobile have been working on it under the name project sapphire
I was just thinking this. Officially the Legend is still running 2.1
Why should we believe HTC is gonna give us the new HTC Sense or Gingerbread? The Desire ain't even the flagship anymore.
I've never expected to get Gingerbread, the new Sense would be nice though
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I was just thinking this. Officially the Legend is still running 2.1
Why should we believe HTC is gonna give us the new HTC Sense or Gingerbread? The Desire ain't even the flagship anymore.
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No harm in keeping fingers crossed
They are not going to give us a gingerbread update?
sent mobile
Latest info from twitter, if anyone was interested.
... then it means generic update comes even earlier ! tweet
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I'm not going to get my hopes up...
First they said late April - early May... then they changed it to mid May...
Now that mid May is here they prolonged it to late May...
I wonder what they'll say at the end of May... early June maybe...
No one ever keeps their word...
3 UK said they received the HTC Desire stock Gingerbread ROM back in March, this means HTC has the WWE ROM ready but they didn't released it until now, and who knows when they will... if ever. Not to mention the fact that the Desire will not receive the Sense 2.0/2.1 update together with the Gingerbread update. I mean, was that so hard, they had the time, and I'm completely sure that the Desire hardware supports it. But they just don't want to, it's all a marketing plan.
All the members of the Desire family should've got the Sense 2.1 update, but NO.
Now Google comes up saying they will somehow try to convince the phone manufacturers to update their devices in a timely manner, yeah right...
well.. agree with you.
the reason underlying why HTC hv not released gb for desire yet may be thinking of giving an advance to Desire-S, imo..
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iLHaNroID said:
well.. agree with you.
the reason underlying why HTC hv not released gb for desire yet may be thinking of giving an advance to Desire-S, imo..
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Luckily the devs here are at least as good as HTC
who needs official gingerbread whe you have almost perfect cooked roms..
snakeeyes21 said:
who needs official gingerbread whe you have almost perfect cooked roms..
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I agree, alot purer roms with less rubbish from networks
snakeeyes21 said:
who needs official gingerbread whe you have almost perfect cooked roms..
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it's just easier when stock ROM has everything you need...
iLHaNroID said:
well.. agree with you.
the reason underlying why HTC hv not released gb for desire yet may be thinking of giving an advance to Desire-S, imo..
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or the bugs still present in the rom, eg compass being broken on gingerbread
Who actually cares about the compass in all honesty?? I don't think I've ever used it except in Google Maps - which works fine
Compass is broken on many different devices (but maybe not on all devices of the same type), anyway without compass navigating is pretty tedious
Not only compass, but also GPS drivers, 2 sec answer delay fix, maybe better graphics libs.
2 second delay is fixed in the Sense ROMs
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2 second delay is fixed in the Sense ROMs
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Good to hear -
I guess desire is on its way out as a "cutting edge" device. Still pretty sure we'll get most of the new features via custom ROMs (i'm running baadnewz's sense 2.1/3.0 rom and it has lots of the "new" sense already...), but there's no point waiting for your carrier to release updates for a phone thats been in the market for well over a year. I'm with telstra (australia) and i rooted and got froyo running a good two months before telstra released it.
Reply's I had from 3uk,
End of May with sense 2.1. Fingers crossed.
tinky1 said:
Reply's I had from 3uk,
End of May with sense 2.1. Fingers crossed.
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I think its a 'believe it when we see it' kind of thing though
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I think its a 'believe it when we see it' kind of thing though
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Same here, hence crossed fingers.
From 3uk blog
Moderator: Johanna on April 20, 2011
We’ve been told by HTC that the Desire HD and Desire will have Sense 2.1 and not 3.0, but the Sensation will have Sense 3.0.
maybe that's the reason it's late again - that they've decided to include sense 2.1 in it
To be honest, I can't see them putting sense 2.1 on desire, space is to precious, unless they implement some sort of a2sd+
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http://www.facebook.com/notes/htc-romania/gingerbread-pentru-htc-desire/223475751011104
They say that HTC Desire memory doesn't support Sense and 2.3. As usual, the smart guys around here proved that it does work
It doesn't have the memory for it, we know that. The Devs have proved it can run it but only using EXT partitions on the SD card which Google won't use as the average user won't know how to make one
Quote:
"Our teams of engineers have worked hard in recent months to update the Gingerbread HTC HTC Desire without compromising Sense experience that you have grown accustomed to our phones. However, we are sorry but we must assume that there is enough memory to allow portability and storage Gingerbread experience on HTC HTC Sense Desire. We are very sorry for the disappointment that this news will cause many of you."
So... They say it will stick on froyo or update with old sense?
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So its true ...
On a lighter note...
XDA Desire DEVS RULE, you know who you are snq-, NeoPhYte.x360, RCTeam, BaadNwz, CoolExe and anybody body else i cant think of now.
I would rather spend my money on you guys because you offer way better support.
Wow, that really sucks!
Here's the announcement in English
facebook.com/notes/htc-uk/desire-and-gingerbread-update/225607660802056
Sorry for the borked link, not enough posts yet. Perhaps I lurk too much?
http://facebook.com/notes/htc-uk/desire-and-gingerbread-update/225607660802056
link for you.
thanks murdi
So HTC say that the phone can't run Gingerbread and Sense - but the leaked one did...?
so why not leave the old sense on and update the phone - or better yet - update it to the latest version of Froyo and fix the bugs with the HTC mail etc. so that it can work with Hotmail EAS...
little things would be nicer than squat... even though I'm not going to use it
Well, this is my first and last htc device.
I totally don't care... Sense UI sucks, CyanogenMod, MIUI & AdamG are the best
this is bull**** guys!!
the wildifre S has the same amount of memory and runs gingerbread and sense 2.1 and even with the 3.0 lockscreen!!!! their just as lazy as ****
I am so f.... mad right now, was waiting for this f.... gingerbread and now he wont come... I wont buy HTC phone anymore just becouse this tease. And I am going to tell all my friends not to buy any of their products anymore.
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Well, this is my first and last htc device.
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That's a shame - I do like HTC's phones and the only thing that let this phone down was the low internal memory situation, and their excuse for this too.
I'd buy another but i'd be a little cautious about it next time.
My Blackstone/Touch HD is still working very well, and that hasn't had any updates for ages but it looks like a NAND image may be coming soon for it which will spring some life into it again...
So the Desire is far from dead as the dev's here can perform miracles sometimes...
still plan on keeping my phone for the remainder of this year at least with the hopes that the custom roms keep me going!
Wow, a lot of fickle people on this forum...
Guys, we were never guaranteed updates from HTC at any point. The fact we got FroYo was because it was the top line device at the time. You can't compare the Wildfire S to the Desire. The Desire is over a year old, the Wildfire is less than a month old - of course it'll get a new version.
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Wow, a lot of fickle people on this forum...
Guys, we were never guaranteed updates from HTC at any point. The fact we got FroYo was because it was the top line device at the time. You can't compare the Wildfire S to the Desire. The Desire is over a year old, the Wildfire is less than a month old - of course it'll get a new version.
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but then its bull**** if they say its the 'memory', just say ITS TOO OLD TO UPDATE! .
just be honest HTC!!!! dont come with lies!
I know no one guaranteed the update..and also don't care so much because the are the custom roms..
But anyway nothing good in htc for me..That just my opnion
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but then its bull**** if they say its the 'memory', just say ITS TOO OLD TO UPDATE! .
just be honest HTC!!!! dont come with lies!
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absolutely agreed! It's a shame...
I mentioned before that the Google I/O stated that manufacturers should put the latest version on phones if the hardware can cope - if that applies here then that is a great get-out-clause for not upgrading the desire..
although - we do know that HTC worked on it - see leaked rom.
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I mentioned before that the Google I/O stated that manufacturers should put the latest version on phones if the hardware can cope - if that applies here then that is a great get-out-clause for not upgrading the desire..
although - we do know that HTC worked on it - see leaked rom.
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their just to lazy man!!
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Well, this is my first and last htc device.
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... but don't forget; when desire came to the market (April 2010) it came with v2.1 eclair, then abt 4 months later, upgraded to 2.2 froyo whereas SE-X10 came with 1.6 (donut) almost at the same time with the desire and upgraded to eclair in November or December 2010, on the other side, Samsung Galaxy-S came with eclair in summer 2010, upgraded to froyo just two or three months ago (know that it will receive GB too soon).. shortly I cannot blame or judge HTC with that; when I decided to buy my Desire, it was the best choice to date (April 2010). Now the only way to root and step into the cooked rom world.
Cheers!
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Sense 3.6 is making its way out,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1456080
I wonder how long it will take to port it over for us?
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Sense 3.6 is making its way out,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1456080
I wonder how long it will take to port it over for us?
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1) that is ics
2) ive kinda given up on booting ics sense on this phone as its closest cousin the inc s has a port but its way too broken to use as a daily (if more improvements are made ill get back at it)
3) we will eventually get ics sense, id imagine through a RUU leak way once it hits vzw testing servers
Do we even have a kernal to port against? I've played around with the DIS Rom, but I haven't gotten anything to boot on it.
Hope vzw leaks that ruu soon or someone builds a kernel to support porting...
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1) that is ics
2) ive kinda given up on booting ics sense on this phone as its closest cousin the inc s has a port but its way too broken to use as a daily (if more improvements are made ill get back at it)
3) we will eventually get ics sense, id imagine through a RUU leak way once it hits vzw testing servers
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we will have 3.6 eventually. And from what i understand we have ports but no kernel for them.
I'm hoping we go straight to sense 4.0 instead of 3.6
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I just hope we get a ICS leak before the summer for our phone. I have a feeling it won't be till then though.
When did we get gingerbread? I remember some dinc2s were shipped with 2.3 and some with 2.2
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When did we get gingerbread? I remember some dinc2s were shipped with 2.3 and some with 2.2
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I got my Dinc2 the first week of July, and it updated OTA to 2.3 just shortly after I powered it up for the first time.
That's around when I got mine too I'm trying to.see when the phone was released and when we got GB
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Do we even have a kernal to port against? I've played around with the DIS Rom, but I haven't gotten anything to boot on it.
Hope vzw leaks that ruu soon or someone builds a kernel to support porting...
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i tried hacking up the cm9 ramdisk against changes that nik made to the inc s one to boot ics sense on that particular phone...but to no avail
frankly given the state of all ported ics sense roms on wvga phones, its not worth the time and effort really imo
the *only* ported one running on a .35 kernel that seems to be running well is the pyro series on the mt4g slide....but honestly its about as different a phone from ours as possible being htc (porting bullet was headache inducing)
unless one of our kernel guys really takes a run at making it work, i dont think ill personally put it any more effort just to get a semi functional rom going that can't be used on a regular basis
Sense 3.6 is really nothing special. They just made some slight improvements over 3.5 on ICS. Like fixing the browser text buttons at the top, simple things like that. Now Sense 4.0, that's where it's at. Played with it for a few minutes on my phone, and man is it nicer. Even just down to the skins, they theme way more of the system than ever before, even the keyboard finally. And the keyboard is a darker color now too, like the notification pulldown, plus the trace feature works 1000x better, and you can use it in any text field you want.
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Sense 3.6 is really nothing special. They just made some slight improvements over 3.5 on ICS. Like fixing the browser text buttons at the top, simple things like that. Now Sense 4.0, that's where it's at. Played with it for a few minutes on my phone, and man is it nicer. Even just down to the skins, they theme way more of the system than ever before, even the keyboard finally. And the keyboard is a darker color now too, like the notification pulldown, plus the trace feature works 1000x better, and you can use it in any text field you want.
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well for us its ics sense anything first, then worrying about porting whatever else
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well for us its ics sense anything first, then worrying about porting whatever else
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Haha, well I'm sure you guys will get it eventually somehow, I'm hoping that's what the ics update for this phone will bring, that'd be awesome. Maybe it could be ported over from the Ville at some point?
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Sense 4.0 Looks amazing! I'm excited to see a new rosie more similar to ASOP . I found some screenies here
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Haha, well I'm sure you guys will get it eventually somehow, I'm hoping that's what the ics update for this phone will bring, that'd be awesome. Maybe it could be ported over from the Ville at some point?
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hopefully sense 4.0 hits a wvga device or a wvga device is launched with 4.0...cuz honestly im happy to kang someones resizing m10 effort (with permission of course) but i know thats not appealing to me lol
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hopefully sense 4.0 hits a wvga device or a wvga device is launched with 4.0...cuz honestly im happy to kang someones resizing m10 effort (with permission of course) but i know thats not appealing to me lol
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Of course that's only if we don't get 4.0.
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Of course that's only if we don't get 4.0.
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we wont know til we know...but the fact that most current sensation builds are 3.6, and thats a top tier phone relative to us and its a month away (supposedly) from ota's starting...makes me think it would be a surprise if we 1-upped them
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we wont know til we know...but the fact that most current sensation builds are 3.6, and thats a top tier phone relative to us and its a month away (supposedly) from ota's starting...makes me think it would be a surprise if we 1-upped them
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Then again, our MSM7x30 line is still considered main-line supported hardware, and it would be easier for them to just base it all of them on same Android version, since ICS is such a big difference from Gingerbread, and it ALL has to be re-written from the ground up.
Just gotta hope.
I'm really excited either way. Especially because the official updated drivers will make running ICS a possibility for me again.
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Then again, our MSM7x30 line is still considered main-line supported hardware, and it would be easier for them to just base it all of them on same Android version, since ICS is such a big difference from Gingerbread, and it ALL has to be re-written from the ground up.
Just gotta hope.
I'm really excited either way. Especially because the official updated drivers will make running ICS a possibility for me again.
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yeah, we can make guess after guess with valid reasoning behind it, but until we actually see something...who knows?
id imagine dhd/desire s/inc s/inspire 4g and us will all see the same sense version since it ll be the first ics for each...after that? wouldnt shock me if those guys got 4.0 later on (assuming they launch 3.6) and we stayed at 4.0....:cough: sense 3 screwjob :cough:
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hopefully sense 4.0 hits a wvga device or a wvga device is launched with 4.0...cuz honestly im happy to kang someones resizing m10 effort (with permission of course) but i know thats not appealing to me lol
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I'd hope so too, but it seems as if the manufacturers aren't really interested in making wvga anymore, only qhd, and 720p now. Isn't the incredible s getting an official update first? I honestly don't think HTC is even going to have Sense 3.6 pushed to any device, it's just a little polish over 3.5, which is exactly the same as gingerbread Sense 3.5 and Sense 4.0 will be their main goal, because it's much more refined, and takes full advantage of what ics can do. In my opinion, It's the best version of sense to date.
I can post pictures of any particular part of 4.0 if you guys want me to
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