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HTC Eternity leaked: 4.7" Display, Front Facing Camera.

Competition for Nokia is starting, which is great for us
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/30/htc-eternity-leaked-1-5ghz-4-7-inch-display-front-facing-came/

Peew971 said:
Competition for Nokia is starting, which is great for us
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/30/htc-eternity-leaked-1-5ghz-4-7-inch-display-front-facing-came/
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Yeah, just stumbled accross it on twitter. Pretty much reminds me of my next handset.

4.7 and 1.5 Single core. Fake. Or 4.3 with overclocked 1ghz, real.

Happy with the CPU and front facing camera, not so happy with the screen size. That's huuuge

Have to ask, what so special about this? Big screen, which could be too big and no AMOLED, slight bump in processor speed, typical crappy htc camera and of course inadequate storage. Heck even Dell now has 32GB DVP's. Since FFC's will likely come on most Mango handsets what has this got over a Nokia with a proven record in phone cameras and better build quality? Plus this looks like just another htc android handset so design wise again is behind Nokia. Add in Samsung and their Super Amoled II screens and this is not that impressive to me.

cmon htc......a screen that big needs an amoled display not SLCD. a sumsung device similar to the infuse 4g running wp7 will easily top this. in my opinion.
my next wp7 device must have and amoled screen and i was hoping it will come from htc, might just go Samsung or nokia depending on what tmobile picks up

efjay said:
Have to ask, what so special about this? Big screen, which could be too big and no AMOLED, slight bump in processor speed, typical crappy htc camera and of course inadequate storage. Heck even Dell now has 32GB DVP's. Since FFC's will likely come on most Mango handsets what has this got over a Nokia with a proven record in phone cameras and better build quality? Plus this looks like just another htc android handset so design wise again is behind Nokia. Add in Samsung and their Super Amoled II screens and this is not that impressive to me.
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dude u read my mind.....plus freaking one!

efjay said:
slight bump in processor speed
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A slight bump? It's a 50% bump. A 1.5 GHz single will probably outperform a 1 GHz dual core in most smartphone applications for the time being. This is the best CPU we can possibly get from this round of devices, I'm glad to see someone using it.

efjay said:
Have to ask, what so special about this? Big screen, which could be too big and no AMOLED, slight bump in processor speed, typical crappy htc camera and of course inadequate storage. Heck even Dell now has 32GB DVP's. Since FFC's will likely come on most Mango handsets what has this got over a Nokia with a proven record in phone cameras and better build quality? Plus this looks like just another htc android handset so design wise again is behind Nokia. Add in Samsung and their Super Amoled II screens and this is not that impressive to me.
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I don't really care for this particular phone (4.7" is mad anyway) but I like the idea that OEMs are prepared to make better phones this time around. If anything this gets me excited for Samsung's next phones.
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Can't say I would want this size of phone, though it does sound nice. 4.3" is as big as I would care to go.

what a monster of phone
compared to the desire hd its again bigger:
http://versus.io/en/htc-eternity-vs-htc-desire-hd

MartyLK said:
Can't say I would want this size of phone, though it does sound nice. 4.3" is as big as I would care to go.
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Have you ever played with the Infuse? It feels somehow smaller than the Inspire yet the screen is massive and sooo beautiful.

ryude said:
Have you ever played with the Infuse? It feels somehow smaller than the Inspire yet the screen is massive and sooo beautiful.
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I've got a DVP (4" screen). The Infuse (4.5") makes my DVP look like Shaq to Vern Troyer. I can only imagine what a 4.7" screen would be like.
Anyway, that's overly large, for me anyway. I'll be looking at the next Samsung or more than likely Nokia, as Sammy is doin' wonky things with firmware.
But, I'll be keeping an eye out for the Acers and Fujitsus. All depends on what hits T-mobile. Either way, good to see that the OEMs are stepping up their hardware game, even if the designs aren't all that original.

Way to big, my max is 4"

Seriously, don't complain about 4.7". I have a 5" Dell Streak and it's perfectly pocketable and the browsing and gameplay experience is second to none.
Having said that, as much as Mango is a much more desirable release of WP7, I'd much prefer this device with Sense and Android Honeycomb.

It will be better if HTC trim outside screen area so they can have 4.7" screen with smaller size than the current design

That's a freaking huge phone. Curious: when you say the dell streak is pocketable, do you mean in normal jeans pockets ?

A few of my colleagues have dell streaks, and no they are not pocketable. They use a belt clip to hold it to their waist.

if the entire back panel was a battery, it would rock. too bad it won't be, and it will suck, like all phones' batteries do now.
someday they'll sacrifice being the thinnest for longevity. someday.

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A slight bump? It's a 50% bump. A 1.5 GHz single will probably outperform a 1 GHz dual core in most smartphone applications for the time being. This is the best CPU we can possibly get from this round of devices, I'm glad to see someone using it.
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Complete bull****.

Note vs Nexus

I thought this was an interesting comparison -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36gO7BuzUxs
People have moaned about the Nexus being under powered, but I think it holds it own!

AndyCr15 said:
I thought this was an interesting comparison -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36gO7BuzUxs
People have moaned about the Nexus being under powered, but I think it holds it own!
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Thanks for that!
It really was a nice comparison of the nexus and it's biggest competition! And even though the note is clocked at 1.4ghz, the nexus was performing fantastically well! I know they are running different versions of android, but you can't forget that the nexus is also powering a 720p display and from those tests, it looks like our "outdated GPU" outperformed the Mali-400 (easily classed as the best GPU out there!)
And also, I'm glad to know the nexus is has an equally loud speaker, some people just search for flaws that aren't there!

the speaker test doesn't seem right, between this phone and my others the nexus is very quite
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I wonder if a bad batch went out?
I haven't adjusted anything... you can hear, if anything the Nexus is slightly louder than the Note. I don't think it would be as loud as the SGSII though...

Am also wondering the same, my speaker is load enough without any mods.
Nice video BTW.

I have both and the Nexus is faster and the battery life better,too

KiNG OMaR said:
Thanks for that!
It really was a nice comparison of the nexus and it's biggest competition! And even though the note is clocked at 1.4ghz, the nexus was performing fantastically well! I know they are running different versions of android, but you can't forget that the nexus is also powering a 720p display and from those tests, it looks like our "outdated GPU" outperformed the Mali-400 (easily classed as the best GPU out there!)
And also, I'm glad to know the nexus is has an equally loud speaker, some people just search for flaws that aren't there!
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Doesn't the Note have an HD screen as well?
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Yeah, the Note has a 1280 x 800 screen compared to the 1280 x 720 screen on the Nexus. The PPI on the Nexus is a little higher though because the screen is smaller.
Man I have to buy either one and I can't decide. Stood in the store today and had both in my hand. I'm loving the larger screen on the Note, but the Nexus is a little bit more portable. So really at this point I want a definitive answer which one has the best specs. Is the Exynous better than the A9? Is the SXV better than the Mali? And which has the best battery life?
Haha I really wish that Samsung would speed up their ICS development, I realy can't wait to buy either one. I'm quite sure I'll be happy with either one though.

Thijsvr said:
Yeah, the Note has a 1280 x 800 screen compared to the 1280 x 720 screen on the Nexus. The PPI on the Nexus is a little higher though because the screen is smaller.
Man I have to buy either one and I can't decide. Stood in the store today and had both in my hand. I'm loving the larger screen on the Note, but the Nexus is a little bit more portable. So really at this point I want a definitive answer which one has the best specs. Is the Exynous better than the A9? Is the SXV better than the Mali? And which has the best battery life?
Haha I really wish that Samsung would speed up their ICS development, I realy can't wait to buy either one. I'm quite sure I'll be happy with either one though.
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Both the TI OMAP4460 and Exynos are A9 chips afaik. The OMAP4460 processor outranks the Exynos in terms of raw CPU power, have a read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1378551
SGX540 in the Galaxy Nexus is easily better than other GPUs out there, of course it ranks under the Mali400. BUT the Mali is overpowered and you will never that much GPU power now or in the near future. The SGX540 is NOT the same found in previous devices, it's clocked at a higher speed and runs even the most graphically intensive games beautifully (I'm thinking Shadow Gun).
The Note as a fat ass battery, a fat ass screen, and a fat overclocked processor. All will eat away at the battery like a mother p). But I feel pretty confident in saying that you will easily get a day with the Nexus. I get 18-24 hours DAILY on the Nexus and I am a HEAVY texter (girlfriend ).
Last but not least, IT'S A FRIKKEN NEXUS!! Best dev support and updates straight from Google, DUH

Thijsvr said:
Yeah, the Note has a 1280 x 800 screen compared to the 1280 x 720 screen on the Nexus. The PPI on the Nexus is a little higher though because the screen is smaller.
Man I have to buy either one and I can't decide. Stood in the store today and had both in my hand. I'm loving the larger screen on the Note, but the Nexus is a little bit more portable. So really at this point I want a definitive answer which one has the best specs. Is the Exynous better than the A9? Is the SXV better than the Mali? And which has the best battery life?
Haha I really wish that Samsung would speed up their ICS development, I realy can't wait to buy either one. I'm quite sure I'll be happy with either one though.
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Exynos is better, faster but a battery sucker! omap saves more battery but the huge Galaxy Note battery make its battery life looks the same as the nexus ... anyway both devices battery usage will be the same ( average use )
the gpu? i think Mali-400 is better than SGX540 ( used on Galaxy S )
bottom line if you want a pure google experience and the faster software upgrades buy the nexus, if you like bigger screen and samsung TW buy the Note

HTC One S better than GS2 but not worth upgrading.

So, I did lots of research and reading and all sorts of information gathering. I have reached the conclusion that the HTC One S is better than T-Mobile Galaxy S II, but not by a large margin. Now, this is just my opinion, but it is based off of lots of information digging and research. I will try to be as unbiased as possible, leaving usage out of the equation. I do not own the One S and will try to ignore any experience with the GSII.
Now, the core of both phones are very much the same both having Qualcomm Snapdragon processors, but the One S has the the edge in this one as it has the newer version, the Qualcomm Snapdragon (S4) Krait. The Krait can fetch, decode and execute more instructions in parallel than its predecessor (Scorpion, Snapdragon S1/S2/S3). I believe the S II holds the S3 (tell me if I'm wrong). This is not a minor difference and is a very evident difference. They both have 1 GB of RAM.
Now, the screens are preferred by different people because they are so different. The S II has a 480x800 Super AMOLED Plus screen at a size of 4.5in. measured diagonally. The One S has a 540x960 Super AMOLED screen at a size of 4.3in. measured diagonally. The issues on the Galaxy S II's screen are only the lines and blotches (aka the mura effect) as far as my research got me. Now, the One S doesn't have that problem (again, all based on research), but it does have problems such as unusual coloring around text,images, and icons. This is due to the phone using alternating red and blue/green and red pixels rather than the traditional Red, Green and Blue (RGB) pixel arrangement. Another issue with the screen is contrast shift. Look at the screen from anywhere off dead center and a distinct blue hue will descend, which is very noticeable. Finally, while the bright, vivid colors are nice to look at, the AMOLED screen tends to over saturate colors meaning the color temperatures are completely off a lot of the time, leading to inaccurate and off-looking images. These screens have major differences but both are preferred by different people. For example, I like the S II screen compared to the higher res screen of the Sensation, due to the color advantage, where as my brother is the opposite.
Both phones come with 16 GB internal storage. The S II user gets to utilize 11 GB of it and the One S user gets to utilize 10 GB with 2 GB for app. The big difference is that the S II has expandable external memory up to 32 GB whereas the One S has no external storage slot. This is a deal-breaker for many, but light to moderate users can live with it.
The cameras are the same except that the One S has a still shot feature while recording a video, but this requires a 4:3 aspect ratio while recording to utilize the 8 megapixels to take the still shot, rather than the preferred 16:9. (Many users are reporting that the One S camera although it has the same number of megapixels, takes better pictures and is a much better camera overall).
The S II boasts a 1850 mAh battery where the One S has a 1650 mAh battery. The One S has, on average, 20-24 hours of life on a single charge. BEWARE: THE BATTERY ON THE One S IS NOT REMOVABLE! While still annoyingly low, it is on a par with most smartphones these days. The Galaxy S II also has very similar battery life even though it has more mAh. This is due to the larger screen mostly.
Software is something that will not be discussed in detail because of bloatware and the fact that the software in Android phones is very malleable.
The One S ships with Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) and Sense 4.0. The Galaxy S II ships with Android 2.3.5(Gingerbread) which is upgradable to Android 2.3.6(Gingerbread) and is yet to receive an official Android 4.0 update. The Galaxy S II also comes with TouchWiz 4.0. The Android 4.0 on the One S works extremely well with its upgraded processor and is very smooth. The Galaxy S II's Gingerbread also runs very smooth on its own processor. Both phones can be rooted and different ROMs can be flashed on both.
This is it so far. I will be adding any new updates in the same format as devs do.

aranurea said:
The Galaxy S II also has very similar battery life even though it has more mAh. this is due to the larger screen mostly.
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Just going to say, it doesn't matter what the screen size is, it he amount of pixels it has. The reason for longer battery in HTC is because of the S4 can handle processes more efficiently and faster.

Also the HTC one has no removeable battery.but the one thing I can say is it is HTC and they do make a damn good device

S3 vs S4 is a HUGE change. You can't write it off as a minor point. The HTC One S is simply a better phone than the S2 at this point. But is it good enough to warrant an upgrade? Not really.
If the One X makes its way over, then I'd absolutely jump ship.
Just going to say, it doesn't matter what the screen size is, it he amount of pixels it has.
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This is so false. Like to the point where I don't even know where the begin.

it might not be worth upgrading it but it doesn't make the One S the loser. The Snapdragon S4 it is a big step up from the S3, also the HTC One S have better build materials not some cheap plastic chrome that scratches even with a case on. Personally I wouldn't upgrade the One S or even the GSIII those devices don't bring anything new to the table.

josemedina1983 said:
it might not be worth upgrading it but it doesn't make the One S the loser. The Snapdragon S4 it is a big step up from the S3, also the HTC One S have better build materials not some cheap plastic chrome that scratches even with a case on. Personally I wouldn't upgrade the One S or even the GSIII those devices don't bring anything new to the table.
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ive had my phone for about 5 -6 months not one scratch on the chrome part (i dont see any chipping) maybe u mean tiny ass meniscule scratches that u cant even see if so god ur so over observant. i NEVER use any stupid cases. idk what the hell ur talking about.

The One S battery life far exceeds that of the GS2 and I thought that phone had amazing battery life. I'm averaging 26 hours heavy use with 4G on all day.
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jonathan3579 said:
The One S battery life far exceeds that of the GS2 and I thought that phone had amazing battery life. I'm averaging 26 hours heavy use with 4G on all day.
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Qualcomm did an excellent job on their processor. Instead of hoping on the quadcore bandwagon like nividia and samsung.
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aranurea said:
So, I did lots of research and reading and all sorts of information gathering. I have reached the conclusion that the HTC One S is just as good as the T-Mobile Galaxy S II at best. Now, this is just my opinion, but it is based off of lots of information digging and research. I will try to be as unbiased as possible, leaving usage out of the equation.
Now, the core of both phones are very much the same both having Qualcomm Snapdragon processors, but the One S has the the edge in this one as it has the newer version, the Qualcomm Snapdragon (S4) Krait. The Krait can fetch, decode and execute more instructions in parallel than its predecessor (Scorpion, Snapdragon S1/S2/S3). I believe the S II holds the S3 (tell me if I'm wrong). This is not a major difference, but the difference certainly is there. They both have 1 GB of RAM.
Now, the screens are preferred by different people because they are so different. The S II has a 480x800 Super AMOLED Plus screen at a size of 4.5in. measured diagonally. The One S has a 540x960 Super AMOLED screen at a size of 4.3in. measured diagonally. The issues on the Galaxy S II's screen are only the lines and blotches (aka the mura effect) as far as my research got me. Now, the One S doesn't have that problem (again, all based on research), but it does have problems such as unusual coloring around text,images, and icons. This is due to the phone using alternating red and blue/green and red pixels rather than the traditional Red, Green and Blue (RGB) pixel arrangement. Another issue with the screen is contrast shift, as you can see in the comparison picture above. Look at the screen from anywhere off dead centre and a distinct blue hue will descend, which is very noticeable. Finally, while the bright, vivid colours are nice to look at, the AMOLED screen tends to over saturate colours meaning the colour temperatures are completely off a lot of the time, leading to inaccurate and off-looking images. These screens have major differences but both are preferred by different people. For example, I like the S II screen compared to the higher res screen of the Sensation, due to the color advantage, where as my brother is the opposite.
Both phones come with 16 GB internal storage. The S II user gets to utilize 11 GB of it and the One S user gets to utilize 10 GB with 2 GB for app. The big difference is that the S II has expandable external memory up to 32 GB whereas the One S has no external storage slot. This is a deal-breaker for many, but light to moderate users can live with it.
The cameras are the same except that the One S has a still shot feature while recording a video, but this requires a 4:3 aspect ratio while recording to utilize the 8 megapixels to take the still shot, rather than the preferred 16:9.
The S II boasts a 1850 mAh battery where the One S has a 1650 mAh battery. The One S has, on average, 20-24 hours of life on a single charge. While still annoyingly low, it is on a par with most smartphones these days. The Galaxy S II also has very similar battery life even though it has more mAh. this is due to the larger screen mostly.
This comparison is not finished and will be continued tomorrow.
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You obviously didn't do a very good job at your research if you think that the One S and the SII have the same camera. 8 MP cameras are not universally equivalent just because they have the same amount of megapixels.

jonathan3579 said:
The One S battery life far exceeds that of the GS2 and I thought that phone had amazing battery life. I'm averaging 26 hours heavy use with 4G on all day.
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really? FAR exceeds?? it'll be awesome if the battery life is better but far exceeds is something i would say when comparing the gs2's battery life to the amaze/sensation (1.5x-2x more)
but that's awesome.
OP, you should really have hands on before reviewing more. It is hard reviewing off "researches" when a lot of things comes out bias and all.

adslee said:
You obviously didn't do a very good job at your research if you think that the One S and the SII have the same camera. 8 MP cameras are not universally equivalent just because they have the same amount of megapixels.
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Their Zeiss camera on the HTC line is far superior to ours
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adslee said:
You obviously didn't do a very good job at your research if you think that the One S and the SII have the same camera. 8 MP cameras are not universally equivalent just because they have the same amount of megapixels.
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i would have to agree with this, I doubt the s2 is on par with HTC's camera, they excel in that department starting with the mt4gs, i doubt their camera has degraded since the amaze.

I went out and got the HTC phone (I have 3 upgrades on my account) and I have played with it for a few days and I have t say that a few things bug me about the phone.
The size of the screen can become annoying because I am acclimated to the SGS2 screen size and keyboard, you can increase the font size on the HTC but you will suffer in the keyboard auto word options.
The camera does take some good photos BUT...when you look at them on the actual phone after you snap a pic, it looks as though they are somewhat blurry, but after you email them to yourself and view them on a PC they are VERY clear and detailed.
HTC Sense 4.0 is good but it can also be a little annoying.
People complain about the phone only coming with 16 GB of memory BUT you also get 25gb of drop box memory for free and also Skycloud for an additional 7gb for free and if you have google drive you have an additional 5gb there as well.
Data Speeds are wayyyy down compared to the SGS2 I could not muster up data speeds faster than 6-7mb down and 1-2mbs up.
Overall this phone will take some time to become a favorite but I am hooked on the SGS2.
THIS JUST MY OPINION and ONLY MY experience......

Based on user comments and more research, I have reached a different conclusion and have changed the name of the thread. Thank you for sharing information with me.
This thread will be constantly updated anytime possible, because I won't have as much time due to upcoming AP Exams in the next week or two.

alphadog32 said:
Just going to say, it doesn't matter what the screen size is, it he amount of pixels it has. The reason for longer battery in HTC is because of the S4 can handle processes more efficiently and faster.
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I have to say that I don't agree. If the International GSII had the same battery as the Tmo GSII and you left both on a white screen, the Tmo would die before the International one. Obviouly I'm talking about a controlled experiment in which the only variable is the screen size and not processes running, processor and others. But things are never ideal for experiments.
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Also, any hands on experience that people want to share can be posted. None of my hands on experience will go into the OP as I don't own or have access to a One S. It is the reader's responsibility to read all posts during a phone comparison. Thank You all for taking the time to read and give feedback.

I've been messing with a few. I am not impressed. Htc could give us a qwerty keyboard phone that was up to date, but that's about it. I'm never going to buy another htc phone. I love my g2, though
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Teo032 said:
really? FAR exceeds?? it'll be awesome if the battery life is better but far exceeds is something i would say when comparing the gs2's battery life to the amaze/sensation (1.5x-2x more)
but that's awesome.
OP, you should really have hands on before reviewing more. It is hard reviewing off "researches" when a lot of things comes out bias and all.
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Far exceeds to me includes time on cell data and screen on time. I've never really made an entire day safely with 4G on. Don't get me wrong, the T989 beat the Galaxy Nexus but this phone has the best battery of them all. I easily get around 5-6 hours screen on time while staying on 4G all day doing my routine of texting, YouTube videos, and music streaming on Pandora. I can only imagine how it'd go with bigger battery.
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Honestly the larger the in reguard to more pixels the better. Higher res on larger screens are better than on smaller screen to keep up with the screen growth so.
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Teo032 said:
i would have to agree with this, I doubt the s2 is on par with HTC's camera, they excel in that department starting with the mt4gs, i doubt their camera has degraded since the amaze.
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reviews of the HTC one S, do tend to point out that the camera results aren't always superb, but the software is excellent.

I have the one s, and I had the sgs2 before I started using my amaze. The one s is a superior phone, users that love there galaxy s2 may hate or disagree but it just is. The battery is beyond the galaxy s2, it last longer stock then the galaxy s2 with custom roms or kernels. The screen looks much nicer without the blobs and the resolution is much better. The processor really shows its power considering the amaze has crappy battery life due to its resolution, sense and overall software on this phone all things which strain the processor. Now the one s runs sense, same resolution with a better screen, and a smaller battery yet the processor handles it like a champ and achieves bettery battery. The one s is thinner, has a camera that takes way better photos then the gs2 and feels better in hand because of its materials. This all makes it a better phone but it still has its flaws the gs2 has a better front camera, expandable memory, and will probably have more development. Point is the one s is a better phone but the gs2s development will keep it right up there with it until a better phone is released, I would personally choose the gs2 over the one s, which to get the best of both worlds I'm using the amaze as the camera is on par with the one s but at the sacrifice of battery life because it sucks . Those are my two cents from owning them both.
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Reviewed - So, the Galaxy S 3 IS better, but are you keeping your X?

Hi.
GSMArena have just published a 1v1 review of the Galaxy S 3 and HTC One X. I can't link to it unfortunately but go and have a read.
As expected, the Galaxy S 3 does just about win in every key area, however it's marginal most of the time.
Unfortunately marginal victories don't convince me as the S 3 just looks (and apparently feels) awful.
How about you?

Not a huge difference to the average user.
Thus, I will go for looks over performance when performance is of a negligible difference.
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joshnichols189 said:
Not a huge difference to the average user.
Thus, I will go for looks over performance when performance is of a negligible difference.
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Quite.
The amount of times I'll enjoy the feel and design of my device will dwarf the amount of times I'll care if the camera is a tiny bit better or if a web page loads 000.1 second faster.
Samsung would be on to a real winner if they actually got some good designers in though. Strange.

Here's the link
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_vs_htc_one_x-review-759.php
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Dtguilds said:
How about you?
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No way I'll get rid of my One X! Maybe I might (a very HUGE might) get the SGS3 because I think I have OCD lol. But not gonna replace my One X. The One X looks better I reckon. Just my 2 cents.

But is it better, really? It's a very personal opinion as both devices are super powerful and also very similar. However, I take IPS over amoled every day of the week, so for me the choice is easy, and on top of that the HOX just looks so much better. The two only upsides of s3 are sd-card and bigger battery. How much more battery time it has is to be seen.
Edit: If S3 had an A15 cpu instead, then the choice would've been harder. But I would've probably kept my hox till the next flagship was to be released, of any brand.

PenTile, PenTile, PenTile. I was waiting for the new Galaxy to be announced before making my decision on which handset to get. I love the amazing specs/performance on the GS3 and even though the handset itself is ugly and typical plasticky Samsung... I could have lived with that for the other perks, like bigger, removeable battery and expandable storage. Software doesn't matter since it wouldn't be staying stock for very long anyway. But a cheap PenTile matrix display is an absolute dealbreaker for me.
I know all the previews and hands-ons of the GS3 say it doesn't make any difference at that resolution... but it DOES. At least for me it does. Maybe these reviewers just don't notice it or aren't bothered by it, but experience tells me if I get a handset with a PenTile display, I will cringe every time I look at it. I hated it on my Desire, I hate it on my N9 (though thankfully I didn't buy that handset for everyday use) and I hate it on my colleague's Galaxy Nexus (which has a similar resolution to the GS3).
So, after seeing that... HOX it is for me.

revasser said:
PenTile, PenTile, PenTile. I was waiting for the new Galaxy to be announced before making my decision on which handset to get. I love the amazing specs/performance on the GS3 and even though the handset itself is ugly and typical plasticky Samsung... I could have lived with that for the other perks, like bigger, removeable battery and expandable storage. Software doesn't matter since it wouldn't be staying stock for very long anyway. But a cheap PenTile matrix display is an absolute dealbreaker for me.
I know all the previews and hands-ons of the GS3 say it doesn't make any difference at that resolution... but it DOES. At least for me it does. Maybe these reviewers just don't notice it or aren't bothered by it, but experience tells me if I get a handset with a PenTile display, I will cringe every time I look at it. I hated it on my Desire, I hate it on my N9 (though thankfully I didn't buy that handset for everyday use) and I hate it on my colleague's Galaxy Nexus (which has a similar resolution to the GS3).
So, after seeing that... HOX it is for me.
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The pentile they're using isn't bad at all.

I knew the SIII would have an overall edge over the One X seeing as it was coming to market after it, thinking otherwise would have just been plain stupid but I've never really liked the Samsung UI style and I'm not too keen on the look of the phone.
I don't think there's enough of a difference between the two phones to make me switch, plus the One X in my opinion looks way nicer and I'm fickle when it comes to looks
I'm definitely disappointed in the photo and video quality though. Samsung videos definitely look better.
Also, all the talk about the Pentile screen and excuses such as "making a Super AMOLED Plus HD screen just isnt possible" but then this phone comes along with a better screen than the "Flagship" SIII. Looks like maybe Samsung want to ditch Android for their own OS? Its a developer phone but it still has a better screen than the SIII!!!
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9500_fraser-4752.php

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The pentile they're using isn't bad at all.
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Everyone said that about about the GNex as well and I was THIS close to buying one when it was released, but positive reports from third parties don't match what my eyes see when I look at my colleague's Nexus.
I'm not saying it's going to be a big deal for everyone. I imagine whether or not it's a problem comes down to the individual looking at the screen. But having seen a GNex in person (with a similar display) and used PenTile in the past... no dice

Here's the real competition:
http://briefmobile.com/lg-ls970-eclipse-coming-with-1-5-ghz-quad-core-krait-cpu
Say what you will about LG, this thing looks deadly.
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The pentile really isn't that bad, yea some edges look a bit more jagged, but you have to put the thing right up in your face. At such high resolutions on both phones, half an arms length away from your face and they will look nearly the same.
The biggest thing for me is the removable battery and the battery performance.
Damn, it even won in 3G talk time.......wtf? I thought the companion core was used for the talk time which is why it got such high scores. But the GS3 still managed to beat it out.
I put everything down to bad optimization on HTC and Nvidia's part. How the hell are you going to lose in web browser to SAMOLED? SAMOLED eats battery like no other on all white colors, and the video playback is horrendous. Companion core should be used for video playback and that Nvidia prism technology crap which is supposed to increase battery life by like idk whatever they said 100%? I don't remember.
Either way, it's a case of HTC Sense and software being un-optimized and not mature vs Samsung software being what it does best. It works and does it efficiently producing good results.
I'm still keeping my One X though, design and build it wins hands down IMO. GS3 isn't a big upgrade either over HOX. Software just sucks and needs to be better, too immature when ICS has been out for like half a year already.
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Here's the real competition:
http://briefmobile.com/lg-ls970-eclipse-coming-with-1-5-ghz-quad-core-krait-cpu
Say what you will about LG, this thing looks deadly.
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I don't think HTC and Samsung might've done enough.
Granted, that LG phone is going to come pretty late.....Quad-core Krait are pretty far off from the roadmap and the upcoming Sony flagship with Krait Pro (should come earlier) will give Tegra 3 and Exynos 4 a run for their money. Design and camera should be very nice also.
Sony really looks to be getting on track now, especially considering how far they've fallen in every sector besides Playstation.

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So, the Galaxy S 3 IS better
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Hmm, not really. The closing of the article summed it up best...
"Anyway, back to where we started. Two superphones, one Android crown. The HTC One X managed to come to the market first, while the Galaxy S III is a little late, but has plenty to show for it. We're tempted to play it safe and split it equal. The HTC One X: this is what a droid flagship should look like. The Samsung Galaxy S III: that's what a droid flagship should perform like. But that won't be fair to either of them. They didn't get where they are by playing it safe.
It seems obvious that the Samsung Galaxy S III wouldn't have raised as the new standard-setter without a powerful challenger like the One X. There's no consolation prize here, no second-best. A fair fight and a win-win for Android."
Some other things that struck me as relevant...
"The HTC One X is encased in a polycarbonate unibody (Gray or Black), which is matte in appearance and pleasant to the touch. The Samsung Galaxy S III is covered in glossy plastic (with Blue brushed metal look or pure white), which is durable, but not quite as nice to hold. We're not impressed by its looks either.
"On the other hand, Samsung's design allows you to change the battery allowig you to use a spare one to extend battery life or replace an old burnt-out battery with a fresh new one. Oh, and there's a microSD card slot too. Not that HTC couldn't have put a card slot into the One X, they just decided that 32GB should be enough for everyone (and it probably is)."
"Of course, not all of them are deciders. The S-Voice is a direct take on Siri, but it really fails to live up to expectations, while the NFC-based media sharing over S Beam has limited application for now. Pop-up play will rarely be used while Buddy photo share borders on useless."
So what does it come down to? Personal preference.
1) Is a removable battery and SD card slot important? Buy the SGS3.
2) Is design, construction, and feel in the hand important? Buy the One X.
3) Is low light picture and video important? Buy the One X.
4) Are more detailed pictures in bright light important? Buy the SGS3.
5) Do you like the vivid (I'm being kind) colors of AMOLED? Buy the SGS3.
6) Do you like a brighter, non-PenTile display, with more accurate color and better detailing? Buy the One X.
7) Want a better browsing experience and more audio and video codec support? Buy the SGS3.
8) Are you an avid gamer that'll be pushing the CPU and GPU regularly? Buy the SGS3.
9) Do you like TouchWiz? Buy the SGS3.
10) Do you like Sense? Buy the One X.
11) Do you listen to lossless audio over $300+ headphones or a home system that cost several thousand dollars? Pick the SGS3.
There's other differences that may matter to people but those are the main ones. I knew the SGS3 would benchmark better than the One X when I bought it. The reality is, as it stands today, the power of Teg3, S4, and Exynos-Quad are wasted because the OS and apps aren't able to tap their power. Other than bragging rights you'd be hard pressed to tell them apart performance wise; they'll "feel" the same.
My views on the main features...
1) I like the LCD2 display on the One X. After using AMOLED for a year the realistic colors, the lighter look because black backgrounds aren't used to save battery, and increased display brightness are all nice for a change.
2) The One X camera h/w is better than the SGS3's. It shows in low light settings. I'm hoping s/w tuning in future updates makes it a better all-around performer. I wouldn't ditch the One X over the camera as they don't strike me as that dramatically different from each other.
3) Audiophiles probably never considered the One X once it was announced that the SGS3 has a Wolfson DAC. An audiophile would cut off their arm before listening to compressed formats like MP3's or on anything less than high grade equipment. That makes 95% of us “non-audiophiles.” And a real audiophile would question the use of something like a smartphone as an audio output device anyway.
4) Did anyone who bought the One X not know in advance it had fixed storage and a non-replaceable battery? I'd like those features; I think anyone would. But I really like the design of the One X and if it had to look like the SGS3 in order to have them I'd pass.
5) Other than the graphics issues which are big, the One X's launch has been pretty typical from a QC perspective. I'll bet anyone here the SGS3 launch looks the same (sans graphics issues) and that display consistency will be one of the biggest *****es on their forum. The SGS2 and GN launches were far from great.
So, the short answer to OP's question, nothing in that review has changed my opinion of the One X. Look at it this way, the SGS2 crushed the Sensation. In less than a year HTC launched a phone that made GSMArena consider splitting the win. That alone is pretty impressive. Of course, YMMV and I clearly don’t expect everyone to agree with some of my comments.

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I personally agree with everything you said SD cards aren't a problem for me though, 16gb currently and only half filled - that's with a few shows/music and stuff my only worry about the One X is the price of replacing the battery - my brother might want it after my contract finish and the battery will have degraded a bit by then.

thegregulator said:
Here's the real competition:
http://briefmobile.com/lg-ls970-eclipse-coming-with-1-5-ghz-quad-core-krait-cpu
Say what you will about LG, this thing looks deadly.
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The O2X/G2X were probably the worst phones every to be released by a manufacturer. The G2X is the subject of a class action lawsuit in the U.S. because of its putrid performance and sales were halted for three months while LG tried to figure out its problems. After owning one I'll never buy an LG product again. Not even a toaster. "Deadly" is a great choice of words; that's how previous O2X/G2X owners would describe their experiences.

Why is anyone surprised? Samsung is known for having better specs, better optimized software. HTC one x got the looks, SGS3 got the power.

I have let go galaxy note for one x, there is no way I want to go back to samsung
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barondebxl said:
Why is anyone surprised? Samsung is known for having better specs, better optimized software. HTC one x got the looks, SGS3 got the power.
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If they were women (or men), which one would you want to date? The pretty voluptuous one or the one with child bearing hips?

My OneX will be on eBay once the S3 is available. Main negatives of the OneX for me - no S-Off, poor battery life, cannot remove battery, no ext SD. I use Android phones mainly to try custom ROMs.

Gosh! Yet another boring, unproductive topic by thread stsrter of just 4 posts...!
It's all depends on one's preference and priority for god's sake!

Droid DNA... wow.

Have you guys seen this thing? I don't like my Note 2 anymore
what are the chances it comes to Sprint? I'm jumping ship when it does!

what are you seeing that makes it better than the note ?

Only 16gb and no Micro sd = useless
plz the galaxy note is the queen

yea, lets completely ignore the 1080p display?

slightly slower processor, smaller screen, smaller battery as well. only real difference is the screen ppi as wellvas what was mentioned above.

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what are you seeing that makes it better than the note ?
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Lol This^
mrej201 said:
Only 16gb and no Micro sd = useless
plz the galaxy note is the queen
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And This^
We all know the battery life will never compare and as someone on AC mentioned, "I dont see how people on a 2gb shared data plan can use this phone without upping their data plan. Which is exactly why Verizon ordered the phone without an microSD slot."
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That's a nice screen, but the following are deal-killers: 16gb and no micro sd; non-removable battery; small 2,020mAh battery

Nice screen but I have to use reading glasses to see a pixel on my note. At some point ppi is just a bigger number.

I think I will pass on this. I don't want to get a phone whose company are not friendly to developers. Rom development will suck on this phone.
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The 2200mah battery is a killer here. With a large display and everything, its going to the OG EVO all over again.

I come from using HTC for over 6 years and switched to Samsung for the NOTE 2... Guess what? im not coming back... I FREACKING LOVE this thing, every HTC I had would`nt make it over 10 hours without charging and they are not friendly to developers, they are just not worth it anymore specially with the specs for the new galaxy S4 (3 gb of ram :victory... Samsung is waaaay ahead of HTC....

Lmao.. #Never I bet the battery life sucks because HTC phones battery life always sucks..Plus why would you want to leave a phone that has 16gb of external memory and you can add a Sd to boast it up more to go to a phone that only have 16gb? That make no sense plus the GNII looks easy better in my opinion.
Swyped by Me & My GNII

I was aware of that phone before I picked up my note. I came from an OG Evo which served me well for close to 2.5 years so I was looking for an excuse to make a move back to HTC. The reports of the 4g LTE Evo bending is what kept me away from it. The only thing I like the DNA is its 5" screen as I find the note 2 to be a bit excessive.

This phone (Droid DNA) has nothing on the Note II except a greater screen resolution. Might as well get an iPhone if ppi is all you want.
I can't see a damn pixel from another on my Note II, so adding pixels and removing battery size does nothing (for me) except make it less enduring.
No, S Pen? No thanks.
This phone doesn't have anything going for it that will matter in a couple months. All those horsepower specs will get out horsed by the next phone. I'll stick with the Note II and all of it's differentiating qualities.
(btw, I HATE the term 'Droid'. It's a term used by iPhoners to describe Android phones since all they know about them comes from Verizon commercials)
thanks for putting up with this rant... here's some boobs to make up for it:
( . Y . )

Dioscorus said:
yea, lets completely ignore the 1080p display?
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lol
1080p display on a 2020mah battery
You know how everyone is ranting and raving about the Note 2 battery life? Well imagine the exact opposite on the "DNA" which isn't even as good as the Japanese version, the HTC J Butterfly which is moderately waterproof among other features.

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The 2200mah battery is a killer here. With a large display and everything, its going to the OG EVO all over again.
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What is that comment supposed to mean, You do know the OG Evo4G was the leading smartphone back when it was released for quite sometime not to mention very successful. If you are comparing it to today's standards then obviously it will fall to the back burner it was over 2years ago. But considering it was pushing a 1Ghz Processor with 512mb of RAM, and 8mp camera with auto focus and digital zoom, 1.3mp front facer that was capable of video chat no problem when some devices that are only 8-12months old can barely do it or cannot do it well. 4.3in display, HDMI out , 4G connectivity, 1500mah battery sd card slot supporting up to 32Gb. For coming out 2.5years ago that's a Heavy weight Belt holder.
And I love my Galaxy Note 2, But this Droid DNA is by no means a Slouch or a weak phone. I would definately take this if it was available for my carrier and the Gn2 wasn't around. And for saying that HTC doesn't know how to build a phone etc, look at the Evo4G LTE vs Gs3 shootouts the Evo with similar specs and less RAM beats it which can only mean that the Touchwiz UI wasn't as well implemented with the android on that platform vs the Sense + Android setup.
With the 1.5Ghz S4 Pro + 2Gb of RAM It will be a contender with pulling and performing. Add in the 1080p resolution and another cool feature that I would like to see in Future devices is what HTC did with the Front Facing Camera. They threw in a f2.0 aperture with an 88degree shooting angle to not only get a wide angle shot in the front but it also is capable of 1080p video. Which correct me if I am wrong but I believe that is a first in having a front facing camera on a phone capable of capturing 1080p video. Now it's possible the 8x may be capable of this as that's where they borrowed the wide angle lens for the front from.

tw1sted247 said:
what is that comment supposed to mean, you do know the og evo4g was the leading smartphone back when it was released for quite sometime not to mention very successful. If you are comparing it to today's standards then obviously it will fall to the back burner it was over 2years ago. But considering it was pushing a 1ghz processor with 512mb of ram, and 8mp camera with auto focus and digital zoom, 1.3mp front facer that was capable of video chat no problem when some devices that are only 8-12months old can barely do it or cannot do it well. 4.3in display, hdmi out , 4g connectivity, 1500mah battery sd card slot supporting up to 32gb. For coming out 2.5years ago that's a heavy weight belt holder.
And i love my galaxy note 2, but this droid dna is by no means a slouch or a weak phone. I would definately take this if it was available for my carrier and the gn2 wasn't around. And for saying that htc doesn't know how to build a phone etc, look at the evo4g lte vs gs3 shootouts the evo with similar specs and less ram beats it which can only mean that the touchwiz ui wasn't as well implemented with the android on that platform vs the sense + android setup.
With the 1.5ghz s4 pro + 2gb of ram it will be a contender with pulling and performing. Add in the 1080p resolution and another cool feature that i would like to see in future devices is what htc did with the front facing camera. They threw in a f2.0 aperture with an 88degree shooting angle to not only get a wide angle shot in the front but it also is capable of 1080p video. Which correct me if i am wrong but i believe that is a first in having a front facing camera on a phone capable of capturing 1080p video. Now it's possible the 8x may be capable of this as that's where they borrowed the wide angle lens for the front from.
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og evo <> evo 4g

Gay DNA
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It is a cool phone, but as mentioned, no removable SD, small battery, nothing similar to the s-pen, no type of "multiview". Its nice it has a 1080p screen and all, but that one benefit doesn't make up for it's shortcomings.
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Tiny, not removeable battery and only 16GB w/no micro SD card = no buy, no matter what.