Whats up guys. Like the title says, I'm curious how ya'll feel about restoring ICS backups. Now I'm NOT asking about restoring from GB to ICS or vise versa.
Here's where I'm at. I'm running MIJJah's ICS 1.8.1 with FC07 modem and Rouges FC 07 kernal and I've got this thing set up just the way I want it. Because I'm a flashaholic tho I want to try out Venums ICS. So If I were to make a backup and then flash Venums ICS and want to restore back to MIJJah's ICS would I be good. Oh I should say that before I flash Venums ICS I'm going to Odin back to stock, Odin CWM, yada,yada,yada, then flash Venums rom. I'm ALWAYS going to Odin back to stock before I flash any ICS rom until things get more ironed out.
I guess in general I'm asking is it alright to restore backups going from ICS to ICS. I don't recall reading anywhere about issues restoring ICS backups with Rouges recovery but in case I missed it I figured I'd ask here.
Thanks in advance for any feedback!
I think it'll be fine as long as you Odin back to stock like you said. I never ran into any problems when I switched from Blazer back to Blend
Never have I gone to stock to restore ICS. BUT to get back to GB, I do use el29 one click to get on gb. But for ics to ics your fine, no issues. You know what I do and I'm always jumping all over. The one place where the issues are is going from ics to gb builds. You don't wanna flash or restore to them, Odin to them. I know you had issues before, but your thinking correctly.
Also you don't need to go to stock before flashing venums ics, I have just wiped really well and flashed stock several times.
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Never have I gone to stock to restore ICS. BUT to get back to GB, I do use el29 one click to get on gb. But for ics to ics your fine, no issues. You know what I do and I'm always jumping all over. The one place where the issues are is going from ics to gb builds. You wanna flash or restore to them, Odin to them. I know you had issues before, but your thinking correctly.
Also you don't need to go to stock before flashing venums ics, I have just wiped really well and flashed stock several times.
Team-Nocturnal Blended ICS
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Thanks BTR. The reason I would Odin back to stock before flashing ICS is because Steady has a big old red lettered sentence in his FC07 thread stating to never flash a rom with his recovery. Anyway if you say you've had success with it I would feel a little better about doing it.
You answered my main concern though which was restoring an ICS backup from ICS.
Appreciate bro!
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Thanks BTR. The reason I would Odin back to stock before flashing ICS is because Steady has a big old red lettered sentence in his FC07 thread stating to never flash a rom with his recovery. Anyway if you say you've had success with it I would feel a little better about doing it.
You answered my main concern though which was restoring an ICS backup from ICS.
Appreciate bro!
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Any time! I personally Odin or flash his FB21 kernel for recovery to flash and what not. But only when I need it, otherwise its stock for me.
Team-Nocturnal Blended ICS
Sorry to post this here can u hard reset a nandroid restore?
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So last night I finally decided to try out an ICS ROM floating around the Dev section and turns out I prefer the ICS themed GB. ICS was TOO ICS'D FOR ME..(wtf?)
Anyways, I restored a nandroid of my GB ROM but my question is do I need to flash any modems/kernals? When I installed the ICS ROM, I also installed the F07 Modem. Does restoring a nandroid take care of any modems for me or do I need to do something else?
the modem is flashed separately. if you nandroid back, it should restore the kernal you were using when you made the backup. Modems are not backed up in a nandroid.
Oh cool. Thanks. Any idea if the FC07 Modem will give me any problems on an EL29 Rom? My phone feels warmer (over wifi) than usual but I'm not sure if thats due to the nandroid I ran or the modem.
as far as I can tell modems are independent of what rom you use, so flash them all and decide which works best for you. I'm currently running the FC24 modem on Calk's 3.0 rom which is EL29 based without any problems. Phones feeling warmer doesn't really mean much to me. It's all perception in my mind. As long as it's not burning a hole through my case, I'm ok with it. Usually a reboot will get rid of the warming. Could be alot of background syncing trying to play catch up with your data on the phone.
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Oh cool. Thanks. Any idea if the FC07 Modem will give me any problems on an EL29 Rom? My phone feels warmer (over wifi) than usual but I'm not sure if thats due to the nandroid I ran or the modem.
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Modems can be interchangeable, flash them all till you find one you like. Its just a radio and not married to any specific rom base
Hi all,
I just got a replacement E4GT from Sprint, I had planned on staying stock but after the hardware issues of my first iteration of this device and the somewhat lackluster update, I decided to take control and root/flash.
I used to do this on the EVO but it's been a while.
so I followed QBKing77's videos to the best of my ability. I have Rogue Recovery installed (pretty sure it's the latest, I downloaded from the official thread and ran the exe to install less than an hour ago). It's doing NAND backup and recovery just fine, so I assume Rogue is working but I can't install AOKP or MIUI.
From the video, it seems like I use the zipped file on the phone's memory, do I need to unzip first?
Can I flash directly from a EL29 Rogue to an AOSP ICS ROM?
Use Chris 41g's EL26 CWM kernel for initial AOSP flashes. Though if your stock now are you not on FF18 ICS yet?
El26 rogue for flashing.
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rovar said:
El26 rogue for flashing.
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No, No rogue for AOSP. Custom CWM bricks. Rogue was the popular one at the time, pretty sure there was another one that was not working as well.
EL26 with bone stock CWM.
RainMotorsports: I am on EL29, I've had the replacement for 3 days and it has not updated. I could follow the manual update but I hear most people like to flash from GB ROMs because they're stable?
also, I'm sorry, I don't understand flashing kernels. Don't we have to flash an ICS rom before we flash a kernel? And I thought the AOSP kernel was stock with Milestone 6?
rovar: So should I Odin back to EL26, re-root and install a recovery? Does that have a better recovery?
I'm wondering if I should just unzip the files and try again...
You can flash the EL26 cwm kernel on to the phone as is. If its rooted sfhubs auto root tool can do it for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728. If its not rooted you can flash the tar for it in odin. http://chris41g.devphone.org/index.php?dir=EpicTouch/Stock+Repack/EL26/
As far as FF18 goes the leak was the OTA you can NoData one click for an OTA like experience where things are not perfect or wipe the phone with full data. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
I can approach the rom/kernel question from 100 angles. But you need a kernel with the proper recovery to flash the rom, when you flash the rom the kernel is overwritten with the kernel in that rom. To get another kernel you once again have to flash a kernel. I do not keep up with AOKP. CM9 since alpha 6 has a safe cwm5 based recovery and it + the nightlies use a repacked stock kernel. Chris 41g is testing some from source kernels for both, the AOKP one requires his version of milestone 6 and thats my extent of knowledge on the state of AOKP kernels.
AOSP roms flashed with EK02 through EL29 rogue brick. Chris41gs EL26 CWM has been the tried and true kernel. You could flash the kernel of a TW or AOSP rom, the phone will not boot until a matching rom is installed but we did the reverse (EL26 kernel while the rom was still ICS) all the time.
Thank you. I found a video that showed how to get stock EL26 CWM Kernel installed via Mobile Odin. I am trying to make a second backup because I'm not sure the Rogue Nandroid is compatible but it's having trouble making a backup from here. It seems that it's only recognizing 200mb of free space and I know there's a lot more.
It seems that the EL29 Rogue backup I made won't restore to the EL26 kernel/EL29Rom I'm now running. I'm going to delete the old backup and try to make a new one.
Anyway, sounds like I'm pretty close!
And I'm now running AOKP. Thanks so much! You guys were fast and helped a ton!
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And I'm now running AOKP. Thanks so much! You guys were fast and helped a ton!
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Nice. I bet the addiction is already setting in. I just went from CM9 Nightly 7-22 to an early 4.1.1 AOSP build back to TCP's 7-28 CM9 which i had no clue what to expect from but I am on it now. Must must must flash them all!
Edit - I just flashed FF18 forgot I wanted to PRL update and fix my boot image while I was at it.
Hello all. Just bought a Samsung Epic 4G touch on Sprint and so far I'm definitely digging the phone. I sold my beloved HTC Evo 4G (had a fear tears and memorial) and now am a happy Samsung owner. I've got to say out of the box the phone works with no issues at all. Currently on EL29 stock (Rooted) and have NOT accepted nor received any OTA ICS 1st or 2nd official OTA build. On my Evo I flashed soooooo many roms...anything from Cyanogenmod to a couple of the "3D" roms....had a blast and loved my phone. I am now looking to get experienced with flashing AOSP roms or anything for that matter....Kernels....Modems....and of course roms. It seems different from what I have read. I know on my Evo 4G I was running CWM and I could flash anything...anything Os didn't matter it would work fine. Am I correct in reading that once I flash either the manual Official upgrade to ICS I cannot downgrade unless I do it carefully so as I do not hard brick my phone? how about flashing ICS Or Jellybean AOSP roms...?
As far as I no, the problem isnt going from ICS to GB roms. The problem is with going from ICS to other ICS roms. It is called the EMMC bug, if I am correct. If u wanna go from ICS to ICS, you wud have to go back down to GB, then flash an ICS rom.
I believe that the Agat recovery potentially fixed this problem,but caution is still advised.
If u wanna read some of this 1st hand,which i recommend, u can go here or search around for the eMMC bug
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
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As far as I no, the problem isnt going from ICS to GB roms. The problem is with going from ICS to other ICS roms. It is called the EMMC bug, if I am correct. If u wanna go from ICS to ICS, you wud have to go back down to GB, then flash an ICS rom.
I believe that the Agat recovery potentially fixed this problem,but caution is still advised.
If u wanna read some of this 1st hand,which i recommend, u can go here or search around for the eMMC bug
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
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ok So for example I'm running Gingerbread EL29, if I wanted to try out CM9 or CM10 ICS/JB I would be ok???
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ok So for example I'm running Gingerbread EL29, if I wanted to try out CM9 or CM10 ICS/JB I would be ok???
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Yup, as long as you're using CWM 5.
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Yup, as long as you're using CWM 5.
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ok Let's say I upgrade to Cyanogenmod ICS or JB and wan't to downgrade back to Gingerbread EL29 do I just wipe everything in CWM5 then flash like a normal rom?
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ok Let's say I upgrade to Cyanogenmod ICS or JB and wan't to downgrade back to Gingerbread EL29 do I just wipe everything in CWM5 then flash like a normal rom?
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I would odin back to EL29. Or use direct boot kernel. It only boots up to GB CWM and then flash GB ROM or restore GB nandroid. The brick bug is from flashing ICS to ICS or ICS back to GB. But agats kernel has a safe recovery to flash ICS to ICS. I do it all the time.
Bottom line is don't do a factory reset in recovery with CWM 5 or any of its variants. That's what can fry your emmc partition. Instead you can safely do a full wipe with Calkulins Format All Zip for the E4GT. It uses GB binaries so it's safe. There's a full wipe zip and a modified one that doesn't wipe your data. I don't have a link handy but it's easy to find with Google search.
Agat63's new kernels are safe to wipe with too. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28639835
Stay away from Rom Manager. Our phones are far different than your Evo. The recovery has to be baked into the kernel unlike the Evo which could apply a recovery on top of the kernel with Rom manager. Mobile Odin is my preferred method of flashing kernel tar files.
I have flashed a calkulin TW Rom on my girls phone a long while ago, it is android 2.3. She has been asking me to flash an ICS Rom on her phone or even JB if everything works. I just started reading around on here and it seems to have gotten very confusing with all of this kernel talk and everything. Can someone tell me if I can flash a updated kernel while still on this old Rom, and then backup this android 2.3 Rom, then flash an ICS or JB Rom? I need to knkw if she doesn't like the new Rom, will I be able to restore the old 2.3 Rom with this new kernel and recovery. Can someone explain this to me, or point me to the best thread to learn about this phone again. I'm used to HTC devices and they seem way less confusing than this phone. Thanks in advance.
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I have flashed a calkulin TW Rom on my girls phone a long while ago, it is android 2.3. She has been asking me to flash an ICS Rom on her phone or even JB if everything works. I just started reading around on here and it seems to have gotten very confusing with all of this kernel talk and everything. Can someone tell me if I can flash a updated kernel while still on this old Rom, and then backup this android 2.3 Rom, then flash an ICS or JB Rom? I need to knkw if she doesn't like the new Rom, will I be able to restore the old 2.3 Rom with this new kernel and recovery. Can someone explain this to me, or point me to the best thread to learn about this phone again. I'm used to HTC devices and they seem way less confusing than this phone. Thanks in advance.
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An updated kernel? If you mean ICS or JB kernel you cant do that.. You can only use gingerbread kernels with gingerbread.. Now if you want to try some JB / ICS
Just make a back up of what you have... Grab your rom of choice
Wipe everything(its safe since your on GB), and flash your ICS/JB rom (kernels are included with these roms so no worries)
Now when you want to restore just go back into the recovery of your rom(whatever you flashed) and restore the calk rom.. It will be just like you left it
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
Ok, thanks for the extremely quick reply. I have also seen things about unsafe recoverys or something of the sort. I'm on a very old recovery on her phone. What would you suggest I update the recovery to before I do this? I believe it has the cwm rogue recovery on it now if I remember right. Thanks again.
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Ok, thanks for the extremely quick reply. I have also seen things about unsafe recoverys or something of the sort. I'm on a very old recovery on her phone. What would you suggest I update the recovery to before I do this? I believe it has the cwm rogue recovery on it now if I remember right. Thanks again.
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If you are familiar with odin or mobile Odin.. I'd odin /mobile Odin the El26 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662295.. Unless you are on el26 now? It been a minute since I been on GB
But ICS kernels are now safe (agats, kuban kernel) to flash from and restore your back up to GB
JB kernels are safe as well to restore your back ups /flash from
I never *flashed from a jb kernel tho.. I always play safe and mobile Odin el26 before flashing from a JB kernel
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Just go to the Android development forum (not original development) there's a sticky there called kernel repository find any gingerbread kernel and as long as it's not rouge recovery you'll be able to backup her current ROM and flash any new one you want. I say avoid rouge because seems a lot of people myself included couldn't flash roms from rouge. And if you want to do jellybean sbrissen's kernel/recovery is safe to flash back any ROM as well. I did it last week
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Hey guys, just got my E4GT yesterday. I installed the rooted GB27 via the one click method. Then installed kernel/recovery through mobile Odin and the tar from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40549220
I am coming the Nexus S 4G (got the epic via a warranty swap) and a Nexus 7, so things here are WAY more complicated. I have been reading like crazy to get a grasp of the flow of how to do things with this device, but I keep getting what seems like either conflicting information or gaps in knowledge.
So what I want to do is switch to an AOSP ROM like PAC or CM, as TW UX is so not jiving with my nexus sensibilities. So since I am currently on all JB partition images I am to understand that I need to switch to a ICS modem. Now this might be a seemingly stupid question, but is there a perfered version of it? I see quite a few ICS modem and don't know to choose and nothing seems to give advice in this regard (at least that I can find). My only guess would be the largest number would be final ICS modem and thus should be the most stable/best available. Thoughts?
Then recovery, I see that the recovery I have installed is for only TW jellybean Roms. So I would have to flash another kernel/recovery prior to flashing my aosp ROM of choice. The GB - EL26 seems to be recommend from many sources, and I want to avoid the whole emmc brick mess. So is that the preferred recovery to flash from? And just so I understand, once I flash a ROM it will then inject its own kernel/recovery images correct?
So every time I want to flash a new ROM, I would start with installing that gingerbread recovery, then reboot recovery into that recovery, full wipe (factory reset,wipe cache/dalvik cache), flash ROM+gapps, and reboot. What about nandroid? Since I am switching recoveries so often are nandroid good across different recoveries? Or not? I am used to being able to have a few backups handy to always be able to get back to a working ROM.
Anyway, thanks in advance for any advice you have to offer. I hated having to ask these questions, but better to ask than end up with a paperwieght.
Your reading has paid off, looks like you got it down. FL24 is the newest ICS modem. EL29 directboot kernel is pretty easy to use, only problem is that it can't flash modems. But you can do that after you get AOSP booted up.
Nandroids are only good on the recovery that they are made on, but all the AOSP ROMs use the same recovery. If you use garwynn's v0.4.1 GB27 kernel it uses that same recovery as well, that's how I go about it. You'll catch on quick don't worry.
Search for Mobile Odin it will save you a lot of time.
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Your reading has paid off, looks like you got it down. FL24 is the newest ICS modem. EL29 directboot kernel is pretty easy to use, only problem is that it can't flash modems. But you can do that after you get AOSP booted up.
Nandroids are only good on the recovery that they are made on, but all the AOSP ROMs use the same recovery. If you use garwynn's v0.4.1 GB27 kernel it uses that same recovery as well, that's how I go about it. You'll catch on quick don't worry.
Search for Mobile Odin it will save you a lot of time.
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I got it working, and am running rootbox. Being back on aosp feels like home, I hate TW!!
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hlxanthus said:
I got it working, and am running rootbox. Being back on aosp feels like home, I hate TW!!
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I like things about both, mostly just the music on TW. But yeah, I usually stick with AOSP. I've got 8 AOSP ROMs in the Android Development section when you get around to it. Welcome to the madhouse btw.