SHW-M410K seems Wave 3 aka S8600...
1.
Firmware?
Maybe we can find in FUS...
2.
How to enter Store?
I can find only Android...
Thanx in advance.
Best Regards
If I change Kies to korean, I can find store...
Angry Birds for instance for FREE...
But with my account I can't download... and I am tooo lazy to make new Samsung Account especially for korean store.
Best Regards
adfree said:
If I change Kies to korean, I can find store...
Angry Birds for instance for FREE...
But with my account I can't download... and I am tooo lazy to make new Samsung Account especially for korean store.
Best Regards
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in korean store signup is too difficult.try on kies to sign up.you will see what they maked
I am also too lazy to create new Samsung Account for "korean Kies"...
Maybe later.
I saw Tank Game Trial...
I'll check whats new or for free...
Firmware would be interessting for study.
Maybe someone found SHW-M410K for Download.
Best Regards
adfree said:
I am also too lazy to create new Samsung Account for "korean Kies"...
Maybe later.
I saw Tank Game Trial...
I'll check whats new or for free...
Firmware would be interessting for study.
Maybe someone found SHW-M410K for Download.
Best Regards
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I little tried to search fw.for korean wave.anywhere couldn't find it.Maybe you are true.Someone can fibd this
In SHW-M210S (S8530) store, Angry Birds also for free...
Best Regards
korean store is totally different
if you want to sign up there you should have your name and a code which is registered on their server (this means you cannot sign up if you havent bought your phone from korea)
and IF you can download anything from their store you should change the code ex:"SHW-M210S" to our code ex:"GT-S8530" using the hex viewer method
but this store is very great
usually most of good games are free there
it would be great if we can enter
adfree said:
In SHW-M210S (S8530) store, Angry Birds also for free...
Best Regards
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Maybe if we found korean wave 2 and 3 firmware 's.We can make something
adfree said:
In SHW-M210S (S8530) store, Angry Birds also for free...
Best Regards
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I uploaded apps_compressed For SHW-M210S.I think maybe you can make Something
Here They are http://www.share.az/n7xwogh334r3/apps_compressed.bin.html
so where do themselves (Korean people) find their firmwares? when its not available on the net lol
maybe just the samsung resellers of Korea have these firmwares
no idea
But what can we do with the registration ?
I try sniffing to find out what is that (BUT i think every thing is encrypted using SSL and i cannot do anything )
r_22009 said:
But what can we do with the registration ?
I try sniffing to find out what is that (BUT i think every thing is encrypted using SSL and i cannot do anything )
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http://www.kssn.yoyo.pl/
It is the Maker Fake Registration number,But I couldn't do anything
you sure these numbers are for samsung apps?
the problem is that they should validate our names too
Any news
hey I have Good News
It is Twit from Sammobile.Maybe Tomorrow we see Korean Wave 3 Firmware
We know about the official korean rom. We will add more Korean roms soon.
Code:
Product Code: SHW-M210SBSKT
Latest firmware: M210SKSKG1/M210SSKTKF1
Modified: 25.07.2011 13:51:35
Filename: SHW-M210S_SKT_1_20110725135129.zip.enc2
Meanwhile I'll try to investigate in this...
As I remember... bada 1.x need no account to download....
Only little problem is...
SHW-M210S or
SHW-M410K
Is exact 1 Byte longer as:
GT-S8600_
At the moment no idea if it is easy to insert 1 Byte... as file increase and position not more correct... in apps_compressed.bin...
Maybe I'll try to check S8500B or S8500L or something like this...
Maybe MBUKI...
Best Regards
adfree said:
Code:
Product Code: SHW-M210SBSKT
Latest firmware: M210SKSKG1/M210SSKTKF1
Modified: 25.07.2011 13:51:35
Filename: SHW-M210S_SKT_1_20110725135129.zip.enc2
Maybe I'll try to check S8500B or S8500L or something like this...
Maybe MBUKI...
Best Regards
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Did You Do Anything ? ?
Bada 2.0 Available Korean Wave II (SHW-M210)
In this Case may be anything doing ??
Product Code: SHW-M210SBSKT
Latest firmware: M210SKRLC1/M210SSKTLC1
Modified: 06.03.2012 11:48:40
Filename: SHW-M210S_SKT_1_20120306114828.zip.enc2
Korean Wave II (SHW-M210)
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Can't remember korean S8500 Version.
How is korean S8500 name?
SHW-M???
Did You Do Anything ? ?
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Yes, but no real progress...
Best Regards
adfree said:
Can't remember korean S8500 Version.
How is korean S8500 name?
SHW-M???
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i think S8500 version isn't
I never See it
Related
As it was noted in some of the threads here the last two digits in the ROM version apparently the region code.
So let say even if it is an Asian ROM but one is x.xx.831.1 and another is x.xx.707.1 they are not for the same region(?) and one will not flush over the other without Hard-SPL.
I'm trying to figure out the version coding. It looks, for example, that x.xx.831.1 is for Hong Kong.
These are the codes I know... maybe there are some more...
click me
regards
demacus said:
These are the codes I know... maybe there are some more...
click me
regards
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Anyone know what 479 is for?
tnyynt said:
Anyone know what 479 is for?
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no such thing..look here:
http://www.science.co.il/Language/Locale-Codes.asp
Guarani (Paraguay)----1140 0474
Latin----------------------1142 0476
Somali--------------------1143 0477
Maori (New Zealand)--1153 0481
Hi, I believe I can help here
Here's a list of language codes (proudly stolen from the Windows Vista OPK )
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/9214/languageidentifiersjp5.png
Edit: ah crap, I was too slow / didn't read properly
Hi,
I was wondering if there is any way to extract the firmware from my S8500T handset? I'm wanting to do this as there is no copy of this firmware available and I want it as a back-up in case things go wrong with flashing to other firmwares.
my S8500T runs S8500MBJF2, S8500HUTJF2
any ideas?
thanks!
What country / provider is your phone?
@ beigebullet
Please post Product Code you see this via sTune. Something like this : GT-S8500BAADBT
So I could try something...
About your Question.
Not impossible, but only JTAG known to dump Firmware.
Best Regards
KrazyKong said:
What country / provider is your phone?
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my phone is Australia and Three Hutchison
adfree said:
@ beigebullet
Please post Product Code you see this via sTune. Something like this : GT-S8500BAADBT
So I could try something...
About your Question.
Not impossible, but only JTAG known to dump Firmware.
Best Regards
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Ah do you mean 'Product Name'? In sTune all I get is xxxxxxxxxxxx.
I've manually changed my CSC from HUT (ie. Three Hutchison australia) to KOR but I can change that back if needed...
I've uploaded a pic of what it shows me
Ah do you mean 'Product Name'?
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Yes, correct.
xxxxxxxx I saw several times.
This means NV item 2757 (HEX Value) is empty.
Kies without valid Product Code do nothing.
Best Regards
P.S:
S8500T
Attention!
I'm not sure. But for instance S8500R seems to have problems with normal Firmware... maybe incompatibility.
adfree said:
Y
xxxxxxxx I saw several times.
This means NV item 2757 (HEX Value) is empty.
Kies without valid Product Code do nothing.
Best Regards
P.S:
S8500T
Attention!
I'm not sure. But for instance S8500R seems to have problems with normal Firmware... maybe incompatibility.
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Hmm, so can I somehow get a valid Product Code from Samsung?
And yes, the S8500T is not compatible with normal firmware, as the T version runs on 850/2100Mhz bands, not the 900/2100 on standard firmware. This is the reason I want to extract the firmware from my phone, as I'd like it for a backup.
Thanks for your help adfree
hi bada users tomorrow at 12:00 netherlands time sammobile will release a new bada 2.0 firmware (s8500MBUKI1). it's a vodafone firmware. please flash it with multiloader 5.65. for more info go to sammobile.com
lets talk here about this new firmware.
Enjoy!!
Meanwhile you could read here...
http://www.sammobile.com/threads/449-S8500MBUKI1-(Bada-2.0)
Best Regards
Let`s hope it will be stable and usable (KH3 is kind of buggy).
SamMobile Team proudly presents a new bada firmware, we are currently testing everything for you all, also we will list here the changes and what you should know before flashing and stuff like that. It is a Vodafone firmware and not 100% complete but instead of KH3 usable.
DevilM said:
SamMobile Team proudly presents a new bada firmware, we are currently testing everything for you all, also we will list here the changes and what you should know before flashing and stuff like that. It is a Vodafone firmware and not 100% complete but instead of KH3 usable.
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allright thanks
1 hour left.... cant wait
It seems now online.
Downloading to PC...
Best Regards
Edit 1.
Short installed...
Nothing really "amazing" found... yet.
Yepp. Still Beta...
Maybe later if more time...
adfree said:
It seems now online.
Downloading to PC...
Best Regards
Edit 1.
Short installed...
Nothing really "amazing" found... yet.
Yepp. Still Beta...
Maybe later if more time...
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But it works OK, and you can install LOW rsrc2 so you don't need to change the debuglevel. It seems to be faster, there are preinstalled widgets and they works. Twitter and Facebook in Social hub works but the apps are missing. Pretty much everythig works.
Alright I installed it and have to say I like it, no crashes yet and overall it`s faster than KH3. If you move the camera it seems to be faster too. Widgets are also working. There are 4 widgets in total: Calendar, Analog clock, Date and time widget and weather widget)
How come, samfirmware were allowed to release another Beta-ROM? I thought they were scared to do that since Samsung put pressure on them. Or is it a final ROM? Why would Vodafone even bother bringing out some Beta-ROM?
Code:
Type : Unofficial Version
Number : 262
Builder : Dell02
Host : SCMDELL16
Date : [B]2011/09/16[/B]
Time : 19:35:07
Size : 42468732 bytes
CheckSum : 0xef3c5853
This Version is around 1 month old...
Maybe Samsung internal Versions much closer to Final...
S8600 stuff are from October...
Best Regards
Adfree
Can you tell me how to find the date of S8600 FWs???
i want to know how new they are
i tried apps_compressed.bin decyrept but found nothing
Best Regards
i tried apps_compressed.bin decyrept but found nothing
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Same result...
I can see only ELF Header at start... and then later some readable data.
Best Regards
Edit 1.:
This time with open eyes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18379790&postcount=18
433Mhz said:
How come, samfirmware were allowed to release another Beta-ROM? I thought they were scared to do that since Samsung put pressure on them. Or is it a final ROM? Why would Vodafone even bother bringing out some Beta-ROM?
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They just said they are watched by Sammy and that they'll step back, nothing about beeing actually under pressure.
Either way: the new ROM is blaaazzzzing fast.
Restore functionality from KIES now works for me for everything except apps. (though several restores in a row may crash the phone).
I love Sammy and Bada
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EMI41LUU
Here is content of RC1 and CSC... compressed part...
I have both folders copied:
Code:
System
SystemCSC
For study.
Best Regards
When Samsung will change the 5.1 mode in bada 2.0 ?? The sound is crap with the mode enabled. (crackling, crap sound for some mp3...)
Sorry for off topic , but i couldnt find thats y asking
1 after flashing this ..can i get back to stock Indian firmware . If yes , please give link to me
2 can i use this for both ..means wave s8500 and wave II
1. yes first flash to this indian firmware http://www.multiupload.com/PUHB6CFHWO.. then update to latest via kies..
2.no only wave 1
Is it possible to port wave 3 inbuilt themes monkey and other flash themes to wave 1 & 2.
If these themes are from Samsung Apps - no. Because of encryption based on IMEI number.
If the theme isn't encrypted ([theme_name].smt, encrypted themes have added ".dcf") and you can find that file via sTune in AppEx -> Sys/User and extract it, then the theme should work on Wave and Wave II.
Vishal for using the bada 2.0 themes or flash themes you need to be on any of the beta versions. Then you can have any flash theme or bada 2.0 theme on your wave 1 or wave 2. Below is the tutorial how can you do that....
http://www.badahub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=8&sid=03d079ac267956f1e83d1c7347322dae
hello
Dear Tapan, Thanks for your prompt revert.
I am very much enjoying the bada 2.0 themes on my beta firmware.
I opened this thread to request if someone could extract the inbuilt themes of wave 8600. Flash monkey theme (shown in youtube).
...extract the inbuilt themes of wave 8600...
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They are NOT inbuild... preinstalled or whats ever...
You can download them from store...
DIFFERENT protection... NOT same like apps... better protected.
Tough protection... but funny at all.
I know only 2 Themes in store...
Gorilla and Infinity... since months...
Infinity Trial should also be available for S8500/S8530 if not again removed...
Seems much harder to use Action Script (Flash) to design such themes...
Best Regards
I fail to understand why samsung is making things tough for bada users.
The only thing which i was able to get from samsung were themes as they are not able to provide basic apps which any other phone has.
Now, they have started blocking the themes also. we are at mercy of samsung until we sell our phones.
ı dont thınk so
Can any one provide me the link to Gorilla theme (Wave 3) for my wave 1.
Is it available in wave 3 store?
Is it available in wave 3 store?
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Gorilla is in S8600 AND S7250 Store.
BOTH I can install on S8500.
Both are Fullscreen.
But I have no idea how to solve this AES128 thingie... aka .dcf Encryption...
For themes.
Apps is no problem.
You can enter S8600 store with S8500 easier then with S8530 yet. Solution is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21623889&postcount=45
AT YOUR OWN RISK!
Strange is, all other Themes are leaked... why not Gorilla...
Best Regards
when you click on the gorilla theme... it says product not available in this store
it says product not available in this store
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Yes, this is correct.
But I have not written you should try to enter this store.
Replace apps_compressed.bin...
I was only wondering, because someone upload somewhere paperman, rainblabla...
I had not realized, that they are from store...
Link forgotten, to lazy to search...
But I have never seen Gorilla.smt
Now the question is.
Why?
Why Paperman.smt leaked?
Again, all ways I have tried ended with Gorilla.smt.DCF
DCF is AES encryption...
It is useless to copy, as my IMEI is involved and you can't decrypt...
Only way is to fake your handset as S8600 or S7250 and install via Kies or store on handset...
If you find other way. Tell me.
Best Regards
Edit 1.
Added Link:
http://www.samsungapps.com/topApps/topAppsDetail.as?productId=G00002340884&listYN=Y
This is what we talking about? Correct?
And this is what you can install via provided Link... posted before by me.
Paperman theme was provided as an example in bada_Platform_Extension_1.0.0_426
It wasn't leaked from the store at all
Remember this ? : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19552617&postcount=31
It is your own post
Remember this too ? : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19084545&postcount=17
Thanks Trzebiat for admitting this
Best Regards
bada 2.0.. great
mylove90 said:
Paperman theme was provided as an example in bada_Platform_Extension_1.0.0_426
It wasn't leaked from the store at all
[...]
Thanks Trzebiat for admitting this
Best Regards
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You're welcome
Paperman theme is available in Samsung Apps: http://www.samsungapps.com/topApps/topAppsDetail.as?productId=G00002340984
But version in the store has new icons. The version which I've exported in STD has the default ones. In bada Flash Extension library only flash samples from Paperman were provided. Without icons.
adfree said:
Yes, this is correct.
But I have not written you should try to enter this store.
Replace apps_compressed.bin...
I was only wondering, because someone upload somewhere paperman, rainblabla...
I had not realized, that they are from store...
Link forgotten, to lazy to search...
But I have never seen Gorilla.smt
Now the question is.
Why?
Why Paperman.smt leaked?
Again, all ways I have tried ended with Gorilla.smt.DCF
DCF is AES encryption...
It is useless to copy, as my IMEI is involved and you can't decrypt...
Only way is to fake your handset as S8600 or S7250 and install via Kies or store on handset...
If you find other way. Tell me.
Best Regards
Edit 1.
Added Link:
http://www.samsungapps.com/topApps/topAppsDetail.as?productId=G00002340884&listYN=Y
This is what we talking about? Correct?
And this is what you can install via provided Link... posted before by me.
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Thanks for the link, yes it is the same one...
I am not able to decide whether or not to use this hack to enter the store.
Is it possible to extract all the pictures and files using the theme developer and build it from scratch for all bada 2.0 users?
Is it possible to extract all the pictures and files using the theme developer and build it from scratch for all bada 2.0 users?
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Again.
Higher Security for Flash Themes.
I have NO way found to decrypt *.dcf themes...
Sorry.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1345375
If you know how to catch smt files, then let me now.
Best Regards
adfree, not only for flash themes, for all. I think Samsung made higher security for themes in bada 2.0 because in 1.x themes had no protection
...not only for flash themes, for all.
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DCF aka AES encryption is "joke" for apps and old themes...
Only new Flash themes are protected REALLY with AES128... on Samsung Server.
Btw...
I saw this today... over 12 MB Theme...
http://www.samsungapps.com/topApps/topAppsDetail.as?productId=G00003910548&listYN=Y
Maybe soon we need more space for Flash themes.
Best Regards
Update: Those who are facing issues with installation of flash themes using this method.
After deletion of the pre installed themes using stune or any other way except default theme. i am able to install the gorilla theme but as soon as the installation occurs in the phone, in kies, it shows error "faulty installation"
Now, installation part needs to be taken care. I hope it will be soon.
badaapps.ru as found how to desactivate .dcf files for the app (i don't now if it works for themes)
all is here in russian (thx google trad)
Hi there xda mates
I Just recived my new watch that i bought in amazon, and i Would like to update its Tizen verision to the last one UI .. But some how i could not find the update in my watch*
1)i found here some upgrade guides for similaier models, but not exectly mine, will it still work?
2)if this wont work, so what firmware guide wiill?
3)i really want this update, is there any other ways to get it?
Thanks in advance*
shinsplit24701 said:
Hi there xda mates
I Just recived my new watch that i bought in amazon, and i Would like to update its Tizen verision to the last one UI .. But some how i could not find the update in my watch*
1)i found here some upgrade guides for similaier models, but not exectly mine, will it still work?
2)if this wont work, so what firmware guide wiill?
3)i really want this update, is there any other ways to get it?
Thanks in advance*
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No one?? ? ?
SM-R805UZSAXAR/ R805USQUIBRJ6
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If I see this... IMHO you have US device for US market... SM-R805U...
IMHO you can ONLY use Firmware of this EXACT Model Name... nothing else or you create tiny little trouble...
You can brick your device with wrong Firmware...
If you use Google with this Search word:
Code:
R805USQUIBRJ6
You will find your 2 posts...
Try instead this:
Code:
R805USQU1[B]BSE3[/B]
https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-R805U/ATT/doc.html
Strange... I can not see for XAR... but for ATT ...
T-Mobile... US:
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-38218
Code:
R805USQU1[B]CSK1[/B]
One UI 1.5 Update
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This Version is not leaked as netOdin package...
Best Regards
adfree said:
If I see this... IMHO you have US device for US market... SM-R805U...
IMHO you can ONLY use Firmware of this EXACT Model Name... nothing else or you create tiny little trouble...
You can brick your device with wrong Firmware...
If you use Google with this Search word:
Code:
R805USQUIBRJ6
You will find your 2 posts...
Try instead this:
Code:
R805USQU1[B]BSE3[/B]
https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-R805U/ATT/doc.html
Strange... I can not see for XAR... but for ATT ...
T-Mobile... US:
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-38218
Code:
R805USQU1[B]CSK1[/B]
This Version is not leaked as netOdin package...
Best Regards
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Thank you my friend!!!
So if i search for this model R805USQU1BSE3 here or by Google, there's a good chance that you will be able to find an update that is suitable for my watch?
P. S sorry for my English ?
shinsplit24701 said:
Thank you my friend!!!
So if i search for this model R805USQU1BSE3 here or by Google, there's a good chance that you will be able to find an update that is suitable for my watch?
P. S sorry for my English ?
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Please ignore my previous reply.. ?
I searched for my watch version R805USQUIBRJ6 and found the same version on T-mobile!
website... https://s.amsu.ng/fErEQ423dbeN
So what is my next step from here?
I new at this.. So Thanks for your patience
Oh...
BSE3 and 2 more are for instance here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/galaxy-watch/firmware-r805u-t3936826
Best Regards
Hello all can anyone give me some information on my watch, just got last week. I have not received the update yet. I'm in the USA and on Verizon.
SMR805UZSV any information would be greatly appreciated.
Hello all can anyone give me some information on my watch, just got last week.
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Maybe other users have Crystal Ball... I have no Crystal Ball.
Easy things to do... to find usefull infos...
A
We type funny Code into our Watch:
Code:
*#1234#
This Code is IMHO working in Samsung Phones etc more then 10 years...
B
Active CSC...
User described here 1 easy way:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=81190183&postcount=31
Their are few more ways to identify the active CSC in your device...
Methods like ... I can smell... or I thought I bought it in... are less helpfull in case of identifying what is important for "Firmware update" questions...
Best Regards
TMB Lies.... Again
Update 2/3/2020:
T-Mobile support just successfully pushed R805USQU1CSL2 to my watch
3rd time lucky
Thanks T-Mobile
adfree said:
If I see this... IMHO you have US device for US market... SM-R805U...
IMHO you can ONLY use Firmware of this EXACT Model Name... nothing else or you create tiny little trouble...
You can brick your device with wrong Firmware...
If you use Google with this Search word:
Code:
R805USQUIBRJ6
You will find your 2 posts...
Try instead this:
Code:
R805USQU1[B]BSE3[/B]
https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-R805U/ATT/doc.html
Strange... I can not see for XAR... but for ATT ...
T-Mobile... US:
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-38218
Code:
R805USQU1[B]CSK1[/B]
This Version is not leaked as netOdin package...
Best Regards
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T-Mobile now shows:
Baseband version:
R805USQU1CSL2
R815USQU1CSL2
Available January 27, 2020
UI graphical element changes (UI 1.5)
S Health enhancements (Outdoor swimming trajectory & distance enhanced. Auto-session calorie logic added. Heart rate calorie calie logic added.)
Updated to Bixby 2.0New watch faces
This new version is NOT yet available, don't know who keeps updating their "latest version" page, but they should be fired... ?
Cost me hours of phone time with TMB support then Samsung support, only to find out here that Version R805USQU1CSL2 is still in r&d, not ready for distribution yet... And so we wait. ?
Thank you very much for the information.
...Version R805USQU1CSL2 is still in r&d, not ready for distribution yet
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IMHO not 100% correct...
A
Unknown if you go to T-Mobile Service... maybe they flash CSL2
But B.
I am 100 % sure this Firmware is leaked and ready to use with netOdin.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=81650159&postcount=395
Own risk!
But you can wait and wait and wait... or you try...
If trash... you can go back to BSE3 IMHO also leaked and free available as netOdin package...
Best Regards
Thank you for the link, I've downloaded it.
T-Mobile service, at least the people I've spoken to here in the USA don't seem to know much about the Samsung Watch... At all.
I'll wait a bit longer for answers to questions I've sent them. If they still can't help, I'll flash it myself.
Thanks again for all your help ????
I thought I'd give T-Mobile support one more try... 3rd time lucky ? I reached some one who knows their stuff.
They pushed the update to my R805U a few minutes ago.
The update worked smoothly, busy applying the new Bixby update... Then I'll take a look around and checkout the new stuff.
However, I have no idea why the Wearable App would not get the update initially.
Thanks for the help. ??