Develop Bugs

Will wiping out device wipe out the content in /sdcard/ ??

Hi,
Sorry for being a noob but i came from android phones with sdcards and this is the first time i had one without a sdcard card slot..
the main question is, if i wipe the device, will the content in the /sdcard folder that i transferred via MTP (photos, music, Nandroid backups, etc) be wipe out as well?
I am asking because I swear the i did a wipe yesterday and ALL the content in the phone is gone, including the things i put in the /sdcard folder...
just need to clarify or maybe i am crazy? Please help..

There is no SDcard. Its all one big partition. Doing a factory reset wipes the entire device. Yes your pictures and videos, too.

lordlad said:
Hi,
Sorry for being a noob but i came from android phones with sdcards and this is the first time i had one without a sdcard card slot..
the main question is, if i wipe the device, will the content in the /sdcard folder that i transferred via MTP (photos, music, Nandroid backups, etc) be wipe out as well?
I am asking because I swear the i did a wipe yesterday and ALL the content in the phone is gone, including the things i put in the /sdcard folder...
just need to clarify or maybe i am crazy? Please help..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, the /sdcard folder actually points to /data/media. Doing a factory restore resets the /data partition, including the contents of /data/media. This means everything put in /sdcard will be erased.

That's stupid. Really stupid. I factory reset my phone all the time... Am I supposed to copy everything back over every time... Eh that would suck.
My transformer and G2x had internal memory and a factory reset from clockworkmod didn't touch the internal storage.
Nvbackups would copy everything though.
-sent from temp HTC Rezound waiting for Galaxy Nexus

player911 said:
That's stupid. Really stupid. I factory reset my phone all the time... Am I supposed to copy everything back over every time... Eh that would suck.
My transformer and G2x had internal memory and a factory reset from clockworkmod didn't touch the internal storage.
Nvbackups would copy everything though.
-sent from temp HTC Rezound waiting for Galaxy Nexus
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Instead of doing a factory reset, you could just delete everything in /data except for /data/media. That will achieve the same thing and leave your media data alone.

Wiping data and cache in CWM do NOT wipe my whole phone what are you guys talking about? The /sdcard is treated and mounted as if it were a physical SD card.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

joshnichols189 said:
Wiping data and cache in CWM do NOT wipe my whole phone what are you guys talking about? The /sdcard is treated and mounted as if it were a physical SD card.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmmmmmmmm.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

joshnichols189 said:
Wiping data and cache in CWM do NOT wipe my whole phone what are you guys talking about? The /sdcard is treated and mounted as if it were a physical SD card.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah if you just wipe your data/cache via CWM it DOES NOT touch anything in your /sd card. However doing a factory reset via the settings menu while booted does!

RTContent said:
Yeah if you just wipe your data/cache via CWM it DOES NOT touch anything in your /sd card. However doing a factory reset via the settings menu while booted does!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ok just to be clear, because people (me lol) get confused when people talk about the SD card when talking about the nexus. obviously there isnt one...so im assuming the partition that handles the media is what u refer to as the Sd card...virtual sd card. correct? and if i wipe data/cache via CWM it does NOT wipe my pictures, videos, etc...but if i factory reset under settings while booted...it WILL wipe EVERYTHING...i think i got it now if what i just said was correct...

v2.2v said:
ok just to be clear, because people (me lol) get confused when people talk about the SD card when talking about the nexus. obviously there isnt one...so im assuming the partition that handles the media is what u refer to as the Sd card...virtual sd card. correct? and if i wipe data/cache via CWM it does NOT wipe my pictures, videos, etc...but if i factory reset under settings while booted...it WILL wipe EVERYTHING...i think i got it now if what i just said was correct...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You got it
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

joshnichols189 said:
Wiping data and cache in CWM do NOT wipe my whole phone what are you guys talking about? The /sdcard is treated and mounted as if it were a physical SD card.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1.. all these people are thinking the phone doesn't have a "sdcard." There is a "sdcard" but its more like internal storage. Think of it as a computer,
- Older phones like the G1 rely on the SDCard fully... so this is like running a OS off a USB drive without internal storage (G1 has a little internal storage.. not enough to say that there is one)
- Phones such as Galaxy S1/S2 have a sdcard AND internal storage. What does this mean? It's like a internal hard drive with the ability for external storage (flash drive, sd cards).
Example: Galaxy S2 has 16GB internal storage and expandable storage.
Phones like the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, Galaxy Tab is like.... internal hard drives without the ability for expanded storage (unless you USB OTG a flash drive!). This is just a beyond misconception on the scene and this is what they meant by not having a sdcard.
When you do a factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik... your /sdcard/ IS NOT TOUCHED unless you run a script that says otherwise!
/sdcard/ and all the other folders are treated as two separate partitions!

When you unlock your bootloader and it wipes, that deletes everything, including the sdcard folder.

yea i was about to say this is incorrect information, if you want to wipe everything i believe in the ARHD thread there is a wipe script to wipe everything, even data/media

azr3alazd3ycum said:
yea i was about to say this is incorrect information, if you want to wipe everything i believe in the ARHD thread there is a wipe script to wipe everything, even data/media
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Super wipe lite from the ARHD thread does not wipe the virtual SD card.
--- This script will erase and format your system and cache partition using EXT4 file-system ---
--- It will also wipe /data partition, but /data/media (virtual SD card) will be untouched ---
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

All your personal files that would be stored in SD Card in other devices which has one, are stored under /data partition, at /data/media/.
The /sdcard/ is just a link to /data/media.
There seems to be special handling in CWM recovery image for Galaxy Nexus when formatting /data partition as it will not touch /data/media. It's nice feature indeed, but you cannot now empty your /data/media content without manual work. But normally you don't even want to do that so it's fine.
It would be much more simple to just forget about the "virtual sd card" or /sdcard, since those are just, well, virtual and makes unnecessary confusion.
So our files are now stored like they would be under C:\Users\media. If you format C-drive, you'll lose your 'personal' files as well from media folder. The "virtual sdcard" /sdcard would be just a similar as Windows has as "Favorite" feature, just a shortcut to a certain folder location.

joshnichols189 said:
Super wipe lite from the ARHD thread does not wipe the virtual SD card.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was referring to the full one. Its not out for the nexus yet. He has it for the transformer however.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

hey guys,
found this thread searching for an answer, i'll go ahead and ask it right here as it fits the the topic:
what i want to do when installing another rom is to wipe (system) data, cache and Dalvik cache (and i do not want my private files on the sd card to be touched). it is clear to me that CWM does not touch the sdcard partition. BUT: since all the apps are installed onto the sdcard partition they won't be deleted, right?
i want all my apps to be gone and to have a completely fresh new system installed without ANY leftovers from apps or apps/data or anything else that got stored on the sdcard partition while using the previous rom. of course these apps would not be installed anymore when you boot up the new rom, but all their files and folders would still remain on the sdcard partition, right? i'm talking about all those files that the rom generates itself and stores on the sdcard partition. of course i want to keep all my music, downloads, pictures, etc. but i want everything else to be gone.
to my understanding cwm does not touch the sdcard partition which leaves all the app folders and other android-created-files and folders (that were automatically created when using the previous rom) untouched and i would have to manually look for all these files and delete all these remnants which is kind of annoying.
do you know what i mean?
thx and greetz,
v.

vercetti said:
hey guys,
found this thread searching for an answer, i'll go ahead and ask it right here as it fits the the topic:
what i want to do when installing another rom is to wipe (system) data, cache and Dalvik cache (and i do not want my private files on the sd card to be touched). it is clear to me that CWM does not touch the sdcard partition. BUT: since all the apps are installed onto the sdcard partition they won't be deleted, right?
i want all my apps to be gone and to have a completely fresh new system installed without ANY leftovers from apps or apps/data or anything else that got stored on the sdcard partition while using the previous rom. of course these apps would not be installed anymore when you boot up the new rom, but all their files and folders would still remain on the sdcard partition, right? i'm talking about all those files that the rom generates itself and stores on the sdcard partition. of course i want to keep all my music, downloads, pictures, etc. but i want everything else to be gone.
to my understanding cwm does not touch the sdcard partition which leaves all the app folders and other android-created-files and folders (that were automatically created when using the previous rom) untouched and i would have to manually look for all these files and delete all these remnants which is kind of annoying.
do you know what i mean?
thx and greetz,
v.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When you clear all your data/cache when installing a new rom it will also wipe apps that have been installed on your sdcard. This does not include removing folders that apps may store additional data on the sdcard. If you want to remove these folders unfortunately you will need to do it manually.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

Installed apps do not go in /data/media, but /data/app and /data/data. I dont think /data/cache exists, /data/dalvik-cache does.
Those are only erased if you do a wipe data/factory reset in cwm/twrp, and for the latter wipe dalvik cache.
sent from my i9250

Internal storage

I have a question, does the internal storage (the "sd-card") also get wiped if you do a full wipe (data/cache/factory reset)?
Lets say I have JellyBelly installed and do a backup of it do I have to copy it to my computer if I install another ROM if I don't want to lose it?
Hope you understand

Pjodor said:
I have a question, does the internal storage (the "sd-card") also get wiped if you do a full wipe (data/cache/factory reset)?
Lets say I have JellyBelly installed and do a backup of it do I have to copy it to my computer if I install another ROM if I don't want to lose it?
Hope you understand
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No internal sdcard does not get wipe Only your personal info on the rom does (apps, contacts etc...) your internal sdcard remains untouched
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

yuukimoonstar said:
No internal sdcard does not get wipe Only your personal info on the rom does (apps, contacts etc...) your internal sdcard remains untouched
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks! That was what I wanted to know

Internal memory low

Hi, Im running MIUI v4 and when I go to App Manager It says I have about 54MB left in my internal storage. However, When I try to download Skype (about 25MB) It says that my internal storage is full. I'm not sure if thats a system bug or it's not showing my internal storage correctly? Any ides on this?

srtjko said:
Hi, Im running MIUI v4 and when I go to App Manager It says I have about 54MB left in my internal storage. However, When I try to download Skype (about 25MB) It says that my internal storage is full. I'm not sure if thats a system bug or it's not showing my internal storage correctly? Any ides on this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It Does.
In CWM partition your SD card to ext4 and
try ex2int --> put it to init.d folder in rom package and reflash your phone. After restart and reboot you will have a space from sd card on your phone.

lokocool said:
It Does.
In CWM partition your SD card to ext4 and
try ex2int --> put it to init.d folder in rom package and reflash your phone. After restart and reboot you will have a space from sd card on your phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
One question. I understand I have to reflash ROM for this but can I use a backup to restore it after wipe so I dont't have to install everything all over again, Or I must reflash NEW ROM?

Use odex version.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using xda premium

srtjko said:
One question. I understand I have to reflash ROM for this but can I use a backup to restore it after wipe so I dont't have to install everything all over again, Or I must reflash NEW ROM?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Take a titanium backup...

Check all files are linked.
Integrate davlik into System ROM using titanium backup.
reboot.

where're the ROM zips stored?

Hi everyone...
I am looking at buying an LG e975, which is supposed to be 32GB and no SD card, and I was taking a look at forums to see how active is the ROM development.
I have no experience with phones with no SD, usually with SD, you copy the zip files to SD card and you install them in Recovery...
so.. how is this done with no SD card?... actually... for storing docs, pics, music... does the phone have a separate partition of that internal memory designated for personal data? similar to having an SD?... does wiping Data, Cache, formatting system affect the internal memory where you have your files stored?
I am pretty much curious on how the whole ROM flashing, backing up and restoring of Apps (I use Titanium backup) is done with no SD card.
Thank you!.

atmos929 said:
Hi everyone...
I am looking at buying an LG e975, which is supposed to be 32GB and no SD card, and I was taking a look at forums to see how active is the ROM development.
I have no experience with phones with no SD, usually with SD, you copy the zip files to SD card and you install them in Recovery...
so.. how is this done with no SD card?... actually... for storing docs, pics, music... does the phone have a separate partition of that internal memory designated for personal data? similar to having an SD?... does wiping Data, Cache, formatting system affect the internal memory where you have your files stored?
I am pretty much curious on how the whole ROM flashing, backing up and restoring of Apps (I use Titanium backup) is done with no SD card.
Thank you!.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This section is not for the e975. It's for the Sprint LG-LS970. Sorry .
Sent from my LG-LS970 using xda app-developers app

Your sdcard is just a directory in your data media folder. It basically works the same as a physical sdcard. EXCEPT you cannot mount it in recovery, so if you wipe it while in recovery you'll have to adb push any files you plan on flashing.
Factory Reset in TWRP wipes /Data, /Cache, and /Dalvik. This does not include your Internal Storage ("sdcard"). It's usually all that is necessary before flashing a new ROM, as a /System wipe is almost always performed by the ROM you're flashing.
However, if you select the Data check box in the Advanced Menu, this will also wipe your Internal Storage ("sdcard"). This is because your sdcard is actually just a /Media folder inside of /Data (meaning /data/media).
Check this out:
http://teamw.in/datamedia

jonahly said:
This section is not for the e975. It's for the Sprint LG-LS970. Sorry .
Sent from my LG-LS970 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
my question wasn't related to a particular model but to how the whole ROM flashing and storing backups is done when no SD slot is available... I chose this forum as I did not find one for e975 and they both have same specs.
spackmanbr said:
Your sdcard is just a directory in your data media folder. It basically works the same as a physical sdcard. EXCEPT you cannot mount it in recovery, so if you wipe it while in recovery you'll have to adb push any files you plan on flashing.
Factory Reset in TWRP wipes /Data, /Cache, and /Dalvik. This does not include your Internal Storage ("sdcard"). It's usually all that is necessary before flashing a new ROM, as a /System wipe is almost always performed by the ROM you're flashing.
However, if you select the Data check box in the Advanced Menu, this will also wipe your Internal Storage ("sdcard"). This is because your sdcard is actually just a /Media folder inside of /Data (meaning /data/media).
Check this out:
http://teamw.in/datamedia
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
aaaaaaannd this is what I was looking for... thank you very much. .

No problem. Glad I could help.

[Q] Some prob with internal storage

Guys, after i flashed android L rom, there is nothing in internal storage all files went to ext storage y?

What rom..?

Alex-V said:
What rom..?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
its rooted android l stock rom

Strange.. It should be the opposite.. Try again.. And format internal before in recovery

Alex-V said:
Strange.. It should be the opposite.. Try again.. And format internal before in recovery
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes, i did that twice still same prob.

Did you format data.. Not wipe.. If not try.. If also not try a other rom

Alex-V said:
Did you format data.. Not wipe.. If not try.. If also not try a other rom
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you very much, i formatted my data and it worked

Alex-V said:
Did you format data.. Not wipe.. If not try.. If also not try a other rom
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i got another problem, i cant find my TWRP backup folder in the internal storage :/ . backed up 2 times for this it took space like 1.5X2 GB but it is not visible in the internal storage in the computer. idk why plz help

live16 said:
i got another problem, i cant find my TWRP backup folder in the internal storage :/ . backed up 2 times for this it took space like 1.5X2 GB but it is not visible in the internal storage in the computer. idk why plz help
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you format internal.. The backup is deleted.. Thats why I always use the ext sd for backups..
Btw.. My first backup I copied also to my pc

Alex-V said:
If you format internal.. The backup is deleted.. Thats why I always use the ext sd for backups..
Btw.. My first backup I copied also to my pc
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, i can still see my backup files in twrp and 3 gb lost and cant find the twrp back up folder in both internal and sd card :/

Did you see a twrp folder

@live16: from TWRP, Backup, Storage setting, you should have a choice of Internal Storage, Micro SDcard and USB-OTG and the free space shown for those.
If you select Micro SDcard your backups should be at the top level of the SD card /TWRP/BACKUPS/'PHONEID"/...

gazzacbr said:
@live16: from TWRP, Backup, Storage setting, you should have a choice of Internal Storage, Micro SDcard and USB-OTG and the free space shown for those.
If you select Micro SDcard your backups should be at the top level of the SD card /TWRP/BACKUPS/'PHONEID"/...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
nope not there :/ i tried in both sd and internal