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Saw this on the front page of xda today. Mr.Highway from team inferno (mt4g) created a guide for porting aosp roms from one device to another.
He said his guide should work for almost any device. Figured id post this in our dev section. I am in no way affiliated with this guide or team inferno. All credit goes to Mr.Highway.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1512319
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This is useful stuff to an extent, but without sources and drivers, it's near impossible to make an AOSP ROM like ICS as you'd figure. We don't have any of the distinguished code to make the ROM "compatible" with our device.
How about an HTC Sense port? Last i heard, HTC was to release the souce code for the Sense UI or something like that for DEVs.
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How about an HTC Sense port? Last i heard, HTC was to release the souce code for the Sense UI or something like that for DEVs.
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What do you like about sense? If you just want the looks like the 3D interactions... There are launchers for that
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Joy2DaWurld said:
This is useful stuff to an extent, but without sources and drivers, it's near impossible to make an AOSP ROM like ICS as you'd figure. We don't have any of the distinguished code to make the ROM "compatible" with our device.
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you guys have source......
you have had it a few days after the phone launched..
The Widgets really. I like the weather widget and the dock where it says phone and whatnot.
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Every rom I see by that team is always a alpha version I have yet to see a fully completed rom by that team.
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Yes they do? How about cm 7?
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Yes they do? How about cm 7?
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or CM6, CM5 etc...
A better question would be is a rom ever complete? There will always be bugs that are found that do need to be fixed just like Android in general it's never really "done" there are always updates to it that fix things.
What gingerbread rom do they have for our phone. Looking to try them out.
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What gingerbread rom do they have for our phone. Looking to try them out.
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Well you do realize that our phone is CDMA, Proprietary code is not available for some of the hardware which greatly increases the time it takes to develop our phones ports.
If you like the idea of a Complete CyanogenMod you should grab an international GSM phone preferably a stock AOSP device. You will have a "complete" rom alot faster than you ever will with a sprint device.
The OG epic only became officially supported not long ago.
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What gingerbread rom do they have for our phone. Looking to try them out.
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There is no "official" GB rom from CM for this phone. Rootzwiki has an "unofficial" CM7.1/2 that's no longer supported however. We are getting "official" CM9 and the Alpha 1 is in the Dev section.
Lol wut? Is this your first android device?
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Lol wut? Is this your first android device?
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Lol
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cidica said:
There is no "official" GB rom from CM for this phone. Rootzwiki has an "unofficial" CM7.1/2 that's no longer supported however. We are getting "official" CM9 and the Alpha 1 is in the Dev section.
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I was told that the Alpha 1 wasn't official.?
There are at least 3 or 4 Cyanogenmod attempts for our phone, isn't that a set team that always develops or can anyone attempt a Cyanogenmod? Don't understand how there can be multiple Cyanogenmod ROMs for our phone?
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There are at least 3 or 4 Cyanogenmod attempts for our phone, isn't that a set team that always develops or can anyone attempt a Cyanogenmod? Don't understand how there can be multiple Cyanogenmod ROMs for our phone?
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I think you mean to say there are multiple AOSP-based (original ICS w/o Touchwiz) ROMs for our phone.
Sbrissen and Darchstar are currently working on CM9 for our phone.
T.C.P. has released AOKP, Gummy, and Codename Android for our phone.
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There are at least 3 or 4 Cyanogenmod attempts for our phone, isn't that a set team that always develops or can anyone attempt a Cyanogenmod? Don't understand how there can be multiple Cyanogenmod ROMs for our phone?
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Anyone is free to take the CM code and build their own ROM. That's the beauty of open source. All they ask is that such derivative builds are labeled as kangs or otherwise make note that they are using CM9's codebase.
Anyone can become a member of CM if they do good work such as committing bug fixes to the project and take a role in supporting CM on a particular device
Darchstar's build should be considered the "official" CM9 build for our phone. He's part of the CM team. However, until he or others are able to build a working kernel from source for the E4GT and not use Samsung's we won't have a truly CM9 build.
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Every rom I see by that team is always a alpha version I have yet to see a fully completed rom by that team.
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No rom is complete without official ice release.. they don't even have source for our phones yet for ics. Therefore it cannot be completed.. plus kudos to the person who said it will never be complete based off of bugs plus there are always ways to improve a rom regardless; of how "complete" it is.. would you want a dev to make a rom then never update it? They can't make it official until everything is working..
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Nothing is ever finished in android
Notice the carriers always pushing fixes. ICS will probably be updated within a month after official drops.
Just the nature of the beast.
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Android has become more and more complex to develop for (both in terms of skill and computing power), and the true developers (not including people who just modify existing roms) have become more spread out across devices.
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Rejoice!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2027337
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World be awesome
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Oh f**k yes!!! but I'm pretty sure the device maintainers is arco
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Hell yeah
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doesn't have galaxy s plus in the list......
but i also have galaxy w,W cm rom can port to s plus?
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hell yeah finally we got official support from cyanogenmod! :good:
Hats off to Sir Arco and all other developers. It's due to them that we have grabbed some attention !!!
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It's the best news for W and S+ users! Of course CM10.1 can be ported to S+. I am supporting arco for this, Galaxy W improves further than before!!!
Great news and i'm happy that the Galaxy W is still getting supported even if it has been long forgotten by Samsung.
this is very suprising news , only can think arco as the maintainers
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Eh... who said anything about official support? That was just a proof that it's actually booting. At this point, that's about it, as pretty much nothing else is working and it's extremely buggy. Getting it to a working state may take a loooong time, and also depends on whether Qualcomm will provide sources that supports the 7x30 platform on 4.2.
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Eh... who said anything about official support? That was just a proof that it's actually booting. At this point, that's about it, as pretty much nothing else is working and it's extremely buggy. Getting it to a working state may take a loooong time, and also depends on whether Qualcomm will provide sources that supports the 7x30 platform on 4.2.
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so it is a lie?
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arco68 said:
Eh... who said anything about official support? That was just a proof that it's actually booting. At this point, that's about it, as pretty much nothing else is working and it's extremely buggy. Getting it to a working state may take a loooong time, and also depends on whether Qualcomm will provide sources that supports the 7x30 platform on 4.2.
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I just want to ask, will you release cm10 with half-usable 3.x kernel, I mean, thats severe of user don't mind using camera and video record, so its worth a shot because everybody love and want to try the butterness
thanks master
Hope it will be soon, but it's enough to have W with 3.x.x kernel and CM10 for now. When Samsung forgot the W, it's good to see arco and CM Team are working on this device. Keep working on that guys.
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Rejoice!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2027337
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I've read the whole thread, and not. a. single. post ever mentioned the source of the list.
So, since there is no official news release from the Cyanogenmod team, I'd say that this is hearsay...
Yes, no trustable source. I'm asking myself, why would someone add our phone to the list of the new Cyanogenmod and imply a change of policy of CM?
Thanx arco for clearing things up.
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I just want to ask, will you release cm10 with half-usable 3.x kernel, I mean, thats severe of user don't mind using camera and video record, so its worth a shot because everybody love and want to try the butterness
thanks master
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Ye I'll see if I can do a build of CM10 with 3.x kernel soon. Things are a bit overwhelming at the moment, with 3 Android versions to work on, so it's hard to find enough time to spend on them. I'm beginning to feel that Google should slow down their release cycle a bit. As it is now, there's barely enough time for us devs to get a version stable, before they release a new Android version and we'll have to start all over again.
So it seems all we have to do is to wait for now
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No!!!!! Say it ain't so! I love CyanogenMod so much this might actually stop me from buying the single most awesome device I have ever waited for. I guess that says a lot about the CyanogenMod Team.
http://www.cultofandroid.com/24475/samsung-galaxy-s4-wont-be-supported-by-cynogenmod/
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That's Sucks.
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Doesn't mean jack. Someone will end up doing a port of CyanogenMod to the S4, whether or not the CM team gives its "blessing." At this point, there's nothing they can do to stop it.
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The question is whether it will be a functional stable port but I am staying optimistic.
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True, but I've learned to never underestimate the ingenuity of the Android development community.
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They already stated that this post doesnt speak for the whole CM team. Just some of the Samsung maintainers.
We should have all seen this coming with the lack of developer support Samsung has been doing as of late.
Will someone make a port? Most likely. will it be as stable as a CM version? Most likely not. To be honest. The S4 is nothing big compared to the S3. Yes it has a few cool features but those features will be lost on AOSP. Mainly as Samsung will not release the code for it so you will only see those features on a TW rom.
Isn't it a bit early to for a definitive "no" about a CyanogenMod?
Like the phone I read isn't being released 'till the end of April as the earliest estimate.
I am not really hugely disappointed to be honest. I have to say the stock rom on this phone is one of the better ones and I do use it quite often. If any phone can stand alone on stock it is this one in my opinion.
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If you want all the stuff to really work you already need a TW based ROM anyways. I don't see Sammy opening up more with sharing code, smells like they are going the other way.
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If you already have an s3, why even buy an s4? Huge waste of money for such a minor upgrade. Besides, any feature that is not hardware dependant will be made available on the s3 anyways. And if you want Aosp, those features will most likely not even be available anyways so what's the point?
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If you already have an s3, why even buy an s4? Huge waste of money for such a minor upgrade. Besides, any feature that is not hardware dependant will be made available on the s3 anyways. And if you want Aosp, those features will most likely not even be available anyways so what's the point?
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AGREE.....s3 will be getting full OS support for 2 year that is 5.0 is guaranteed.....why not wait for galaxy s next series hoping at least the design changes and not look like GALAXY GRAND Samsung sucks in Design innovation for its devices xD :thumbdown::thumbdown:
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Shahan_mik3 said:
AGREE.....s3 will be getting full OS support for 2 year that is 5.0 is guaranteed.....why not wait for galaxy s next series hoping at least the design changes and not look like GALAXY GRAND Samsung sucks in Design innovation for its devices xD :thumbdown::thumbdown:
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I liked the Captivate's design, one of the best IMO.
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There will probably be lesser CM support for the international S4 model due to developers frustration with Exynos chips. Us version, however, will be shipped with good fully supported Qualcomm Snapdragon processor and should be fine receiving developers love.
Edit: to sum it up, here is an official CyanogenMod stance on topic from their Google + page. Well put!
CyanogenMod10:59 AM - Public
Setting Device Expectations
Let’s start with the simplest form of this: CyanogenMod does not pre-announce support or lack of support for devices. Ever. Even for the Nexus 4, we did not announce support until a nightly build was available. Further, any announcement regarding the ‘dropping’ of device support will be communicated via this Google+ page, Twitter, Facebook, our blog, or a combination of those; it will not be something buried in a forum post.
This morning, a comment from a CM collaborator on XDA was taken to be as an ‘absolute’ in regards to support of the S4. He offered the opinion of four TeamHacksung maintainers, their frustrations and lack of interest in supporting the S4. What’s seemingly lost on those reading this is that his comments as an individual do not speak for CyanogenMod as an organization.
As for the team’s stance on the S4, there isn’t one at this time, and most definitely won’t be one before the device is sold at retail.
-The CyanogenMod Team
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I was about to post a ss of that very post. Oh, here it is anyway. For the unbelievers.
If I wanted a buggy build of Android that delivers less battery life, less stability, and less features than TouchWiz, just so I could say that I'm running stock Android, I'd go with CM. Therefore at the present, this development is of no concern to me. I have ran CM on all of my previous devices including the Evo and Galaxy S2. Worked decently well on the Evo (better than Sense), but lots of issues with the S2. With my S3, absolutely no reason to get away from TouchWiz.
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If I wanted a buggy build of Android that delivers less battery life, less stability, and less features than TouchWiz, just so I could say that I'm running stock Android, I'd go with CM. Therefore at the present, this development is of no concern to me. I have ran CM on all of my previous devices including the Evo and Galaxy S2. Worked decently well on the Evo (better than Sense), but lots of issues with the S2. With my S3, absolutely no reason to get away from TouchWiz.
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Im split on this really. I like the new features of 4.2..and it irks me that id be on 4.1.2 if i went Sammy, but I do miss the 'everything works' feel of a Sammy rom.
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If I wanted a buggy build of Android that delivers less battery life, less stability, and less features than TouchWiz, just so I could say that I'm running stock Android, I'd go with CM. Therefore at the present, this development is of no concern to me. I have ran CM on all of my previous devices including the Evo and Galaxy S2. Worked decently well on the Evo (better than Sense), but lots of issues with the S2. With my S3, absolutely no reason to get away from TouchWiz.
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Loooooooool
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TouchWiz isn't all that bad, IMO.
But I far and away prefer to run AOSP.
Sucks to hear that some members of CyanogenMod aren't happy with the S4, or Samsung in general.
I upgrade phones every year. Why not. But I've learned my lesson. I won't upgrade again until CyanogenMod has matured for a few months for ROM's on any particular phone.
Flashing a new ROM every two-three days hoping to find something fixed, suxes. I'd rather have an awesome ROM than an awesome phone.
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Im split on this really. I like the new features of 4.2..and it irks me that id be on 4.1.2 if i went Sammy, but I do miss the 'everything works' feel of a Sammy rom.
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That's the thing, I don't have time to screw around with flashing nightlies hoping that whatever problem I have is fixed, and praying that no new problem is introduced. I dealt with this with every phone I've had in the past, and it's not fun. I agree that the new features of 4.2 are nice, but not nice enough to deal with the issues of AOSP. Besides, TouchWiz is fast, fluid, and gets excellent battery life, and has far more features than stock Android. To me, CM is a downgrade and a headache. A phone is a tool, not a project.
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If you already have an s3, why even buy an s4? Huge waste of money for such a minor upgrade. Besides, any feature that is not hardware dependant will be made available on the s3 anyways.
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That screen would be really nice though, and a good chunk bigger than the One.
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why dont u people try to build an AOSP rom instead ofa CM....coz probably cm is sumthing that is modifications made to AOSP....and even the touchwiz ui is modified AOSP so if we can have a AOSP build itll probably be easier for us to build these roms..
...if sum one is ready to help me learn about building roms from source ill sure try making CM's and AOKP and paranoid and what not
is better but its based on AOSP.....its like imagine AOSP as a stock rom and CM as a custom rom...wait why imagine..its actually like that....so the basic idea is to improve performance...where CM show up...but whats the base CM uses??...its AOSP....so if we have a perfect AOSP which is obv possible...coz Samsung wouldn't be able to build TouchWiz withouta base...for obv reasons...so why not try building an AOSP first and then continuing with CM
do u even know whatcha sayin?
tl;dr
Here's some math:
No sources = no base
No base = no sources
No sources = no cm
No cm = no aosp
So unless you try to find a way to make those proprietary sources available then I'd suggest doing some research.
Also even if you tried you'll fail, we have the best devs for sgy working hard for that goal and we're honestly not making good progress. Well except for percy and his cm9 and psycho's cm7 but still a long way from "stable as stock".
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My information might not be correct. A friend of mine told me this.
See cm is made by aftermarket developers keeping in mind that it can support lot of different phones.
On the other hand aosp was made for nexus phones so they don't give a damn that it works on other phones or not. They are just selfish lol.
So building pure aosp is tougher compared to cm. Cm has modifications on aosp to support different phones.
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prototype-U said:
My information might not be correct. A friend of mine told me this.
See cm is made by aftermarket developers keeping in mind that it can support lot of different phones.
On the other hand aosp was made for nexus phones so they don't give a damn that it works on other phones or not. They are just selfish lol.
So building pure aosp is tougher compared to cm. Cm has modifications on aosp to support different phones.
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Naman...we haven't tried making AOSP yet so we cant just confirm this and it cant be that it was made for nexus only coz its an open source project so they must have probably kept in mind that many dev's will try to have it on different devices ..... the Gingerbread that our SGY uses is nothing but a custom rom of the aosp which we call as stock....
for obv reasons...samsung would not have made their own android os right...they have used google sources....the point is...the time dev's have spent on making CM if would have been focused on AOSP we might just have a build close enough to psycho's work!
and what ive learned or i might be wrong in this that psycho used aosp's sources for the fixes....Maybe wrong about this...i just read it somewhere here!.....and as our device has the largest community of awesome dev's why not we try the AOSP thing out??
we cant just conclude without trying...can we??......some months back people were like we wont have a CM....we have a working CM7 and CM9 which are working pretty fine except for the driver bugs....same way,we might just end up having an AOSP...
another hope to Young GT-S6310. need a great developers to make it true
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My information might not be correct. A friend of mine told me this.
See cm is made by aftermarket developers keeping in mind that it can support lot of different phones.
On the other hand aosp was made for nexus phones so they don't give a damn that it works on other phones or not. They are just selfish lol.
So building pure aosp is tougher compared to cm. Cm has modifications on aosp to support different phones.
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Maybe you should see this. www.cyanogenmod.org/about
And also about android opensource project. Google gives aosp source to all manufacturers as part of aosp allience/programme which they further modify. And first phone running android was not nexus to say that they don't give damn about other devices. And the number of devices running CM is still very low.
Like I said, a friend told me about it.
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If we get a set of experienced Devs who want to help out we might get aosp
Also if stock is like a custom aosp
That means our phone must support AOSP!!
Only need some experience Devs :sly:
As i said its all about aosp....just need sum1 to teach me these sources and setup stuff....i would like to start working on it as soon as possible!
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Our devs are already experienced :sly:
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Reynaldi said:
Our devs are already experienced :sly:
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he is trying to tell we need dev's who have experiance compiling source roms not dev's who are great with adding tweaks and theming the our samsung stock rom's.....source compiling is far different from the rom i made or many of the roms available in our threads....
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he is trying to tell we need dev's who have experiance compiling source roms not dev's who are great with adding tweaks and theming the our samsung stock rom's.....source compiling is far different from the rom i made or many of the roms available in our threads....
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There are very less people or maybe no one who has source development experience.
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There are very less people or maybe no one who has source development experience.
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i know...thats the reason ive been looking around google for sumthing that could get me some help .........its hard i guess ill have to take percy's help :?
How about making thread "all devs come here please help us to compile cm for our device" in another device board? Lol jk
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How about making thread "all devs come here please help us to compile cm for our device" in another device board? Lol jk
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Veru funny dude! ( --..-- )
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Reynaldi said:
How about making thread "all devs come here please help us to compile cm for our device" in another device board? Lol jk
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Really bro?._.
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I am new here.......
Don't be rude and hit thanks
Device : Samsung Galaxy Y
ROM : Hyperion 8 pre gm alsa build 0.2
KERNEL : Savie's
I say start saving money for a new phone.
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I say start saving money for a new phone.
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sorry naman but why buy a new phone? we have lots of roms and kernels. also we can oc the device to 1.25ghz and have a gpu. this is the best phone for a developer. even if it ends up bricking or lost, no regrets since a low cost phone. lets just finish what we started. perseverance is the key man.
sorry but i am not flaming you, i am a big fan of yours and i love the kernel
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sorry naman but why buy a new phone? we have lots of roms and kernels. also we can oc the device to 1.25ghz and have a gpu. this is the best phone for a developer. even if it ends up bricking or lost, no regrets since a low cost phone. lets just finish what we started. perseverance is the key man.
sorry but i am not flaming you, i am a big fan of yours and i love the kernel
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man.. they are just stock based roms.. everyone is upgrading these days, android 4.3 has been released and you are still on 2.3.6. Which makes you guys really outdated..
Kernel? yeah there are huge number of kernels here but if you notice that most of em have same features See other phones like nexus 4. They have whats called "real" kernel development.
Pico which is 1k more expensive is 100 times better than this phone and you also know it. Why not buy that? I sold my Y for 3.5k and another 3k can buy you a arm7 phone. Which wont get outdated for another year atleast..