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New Archos Gen 9 tablet ICS+1.5GHZ+1Go Ram

ICS
1.5 ghz (omap 4460)
1 go de ram
http://www.jbmm.fr/?p=26999

is there any benefit to have 1gb ram? I can't think of anything I could possibly do to use that much ram on my tablet. does it increase overall stability or anything?

1gb really?
...are you *positive* about 1gb ram? The ARCHOS website doesn't mention it like that and from what I hear the new ones too have "only" 512mb.

ducatisto said:
...are you *positive* about 1gb ram? The ARCHOS website doesn't mention it like that and from what I hear the new ones too have "only" 512mb.
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if cajl says it it's probably true. besides it makes sense. all manufacturers are gonna jump on the bandwagon and make all devices with 1gb+ ram

for the 1go YES it is true - mail from Archos -
the benefit...what benefit. Perhaps a little more....

cajl said:
for the 1go YES it is true - mail from Archos -
the benefit...what benefit. Perhaps a little more....
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I think it's not much difference.....Into Nexus S with 512Mb RAM and only 1GHz ICS run very well almost as fluently as Motorola RAZR 1Gb RAM and with dual-core 1.2GHz
Problem is slightly different if we refer to games !

Yes for the game

Not 1gb RAM in A80
Have just received a brand new 1.5Ghz Archos 80 G9 ref 502036 expecting 1gb RAM: system info app confirms 1.5 Ghz but only 466Mb RAM (i.e. 512Mb model).

where have you buy this model ?

Hi cajl I bought it in the UK: couldn't get it anywhere until last Friday when I got a stock notification email: now quite a few suppliers are offering it again.
Some suppliers are advertising it as 1gb but Archos on their web store do not specifiy the RAM (all with the same model number).
I have contacted Archos but honestly, the guys there do not have a clue! They have escalated my query this time however, which is, "is there a 502036 available with 1gb RAM, because my model only has 512mb".
One of the suppliers advertising it as 1gb is also following up the query for me with Archos. All they can say is that Archos notified them the new stock would be 1gb RAM but their item looks identical to mine in every way (and to the one on the Archos web-site - all the same model number of course too).
Very surprised that even with part number, model number, product ID and everything, Archos could not tell me what my RAM was: I had to download an app to find out myself.
They also insisted that unless Ice cream sandwich was pre-installed, it was not 1.5Ghz: but mine definitely is, even though it still only has Android 3.2!

MikeEdward said:
Hi cajl I bought it in the UK: couldn't get it anywhere until last Friday when I got a stock notification email: now quite a few suppliers are offering it again.
Some suppliers are advertising it as 1gb but Archos on their web store do not specifiy the RAM (all with the same model number).
I have contacted Archos but honestly, the guys there do not have a clue! They have escalated my query this time however, which is, "is there a 502036 available with 1gb RAM, because my model only has 512mb".
One of the suppliers advertising it as 1gb is also following up the query for me with Archos. All they can say is that Archos notified them the new stock would be 1gb RAM but their item looks identical to mine in every way (and to the one on the Archos web-site - all the same model number of course too).
Very surprised that even with part number, model number, product ID and everything, Archos could not tell me what my RAM was: I had to download an app to find out myself.
They also insisted that unless Ice cream sandwich was pre-installed, it was not 1.5Ghz: but mine definitely is, even though it still only has Android 3.2!
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I have a 501840,
Came preinstalled with honeycomb and showed only 512 RAM until I updated to ICS where it shows 1GB.

One user from this forum just had de same problem...do the update to ics and it should say 1GB...it due kernel limitations in honeycomb...
this did the trick for the guy i+m talking about...i hope
MikeEdward said:
Hi cajl I bought it in the UK: couldn't get it anywhere until last Friday when I got a stock notification email: now quite a few suppliers are offering it again.
Some suppliers are advertising it as 1gb but Archos on their web store do not specifiy the RAM (all with the same model number).
I have contacted Archos but honestly, the guys there do not have a clue! They have escalated my query this time however, which is, "is there a 502036 available with 1gb RAM, because my model only has 512mb".
One of the suppliers advertising it as 1gb is also following up the query for me with Archos. All they can say is that Archos notified them the new stock would be 1gb RAM but their item looks identical to mine in every way (and to the one on the Archos web-site - all the same model number of course too).
Very surprised that even with part number, model number, product ID and everything, Archos could not tell me what my RAM was: I had to download an app to find out myself.
They also insisted that unless Ice cream sandwich was pre-installed, it was not 1.5Ghz: but mine definitely is, even though it still only has Android 3.2!
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yes .. the update on ICS increase the RAM !!!!
Archos, it's a kind of magic !!!

magic indeed! Even as I read this thread, updates appear to have downloaded - but still I have 466 MB ram. Let me see if a reboot will activate the magic for me!

Is it the honeycomb update or the ice cream sandwich one?
For me, I could not update to ice cream sandwich with the tablet updater. I had to manually download the update here:
http://update.archos.com/9/gen9/gen9_4.0.4/firmware_archos_it4.aos
Download this file, connect the tablet to your computer, copy this file over onto the tablet, the tablet should ask you if you want to install the update (if it doesn't, find and select the file in the file browser on the tablet) then let it update.
Once you have Ice Cream Sandwich running you should have your 1gb of RAM.

Unbelievable: magic indeed! Tablet has auto updated (once I realised I had to request the install) from honeycomb to ICS and now has full 1gb ram (well, 'max 892Mb anyhow')!
Why o why can't Archos put this basic information on their web-site instead of just staying absolutely silent about the RAM? Only you guys, especially calj, not even Archos customer service or tech support (not at the customer interface level anyhow) have any idea what is going on! I guess the update would have happened anyway, but some of us like to know what is going on and to be sure we have got the right product.
Thanks again to all who have correctly informed me here.

Does this also apply to the 1.2GHz Turbo models? When I updated to ICS, it didn't show the 1GB of RAM, but I'm hopeful if I downgrade to Honeycomb, then upgrade to ICS that it might "unlock" it.

Dabaum said:
Does this also apply to the 1.2GHz Turbo models? When I updated to ICS, it didn't show the 1GB of RAM, but I'm hopeful if I downgrade to Honeycomb, then upgrade to ICS that it might "unlock" it.
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No, it doesn't apply to 1.2, Archos added memory very recently and it's only available on what they called ICS models.
It's not the fimrware installation that unlocks it, it's because ICS kernel is the only one that can handle it. So downgrading/upgrading won't work, and downgrading is not possible anyway.

Got my g9 101 ICS 1.5ghz 1gb few days ago. Seems like hdmi-out is completely broken for me. Tried with the official 4.04 and the test firmware no change. Have also tried keeping hdmi connected when booting the device and still nothing. Is everyone with g9 101 ics having this same issue?

Max 890MB
Dear All,
I am new to forum. I just bought the 1.5Ghz and updated to ICS. My RAM is showing 890mb max. Please is this equivalent to 1gb ram

[Q] Lag and Game Support

Hi Guys,
I am planning to buy this phone in the coming months.
Couple of questions:
1. Is there any lag that you have experienced after installing a lot of apps because of the limited 512MB RAM? And my friend bought this device but it shows a total of only 384MB RAM, why is that?
2. How is the game performance of the Adreno 205 on this device. Does it support most of the games with good performance?
Asking these questions because i come from using Samsung Galaxy 3 (no GPU and 256MB RAM) and these were the two main problem areas for me. Do not want to repeat the same .

If I Remeber Correctly it has the same CPU\GPU as the Desire S\HD and they play the games pretty well. and regardless of the phone you WILL get lag when tons of crap is installed even if it's the ONE X or the S3. And it shows 384mb of ram because the rest is allocated to Android System. hope this has helped you

games in the category of shadowgun runs fine
nova3 and higher doesnt works
and for the ram issue u alrdy have got an answer
go for the phone i garantee ul nt repent

Games are running fine on this tiny phone . Well, not those beasts games that needs 1gb ram or Nvidia gpu's (if any) but the decent and good games are played well on One V. Buy the phone if you don't have other option because it is a fine one!

Lloir said:
If I Remeber Correctly it has the same CPU\GPU as the Desire S\HD and they play the games pretty well. and regardless of the phone you WILL get lag when tons of crap is installed even if it's the ONE X or the S3. And it shows 384mb of ram because the rest is allocated to Android System. hope this has helped you
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Thanks for your input .
Yup i am fully aware how Android runs apps. It's just that my current device had 130MB free storage on an average and all that gets used up with all the important apps. Even with those many apps the phone used to lag (it was OC'd to 1Ghz plus using the V6 supercharger mod). With a better phone i expect to be able to install a few more apps that i had to compromise on earlier and a few games. I was just making sure that my new phone doesn't frustrate me like my last one (it was the best mid-ranger of its time).
paarthdesai said:
games in the category of shadowgun runs fine
nova3 and higher doesnt works
and for the ram issue u alrdy have got an answer
go for the phone i garantee ul nt repent
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Thanks, will check them out (although I was not aware of these games before). My question though was more on the lines of compatibility. Because currently 90% of the games I browse show that they are incompatible with my device . I know the GPU is only a modest one and wont be able to run those FPS genre games very well. But how about those graphics heavy puzzle and arcade games (like Temple Run, World of Goo and Jelly Defense).
1ceb0x said:
Games are running fine on this tiny phone . Well, not those beasts games that needs 1gb ram or Nvidia gpu's (if any) but the decent and good games are played well on One V. Buy the phone if you don't have other option because it is a fine one!
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Thanks, I was actually thinking of Galaxy Ace 2. It has a much more impressive piece of hardware. But it does not have ICS out of the box, and Samsung are pretty bad with updates (don't wanna flash a ROM port the first day I buy the phone ). Plus the plastic body has no comparison to the sleek unibody design of the One V, really awesome to hold . Sense 4 is also a convincing argument towards One V.

temple run world of goo runs absolutely without any hitch
as i said bfre it nly doesnt suport high quailty 3d games
evrythng else is just finee buy this phone and join our one v group

i just looked at the specs of the ACE 2, and to be fair those are not bad specs...
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/HTC-One-V,Samsung-GALAXY-Ace-2/phones/6850,6940
you got a hard decision

Lloir said:
i just looked at the specs of the ACE 2, and to be fair those are not bad specs...
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/HTC-One-V,Samsung-GALAXY-Ace-2/phones/6850,6940
you got a hard decision
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remember ace2 lags when playing temple run
don't know about other games
my frnd has just 1game and it lags
idk if any update of the game has stopped it
think twice before you buy ace2
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paarthdesai said:
remember ace2 lags when playing temple run
don't know about other games
my frnd has just 1game and it lags
idk if any update of the game has stopped it
think twice before you buy ace2
Sent from my HTC One V using xda premium
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Surprising to hear that since the Ace2 has a Mali-400 GPU, which is in my opinion gives much better performance than the Adreno 205. It might be asking too much but could you compare notes with your friend on performance and overall usability of the two phones?

android_murphy said:
Surprising to hear that since the Ace2 has a Mali-400 GPU, which is in my opinion gives much better performance than the Adreno 205. It might be asking too much but could you compare notes with your friend on performance and overall usability of the two phones?
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my friend isn't into gaming that much he says it a waste of time to dwnld 5mb fr a game and i don't know if many background applications were running or no
it just lagged when i played mayb coz he just loaded tooo much of apps
atlest 50apss:banghead::thumbdown:
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paarthdesai said:
my friend isn't into gaming that much he says it a waste of time to dwnld 5mb fr a game and i don't know if many background applications were running or no
it just lagged when i played mayb coz he just loaded tooo much of apps
atlest 50apss:banghead::thumbdown:
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Hehe. Thanks for your input anyway . I guess my decision will only be made when i actually step foot into the market .

@paarthdesai By the way where did your friend buy the Galaxy Ace 2 from? As far as i can see online it has not been released in India and have only seen it's official launch in the UK.

android_murphy said:
@paarthdesai By the way where did your friend buy the Galaxy Ace 2 from? As far as i can see online it has not been released in India and have only seen it's official launch in the UK.
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there is a place in mumbai knwn as alfa
u get all the grey market stuff imported from the gilf country's
and u get a full seal pack at a very low cost
however u dnt get warranty
as it is u gonna avoid tht via rooting
dont just say thanks hit thanks if i helped
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Archos 101 G9: 1.5Ghz vs 1Ghz

In the UK at the Carphone Warehouse the 1Ghz model is available for £150. I am wondering if there is any noticeable performance differences between the 101 G9 and the 101 Turbo G9?
Also, will Archos just decide to update the Turbo to Jelly Bean?

mr.fast said:
In the UK at the Carphone Warehouse the 1Ghz model is available for £150. I am wondering if there is any noticeable performance differences between the 101 G9 and the 101 Turbo G9?
Also, will Archos just decide to update the Turbo to Jelly Bean?
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Yes there is a noticeable performance gain. The 1.5ghz model runs more fast and efficient. I recommend that one. If Archos decides to update the G9s to jelly bean, most likely they will update ALL G9s (including 1.0ghz)

mr.fast said:
In the UK at the Carphone Warehouse the 1Ghz model is available for £150. I am wondering if there is any noticeable performance differences between the 101 G9 and the 101 Turbo G9?
Also, will Archos just decide to update the Turbo to Jelly Bean?
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Consider also that the Turbo version available now (new item, not used one) has 1 ghz RAM, while the old 1ghz G9 has only 512 MB RAM. That also is important.
Antutu Benchmark of my Archos G9 250gb Turbo (ICS 4.0.3 rel. 4.7, 1.5 ghz CPU, 1 GB RAM): 7.300, that's noticeable (Galaxy SIII: 11-14.000, Transformer Prime: 9-10.000, Galaxy Note: 7.000). Consider that with the 8/16 gb flash version you can reach a better value (the 250 gb HDD is a little bit slower and it has a negative impact on the benchmark).
I recomend you to buy the new 1.5 ghz cpu - 1 gb ram...

faustito77 said:
Consider also that the Turbo version available now (new item, not used one) has 1 ghz RAM, while the old 1ghz G9 has only 512 MB RAM. That also is important.
Antutu Benchmark of my Archos G9 250gb Turbo (ICS 4.0.3 rel. 4.7, 1.5 ghz CPU, 1 GB RAM): 7.300, that's noticeable (Galaxy SIII: 11-14.000, Transformer Prime: 9-10.000, Galaxy Note: 7.000). Consider that with the 8/16 gb flash version you can reach a better value (the 250 gb HDD is a little bit slower and it has a negative impact on the benchmark).
I recomend you to buy the new 1.5 ghz cpu - 1 gb ram...
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although watch out because there are models that are turbo models but only have 512mb ram. you have to buy one with ics sandwich listed on the box. if it doesnt have that then it is an older model and wont have the 1gb ram.

archos 101 g9 turbo 8gb - some help , please
Archos 101 G9 Turbo ( ICS )
I had a problem with USB HOST because I cannot connect anything to it.
After some unsucess on trying I went to a reformat but speeding up the situation I forget to see that the system can only be manual reinstall using a AOS file that it is on Archos site but I cannot find that file and the only link that I find was broken.
Can someone on charity mode provide me the file and some instrutions to my 2 day´s device regain life ?
Thank you, your help will be much appreciate.
Shano56 said:
Yes there is a noticeable performance gain. The 1.5ghz model runs more fast and efficient. I recommend that one. If Archos decides to update the G9s to jelly bean, most likely they will update ALL G9s (including 1.0ghz)
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1.5Ghz v 1Ghz
Hi Mr.fast
I own a 1.5Ghz / 1GB (G9 Turbo) and I am really impressed, with the performance of this sub £200 slate. No doubting the extra 512MB of RAM on the turbo version, works well with the Texas Instruments OMAP 4460 ES1.1 CPU.
So with the two extra half gigs of power and ram,its quick.
Also you might find the 1Ghz non Turbo version comes with "Honeycomb" and is upgradeable to "ICS".
However I would definitely recommend upgrading the ICS firmware (4.0.1) to (4.0.3) asap, as I found the out the box firmware very buggy, random reboots, WiFi disconnects freezing etc...
I think Archos will offer Jelly Bean, in the first or second Qtr ,2013.
Regards A.Cusack
P.S. I think this is one of the cleanest ICS roms i,ve seen, you even get the option to add the third party apps.

perhaps !

I'm guessing that the turbos are much smoother than my tablet. Even though with serdu pics blue mine is much much better.
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is 2gb ram necessary for a phone?? isnt 1gb ram good enough??

just wondering since lg nexus got 2gb ram and our gnex got 1gb.and most ram remains free..ao wats the point of giving 2gb ram??

Twice the RAM is the point.

future proofing. And as soon as another phone comes out with more ram, you get the crybabies to say "why does our phone only have 1gb of ram if it is newer than phones with 2gb?"

i think 2gb ram is quite unnecessary..it is quite tough to use up 1gb ram as android is very good at multi tasking.

the reason it is good at multitasking is because it is constantly closing apps, this action can be alleviated a bit with extra ram thus creating a more fluid user experience. Also it is a competitive market, this gives google something to brag about. Also remember these are used more as micro-tablets, pushing to 2gb opens doors to better games. It is much better to have unused ram than to have not enough. I personally would rather get a phone and in 6 months when a cool game comes out i know my phone can play it as opposed to struggling.

More RAM also means more internet browser tabs that can be switched around without having to reload them. Overall it results in better user experience.
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Exactly for the reasons listed above. More multitasking at every level

Isn't 48K RAM plenty? My Apple ][+ ran fine with that much back in 1982. Sheesh.

i could also play modern combat 3 on my sgs i9000 lag free.. i think 1gb is enough for me

It's the same evolution as was seen in the PC market from the 90's to present. My first computer only had 640kB memory, then came 2 MB, then 4 MB and so on.
It might not be needed today to have that much RAM, but games and applications get more advanced and to be able to keep a good multitasking environment operational in the future you will need more RAM.
I welcome the change in RAM size to make the phone usable in the future as well.

It's like saying we don't need quad core processor... Sure, you don't need it now, but it's good to have and your phone can handle more advanced programs than duel core.
Also I have hard time keeping my apps that I like in memory, even if I have 1GB, so I'm personally looking forward to 2GB

I won't be happy until 8GB of RAM is the norm. That's the point at which I'll be running a Windows 8 virtual machine on top of Android just to be sardonic.

1gb is probably fine for now but I can see it being useful in a year or so. I think I am going to stick with the galaxy nexus until next years nexus but I am eagerly waiting the nexus 4 hands on reviews.
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Better multitasking and faster switching between apps. Personally I'd rather have as much RAM as possible without causing too much of an increase on the price of the phone. Getting slowdowns from running out of RAM is annoying and except for the price I don't really see any downsides for having more. One can always buy a lower spec phone if they think that 2Gb is too much.
Also as others have said having more RAM makes the phone a bit more future proof. For example my previous phone (HTC Desire) has only 576Mb RAM which certainly doesn't make the experience any more pleasant when using current Jelly Bean ROMs. And it's still "only" 2 years old phone...

Who is Beast ? Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL 3gb ram Vs Zenfone 2 ZE551ML 2gb ram

Hello guys .
I am very confused between these two models. Need Suggestion .
Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL 3GB RAM
Octa core, 1.5 GHz, Cortex A53,
Chipset: Qualcomm MSM8939 Snapdragon 615
GPU : Adreno 405
Plus Point :
3 GB RAM vs 2GB RAM
Expandable Up to 128 GB vs 64GB
Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE551ML 2GB RAM
Quad core, 1.8 GHz, Intel Atom,
Chipset: Intel Atom Z3560
Gpu : PowerVR G6430
Plus Point :
Full HD vs HD
Pixel Density :401 ppi vs 267 ppi
NFC
Give me the right option to buy
Thanks in Advance. :fingers-crossed:

yaju99 said:
Hello guys .
I am very confused between these two models. Need Suggestion .
Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL 3GB RAM
Octa core, 1.5 GHz, Cortex A53,
Chipset: Qualcomm MSM8939 Snapdragon 615
GPU : Adreno 405
Plus Point :
3 GB RAM vs 2GB RAM
Expandable Up to 128 GB vs 64GB
Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE551ML 2GB RAM
Quad core, 1.8 GHz, Intel Atom,
Chipset: Intel Atom Z3560
Gpu : PowerVR G6430
Plus Point :
Full HD vs HD
Pixel Density :401 ppi vs 267 ppi
NFC
Give me the right option to buy
Thanks in Advance. :fingers-crossed:
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ZE551ML.
that 615 is really not that good imo.
both can be expanded to 128GB sdcard. although they marketed the 551ML just upto 64GB.

xgneilx said:
ZE551ML.
that 615 is really not that good imo.
both can be expanded to 128GB sdcard. although they marketed the 551ML just upto 64GB.
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This. The Snapdragon has a much better GPU IMO. PowerVR is a bit crippled, I believe. But that's only if you're gaming heavily or using apps like Snapchat a lot (i have small issues with snapchat on my 551). Other than that I believe the Intel would do better considering the amount of development and support currently available (if it matters to you that is...). And SD cards are supported similarly in both.

thedisturbedone said:
This. The Snapdragon has a much better GPU IMO. PowerVR is a bit crippled, I believe. But that's only if you're gaming heavily or using apps like Snapchat a lot (i have small issues with snapchat on my 551). Other than that I believe the Intel would do better considering the amount of development and support currently available (if it matters to you that is...). And SD cards are supported similarly in both.
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PowerVR G6430 was used in iphone 5s too , and it is nearly twice faster than Adreno 405. Snap615 is ARM type, so it is better compatible with apps than Atom on Z551. Overall, i think Z551 is still a better choice

Thank you guys,
I think Intel Atom is faster, but it takes big part of ram which I saw in Ze551ml (only 300 to 400 my free) and in case of ze550kl have 3gb ram and snapdragon 6 series really knows to handle bettry life but some times it works like snail.
What to do guys!?

Pretty much ALL the reviews of the Zenfones with SD615 that I've seen have mentioned lag/stuttering and worse performance than rival devices on same chipset. On the other hand, the ZE551ML is often praised for its smooth performance. Personlly, there's nothing worse than stuttering performance. I'd take the ZE551ML over the Laser every day of the week!

Thanks @kanagawaben,
You are right Buddy but 3gb ram can't help with that.

Hello guys, I found moto g 3rd generation is good rival this competition. Should I go for that or Ze551ml is pure winner?

tuilalnvinh said:
PowerVR G6430 was used in iphone 5s too , and it is nearly twice faster than Adreno 405. Snap615 is ARM type, so it is better compatible with apps than Atom on Z551. Overall, i think Z551 is still a better choice
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Is that so? Is this out of benchmarks? I personally find the PowerVR to be underpowered / unstable in daily usage.
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yaju99 said:
Thank you guys,
I think Intel Atom is faster, but it takes big part of ram which I saw in Ze551ml (only 300 to 400 my free) and in case of ze550kl have 3gb ram and snapdragon 6 series really knows to handle bettry life but some times it works like snail.
What to do guys!?
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This is not really true. Did you grow up with a windows computer? The way Android / Linux / Mac OS handles RAM is slightly different. Usage of RAM is actually a good thing. Linux runs on mostly cache and more cache means better performance. You should not worry about launching a RAM-hungry app because it would simply release the cache and dedicate all the RAM to that app. There's really no harm in having 400mb. Even when filling your RAM, it doesn't fill 2GB at the snap of a finger! Its a gradual process.. So once that 400MB starts getting filled, more and more cache would be released to accommodate. I don't know if I got the technicalities right.. but my bottom line is don't judge performance by the amount of free RAM.
Just FYI. My 16GB RAM in the MBP is almost always full (only about 1.5 GB remaining). And right now I'm just surfing the net.
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yaju99 said:
Hello guys, I found moto g 3rd generation is good rival this competition. Should I go for that or Ze551ml is pure winner?
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Moto G is quite weak compared to the 551. Moto X would be a better comparison in my opinion.

thedisturbedone said:
Is that so? Is this out of benchmarks? I personally find the PowerVR to be underpowered / unstable in daily usage.
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This is not really true. Did you grow up with a windows computer? The way Android / Linux / Mac OS handles RAM is slightly different. Usage of RAM is actually a good thing. Linux runs on mostly cache and more cache means better performance. You should not worry about launching a RAM-hungry app because it would simply release the cache and dedicate all the RAM to that app. There's really no harm in having 400mb. Even when filling your RAM, it doesn't fill 2GB at the snap of a finger! Its a gradual process.. So once that 400MB starts getting filled, more and more cache would be released to accommodate. I don't know if I got the technicalities right.. but my bottom line is don't judge performance by the amount of free RAM.
Just FYI. My 16GB RAM in the MBP is almost always full (only about 1.5 GB remaining). And right now I'm just surfing the net.
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Moto G is quite weak compared to the 551. Moto X would be a better comparison in my opinion.
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Thanks buddy, I don't know much about how system works.
So according to your knowledge which device is preferable?

yaju99 said:
Thanks buddy, I don't know much about how system works.
So according to your knowledge which device is preferable?
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Between the choices you've given, I'd say 551. But seriously consider the new OnePlus X!

thedisturbedone said:
Between the choices you've given, I'd say 551. But seriously consider the new OnePlus X!
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Thanks, and ya
Obviously buddy, one plus x is handsome killer but it's so difficult to buy it because of invite system.
Do you have idea to get it directly?
Or do you have any invite to share ?

yaju99 said:
Thanks, and ya
Obviously buddy, one plus x is handsome killer but it's so difficult to buy it because of invite system.
Do you have idea to get it directly?
Or do you have any invite to share ?
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Nope. I signed up for the list. Will send you one if I get extra. But they will be having flash sales from next month I believe. I might be worth the wait. Check their website. Given the price point, that phone is a beast.

thedisturbedone said:
Nope. I signed up for the list. Will send you one if I get extra. But they will be having flash sales from next month I believe. I might be worth the wait. Check their website. Given the price point, that phone is a beast.
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I have op2 invite but it's not working with one plus x.
Do you want it?

yaju99 said:
I have op2 invite but it's not working with one plus x.
Do you want it?
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Oh that is very nice of you to offer. But the op2 is a big no no for me. I hate the SD 810.

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Oh that is very nice of you to offer. But the op2 is a big no no for me. I hate the SD 810.
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Whats wrong with sd810 opx has sd801 so is it better ?

yaju99 said:
Whats wrong with sd810 opx has sd801 so is it better ?
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Theoretically, no. 801 is quite an old processor and is more or less on par with the latest gen 600 series... like the 617. But the 810 is a curse. It overheats! And way I use the phone, if it overheats and gets throttled, I'm more likely to smash the phone than wait for it to cool down. There are upgraded versions of the 810 which are supposedly better. But I am not taking chances and as a marketer, I know what actually goes on behind the curtains.
So anyway, 801 is comparatively much underpowered and cheaper than the 810, but at least has no performance / heating / throttling issues and I get my money's worth. The OPX is cheaper than the OP2 but its more bang per buck.

Stop giving wrong information!
There isn't zenfone 2 ze551ml with 2 GB of ram and 1.8 ghz cpu clock speed!
The ZE551ML has 4 GB of ram, 2.3 GHZ cpu clock speed, full hd display and internal memory starting from 32 GB up to 128 GB
The ZE550ML has 2 GB of ram and 1.8 GHZ cpu clock speed, HD display and internal memory of 16 GB!

nothing94 said:
There isn't zenfone 2 ze551ml with 2 GB of ram and 1.8 ghz cpu clock speed!
The ZE551ML has 4 GB of ram, 2.3 GHZ cpu clock speed, full hd display and internal memory starting from 32 GB up to 128 GB
The ZE550ML has 2 GB of ram and 1.8 GHZ cpu clock speed, HD display and internal memory of 16 GB!
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Hmm no actually. There is a 551ml with 2GB and 1.8Ghz... But I wouldn't blame you. There are so many damn variations!
FYI: I believe the 550s are all HD and 551s are all Full HD

thedisturbedone said:
Hmm no actually. There is a 551ml with 2GB and 1.8Ghz... But I wouldn't blame you. There are so many damn variations!
FYI: I believe the 550s are all HD and 551s are all Full HD
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again? The ZE551ML has only 4 GB and Intel® Atom™ Z3580
The ZE550ML has only 2 GB of ram and Intel® Atom™ Quad Core Z3560
So differents models with differents specs. The ZE551ML doesn't exists with 2 GB and Z3560. You should do a short search on asus website before saying wrong things!