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Hi all,
I am puzzled by my problem. I am using Virtuous 2.7 + King's BFS kernel #4.
My phone battery will drop quickly from 100% to 92% right after unplugged from the power cord. By quickly, I meant I did not use the phone, killed all tasks, and battery will drop to 92% literally in minutes.
Bump charging, wiping battery stats, wiping dalvik cache, killing all tasks are not helping at all. I don't have SetCPU, but someone in the forum mentioned they have SetCPU, and it is not helping either.
Is anyone having this problem? Does anyone have any idea on how to solve this?
Please help.
Thank you!!!
chillmeow said:
Hi all,
I am puzzled by my problem. I am using Virtuous 2.7 + King's BFS kernel #4.
My phone battery will drop quickly from 100% to 92% right after unplugged from the power cord. By quickly, I meant I did not use the phone, killed all tasks, and battery will drop to 92% literally in minutes.
Bump charging, wiping battery stats, wiping dalvik cache, killing all tasks are not helping at all. I don't have SetCPU, but someone in the forum mentioned they have SetCPU, and it is not helping either.
Is anyone having this problem? Does anyone have any idea on how to solve this?
Please help.
Thank you!!!
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I spoke to RMK as well as others about this in IRC, doesn't look like anything we can do, deep in the HTC code I guess.
I have the same issue using SkyRaider 3.1. Battery is 100% then after 5-10 minutes drops down to low 90s. It bothered me at first but after several days of moderate to heavy use and still having almost 50% battery left at the end of the day, I just figured it was some kind of bug when reading the battery level at the beginning. How is your battery life overall? If it's like mine, then i wouldn't worry too much about it as long as it's lasting longer. I'm using the 1750mAh battery from Sedio.
I was having the exact same problems until I went back to stock everything and bump charged. Took the OTA for 2.2, rooted, custom recovery, bump charged, wiped stats and cache and now I'm good to go. I usually dont think crap like this works but it made a huge difference in battery life and stopped the 100-90% problems I was having.
KB
I found this on EVO forum, but I don't know how his solution works. I personally don't think this would be the solution.
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704272
I am using the 1500 mAh battery.
My battery life is uptime around 24 hours and awake time around 6-9 hours depending on usage.
so you're not having the issue anymore, after going back to stock (non rooted) with the official OTA 2.2?
KB Smoka said:
I was having the exact same problems until I went back to stock everything and bump charged. Took the OTA for 2.2, rooted, custom recovery, bump charged, wiped stats and cache and now I'm good to go. I usually dont think crap like this works but it made a huge difference in battery life and stopped the 100-90% problems I was having.
KB
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KB Smoka, so you don't have this problem anymore?
Do you think format the phone and wipe all the data will help?
Have anyone tried formating the phone?
I've searched and found that the cause is the phone saying the battery is charged fully when its not basically so to fix this after it goes to 100% while the phone is one then u should turn it off and let it charge fully from there
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superchilpil said:
I've searched and found that the cause is the phone saying the battery is charged fully when its not basically so to fix this after it goes to 100% while the phone is one then u should turn it off and let it charge fully from there
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I did bump charge this phone, but it still drops like crazy.
I'll try this out tonight.
Thanks!
Is this a once time fix thing or do you have to do it every time you charge?
bump charging 4 or 5 times in a row (basically bump as many times as you need to to get it to where the light turns green withing a minute of 2 or plugging it in again) and then wiping battery stats solved this for me... kinda.. i still have to bump twice, but after that it'll stay at 100 for a good while and work it's way down normally, no jumping 10% down..
superchilpil said:
I've searched and found that the cause is the phone saying the battery is charged fully when its not basically so to fix this after it goes to 100% while the phone is one then u should turn it off and let it charge fully from there
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
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That is bump charging. Something htc is unable or unwilling to fix.
The issue has been known for a while and you have to 'bump charge' every time to avoid the 5-10% drop.
Here's their response about fixing the "bump charge".
"Dear **********,
I understand you would like to know if an update has be released to help get a full charge on your battery without having to bump charge it. At this time we have no information about any updates being released to help resolve this issue on your device. If an update is released for your device you will receive a notification on your device that an update is available.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number ************.
Sincerely,
Victor
HTC"
melophat said:
bump charging 4 or 5 times in a row (basically bump as many times as you need to to get it to where the light turns green withing a minute of 2 or plugging it in again) and then wiping battery stats solved this for me... kinda.. i still have to bump twice, but after that it'll stay at 100 for a good while and work it's way down normally, no jumping 10% down..
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Do you bump charge every single time you charge right now? It's pain in the butt if I have to bump charge everyday.
Yup every day. 4 or 5 times is way overkill though. Just charge phone until green, turn off (don't need to unplug), wait until it turns green then do the plug/unplug one more time.
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so you're not having the issue anymore, after going back to stock (non rooted) with the official OTA 2.2?
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Went to stock (official OTA), rooted, custom recovery, bump charged, reset stats and cache and I'm good now.
I charged it to "full" while it was powered on. Once the light turned green I turned the phone off, charged again until the light turned green. Took about 25 minutes. Powered up in recovery wiped battery and cache and now I'm good. The key is after doing all this you have to let the phone completely die.
If you're wiping your battery stats after a bump charge, you will have this problem every time you don't bump charge.
If you wipe your battery stats after it goes green without a bump charge, you won't have this problem.
This is because the software thinks the bump charged battery levels equal 100% charge. A bump charge adds approximately 10 percent of charge.
Formatting your phone or any software changes won't actually do anything other than wipe your battery stats while your phone is not at bump charge levels.
vantagejuan said:
If you're wiping your battery stats after a bump charge, you will have this problem every time you don't bump charge.
If you wipe your battery stats after it goes green without a bump charge, you won't have this problem.
This is because the software thinks the bump charged battery levels equal 100% charge. A bump charge adds approximately 10 percent of charge.
Formatting your phone or any software changes won't actually do anything other than wipe your battery stats while your phone is not at bump charge levels.
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I'll try this instead! I don't want to bump charge everyday! It's too troublesome.
chillmeow said:
Hi all,
I am puzzled by my problem. I am using Virtuous 2.7 + King's BFS kernel #4.
My phone battery will drop quickly from 100% to 92% right after unplugged from the power cord. By quickly, I meant I did not use the phone, killed all tasks, and battery will drop to 92% literally in minutes.
Bump charging, wiping battery stats, wiping dalvik cache, killing all tasks are not helping at all. I don't have SetCPU, but someone in the forum mentioned they have SetCPU, and it is not helping either.
Is anyone having this problem? Does anyone have any idea on how to solve this?
Please help.
Thank you!!!
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The reason this happens is because the battery gets charged fully to 100%, and then is allowed to slowly drain back to 90% (or so) before it's charged back to 100% again. This is how Lithium batteries are charged.
Try this: charge the battery to 100%, and immediately disconnect it after it's full. Notice how the battery doesn't drop to the low 90's immediately.
The reason "bump charging" appears to work is because there is no drain on the battery, since the phone is off. It goes to 100% and stops.
There's nothing we can do code-wise to fix this; it's just how the battery technology works. Keeping it fully charged at 100% while on would damage the charging capacity of our phones.
Btw.. wrong forum.
Solutions in search of a problem
Let me preface this by saying that I’m not an electrical engineer, or any sort of expert on phone hardware, but I think a couple issues are being confused. I’ve seen many posts about this battery “problem” here and elsewhere and an important point is being missed. People are confusing what the battery is actually doing with what the phone SAYS the battery is doing. They are NOT the same thing. The battery is a physical device and it will do what it’s going to do.
Battery life is a function of battery quality, initial state of charge, and demand. If you want the battery to last longer, look at ways of reducing demand. What applications are in use? How long is the screen on? What brightness level? Overclocking and undervolting settings? All these will affect ACTUAL battery life.
At lot of the “solutions” discussed have nothing to do with conserving energy use, but have everything to do with messing with how the phone REPORTS the state of charge. A good example is the issue of the initial drop reported by many users during the first few minutes after unplugging the charger. I see this on my own phone. If the phone is “taught” that 100% charge is when it is totally crammed with juice and plugged in as well, it’s not surprising that there is a good bit of voltage drop (+/- 10%?) right after unplugging. Does this mean there is a problem? NO! It’s just the battery doing what batteries do. A lot of the suggestions about wiping battery stats and such have nothing to do with saving energy. They are ways of fiddling with how the phone REPORTS its condition under various circumstances.
My advice: if you are happy with how your battery lasts, over the course of a day or so, then learn to relax, crack open a cold brew, and revel in just what a great phone the Incredible is. If your battery isn’t lasting as long as you need it to, then look at ways to save power or get a larger capacity battery. Tweaking the battery meter function is simply a feel-good exercise and won’t get you any actual improved performance. END OF RANT.
I can confirm that my gf's phone and my good buddies phone(both were never rooted) have never had a problem with the phone charging up slow first off(both phones charge about 1% per minute). And since they accepted the OTA, have not had the problem of charging to 100% and quickly jumping down to 90%. For instance, the other day my buddy charged his phone while on to 100%, played a game for about 2 minutes and closed it, battery was at 99%. Now I have tried and continually try every possible solution to my battery dying quick and charging slow, but am realizing that this must just be the cost of customizing my phone to my liking. And at least for the moment, a stock 2.2 DINC is just not an option for me.
larsrya8 said:
The reason this happens is because the battery gets charged fully to 100%, and then is allowed to slowly drain back to 90% (or so) before it's charged back to 100% again. This is how Lithium batteries are charged.
Try this: charge the battery to 100%, and immediately disconnect it after it's full. Notice how the battery doesn't drop to the low 90's immediately.
The reason "bump charging" appears to work is because there is no drain on the battery, since the phone is off. It goes to 100% and stops.
There's nothing we can do code-wise to fix this; it's just how the battery technology works. Keeping it fully charged at 100% while on would damage the charging capacity of our phones.
Btw.. wrong forum.
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Sorry that I posted in the wrong forum. I thought this is related to the kernel or ROM I am using (Which is development right????).
Not to question your knowledge about the "battery technology", but why is it only happening to certain people? Nowadays most device are using Li-ion battery, why this phenomenon do not occur to all devices?
I am used to having my phone charge to 100% over night, and then when I unplug it it goes immediately to 99% This morning I had the blue LED notification to let me know I had a full charge. But when i took it off it said 60%, my first impression was whoa thats not right.
tbh im only running stock FF13 not even rooted.
Where is that 40% difference coming from?
thnx
xjs1200x said:
I am used to having my phone charge to 100% over night, and then when I unplug it it goes immediately to 99% This morning I had the blue LED notification to let me know I had a full charge. But when i took it off it said 60%, my first impression was whoa thats not right.
tbh im only running stock FF13 not even rooted.
Where is that 40% difference coming from?
thnx
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maybe bad battery. is it bulged?
I dont think so, its a extended life battery. I was more looking to see if anybody else had an issue similar.
for the past week i've been having battery issues where the charging LED lights up, but the phone does NOT charge. or the phone says charging, then the light turns blue saying 100% but as soon as i remove the plug, the % drops to whatever the battery truely is at.
even when I go into about phone>battery, the time spent charging does not show that it has been charging. Also better battery stats does not seem to even show any processes being run...as if theres no battery stats to read from. also Gsam battery wont even calculate the average time left
my usb port works fine. i've used all different usb cables/chargers. i've wiped battery stats numerous times. ive done clean installs of ics and even tried going back to gb roms. issue reappears on BOTH oem batteries i have.
That's just one of those pesky ICS bugs that affects some phones and not others. I ran one Epic on the official ICS update for 4days and went back to gb before any bugs occurred, so I guess I was lucky not to have any aftereffects. It may clear with a custom Rom , you need to research the threads.
Good luck.
Pp.
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I know there have been a few posts regarding this, but mine is not exactly the same.
The battery life indicator is ALWAYS ON and colored green, even after hours of use, light is still on with battery at 100% and indicating that it's being charged. This happened during the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy, I constantly pulled battery in and out to conserve battery, temperature kept going up and down. During sleep, it is frozen solid, after a few use, its hot, happened maybe over 15 times.
After my power came back on, I did everything people suggested in the other post, I discharged my phone from 0, then charged to 100, but it was a TEMPORARY fix. After it was charged to 100, the battery light indicator is stuck on green with charging indicator stuck on as well.
Phone is not rooted, no custom rom, nothing modified. Next, I tried factory resetting and wiping data, gave myself root, changed to a custom rom, problem is still there! I tried with both my Seidio's 3500mah battery and 1500mah battery, but I did the battery pulling on both during the blackout caused by Hurricane Sandy.
So... Any suggestions..?
Maxman190 said:
I know there have been a few posts regarding this, but mine is not exactly the same.
The battery life indicator is ALWAYS ON and colored green, even after hours of use, light is still on with battery at 100% and indicating that it's being charged. This happened during the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy, I constantly pulled battery in and out to conserve battery, temperature kept going up and down. During sleep, it is frozen solid, after a few use, its hot, happened maybe over 15 times.
After my power came back on, I did everything people suggested in the other post, I discharged my phone from 0, then charged to 100, but it was a TEMPORARY fix. After it was charged to 100, the battery light indicator is stuck on green with charging indicator stuck on as well.
Phone is not rooted, no custom rom, nothing modified. Next, I tried factory resetting and wiping data, gave myself root, changed to a custom rom, problem is still there! I tried with both my Seidio's 3500mah battery and 1500mah battery, but I did the battery pulling on both during the blackout caused by Hurricane Sandy.
So... Any suggestions..?
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Motherboard maybe fried if its reading as overcharged. I'm surprised it would still work if that's the case..
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death-by-soap said:
Motherboard maybe fried if its reading as overcharged. I'm surprised it would still work if that's the case..
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Is there a way to check if that's true? Also, when the battery notification light is stuck on, it doesn't connect to my PC via usb, my PC can't detect it, and my phone gave no pop up or show a usb icon. I can only connect to PC via bootloader/recovery.
Unfortunately I can't provide any suggestions about correcting your problem. (Besides just getting a new Evo, sucks but it sounds like your maybe genuinely dangerous.)
Airplane mode enabled on my Evo usually lasts a few days on a full charge.
How many days did you get off yours by doing what you did?
9h0s7 said:
Unfortunately I can't provide any suggestions about correcting your problem. (Besides just getting a new Evo, sucks but it sounds like your maybe genuinely dangerous.)
Airplane mode enabled on my Evo usually lasts a few days on a full charge.
How many days did you get off yours by doing what you did?
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Before rooting, my battery dropped insanely quick. I didn't use airplane mode to conserve energy, I just shut it off via power button. I turned it off for one class approx. 75 minutes, after class I turned it on, 15% of the battery went away.
After rooting, I was able to disable all the useless sprint apps eating at my battery, so now, it's lasting maybe 3x longer than it did before.
Hi Guys,
Recently my USB charging port stopped working. I tried to clean the area and move the pin back up but nothing worked. I ordered 2 spare battery's and an external battery charger. At that point, I was getting 2-3 hours of battery life. Once I did a factory reset on my phone, I began to receive 4-5 hours of battery life, which was okay since I have 3 batteries. I've also ordered the part to fix the USB port.
My guess is that fixing the USB port won't solve the battery usage problem right? I've noticed that if I turn off my phone at 20% battery and turn it back in the morning, the phone is dead, as in battery is being used even when the phone is turned off, which is weird.
Is there any fix to this issue? What would be causing such battery depletion?
Thanks for the help!
bomberman27 said:
Hi Guys,
Recently my USB charging port stopped working. I tried to clean the area and move the pin back up but nothing worked. I ordered 2 spare battery's and an external battery charger. At that point, I was getting 2-3 hours of battery life. Once I did a factory reset on my phone, I began to receive 4-5 hours of battery life, which was okay since I have 3 batteries. I've also ordered the part to fix the USB port.
My guess is that fixing the USB port won't solve the battery usage problem right? I've noticed that if I turn off my phone at 20% battery and turn it back in the morning, the phone is dead, as in battery is being used even when the phone is turned off, which is weird.
Is there any fix to this issue? What would be causing such battery depletion?
Thanks for the help!
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how long has this been happening? new issue or recent.
try DLing disable service from play store. allows you to go into each app and turn things off thats running in background.
also, wakelock detector, lets you know whats draining your bat
If device is discharging quickly even when turned off, factory resets, kernels or other software tricks probably can't help. Replacing USB port however sounds useful. It may be damaged in a way that drains battery.
themirrorstruth said:
how long has this been happening? new issue or recent.
try DLing disable service from play store. allows you to go into each app and turn things off thats running in background.
also, wakelock detector, lets you know whats draining your bat
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its been going on for a month now. The battery life has slowly gone down over the past few months but I don't exactly know when it became so drastic. What's bothering me though is that when I did a full factory reset and nothing was running on my phone, not even google apps only wifi and regular cellular data, I got ~4.5 hours. How does that happen on a new battery? That must be a hardware issue right?
My Gnexi said:
If device is discharging quickly even when turned off, factory resets, kernels or other software tricks probably can't help. Replacing USB port however sounds useful. It may be damaged in a way that drains battery.
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Ah okay, so even if I'm not using the USB port currently, it could be linked to the battery drainage problem?
My M8 could not be fully charge with any power brick.
It charge my phone before I go to bed and when I woke up in the morning the battery was 52% and the charging rate is very very very slow.
My portable Battery, Sony F2L (Out 2A) which is a very quick charger, is barely supply enough power to maintain my M8's battery but not charging it.
At first I thought it was the cable, but after I change several power bricks and cables. (Power brick: Sony 2.1A, Stock HTC, Asus, LG, UE 2.1A and Cables : BlackBerry and Sony)
The problems still persist. And today I saw the power gauge dropped, while I plugged-in with Sony Power Brick.
The only way I could make it to 100% is to switch SetCPU's governor to "Power Save" mode. Normally I use "On demand" since I got the phone and I never have a problem like this before.
Please help me on this.
M8 Thai Model already RUU convert to GPE. Running GPE stock 5.1 and rooted.
Here is my battery stats. As you can see the battery slowly drop while I was charging.
I have tried battery calibration and the problem remains.
It seem after i sleep my phone for a while the signal will be drop and drain the battery. I have no idea why this is happening
Please anyone help me on this.
You have an app or something keeping your phone awake all the time.
That line for Awake should not be solid green like that. Your phone is never going to sleep.
naja_return said:
I have tried battery calibration and the problem remains.
It seem after i sleep my phone for a while the signal will be drop and drain the battery. I have no idea why this is happening
Please anyone help me on this.
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Also searching....this seems to be a very complicated problem. You are not the only one with this issue, and it has symptoms of both hardware and software fault. Which makes it incredibly complicated to deal with.
I am bringing this thread back to life because I started having the same problem and am looking for an answer.
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You have an app or something keeping your phone awake all the time.
That line for Awake should not be solid green like that. Your phone is never going to sleep.
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Not at all....I managed to greenify or even disable any app that was wakelocking the device.
But it seems the system itself is causing the battery drain. That's if the battery drain isn't caused by hardware, since I am having very weird symptoms....such as loosing battery while phone is powered off connected to the charger.