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Just wondering if anybody has tried this kernel yet? Found it over on AndroidMobileJunkie.com (Followed a link in somebody's sig here n XDA that said 1.28Ghz so naturally I was curious lol) Anyways, here's the link for the post over on AMJ. http://forum.androidmobilejunkie.com/threads/kernel-ziggy471-droid-incredible-22-oct.11/
yea ziggy's kernel. It's been in discussion in both of the Desire rom port threads. 1.28 is very rough on the processor though, and mostly unstable for a lot of people's phones (mine included), even ziggy admits it's a risky business, but he has proven it is possible.
I am so tempted to try this, but I'm afraid to fry my phone. My go big or go home mentality may make me give in. Wish there was someone who posted on the thread link
I ran it. No problems a 1.28 but really didn't use it long. Here's my Quadrant post in the Desire Z port thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8775977&postcount=168
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I'd imagine that clocking the processor that high wouldn't make much difference than say, 1.19GHz.
In fact, in plenty of ROMs I've tried, anything clocking over 1152mhz actually gives me a decrease in my quadrant scores. Not to say its not a stability issue - I'd assume that most Snapdragons actually clock higher than 998mhz, but then are reduced because that's baseline performance, anything less than 998mhz would get kicked.
I've never had a ROM crash, even running at 1.19GHz, but didn't notice any performance gains, plus, unless you just happen to get a chip that is capable of 1.28GHz no problem, it's probably near bottle-neck anyway.
And Quadrant has several variables way outside of clock speed that can pull 1800's, including just your flavor ROM.
Bottom Line: It's not worth frying your phone just for a barely-existent performance gain. If you happen to have a processor that is incapable of stability at 1.28GHz, you might fry out some transistors, then get stuck with something that freezes if you clock it over 700, let alone the 998 stock.
For me personally 1.28 is no improvement over 1.152. In fact, it gives me worse benchmarks.
sorry for repost
I gave this kernel a try and I actually prefer the newest HTC 2.6.32.17 charging time has significantly decreased battery life has increased and the performance is really responsive and smooth. My quadrant scores are nothing impressive pretty average but I would rather all of the above than a high quadrant.
I tried this kernal and my camera stopped working...
HeyItsLou said:
I gave this kernel a try and I actually prefer the newest HTC 2.6.32.17 charging time has significantly decreased battery life has increased and the performance is really responsive and smooth. My quadrant scores are nothing impressive pretty average but I would rather all of the above than a high quadrant.
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Lou hit the nail on the head. I love the .17 kernel. Im using the new guy with great performance, battery life, charging, and neat transitions. its like a new phone.
I'm using this with a vanilla froyo ROM and my battery life is amazing. Haven't noticed any freezing or any program not working.
Wow!
Thanks for all the replies guys, I think for now I'm gonna stick with the stock kernel also, I just remember back when I used to run KxK's kernels seeing great benchmarks and battery life I was always wondering if there were any faster out there lol
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Thanks for all the replies guys, I think for now I'm gonna stick with the stock kernel also, I just remember back when I used to run KxK's kernels seeing great benchmarks and battery life I was always wondering if there were any faster out there lol
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There's always faster, the question is will they work. lol
When I'm running the newer Sense ports, HD or Z, I can only run 1.113, no matter how much or little voltage I give it. When I'm running an older one, I can go all the way up.
As for stability at 1.28G, I need to work on the voltage more, to find the sweet spot, I just did it 'cause Jugs said one of his Bravo buds had it working, so I had to try.
I'll keep playing with it if people are still interested, otherwise, I'll just keep at the lower speeds.
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Just loaded up your AOSP on Ruby 1.1.4. Running great, 1600 in Quad at 1ghz. Everything seems really smooth. Are the voltages undervolted at 1ghz? Maybe you could start your own thread?
Nevermind...found it!
ziggy471 said:
There's always faster, the question is will they work. lol
When I'm running the newer Sense ports, HD or Z, I can only run 1.113, no matter how much or little voltage I give it. When I'm running an older one, I can go all the way up.
As for stability at 1.28G, I need to work on the voltage more, to find the sweet spot, I just did it 'cause Jugs said one of his Bravo buds had it working, so I had to try.
I'll keep playing with it if people are still interested, otherwise, I'll just keep at the lower speeds.
Z
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By the way, my post wasn't meant to disrespect your efforts to 1.28GHz, I'm just giving fair warning that someone could possibly burn out their phone if they jack it up all the way. When I'm ready for an upgrade, I'll probably put this thing to the max.
Thanks Ziggy
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Just loaded up your AOSP on Ruby 1.1.4. Running great, 1600 in Quad at 1ghz. Everything seems really smooth. Are the voltages undervolted at 1ghz? Maybe you could start your own thread?
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What AOSP kernel??? I only see one kernel, and it references skyraider, which leads me to believe it is a sense kernel
edit: I am dumb. It is a different thread on the same site as listed above
http://forum.androidmobilejunkie.com/threads/kernel-ziggy471-droid-incredible-aosp-23-oct.24/
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By the way, my post wasn't meant to disrespect your efforts to 1.28GHz, I'm just giving fair warning that someone could possibly burn out their phone if they jack it up all the way. When I'm ready for an upgrade, I'll probably put this thing to the max.
Thanks Ziggy
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I didn't take it as such, and I agree with you fully. I prefer somewhere between 1.113 and 1.15. That's the reason I included the init script to set the max at 1.113, which I find very stable and fast, hell I'd say 1865 quad with ID's Z port isn't too shabby at 1.13.
I should be able to get 1.28 more stable with playing with the voltages, it's just that takes time, and I wasted too much this morning doing both AOSP INC and Evo kernels, so I'm worn out for awhile on kernels. I still need to fix the Evo for puertoblack, since it appears I left the debug port out, so no adb for it. lol
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Hi!
First of all, I have been reading around and I did not find exactly what I want to know.
Yesterday I managed to root my desire and flash the CM7 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957344). Today I've added a custom kernel, "vork" 720p (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782875&highlight=vork).
My quadrant score is still low (around 1100), even though the phone behaves much better than the stock.
I have 2 questions:
1. What can I do to make it perform even better? (i have a friend with a desire hd who just flashed a sense rom, without any added stuff and scores over 2200).
2. should i install a new "radio"? My gsm signal is much stronger than before as it is.
3. Since this is my first time, what do you think of my choices with the ROM and Kernel? I chose them because they were popular and i assumed they are well tested and function well.
Thank you for your time.
Desire HD has better processor and GPU I believe hence bigger difference. Your score is good for Desire. I got around that overclocked on LeeDroid GB ROM.
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why do you even care bout the quadrant score ? :X
if you really feel excited bout high numbers having nothing to do with ur phone performance, go with data2ext roms, quadrant gives them 3000+ points, but still they perform worse than, for example, LeeDroid.
then again, new GingerBread Sense 2.1 roms have low quadrant scores, but they are really really fast.
I dont really care about quadrant, but it seems like a valid tool for measuring performance. At least it seems that everyone is judging by that. Quite frankly the phone works very well, i am just out of ideas to make it even better. And if the scores are meaningless why do people use it?
Its probably one of those my d...ck is bigger than yours things. Anyway I used data to SD and I also had high scores but overall experience was very laggy and jerky
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Quadrant scores are mesaurable only when you launch them on stock, unrooted roms. then it can give you and idea on how this phone with this software will perform.
after rooting, some hacks or scripts make quadrant scores not real
So this means my phone is fine as it is? There is nothing more I can do to enhance it?
you can overclock it, it should all be said in your ROMs topic.
like "OC up to 1200Mhz" means you should be able to set processor speed to 1200mhz with SetCpu. it all depends on kernel i think
Ok, thanks everyone for your input! If there are any more suggestions, I dont mind.
Hi, just wondering has anyone tried this yet on a DHD (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276)? Seems like a sensible idea but i am no expert.
Yes, it works but it just looks like another low level memory killer tweak.
It's slightly faster with multi tasking imo
Sent out of my Free Candy Van.
bzzzt... Wrong...
Its more than just a memory tweak. I tried it yesterday and haven't noticed any difference but my phone is fast enough. I probably did something wrong.
This is a brilliant idea for androids with slower processors and low ram but unless you are on speed and want your phone to keep up with you, not a must have. =P
Still brilliant work from the dev. Respect.
tried on desire, i used option 2 (balanced 1 i think)
it does seem to speed things up a little. switching between apps seems a little more fluid.
what are your settings on DHD?
Don't you have more than 700mb of ram?
Use the MegaRAM 2 Option
With all these tweaks, ROMS, and kernels out there to completely customize your Evo or whatever phone you have. My question is, how to make sure to you don't over do it.
I know that I will look at signatures and see what posters have done to their evos...and try some of those things myself. You can see my signature to see what I've done too.
I am a noob, but I have almost graduated to the next level (whatever that may be). There might be several people like myself who sees all these tweaks and tweaks out themselves in excitement over what you can do to your new toy.
I get the feeling that some tweaks (kernels, CPU governors, ROMS) can often have functions that can overlap and actually worsen performance rather then improve.
As a request to all those who have conquered the realm of the Evo and aid us lowly lifeforms in modding our phones, can you help us figure out what is just right, not enough, or too much? Besides, too much of a good thing can be bad...
We can start off with my Evo. Been using Linpack as a reference for performance, and have averaged 36.5 MFLOPS on single thread. How does this stack up?
Interesting, and i am by no means an expert, but here some things I have found out.
Don't use Collins ph battery tweak and Setcpu together. Your CPU will peg and kill your battery life.
Setcpu with a Screenoff profile is unnecessary if you have the kernel governor set to smartass. Smartass sets the cpu to 384 with the screenoff anyway.
Don't let your daughter take your EVO in the tub. That limits performance as well.
Add in that benchmark apps, like Linpack, are worthless.
You couldn't hit "too much". Believe me, there are people who flash things daily. Some several times a day. And think about how many mod flashes a dev does to his phone?
I meant running at once...
HipKat said:
Add in that benchmark apps, like Linpack, are worthless.
You couldn't hit "too much". Believe me, there are people who flash things daily. Some several times a day. And think about how many mod flashes a dev does to his phone?
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Too many things running at once. I figure these phones can handle a lot given the roms people float between...
And you have to remember that all phones are different and that just because I can do something that works great on my phone doesn't mean it will do anything for yours. Or make it worse... Just sayin'
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This question is also hard to answer because peoples taste varies so much.
A good example is myself, I like Sense, but I could care less if it is version 1, 2, or 3, I just want it to work good with no problems. I have never seen a theme that I liked better than stock with just a nice photo as a background. In fact, I could really care less what it looks like as long as everything works well when I want to use it. On the other hand, I have almost no use for any of the bloat apps that came with the phone. I remove almost all of them, Including Facebook, the stock browser, the calender and all Sprint specific apps. But I do have a lot of apps on my phone, about 141 user apps, last time I checked for a total of 264 total apps, including the system apps I have left.
I run Fresh 4.2 rom, that I have modified by removing the aforementioned Sprint bloat and built in apps that I don't want or need. I like Flipz rom's the best because they are stable, reliable, and not updated every day, because no update is needed. Plus he removes the CIQ, which runs all the time in the background. I run a kernel that gives me the best performance and responsiveness, with no-sbc and features like HDMI mirroring and 5-point multi-touch, but other than that pretty much stock (trying out various kernels now so can't say which one I will end up going with). The only other mods I have done is I have changed the splash screen, because the white one would wake up my wife when I would boot my phone in bed at night. I also made a battery indicator mod that reads percentage and is easier to see. And I am running the V6 script to eliminate the Sense reloads when exiting apps.
Works for me, but I am sure a lot of guys/girls wouldn't like it at all. So, in the end, it really doesn't matter what I am running, unless someone else has the same tastes as me. And isn't that really the point?
I think I do a lot for my phone. But not too much. Everything in my sig + setcpu, chainfire 3d, juice defender etc
Deck's + SZ + SuperCharger script + ViperMod script.
Journeyman83 said:
As a request to all those who have conquered the realm of the Evo and aid us lowly lifeforms in modding our phones, can you help us figure out what is just right, not enough, or too much? Besides, too much of a good thing can be bad...
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How much becomes too much the day you bork your phone when you tweaked something you shouldn't have tweaked, and then turn to the forums for help, only to get an attitude at the people who are trying to help you fix your own f'up. That is when it becomes too much.
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I run a kernel that gives me the best performance and responsiveness, with no-sbc and features like HDMI mirroring and 5-point multi-touch, but other than that pretty much stock ...
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Just curious about which kernel you're referring to here ... thanks.
Nothing is to much as long as you are comfortable with the mods. Nand restore if you mess something up. If you need any help pm me ill help ya.
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Hello all.
I'm trying to get the most of my defy.
Currently using cyanogenmod 7, over clocked to 1.2ghz.
I have now started using the v6 supercharger script as hoping its not placebo but seems to be working a lot better. Used option 9.
Does anyone else use the v6 script and what option did you go for?
Also do you have any other tweeks for making the defy smoother or faster?
Have uploaded a screenshot of my benchmark.
V6 original thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
I'm using the latest V6 RC 3.2, with option 6 (ledded) (now I'm testing option 7), and option 13 (bulitproof launcher). I installed nitro lag nullifier. I also use kak script, and 3G turbocharge script. Overall it has big improvement, my defy is much faster and more responsive. I have only a little lag in scrolling the launcher when I use live wallpaper, btw I'm using blur launcher, and MS2Ginger 2.1 rom, overclocked to 1.2 Ghz. My scores are around 2700 - 2800.
Thanks a few things to look up.
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I'm just using CM7 with ADW launcher, the score varies from 2500 to 2940...after 4 times of benching.
Also OCed to 1.2ghz
What is V6?
nameite said:
I'm just using CM7 with ADW launcher, the score varies from 2500 to 2940...after 4 times of benching.
Also OCed to 1.2ghz
What is V6?
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copied from the v6 post
What's it do?
It makes your phone FAST... super snappy with better multitasking!
It rearranges and fixes the OOM Groupings and Priorites and lowmemorykiller values.
So basically, it's a COMPLETE MEMORY MANAGEMENT FIX!
It's the ONLY one of it's kind
NO LAUNCHER REDRAWS, faster than ever, multitasking is better... why?
Because it works with the lowmemorykiller and letting it work the way it's meant to work.
Also, because of the rearrangement, it works the same on all roms!
The problem with using minfree tweakers like AMM or AKMO is that it doesn't work the same on all roms.
Secondary apps may be in slot 3 on some roms but in slot 5 in others!
That's why you hear people comment "I tried AKMO but it didn't do anything..."
Most likely it didn't do anything because the apps weren't sitting where they were expected to be.
So fasten your seat belts and enjoy the ride!
Super Charge... Makes it impossible to kill other apps & dats the downfall
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Try also thunderbolt's script... much better than super charger v6 to me & doesn't interfere with cm7 killing app function, of long press on back button
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Anyone still using this script or the thunderbolt script on Cm.7.1.0-11-defy?
I'm trying to figure out if people see a noticeable improvement before taking the leap myself. Better synthetic scores don't really matter to me.
I may be interested too, what are the downsides of these, and is there a way of undoing it?
Sent from my 1Ghz CM7 + CM9 Defy
crakeron said:
I may be interested too, what are the downsides of these, and is there a way of undoing it?
Sent from my 1Ghz CM7 + CM9 Defy
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YEs, there is an option on the V6 to Undo the changes.
plz tell me how to install
plz tell me how to install
zorofroozo said:
Anyone still using this script or the thunderbolt script on Cm.7.1.0-11-defy?
I'm trying to figure out if people see a noticeable improvement before taking the leap myself. Better synthetic scores don't really matter to me.
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I didn't use it for a long time. But used it on a recent nightly and forgot how much it changed the phone.
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I've been using it to, and the phone does feel smoother. The nitro lagg nullier makes the difference on my defy.
(I used it in conjunction with the multitasking setting if i'm not mistaken)
It's buttery smooth on Option 6 - "Balanced."
Minimal modded to my defy seeing it was my everyday phone. Now that I have the defy+ I'm going hands in the the defy been reading and reading now I would like input from other users.
So.....
What modes are best for the defy?
Make it faster, responsive with no lags or glitches.
I'm on cm 7.2 froyo kernel thinking bout upgrading to gb kernel. Any suggestions?
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Minimal modded to my defy seeing it was my everyday phone. Now that I have the defy+ I'm going hands in the the defy been reading and reading now I would like input from other users.
So.....
What modes are best for the defy?
Make it faster, responsive with no lags or glitches.
I'm on cm 7.2 froyo kernel thinking bout upgrading to gb kernel. Any suggestions?
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Well I will always suggest supercharger script and also kak script as it gives me great boost and reduces lag a lot.
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As i have been chasing the holy grail in my Defy+ for the last weeks, i have been thru some settings and my own observation around the SuperCharger is that it totally screwed up atleast my already overclocked Defy+. I was running scores around 2400-2500 in Quadrant and after installing SC it really felt slow and a new test in Quadrant really proved what i have been feeling, the score was around 1800. Notice then that my first setting in SC was a fullblown 1000bhp setting (dont remember what the highest number is), so i thought i had shot myself in the foot and overloaded things, tuned it down to a 512bhp settings (somewhere in the middle) and did a new test, still was the same score in Quadrant. After some anger management i uninstalled it and ran a new Quadrant test, this time i scored 2200. I dont know if i managed to screw anything up in SC but thats my 2 cents of an observation.
Stock MIUI straight out of the archive gave me 26000 - 25000 on quadrant...
after installing all of my guff it naturally got lower scores, but - speed doesn't necessarily equate to smoothness...
I then went to linpack.apk which allows you to compare your scores against, well - your scores...
As I turned up the OC the ph got quicker - but not smoother (if you get my drift)...
So, on my personalized MIUI I pasted in Juwe11's ram script & Samsungs Loopysmoothness script... they helped with the smoothness I was after... (+enabling JIT in SetSvel - makes a diff)...
Now I'm running WajKIUI hybrid... battery seems to drain quicker, but it's silky smooth... speed is similar to MIUI OC'ed @ 1.2GHz...
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Stock MIUI straight out of the archive gave me 26000 - 25000 on quadrant...
after installing all of my guff it naturally got lower scores, but - speed doesn't necessarily equate to smoothness...
I then went to linpack.apk which allows you to compare your scores against, well - your scores...
As I turned up the OC the ph got quicker - but not smoother (if you get my drift)...
So, on my personalized MIUI I pasted in Juwe11's ram script & Samsungs Loopysmoothness script... they helped with the smoothness I was after... (+enabling JIT in SetSvel - makes a diff)...
Now I'm running WajKIUI hybrid... battery seems to drain quicker, but it's silky smooth... speed is similar to MIUI OC'ed @ 1.2GHz...
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That must be one hell of a Defy u got there if u managed to score around 25,000 points in
Quadrant
For some reason the defy phones in some way seems to score higher than the +, god knows why.
I tried to run a Sonic the hedgehog game with my best settings it ran really smooth and the handling seemed better than ever. But more smoothness never hurt as long as it doesnt decrease speed. I rather run like that and get a better battery
Do u know if those scripts work on the +?
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That must be one hell of a Defy u got there if u managed to score around 25,000 points in
Quadrant
For some reason the defy phones in some way seems to score higher than the +, god knows why.
I tried to run a Sonic the hedgehog game with my best settings it ran really smooth and the handling seemed better than ever. But more smoothness never hurt as long as it doesnt decrease speed. I rather run like that and get a better battery
Do u know if those scripts work on the +?
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Which Sonic game ?
Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode 1 ?
Herpderp Defy.