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Tuesday pre-order???

Sounds convincing.At this rate. I've herd it all. Hope sells that's for sure.
http://m.blogs.computerworld.com/19...0l8l5l0l0l0l1l1299l2013l0.1.1.1.7-1l4l0&mvs=0
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I think its funny that the article says "confirmed" in the title... but its totally not confirmed lol. I realize he has good sources but everyone else thinks they do too. But it aint confirmed till its from VZW directly via PR.
Remember the other half a dozen dates that were "confirmed"? Geez people...

The natives are getting restless...
Worst launch ever, BTW.

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The natives are getting restless...
Worst launch ever, BTW.
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Can't agree more. I need to replace this Droid X of mine now. And sadly, the longer I wait for the GN, the more I feel I can wait even longer for 'the next best phone' which is most likely right around the corner.

Verge Article on Samsung Updates

If Samsung doesn't care about customers, how can it hope to keep them? | The Verge
The Galaxy S is only a year old and already abandoned. I am going with the fruit phone next time, at least I know apple will update my phone for years after the sale. And real updates, not bug fixes.
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If Samsung doesn't care about customers, how can it hope to keep them? | The Verge
The Galaxy S is only a year old and already abandoned. I am going with the fruit phone next time, at least I know apple will update my phone for years after the sale. And real updates, not bug fixes.
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We need lots of more articles like these..Will be putting the link on Twiter and Facebook...Just like CIQ

Straight to an iPhone really? Why not just get an HTC or Motorola or LG next time?
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Straight to an iPhone really? Why not just get an HTC or Motorola or LG next time?
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They are only slightly better than Samsung.
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kingsway8605 said:
If Samsung doesn't care about customers, how can it hope to keep them? | The Verge
The Galaxy S is only a year old and already abandoned. I am going with the fruit phone next time, at least I know apple will update my phone for years after the sale. And real updates, not bug fixes.
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Go get your iphone then.
If you have the mindset that allows one piece of sensationalist journalism to sway you that much, then that's probably just the phone for you.
You see, the thing is:
The author of the article in the OP is doing it wrong:
He completely glosses over the idea that Samsung actually has this right, for the average user:
The Galaxy S DOESN'T have the RAM or the resources to properly run ICS.
Why in the world would Samsung want to push an update to a device that it's just going to run poorly on? (ESPECIALLY to a device with that many millions of users).
Actually, I'm a little disappointed in The Verge for allowing such an awfully-written article to be posted, as far as the one-sidedness of it goes. They've become one of my favorite places on the web to go to for my tech news, but it's definitely NOT because of articles like this.
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Go get your iphone then.
If you have the mindset that allows one piece of sensationalist journalism to sway you that much, then that's probably just the phone for you.
You see, the thing is:
The author of the article in the OP is doing it wrong:
He completely glosses over the idea that Samsung actually has this right, for the average user:
The Galaxy S DOESN'T have the RAM or the resources to properly run ICS.
Why in the world would Samsung want to push an update to a device that it's just going to run poorly on? (ESPECIALLY to a device with that many millions of users).
Actually, I'm a little disappointed in The Verge for allowing such an awfully-written article to be posted, as far as the one-sidedness of it goes. They've become one of my favorite places on the web to go to for my tech news, but it's definitely NOT because of articles like this.
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The Galaxy S has the same specs as the nexus s. And why are you so offended that I am going with an iPhone lol. Is your life so empty that you feel the need to cheer for a corporation? I don't get fanboyism, never will. Samsung has screwed their customers repeatedly since the first gen of android devices, and people are starting to catch on.
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kingsway8605 said:
The Galaxy S has the same specs as the nexus s. And why are you so offended that I am going with an iPhone lol. Is your life so empty that you feel the need to cheer for a corporation? I don't get fanboyism, never will. Samsung has screwed their customers repeatedly since the first gen of android devices, and people are starting to catch on.
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They might have the same specs, but the Galaxy S comes with TouchWiz. The Nexus S doesn't. Difference explained?
Don't be surprised that the developer version of a phone gets the updates and the mass-sold consumer version with branding and skins does not, however inconvenient.
Apart from that, they have supported it for about 19 months now through 3 major releases, instead of their promise of 18 months and a minimum of 1 major release.

So he bought the phone with Eclair, it got an upgrade to Froyo and another upgrade to Gingerbread and he's *****ing that he wont get ICS?! The Galaxy S has already had TWO major OS updates, do people really expect these things to get every major update as long as they own the device? The sense of entitlement that some people seem to have is absolutely rediculous.
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They might have the same specs, but the Galaxy S comes with TouchWiz. The Nexus S doesn't. Difference explained?
Don't be surprised that the developer version of a phone gets the updates and the mass-sold consumer version with branding and skins does not, however inconvenient.
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Exactly, which is why I said I am going with the iPhone next time. That way I don't have to worry about it. I will just know I am going to get updates. Like I said, I. don't have allegiances to certain companies. I just go with the company that is going to treat me best, and right now, that company appears to be apple.
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kingsway8605 said:
The Galaxy S has the same specs as the nexus s. And why are you so offended that I am going with an iPhone lol. Is your life so empty that you feel the need to cheer for a corporation? I don't get fanboyism, never will. Samsung has screwed their customers repeatedly since the first gen of android devices, and people are starting to catch on.
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Fanboyism?
WTF.
Look at the facts, and maybe you'll understand...
(I'll take this slowly, but try to keep up.)
I know that the Galaxy S and the Nexus S have the same specs:
That's common knowledge.
But:
The Nexus S doesn't have to run Touchwiz, hence the update.
The Galaxy S would HAVE to run Touchwiz, so it would have to also be included in any update, because THAT'S WHAT 10+ MILLION AVERAGE USERS WOULD EXPECT TO SEE, THE SAME UI THEY HAD THE DAY BEFORE. (sorry for the Allcaps, but it's just frustrating to me that someone doesn't understand this.)
Touchwiz, in an update with ICS, would BARELY fit:
It might run, but users would quickly get low storage space messages, and memory-issue crashes.
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Fanboyism?
WTF.
Look at the facts, and maybe you'll understand...
(I'll take this slowly, but try to keep up.)
I know that the Galaxy S and the Nexus S have the same specs:
That's common knowledge.
But:
The Nexus S doesn't have to run Touchwiz, hence the update.
The Galaxy S would HAVE to run Touchwiz, so it would have to also be included in any update, because THAT'S WHAT 10+ MILLION AVERAGE USERS WOULD EXPECT TO SEE, THE SAME UI THEY HAD THE DAY BEFORE. (sorry for the Allcaps, but it's just frustrating to me that someone doesn't understand this.)
Touchwiz, in an update with ICS, would BARELY fit:
It might run, but users would quickly get low storage space messages, and memory-issue crashes.
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See post right before yours.
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kingsway8605 said:
Exactly, which is why I said I am going with the iPhone next time. That way I don't have to worry about it. I will just know I am going to get updates. Like I said, I. don't have allegiances to certain companies. I just go with the company that is going to treat me best, and right now, that company appears to be apple.
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They treat you best?
How, by giving you updates that your phone can handle?
You applaud them for that, yet you think it's a bad thing when a company (Samsung) wouldn't send an update to a device that COULDN'T properly handle one?
Apple's way around the issue is to rarely update their hardware, so that it can handle any update they throw at it for 2+ years.
Samsung (and the major Android manufacturers in general) deals with it by continuously pushing the envelope by releasing cutting-edge hardware, and then updating software to the devices that can handle it.
Which would you rather have? 2 year old hardware, and last year's updates, or tomorrow's hardware and tomorrow's updates?
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So he bought the phone with Eclair, it got an upgrade to Froyo and another upgrade to Gingerbread and he's *****ing that he wont get ICS?! The Galaxy S has already had TWO major OS updates, do people really expect these things to get every major update as long as they own the device? The sense of entitlement that some people seem to have is absolutely rediculous.
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You are aware that the Galaxy S on att and tmo still have Froyo? And I didn't buy anything except the epic touch from Samsung. As I have said repeatedly, unlike some, I don't cheer for corporations when it comes to plastic with electrical components inside, I just go with the company that will treat me best, and from the looks of it, Apple appears to be that company with a record of providing almost 3 years of true os updates (bug fixes don't count). If you guys want to buy from a company that has demonstrated that it does not care about you after a sale, based solely on fanboyism, then that is your prerogative. I have no desire to argue with you over who the best phone company is because I have a life lol.
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I did:
You're getting dumber and dumber as this goes on.
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kingsway8605 said:
Exactly, which is why I said I am going with the iPhone next time. That way I don't have to worry about it. I will just know I am going to get updates. Like I said, I. don't have allegiances to certain companies. I just go with the company that is going to treat me best, and right now, that company appears to be apple.
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Whatever tips your balance off course, for many it would be because of other things but at least this is honest reasoning.
Shouting that Samsung lied to costumers and mistreats them is just stupid and shows no understanding of market mechanisms, but displays tunnelvision instead.
I understand it sucks, having had an Omnia2 before my Galaxy S2, but it was known beforehand that the updatecycle would stop somewhere at the end of 2011, as it is to end at Q3/Q4-2012 for the Galaxy S2. By that time the same discussion will start, this time about the Galaxy Nexus, with the same stupid arguments, petitions and tears.

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Apple appears to be that company with a record of providing almost 3 years of true os updates (bug fixes don't count).
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This is the crux of the whole thing:
I would never, in my worst "phone-geek" nightmare, dream of owning the same device for 3 years, I don't care which phone it was.
That's an eternity in terms of technological advances, and if that's what you're looking for: a phone that'll still be updated (software-wise) for 3 years, then an iphone is EXACTLY what you need.
I'd rather have a hole in my head than to be stuck with ANY phone for that long.
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kingsway8605 said:
You are aware that the Galaxy S on att and tmo still have Froyo? And I didn't buy anything except the epic touch from Samsung. As I have said repeatedly, unlike some, I don't cheer for corporations when it comes to plastic with electrical components inside, I just go with the company that will treat me best, and from the looks of it, Apple appears to be that company with a record of providing almost 3 years of true os updates (bug fixes don't count). If you guys want to buy from a company that has demonstrated that it does not care about you after a sale, based solely on fanboyism, then that is your prerogative. I have no desire to argue with you over who the best phone company is because I have a life lol.
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If Samsung didn't honestly care for it's customers people would have never gotten an update at all.
It's entertaining that you're white knighting yourself with the supposed honor of refusing to buy Sansung devices because of them no longer supporting year-old hardware.
Things move fast, the employees that make the updates at Samsung don't have any obligation to continue to work on old hardware.
The Evo Shift isn't getting ICS and it released after the Galaxy S line. Is HTC suddenly not carrying for its customers?
Why, exactly do you care?
Your device WILL get ICS and the chances are you are rooted and even if it didn't [get ICS] some developer(s) is/are working on it.
Hell, I'm sure that rooted Galaxy S users will get it.
Enjoy getting gimped updates with features cut out once your apple device is no longer the top-of-their-line.
There is absolutely no reason for people with a device that old to expect ICS via their manufacturer.
You're basically saying that Samsung should update phones that it shouldn't really be on to it, providing a lackluster User experience.
The users would get all sorts of issues with it and no amount of features would change the fact that some of the issues would push that customer away from that manufacturer.
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So sorry that Android's updates are taking much bigger steps than IOS' updates.

I believe the thing that the OP doesn't take into account is that even apple phones usually become to slow for the latest and greatest iOS version after 18 months to 2 years. In which case, you are back at square one if you had bought any number of android phones.
Regardless, 6 in one hand, half a dozen in the other.
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I just found out that my Commodore 64 does not support running Windows 7....
Damn it, I am pissed! Screw corporate america! Where's my tent, I'm going to "occupy" their headquarters!!

[Q] Has anyone seen a Galaxy Nexus in the wild?

Just wondering, out of curiosity - Has anyone seen another Galaxy Nexus?
I've never seen one (other than mine) and I'm quite surprised! I see loads of S IIs, random HTCs and quite a few Notes, but no Galaxy Nexus'!

No the device didn't get the shine the razor got.. But hey who won the war???
we did that's who!
Kanged out Google phone +
Franco's Magic

Never seen a single one in the wild outside of employees at stores. About 2 months back I brought my GSM into a T-Mobile store and it was the first they had ever seen also.
I do spend most of my time on a college campus though, so it's mostly dominated with dumbphones, iPhones (TONS), and random high-end Androids (mostly SGSII).

Yes, I have seen a few. Mostly because I have a problem with "checking out" other peoples phones.

Saw another one briefly, owned by quite a geeky looking character.

3 people at my office have one that i know of

Yeah I have, a bunch of my friends have them.

met a girl at a random party with a gn and she mentioned that she waited months for it... shouldve married her
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I have not seen a user with a GN, unfortunately. All I see is the White iPhone 4Stupid People.
But I have seen the Galaxy Nexus on display! Does that count? Lol

I was the first person at my work place to get one (on launch day of course) and about 7 other people have followed me so far.

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Seriously put a ring on that... unless she was hideous.

I've seen a bunch of galaxy nexus(nexii?). There is a quite a bit of them around if you look carefully.
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I haven't seen another Nexus around my area, however, I have seen a lot of SIIs. Girlfriend has a Sensation (She's happy with it). Beyond that, it's sadly mostly blackberries.

Haven't seen any in the wild.
I actually prefer it this way, I like having things other people don't.

Only one person has one that I've seen (happens to be a friend of mine) but a lot of people see mine and wish they had one too lol.. seen a few people at the train station with them too, usually older people on the way to and back from work. Makes me feel a little special and happy whenever I do notice other people with this beauty... funny cuz at least half the people I see use an iPhone how boring -.-
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martonikaj said:
Seriously put a ring on that... unless she was hideous.
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haha, actually very attractive, or maybe it was the nexus goggles
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Laintsurge said:
Saw another one briefly, owned by quite a geeky looking character.
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Before I got my GN, this happened to me as well. Remains the only other GN I've seen - most people have the GSII or some HTC Evo.

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Before I got my GN, this happened to me as well. Remains the only other GN I've seen - most people have the GSII or some HTC Evo.
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I have the only one I've seen in my area too. I bought mine from a dude on Craigslist and it took me 4 months to find one on there. Mines the GSM version. I've seen a few Verizons on Craigslist but no GSM.
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nope, haven't seen any others. 98% of the people i know are convinced the iphone is the end-all-be-all of technology. thank the lord for everyone here at xda

I'm the only one I know in my friends who has a GNex. I've seen one person with it on the SkyTrain in Vancouver, and one of my girlfriend's friends has a Nexus S.

KREYOS Smartwatch on Indiegogo

Hey guys,
I saw this smartwatch on Indiegogo the other day and I think it's pretty sweet.
http://igg.me/at/kreyos/x/2722203
Looking at the specs sheet alone its definitely something.
What do you guys think? Get it or wait till more is out?

I'm holding out for the nexus watch
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do you really think Google will concentrate on a watch instead of their Google Glass? I think they just might skip the watch...

juinny said:
do you really think Google will concentrate on a watch instead of their Google Glass? I think they just might skip the watch...
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How many people do you think work there...... im sure they have tons of projects going on. Like the self driving cars. I thought i read some where the watch was a for sure thing.
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How many people do you think work there...... im sure they have tons of projects going on. Like the self driving cars. I thought i read some where the watch was a for sure thing.
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Well if that's the case, I doubt it'll be anytime soon. Seeing as there hasn't really been any leaks for a Google smartwatch so far.
Kreyos it is....for now.

I love the voice search thing. Hopefully it has full support for Google Now. A watch is useless without voice recognition.
However, I like to be able to stream music remotely to it and plug in my 3.5mm headphones. I know that's asking a bit much, but I think it's somewhat reasonable. Does anybody else think that should be a thing?
I'll wait for a Nexus watch. Google will have the most optimized watch for Android. Hopefully.

I backed this up the first day it was on indiepop. We'll see come november how it works with android phones. Even if an nexus watch does come out, I highly doubt it'll have a speaker, voice control AND be waterproof.

Ive been looking for a good smart watch for a while, have been waiting to see what comes about.
The nexus one i cant see coming out for a good 6 months + yet,
The new sony watch looks gorgeous but function is a bit boring, the greykos function looks good but i think
it looks ugly!

I thought so too at first, but I guess the design grew on me.
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Kraize said:
I backed this up the first day it was on indiepop. We'll see come november how it works with android phones. Even if an nexus watch does come out, I highly doubt it'll have a speaker, voice control AND be waterproof.
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I wish I knew about it first day. I'd get it without any hesitation.

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A watch is useless without voice recognition.
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Take that Casio!

Xalies said:
Take that Casio!
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Haha. Smartwatch was implied, my good man. There is no way a watch can achieve its full potential if you can't enter text into it.
I've been using Casio watches for like the past 10 years. Great stuff, but I'm ready to make the switch to Smartwatches.

Just went ahead and the pledged for it.. Hopefully it's worth the 129$
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Been a fair while since the last post here, but just to let anyone seeing this know Kreyos STILL haven't sent out these damn watches.
The first 5000 have been sent via ship to the US but now have apparently been stopped by the US longshoreman contract negotiations, this being the fourth delay in shipping.
I've backed out and bought a Gear Live watch instead.
Android Wear shows far more promise than Kreyos' watches and I suggest anyone that wants their watch before Smartwatches are a thing of the past should just ask for a refund and get something that can actually ship before hell freezes over.

[Q] Is the nexus 7 even worth buying?

I've wanted a Nexus 7 for awhile now. I noticed Office Depot was selling the 32gb version for $229. And I was planning on going and buying one later today. But, after reading through this forum, I'm wondering if it's even worth buying one? Most of the threads I've seen are people just having problems with it. I don't want to drop over $200 on something that has touchscreen issues and random screen cracks. Are all of them this way, or just some? If so, is there another android tablet in the $200-300 price point that would be a better option?

Opethsgh747 said:
I've wanted a Nexus 7 for awhile now. I noticed Office Depot was selling the 32gb version for $229. And I was planning on going and buying one later today. But, after reading all through this forum, I'm wondering if it's even worth buying one? Most of the threads I've seen are people just having problems with it. I don't want to drop over $200 on something that has touchscreen issues and random screen cracks. Are all of them this way, or just some? If so, is there another android tablet in the $200-300 price point that would be a better option?
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The touchscreen issues are gone for me since the 4.4 update. But the screen has randomly cracked for me, in the left up corner (still working). If it worth buying one ? I don't know, this is a good tablet, smooth, fast, has a beautiful screen and all but it has some issues... I would say it depends of which phone you have.

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The touchscreen issues are gone for me since the 4.4 update. But the screen has randomly cracked for me, in the left up corner (still working). If it worth buying one ? I don't know, this is a good tablet, smooth, fast, has a beautiful screen and all but it has some issues... I would say it depends of which phone you have.
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I was using a galaxy s3, until it got sudden death. Now I'm using my old s2 skyrocket.

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I was using a galaxy s3, until it got sudden death. Now I'm using my old s2 skyrocket.
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Then it worth buying one. But maybe you should buy another android tablet which has less problems...

Lg gpad 8.0 GPE?

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Lg gpad 8.0 GPE?
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It's slightly out of my price range. I'ma gonna be leaving here in a bit and pick a nexus up. Hopefully I don't get a defective model. If I do, I'll probably just get a kindle fire hdx and wait for cyanogenmod.

I got the nexus. So far, so good. Updated to 4.4.2. Used a screen test with no problems at all. The only thing I've noticed is a slight audio skip when switching from portrait for landscape mode on the youtube app.

For me, even considering some touch issues, it was worth it because the n7 was my first jump into android as well as a tablet form factor. I have not even scratched the surface on what there is to learn.
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Don't worry about what you read here, if you go to a repair shop, you're going to see nothing but broken cars. For every device that someone is complaining about, there are 10,000 that work fine. It's just that the other 10,000 people don't post on xda.
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PhilipTD said:
Don't worry about what you read here, if you go to a repair shop, you're going to see nothing but broken cars. For every device that someone is complaining about, there are 10,000 that work fine. It's just that the other 10,000 people don't post on xda.
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Agree.
You tend to only see bad experiences on forums because that's what most people use them for.
The good experiences are usually never reported.

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Agree.
You tend to only see bad experiences on forums because that's what most people use them for.
The good experiences are usually never reported.
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I would like to personally report a good experience. Nothing but greatness out of mine.
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Yeah....I am here to second that.I actually didn't care for tablets anymore.I had owned a touchpad and nook color a yr ago.I sold them both off.getting into roms and the android community with my new s4 came a couple of months ago.So, I bought a 16 go nexus 7 with my christmas money and all I can say is WOW.the screen is amazing, it's so.light and fits in one hand real nice.It is the FASTEST computer I have ever had.I can't wait to root...running 4.4.2 now and love it stock.Rooting is gonna be great.
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I have two 2012 Nexus 7s and one 2013. All perfect with no issues. There is no better tablet for the money.
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I would like to personally report a good experience. Nothing but greatness out of mine.
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If I'm remembering right, there's a whole thread in the general forum devoted to just that. OP, you might want to go hunting for it. Giant pile of testimonials from people who love the tablet. I had a screen lifting problem on my first unit, but my exchange has performed flawlessly so far.