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I was so excited when INC2 was rooted, and we had roms just waiting for us to try out. I really appreciate all the devs who bust ass to root our devices and build roms. I am currently running cyanogen nightlies and have no complaints, but I do have some concerns. I previously had a Droid 2, and really thought it had a solid selection of stable roms, and most were quite unique. When Liberty came out, I was amazed at how well it was thought out & designed. It really was creative and feature rich, whereas most other roms seem happy with just removing the bloatware and overclocking. At this point you are probably saying, "shut the hell up and go make your own rom, or go give the Liberty team a reach-around and have them build a rom for your phone". Good, cause I was thinking the same thing. So let me cut to the chase, Cyanogen is beast, and MIUI is cool if you want your droid to be an iphone. The other roms don't really spark much interest, they have different names, but are practically the same. Is there a lack of interest developing for the INC2? Seems like it, I would know, I am very important, and have a degree from ITT.

The phone hasn't been out long and the majority of people aren't able to root yet. A couple Fascinate devs just picked up DInc2's so once they're able to root there will be more support.
The thing has been out for what, a few months? Give it time.
I'm extremely happy with just MIUI and CM7. Best ROMs out there.
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Don't forget about OMGB and OMFGB
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btw what is your problem with miui..i know this phone better than you, i dont like the iphone, and i use miui..i use cm7 too, but right now miui is the most stable. if you dont like the roms out go make your own. I know you wanted opinion, but dont hate roms people have worked hard on already. if you dont like it thats ok but downing someone elses work is low man..

knipp21 said:
btw what is your problem with miui..i know this phone better than you, i dont like the iphone, and i use miui..i use cm7 too, but right now miui is the most stable. if you dont like the roms out go make your own. I know you wanted opinion, but dont hate roms people have worked hard on already. if you dont like it thats ok but downing someone elses work is low man..
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He never downed anyone's work. He was just expressing an opinion. I think the man is entitled to an opinion, don't you?
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Avelnan said:
He never downed anyone's work. He was just expressing an opinion. I think the man is entitled to an opinion, don't you?
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Look at the poll he posted.
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Here's the deal perm root has not been out long. We have a Lot of options available from the dev community considering.
There are more devs getting DInc2s in their hands as time passes. Some are even devving for it without having one.
By the end of summer and by the end of the year there will be "incredible " choices!
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looks like I was right, some of you were thinking I should go make my own rom. Reminds me of this one time, when I went to purchase a new car. After test driving it I told a few folks on my favorite car forum how I thought the car was lacking in new features. They all told me to go build my own car as well. Well crap, looks like I have some work ahead of me. Look knipp I donate to every rom dev that I have been impressed with. Roms have the potential to generate revenue for these devs, and consumer criticism helps with making a rom that people want to use. I think it is great that you know more about phones than I do, they should give you a medal for that, or a cookie, your choice. I am sorry that you found my poll offensive. For some odd reason I thought most people would see it for it it was, A JOKE. Next time I will use a more sarcastic font, if you think that might help.
Thanks to those of you less sensitive types for informing me about the latest from developments. I can't wait to try em' all out.

propjoe said:
looks like I was right, some of you were thinking I should go make my own rom. Reminds me of this one time, when I went to purchase a new car. After test driving it I told a few folks on my favorite car forum how I thought the car was lacking in new features. They all told me to go build my own car as well. Well crap, looks like I have some work ahead of me. Look knipp I donate to every rom dev that I have been impressed with. Roms have the potential to generate revenue for these devs, and consumer criticism helps with making a rom that people want to use. I think it is great that you know more about phones than I do, they should give you a medal for that, or a cookie, your choice. I am sorry that you found my poll offensive. For some odd reason I thought most people would see it for it it was, A JOKE. Next time I will use a more sarcastic font, if you think that might help.
Thanks to those of you less sensitive types for informing me about the latest from developments. I can't wait to try em' all out.
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I will gladly take the cookie
My main reason for being upset it is I know a few of these devs and they work hard and have rough lives at home..and don't ask for donations. Therefore criticism should be posted in a request not a demand. So as nice as they are, they don't always get the respect they deserve. I got a little too upset, and for that I'm sorry.
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Its all good dude. I know I sounded like an ass. My sarcasm gets the best of me at times. I wasn't trying to bash anyone. Sorry I will dial it down.
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propjoe said:
Its all good dude. I know I sounded like an ass. My sarcasm gets the best of me at times. I wasn't trying to bash anyone. Sorry I will dial it down.
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No hard feelings I've been here to long for that
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Your right, people should just chill.

propjoe said:
Its all good dude. I know I sounded like an ass. My sarcasm gets the best of me at times. I wasn't trying to bash anyone. Sorry I will dial it down.
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My one last thing is as you know how hard devs work, there is always drama in the forums. I know I get to serious, but I don't want what has happened in the dinc1 forums to happen here. So I try to defend them when I can. I read to far into it, but at least it was me and not a dev all I do is try and make apps work lol
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Request - froyo or gingerbread rom

Hey guys,
I was wondering if any ROM developer could put together a Froyo or maybe a Gingerbread ROM. It would probably be faster and my apps would work on it. Thanks!

dave_watson said:
Hey guys,
I was wondering if any ROM developer could put together a Froyo or maybe a Gingerbread ROM. It would probably be faster and my apps would work on it. Thanks!
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Uhm no? Why would you buy a 4.0 device and the want somebody to put 2.2 or 2.3 on it. Just get a device that runs froyo or gingerbread if you want it that bad.

I really like the hardware and style of the phone. 4.0 just seems sluggish compared to 2.2 or 2.3

dave_watson said:
Hey guys,
I was wondering if any ROM developer could put together a Froyo or maybe a Gingerbread ROM. It would probably be faster and my apps would work on it. Thanks!
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Entitlement much? Sounds like you need to learn to develop or get a device with the version of os you want. I'm on way to buy the latest hardware pc and hope Microsoft will put up some windows 3.1 support for me. Wish me luck. End of sarcasm.
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What do you have that isn't working on 4.0? The developer needs to update their app. And sluggish? ICS is the fastest smoothest version of Android yet. Maybe you aren't use to all the flash and flair, but you can turn off animations.
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dave_watson said:
Hey guys,
I was wondering if any ROM developer could put together a Froyo or maybe a Gingerbread ROM. It would probably be faster and my apps would work on it. Thanks!
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You want froyo or gingerbread roms on the galaxy nexus!?!? Why 4.0 is where its at OK if you want it that bad trade me your GNEX for my Nexus S4G! Lol
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I can haz Donut and Eclair?
Terminators run on Android...

Im voting for fail post of the year on this one! Wow

I don't understand why you guys are giving the OP a hard time. If he wants GingerBread, so what? If I bought my Porsche, and I only drive it under 60 mph, what difference does it make? I know it can go faster, but I don't want it to. What does it matter - my car, my choice. Are the people in the elite Porsche crowd going to make fun of me? Oh my...
Help the guy out, or indicate why you can't. Saying "if you want GingerBread, get a device that runs GingerBread" does not help with the request of getting a GB ROM for the i9250...

efrant said:
I don't understand why you guys are giving the OP a hard time. If he wants GingerBread, so what? If I bought my Porsche, and I only drive it under 60 mph, what difference does it make? I know it can go faster, but I don't want it to. What does it matter - my car, my choice. Are the people in the elite Porsche crowd going to make fun of me? Oh my...
Help the guy out, or indicate why you can't. Saying "if you want GingerBread, get a device that runs GingerBread" does not help with the request of getting a GB ROM for the i9250...
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No, the correct analogy would be you buying a porche, and then asking somebody to do an engine swap and put in a Escort engine...for free.

I can understand the want to go back to an older OS, sort of like people who want to stick with 'Windows XP'.... You like specific apps & how they are working on your current OS. Then, you switch to a new OS and your app isn't working properly anymore. You think "damn this new OS! I want the old one back!"
Well, the problem isn't the new OS. The problem is support for your app on the new OS. Just like with anything, it's just a matter of time before such issues are addressed and the devs fix/update the app for the new OS.

efrant said:
I don't understand why you guys are giving the OP a hard time. If he wants GingerBread, so what? If I bought my Porsche, and I only drive it under 60 mph, what difference does it make? I know it can go faster, but I don't want it to. What does it matter - my car, my choice. Are the people in the elite Porsche crowd going to make fun of me? Oh my...
Help the guy out, or indicate why you can't. Saying "if you want GingerBread, get a device that runs GingerBread" does not help with the request of getting a GB ROM for the i9250...
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Blah blah blah....

spencer88 said:
No, the correct analogy would be you buying a porche, and then asking somebody to do an engine swap and put in a Escort engine...for free.
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He was asking if someone could help him out. (Obviously not too many are doing so...) He wasn't demanding anything, and besides, most people here do help out "for free".
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Blah blah blah....
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Nice, and very helpful...

No you can't there is no kernel for those roms and those roms need hardware buttons. Noobs smh
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efrant;20846713
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Nice, and very helpful...
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Thanks a bunch!

droidstyle said:
Thanks a bunch!
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You're welcome!

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efrant said:
I don't understand why you guys are giving the OP a hard time. If he wants GingerBread, so what? If I bought my Porsche, and I only drive it under 60 mph, what difference does it make? I know it can go faster, but I don't want it to. What does it matter - my car, my choice. Are the people in the elite Porsche crowd going to make fun of me? Oh my...
Help the guy out, or indicate why you can't. Saying "if you want GingerBread, get a device that runs GingerBread" does not help with the request of getting a GB ROM for the i9250...
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+1
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OP is probably a troll as he only has a post count of 2.

droidstyle said:
Im voting for fail post of the year on this one! Wow
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Really? Really? Actually, fail posts of the year go to the people who post threads with [Q] in the general section and things of that sort.
efrant said:
I don't understand why you guys are giving the OP a hard time. If he wants GingerBread, so what? If I bought my Porsche, and I only drive it under 60 mph, what difference does it make? I know it can go faster, but I don't want it to. What does it matter - my car, my choice. Are the people in the elite Porsche crowd going to make fun of me? Oh my...
Help the guy out, or indicate why you can't. Saying "if you want GingerBread, get a device that runs GingerBread" does not help with the request of getting a GB ROM for the i9250...
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I'm with you. Collectively, this thread has accumulated the largest amount of dicks I've seen so far on XDA, ever. Especially you, spencer88. I've lurked on a lot of your posts and you are extremely opinionated and you seem to have the what-I-say-goes aura about you. I seem to recall you whining recently about several different CDMA nexus release dates. Also, based on your language, I am ASSUMING you are just a user and not a dev, so why would you respond to this thread, anyway? If a dev can help the guy out, great. As for the trolls, graze elsewhere. Christ.

Where are the flavours?

This is a respectful moan....
How come on the Nexus forums all the roms are the same????
Now let me get one thing cleared up first, I am not a developer, I have rudimentary knowledge and know enough to get by and install the mods on this forum. I am not aiming this at any developer in particular and I am very grateful to those who spend their time making these Roms and for that I thank you.
But with other phones Ive owned (Sony, HTC and Samsung) the forums are filled with stock roms + AOSP / AOKP and MIUI, Gaming Roms, Light roms, Various ports of Sense, Xperia or Touchwiz and thats what I like to have on my device.
Here on our forums are 10 shades of the same look, and im just wondering why? how? Just pure coincidence? Is it because a Nexus device is similar to AOSP by default??
I like my nexus and I love the forum are the hard workers making these free roms but I switched to a Nexus phone and tab because they are developers phones, easy to hack etc but it seems that the creativity on this part of XDA is stunted somehow, Phones that are harder to hack like for example the HTC Desire HD have way more variety like the challenge is worth seeing how much stuff can be ported.
This is not a ***** and is not intended to offend those who work hard on this forum but just food for thought, what are your experiences / thoughts?

exekias said:
But with other phones Ive owned (Sony, HTC and Samsung) the forums are filled with stock roms + AOSP / AOKP and MIUI, Gaming Roms, Light roms, Various ports of Sense, Xperia or Touchwiz and thats what I like to have on my device.
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ppl buy the nexus to run AOSP roms

k786 said:
ppl buy the nexus to run AOSP roms
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Well yes and no....
I bought the Nexus because on most of my phones i ended up running AOSP eventually so this was a logical purchase but i also ran MIUI for such a long time and miss it tbh.
It would be fair to say a segment of Nexus owners buy for the AOSP feel but not all and only, most don't know what they are buying / getting into or some don't see the whole picture (like me)
Cheers

These are personal opinions, aint worth nothing. You want ports? Port it yourself.
Miui? With all xda, and all the devices, you people keep asking for bloated ****, senses and what not. Tsk. Rather use B2G or Flyme.
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bk201doesntexist said:
These are personal opinions, aint worth nothing. You want ports? Port it yourself.
Miui? With all xda, and all the devices, you people keep asking for bloated ****, senses and what not. Tsk. Rather use B2G or Flyme.
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Oh yes how witty of you to jump to the exulted persona of some one who uttered "port it yourself"
I was simply asking for opinions and insights as to why their is less variety on a device that is meant to be modified, as such a visitor to a town comments on what is different in this locale.
Lets apply your logic to a food critic who comments that the food was missing X, Y and Z, by your logic the restaurant in question should say
"you want X? Cook it yourself"
You have misread my intentions in your rush to be oh so common internet troll
And some bloatware is nice, i particular enjoy MIUI because it is aesthetically pleasing despite the fact I turn most features off.
Thank you for your input, Im sure all the developers on this forum feel safe from evil doers like me with you to back them up

I have the same feeling m8, but maybe this is happening because 4.2.1 has lots of bugs and maybe dev's are waiting for google to clean the mess.
I also came from S2 where we had lots of aokp based roms, really, those were my favourite, here I can barely see aokp roms or cm10 based ones.
I havn't bought my Nexus ONLY to try aosp rom's like other said, that makes no sense.
I'm really thankful to dev's that "invest" their time in this community, which is great, and I'm not moaning, it's just like an observation.
And btw, personal opinions matter, that's why this community exists and develops itself, cuz we all have an opinion.

I got hardcore flamed for asking the same question...
people around here are touchy as hell lol

The nexus s and nexus one have a million Roms from other devices ported already.. I imagine the galaxy nexus will receive the same treatment in time.
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akira02rex said:
The nexus s and nexus one have a million Roms from other devices ported already.. I imagine the galaxy nexus will receive the same treatment in time.
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That's because the One and the S are nearly identical, hardware wise, to the HTC Desire and Samsung Galaxy S, while the Galaxy Nexus is quite different compared to the S2
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You should have just looked at the forum before buying the phone. Most people on this forum want to run AOSP. That's just how it works. Quit *****ing.

exekias said:
Oh yes how witty of you to jump to the exulted persona of some one who uttered "port it yourself"
I was simply asking for opinions and insights as to why their is less variety on a device that is meant to be modified, as such a visitor to a town comments on what is different in this locale.
Lets apply your logic to a food critic who comments that the food was missing X, Y and Z, by your logic the restaurant in question should say
"you want X? Cook it yourself"
You have misread my intentions in your rush to be oh so common internet troll
And some bloatware is nice, i particular enjoy MIUI because it is aesthetically pleasing despite the fact I turn most features off.
Thank you for your input, Im sure all the developers on this forum feel safe from evil doers like me with you to back them up
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Epic reply XD
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Yes , I have the same thoughts , Gnex seriously has lack of varities of roms , mostly because I think the HW of gnex is quite different wrt the flagship oem phones , it may be really hard to port it to our beloved gnex

exekias said:
This is a respectful moan....
How come on the Nexus forums all the roms are the same????
Now let me get one thing cleared up first, I am not a developer, I have rudimentary knowledge and know enough to get by and install the mods on this forum. I am not aiming this at any developer in particular and I am very grateful to those who spend their time making these Roms and for that I thank you.
But with other phones Ive owned (Sony, HTC and Samsung) the forums are filled with stock roms + AOSP / AOKP and MIUI, Gaming Roms, Light roms, Various ports of Sense, Xperia or Touchwiz and thats what I like to have on my device.
Here on our forums are 10 shades of the same look, and im just wondering why? how? Just pure coincidence? Is it because a Nexus device is similar to AOSP by default??
I like my nexus and I love the forum are the hard workers making these free roms but I switched to a Nexus phone and tab because they are developers phones, easy to hack etc but it seems that the creativity on this part of XDA is stunted somehow, Phones that are harder to hack like for example the HTC Desire HD have way more variety like the challenge is worth seeing how much stuff can be ported.
This is not a ***** and is not intended to offend those who work hard on this forum but just food for thought, what are your experiences / thoughts?
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Although I haven't noticed such a thing before, I found that your observation is true
Personally, I had my S II and started trying ROMs then could not be satisfied on a ROM choice until I could cook my own ROM Afterwards I switched to GNex and I am following the same way of making my own ROM which I really enjoy a lot more on GNex because I am building from source not just modifying Samsung's ROMs as with S II
So basically I feel that this device is intended more for those who like pure experience, but still in the "Themes and Apps" section there are some ports like S III TouchWiz so probably after reaching a good level of such porting then someone may start implementing it in a ROM thus we have a new ROM style? I hope so

sshede said:
You should have just looked at the forum before buying the phone. Most people on this forum want to run AOSP. That's just how it works. Quit *****ing.
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Again, NOT, *****ing, you have misread the intention
sergini said:
And btw, personal opinions matter, that's why this community exists and develops itself, cuz we all have an opinion.
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Thank you
crixley said:
I got hardcore flamed for asking the same question...
people around here are touchy as hell lol
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Again thank you, you are right people are touchy as hell about this subject, really cant imagine why
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Epic reply XD
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deepayanneogi said:
Yes , I have the same thoughts , Gnex seriously has lack of varities of roms , mostly because I think the HW of gnex is quite different wrt the flagship oem phones , it may be really hard to port it to our beloved gnex
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If thats true, than thats a bit of a bummer, and Exactly what this thread was aimed at finding out, if our Gnex is difficult to code for despite being easy to unlock then thats a perfectly acceptable excuse for the lack of variety, thank you
ahmadallica said:
Although I haven't noticed such a thing before, I found that your observation is true
Personally, I had my S II and started trying ROMs then could not be satisfied on a ROM choice until I could cook my own ROM Afterwards I switched to GNex and I am following the same way of making my own ROM which I really enjoy a lot more on GNex because I am building from source not just modifying Samsung's ROMs as with S II
So basically I feel that this device is intended more for those who like pure experience, but still in the "Themes and Apps" section there are some ports like S III TouchWiz so probably after reaching a good level of such porting then someone may start implementing it in a ROM thus we have a new ROM style? I hope so
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I spend a lot of time in the themes and apps section for that sole purpose as well not to mention spending countless $$ of new launchers just to change the feel. Its a vicious cycle, we have been given the ability to change android how we want and for most of is, it isnt good enough we want more.

Honestly, I think the "lack of variety" (quoted because some agree and some don't) is due to the hardware. If the Gnex had the same processor as some of the other flagships, porting wouldn't be as difficult, or same camera sensor, etc. When everything is different, that makes porting just a ton harder than it already is. Just my 2¢, but hey, what do I know? But the OP has a point, there's CM, AOKP, PA, CNA, and stock. Everything else seems to be a derivative of that, with CNA literally being a conglomeration of the first two. To each his own.

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Honestly, I think the "lack of variety" (quoted because some agree and some don't) is due to the hardware. If the Gnex had the same processor as some of the other flagships, porting wouldn't be as difficult, or same camera sensor, etc. When everything is different, that makes porting just a ton harder than it already is. Just my 2¢, but hey, what do I know? But the OP has a point, there's CM, AOKP, PA, CNA, and stock. Everything else seems to be a derivative of that, with CNA literally being a conglomeration of the first two. To each his own.
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Well having an open source hardware with all the binaries available seems to be the curse of gnex now, with many of the OEM phone dev's tirelessly working to remake binaries for closed hardware , here we have a completely open device with nothing more then AOSP ! .I'm up for asop as the next person in this forum but how about some innovations that can compete with OEM and eventually be part of android by default ?
As my previous poster says there's AOSP which is same as stock minus the gaaps then there is CM made from AOSP which is the most innovative followed/mirrored closely by aokp and then we have there derivatives with PA being a derivative of CM and CNA being the derivative of both CM and AOKP,
we have a ton of rom's but they are all twins of one another with AOSP being the eldest
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jxr94 said:
Honestly, I think the "lack of variety" (quoted because some agree and some don't) is due to the hardware. If the Gnex had the same processor as some of the other flagships, porting wouldn't be as difficult, or same camera sensor, etc. When everything is different, that makes porting just a ton harder than it already is. Just my 2¢, but hey, what do I know? But the OP has a point, there's CM, AOKP, PA, CNA, and stock. Everything else seems to be a derivative of that, with CNA literally being a conglomeration of the first two. To each his own.
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There's a few others that pop up and down (like BAMF) which are their own flavours and dependent sometimes on exactly which GNex you have. I've occasionally seen links to others that the devs seem to have a personal issue with being mentioned on xda -- and so they're out there but I honestly have no idea where else to look.

exekias said:
Lets apply your logic to a food critic who comments that the food was missing X, Y and Z, by your logic the restaurant in question should say
"you want X? Cook it yourself"
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A restaurant is a business, which exists to make money... the logic of your "rebuttal" implies that rom developers do what they do for the purpose of making a profit, which isn't the case.
This forum isn't a diner where you can complain that your eggs aren't cooked right... everything that's here (roms/themes/mods/etc...) is here because someone devoted their free time and efforts.
If the lack of sense/touchwiz/whatever roms is such a big deal... maybe you should have done your research before buying it.

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A restaurant is a business, which exists to make money... the logic of your "rebuttal" implies that rom developers do what they do for the purpose of making a profit, which isn't the case.
This forum isn't a diner where you can complain that your eggs aren't cooked right... everything that's here (roms/themes/mods/etc...) is here because someone devoted their free time and efforts.
If the lack of sense/touchwiz/whatever roms is such a big deal... maybe you should have done your research before buying it.
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I'm pretty sure a lot of restaurants, especially ones good enough to be critiqued, start their business for the pure joy of their trade. So your argument is invalid.
Food is supposed to be prepared the way you order it. Much in the same way that you look thru the "menu" of xda (ROM features) before you order (download/install). If something is wrong with it (GPS borked, camera fc etc) anyone will send it back to the chef. So again, your argument is invalid.

AmericanCon said:
I'm pretty sure a lot of restaurants, especially ones good enough to be critiqued, start their business for the pure joy of their trade. So your argument is invalid.
Food is supposed to be prepared the way you order it. Much in the same way that you look thru the "menu" of xda (ROM features) before you order (download/install). If something is wrong with it (GPS borked, camera fc etc) anyone will send it back to the chef. So again, your argument is invalid.
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You don't "order" a ROM. You either use it or don't. Nobody is forcing you to use a ROM, if you don't like it then you make your own.
Nobody cares if arguments are "invalid" in your opinion. You don't have one bit of authority to back it up.

[Q] Where are the custom ROMs???

I was so beyond elated when I got my Galaxy Note 8 (N5110) last night... couldn't want to flash this puppy and ROM it with some Cyanogen loveliness; but to my incredible surprise, I can't find any custom ROMs that don't have the Touch Wiz crap on it. WTH? This tablet was highly rated and I know it's not abscure so I'm wondering why there's so little development on this little wonderous machine. Ideas? Links that I've missed? Winning lottery numbers? All are welcome.

instead of asking what are others plan on doibg for your tablet wouldn't it be morw productive to ask and learn how to do it yourself?
it seems rather rude to ask for someone else to donate their free time with no compensation.

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I was so beyond elated when I got my Galaxy Note 8 (N5110) last night... couldn't want to flash this puppy and ROM it with some Cyanogen loveliness; but to my incredible surprise, I can't find any custom ROMs that don't have the Touch Wiz crap on it. WTH? This tablet was highly rated and I know it's not abscure so I'm wondering why there's so little development on this little wonderous machine. Ideas? Links that I've missed? Winning lottery numbers? All are welcome.
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There's already a few threads like this, so not sure there's a point to another one. Either way, there is CivX custom rom and kernel, but yes it's based on stock TW. Emwno is working on a cm10.1 port too, and beanstown was supposed to develop a custom rom but that has now been delayed. Hopefully he will do it though at some point in the future. Aside from that not many devs seem to have the device which is a shame because the Note 8 rocks.

nothing more annoying on XDA then someone complaining about the lack of free software...quick whining, and learn how to do it yourself, so you can spend endless hours of YOUR personal life creating something that people can post complaints about, request things that you dont put in the rom, and just generally expect you to spend all of your free time upgrading, and improving for them every time they want something..

I agree with you it does rock. Just xame from a Lenovo A2109 where there was a LARGE dev community but no support for Mac users. Thought for sure there would be a crap load of devs here given the Samsung brand and its answer to the iPad mini. Personally, I think its much getter then the mini even though I'm a Mac girl... note: not an Apple fangirl... just a best in class user.
Anyway, thanks for telling me what to look for and which developers to keep and eye out for. Its painful to read post after post and subsequently page after page trying to find answers to my questions. I do appreciate it.
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There's already a few threads like this, so not sure there's a point to another one. Either way, there is CivX custom rom and kernel, but yes it's based on stock TW. Emwno is working on a cm10.1 port too, and beanstown was supposed to develop a custom rom but that has now been delayed. Hopefully he will do it though at some point in the future. Aside from that not many devs seem to have the device which is a shame because the Note 8 rocks.
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First and foremost, this post wasn't about *****ing... it was asking a question and expressing puzzlement. Second of all, I asked no one to DO anything or develop anything for "my device". You added nothing useful or enlightening so who's the one *****ing now? Hint: it's not me!
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nothing more annoying on XDA then someone complaining about the lack of free software...quick whining, and learn how to do it yourself, so you can spend endless hours of YOUR personal life creating something that people can post complaints about, request things that you dont put in the rom, and just generally expect you to spend all of your free time upgrading, and improving for them every time they want something..
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For every ROM that has worked for me, I have donated monetarily. For one device, I actually BOUGHT a unit for development. I've been on this board for several years and have never asked for anything except answers to my questions.
Second of all, I'm a web designer/developer who donates LOTS of time to those who don't know or ask for help. I don't ask for compensation; I ask for them to carry the info forward. It seems rather rude for you to assume and judge rather then ask.
madsquabbles said:
instead of asking what are others plan on doibg for your tablet wouldn't it be morw productive to ask and learn how to do it yourself?
it seems rather rude to ask for someone else to donate their free time with no compensation.
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thewinelover said:
First and foremost, this post wasn't about *****ing... it was asking a question and expressing puzzlement. Second of all, I asked no one to DO anything or develop anything for "my device". You added nothing useful or enlightening so who's the one *****ing now? Hint: it's not me!
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"puzzlement"? what are you puzzled about?
You've been a member here for SIX years; you know where the dev section is in this thread; the roms that are there are what we have at this point..
dont try to "veil" your complaint about so "little development" by saying you weren't complaining, just "asking a question"
We lose enough fantastic developers here when people start threads like this, so please don't encourage the few folks that are dev'ing for this device to leave as well..
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Gentlemen please stop making personal attacks.
I am sure she knows where is the place to find a custom rom although she doesn't mean this.
So if there is nothing constructive to add in this thread then just don't post.
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thewinelover said:
For every ROM that has worked for me, I have donated monetarily. For one device, I actually BOUGHT a unit for development. I've been on this board for several years and have never asked for anything except answers to my questions.
Second of all, I'm a web designer/developer who donates LOTS of time to those who don't know or ask for help. I don't ask for compensation; I ask for them to carry the info forward. It seems rather rude for you to assume and judge rather then ask.
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maybe I just misread your enthusiasm for the new tablet as cracking the whip on those hard working guys who do what thwy do and ask for norhing back. so If I mistook you excitement as a demand then I apologize.
the gnote 10.1 took a good while to get some dev work on it. for a good while all we had was root, which really wasn't bad at all. It's still not as active as say the s4 or gn2 development, but it still looks like qualiry work. I'd suppose it wouldn't be too hard to port a rom over, but then again what do I know, I ain't no dev.

thewinelover said:
I was so beyond elated when I got my Galaxy Note 8 (N5110) last night... couldn't want to flash this puppy and ROM it with some Cyanogen loveliness; but to my incredible surprise, I can't find any custom ROMs that don't have the Touch Wiz crap on it. WTH? This tablet was highly rated and I know it's not abscure so I'm wondering why there's so little development on this little wonderous machine. Ideas? Links that I've missed? Winning lottery numbers? All are welcome.
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I was under the impression you have to keep a lot of the Touch Wiz to keep the pen enabled. Otherwise it's just a generic 8" android tablet.

Thank you... I appreciate that; very much.
madsquabbles said:
maybe I just misread your enthusiasm for the new tablet as cracking the whip on those hard working guys who do what thwy do and ask for norhing back. so If I mistook you excitement as a demand then I apologize.
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I was very pleased that rooting was so easy. I had to unlock the bootloader in the HTC was a flippin' pain in the arse so I was THRILLED to learn we didn't have to do that on the Samsung. So, clearly I'm very glad to have root... and have deleted a lot of the Samsung crapware as I'm sure most of us have as well. Though I do have to ask... what is a "gnote"? I had a GTab once which was actually the Viewsonic GTablet. However, I've never heard of the GNote...
I'm not a software/hardware dev either... just web... and so wish I had time to learn. I'd be all over it like a gnat on poop!
madsquabbles said:
the gnote 10.1 took a good while to get some dev work on it. for a good while all we had was root, which really wasn't bad at all. It's still not as active as say the s4 or gn2 development, but it still looks like qualiry work. I'd suppose it wouldn't be too hard to port a rom over, but then again what do I know, I ain't no dev.
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Isn't the Touch Wiz on regular non-Note Samsung devices? For example the Galaxy II & III phones? Though I am just guessing as this is my first Samsung Android device.

*smile* Thank you. However, I am a she.
Siberian Tiger said:
Gentlemen please stop making personal attacks.
I am sure he knows where is the place to find a custom rom although he doesn't mean this.
So if there is nothing constructive to add in this thread then just don't post.
Thank you.
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thewinelover said:
Isn't the Touch Wiz on regular non-Note Samsung devices? For example the Galaxy II & III phones? Though I am just guessing as this is my first Samsung Android device.
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yep, pretty much all samsung devices, except for the nexuses and the s4 developer ed have touch wiz. the big downside of using cm or aokp is that you'll lose pressure sensitivity with your pen (or at least that's how it was a few months ago and i haven't really check up on it).

I think its fine the way it is....
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[Q] Help choosing a ROM (Very new to this)

Hi, I'm Gabe and I'm new as you can see... So I just rooted my device and I'm looking for a very stable and very customization rom.
My ex used to handle this stuff.. But we aren't together anymore so I'm doing it myself.
I want
Good battery life
Customization ability like lots of themes!
Stability
Cool SMS themes and stuff I hate my galaxy sms layout agh.
I hate touchwiz sorry.
Ps. I'm a girl btw everyone just calls me gabe

Gabe first thing first. Questions go in the Q&A section not in the General section. As far as asking which the best rom is also like a pointless question as they all are. It's user preference what's going to make the rom perfect for you. All these types of which is best threads end up locked. Maybe you should start with this thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38172219 there is lots of useful information. Then just try which ones appeal to you and choose which is best for you.
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edfunkycold said:
Gabe first thing first. Questions go in the Q&A section not in the General section. As far as asking which the best rom is also like a pointless question as they all are. It's user preference what's going to make the rom perfect for you. All these types of which is best threads end up locked. Maybe you should start with this thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38172219 there is lots of useful information. Then just try which ones appeal to you and choose which is best for you.
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Thank you =] I should've searched around a bit I was just pretty excited to get started! thank you [: i'll go there and see what to do I kinda thought it was like my old phone here there was tons of unstable roms and crashed and the camera didn't work but okay!

AlkalineTrio said:
Hi, I'm Gabe and I'm new as you can see... So I just rooted my device and I'm looking for a very stable and very customization rom.
My ex used to handle this stuff.. But we aren't together anymore so I'm doing it myself.
I want
Good battery life
Customization ability like lots of themes!
Stability
Cool SMS themes and stuff I hate my galaxy sms layout agh.
I hate touchwiz sorry.
Ps. I'm a girl btw everyone just calls me gabe
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Well kudos for being a giiiiiiirl, but its all good.
If you want customization, always aosp. Personally, I'd recommend aokp.
If you want some more in depth tips and stuffs, and a build prop tweak I compiled, feel free to pm me.
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teh roxxorz said:
Well kudos for being a giiiiiiirl, but its all good.
If you want customization, always aosp. Personally, I'd recommend aokp.
If you want some more in depth tips and stuffs, and a build prop tweak I compiled, feel free to pm me.
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Thanks I tried Cm10 i didn't like it..I'm actually waning to get rid of the device itself I'm not a galaxy fan whatsoever. Anyway thanks for the help. it was a fun and short adventure.

Wicked sensations and moar Roms very stable and very customizable!
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AlkalineTrio said:
Thanks I tried Cm10 i didn't like it..I'm actually waning to get rid of the device itself I'm not a galaxy fan whatsoever. Anyway thanks for the help. it was a fun and short adventure.
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Might I ask what you didn't like about it?
I mean the device its, the buttons, etc? Maybe can guide you to a 'better' device more suited for you.

teh roxxorz said:
Well kudos for being a giiiiiiirl, but its all good.
If you want customization, always aosp. Personally, I'd recommend aokp.
If you want some more in depth tips and stuffs, and a build prop tweak I compiled, feel free to pm me.
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teh roxxorz said:
Might I ask what you didn't like about it?
I mean the device its, the buttons, etc? Maybe can guide you to a 'better' device more suited for you.
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Actually I think I just miss my iphone thats why I'm selling it. I been using my blackberry because it actually is faster when i'm texting and stuff. I liked CM10 but it just wasn't what I thought. I love my android I wish I could keep both but I won't be able. I just have to find a buyer which has been very hard.
I'm considering finding a good trade or something either iphone or blackberry torch but probably iphone. But it's still rooted and I'm not very sure about unrooting and stuff things like this requires lots of thought and I don't like thinking a lot lol.
I really do appreciate your response though =]

AlkalineTrio said:
Actually I think I just miss my iphone thats why I'm selling it. I been using my blackberry because it actually is faster when i'm texting and stuff. I liked CM10 but it just wasn't what I thought. I love my android I wish I could keep both but I won't be able. I just have to find a buyer which has been very hard.
I'm considering finding a good trade or something either iphone or blackberry torch but probably iphone. But it's still rooted and I'm not very sure about unrooting and stuff things like this requires lots of thought and I don't like thinking a lot lol.
I really do appreciate your response though =]
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Mmm, I see, well that's respectable. Personally, not a fan either but we all have choices.
If you're trying to sell your GS III, you might want to try listing it on swappa.com ; they sell androids and if you price it 'reasonably' you should get a buyer probably easily. Doing ^, you can list it as root, and the buyer will probably want it like that, saying you trouble. Though if you really need help unrooting, I can help you with that.

teh roxxorz said:
Mmm, I see, well that's respectable. Personally, not a fan either but we all have choices.
If you're trying to sell your GS III, you might want to try listing it on swappa.com ; they sell androids and if you price it 'reasonably' you should get a buyer probably easily. Doing ^, you can list it as root, and the buyer will probably want it like that, saying you trouble. Though if you really need help unrooting, I can help you with that.
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I'm a nursing student an a Iphone would suit me better because it last awhile for me and I would defiantly need a stable device. I posted a ad on swappa I'm hoping I did it correctly and for a reasonably price I saw a Iphone 5 on their pretty cheap I hope I get enough for the galaxy to buy it.